Masturbation is counterproductive
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fap responsiblypogzee;680385 said:
Are you 100% SURE you lost length? Maybe it was due to the erection problems. As DLD said- it is the girth that masturbation affects the most (and EQ). Length- it is quite beneficial. There are many threads where it is proven ( brothers have been put to the test of ejaculation vs no ejaculation to see if it would affect their gaining and size ).
What I think you all need to realize is that ejaculation (whether it is sex or masturbation) is not ALL THAT bad- it can help you out quite a lot if you know how to use it. Anyways- what matters A LOT (maybe the most) in PE is the production of the male sex hormone- TESTOSTERONE. Durring puberty (where it is at its peak) it causes male muscles to enlarge, facial hair growth (facial, pubic etc.) and natural PE (enlargement of the reproductive organs). This hormone is the most essential to PE!
So, if you are all interested, there are studies that stand to prove that you can manipulate your testosterone levels with ejaculation and abstinence (from ejaculation) periods. Some studies are listed below, enjoy and read.
- a) It’s known that short-term abstinence of 3 weeks can slightly increases testosterone levels in healthy human subjects, and one interesting study shows a significant 145% spike in T at the 7th day of abstinence (probably an evolutionary trigger to reproduce). However, long-term abstinence of 3 months has been shown to significantly reduce testosterone levels (note that this is only researched in men with erectile dysfunction, so the low T can be caused by something completely different).
b) In multiple human and animal studies, it has been noted that ejaculation does not acutely change serum testosterone levels, busting the common myth that ejaculation would rapidly deplete the body from testosterone (study, study, study, study).
c) Even though ejaculations seemingly have no significant effects on serum testosterone levels, they can (at least according to rodent studies) alter the body’s ability to utilize testosterone. It has been seen that after multiple ejaculations a sharp decline in androgen receptors takes place inside the hypothalamus, and not only that, but a sharp increase in estrogen receptors follows as well. One rodent study also found out that 1 or 2 ejaculations in short span of time increased androgen receptor activity in the body, while 4 or more ejaculations caused a significant drop in the activity of AR, suggesting that ejaculating yourself to “sexual exhaustion” might lower your body’s ability to utilize androgens.
d) While masturbation induced ejaculations don’t seem to have that big of an effect on serum testosterone levels, sex with a real person does. For example: In a study of 44 men visiting a sex club, it was noted that the men who actually had sex in the club with a woman, noted a nice 72% average increase in their testosterone levels, while the men who only watched the act, got a boost of 11%. In another study, it was seen that on couples, testosterone levels increase on the nights that they have sexual intercourse, but not on the nights that they don’t. One study also saw that older men who have more sex, have higher T levels. What causes this if ejaculations don’t? It could be the interpersonal touch, the female pheromones, the feelings of dominance, power, and even success… ( source - Ejaculation and Testosterone: Does Busting a Nut Lower T? )
- Abstract
The purpose of this study is to gain understanding of the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men. The serum testosterone concentrations of 28 volunteers were investigated daily during abstinence periods after ejaculation for two phases. The authors found that the fluctuations of testosterone levels from the 2nd to 5th day of abstinence were minimal. On the 7th day of abstinence, however, a clear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline ( P < 0.01). No regular fluctuation was observed following continuous abstinence after the peak. Ejaculation is the precondition and beginning of the special periodic serum testosterone level variations, which would not occur without ejaculation. The results showed that ejaculation-caused variations were characterized by a peak on the 7th day of abstinence; and that the effective time of an ejaculation is 7 days minimum. These data are the first to document the phenomenon of the periodic change in serum testosterone level; the correlation between ejaculation and periodic change in the serum testosterone level, and the pattern and characteristics of the periodic change. (source- A research on the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men. - PubMed - NCBI)
I believe THIS is what you need to know about ejaculation and gains. By the way, let me link you some evidence it supports length work.
- https://www.Thund3rs Pl@ce.org/penis-enlargement-basics/stretching-after-masturbation.v3.html (if this link does not satisfy the mods or admins, please remove it, I am quite familiar with the reasons why it may not be inadequate, but it stands as a supporting proof of my argument)
- http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...orum/58140-stretching-after-masturbation.html
The ones I gave above are NOT the scientific arguments DLD came up with after his little micro study, but they are brethern who have tried it and as you can see it is 100% supporting evidence that it stretches easier after an orgasm.
If any of you wants a link to DLD's thread, please respond to this with "You're amazing Zam, send me that thread". rofl! Feels good to be here. Hopefully, I will have enough spare time to spend with you all! All the best, Zam!
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Are you 100% SURE you lost length? Maybe it was due to the erection problems. As DLD said- it is the girth that masturbation affects the most (and EQ). Length- it is quite beneficial. There are many threads where it is proven ( brothers have been put to the test of ejaculation vs no ejaculation to see if it would affect their gaining and size ).
What I think you all need to realize is that ejaculation (whether it is sex or masturbation) is not ALL THAT bad- it can help you out quite a lot if you know how to use it. Anyways- what matters A LOT (maybe the most) in PE is the production of the male sex hormone- TESTOSTERONE. Durring puberty (where it is at its peak) it causes male muscles to enlarge, facial hair growth (facial, pubic etc.) and natural PE (enlargement of the reproductive organs). This hormone is the most essential to PE!
So, if you are all interested, there are studies that stand to prove that you can manipulate your testosterone levels with ejaculation and abstinence (from ejaculation) periods. Some studies are listed below, enjoy and read.
- a) It’s known that short-term abstinence of 3 weeks can slightly increases testosterone levels in healthy human subjects, and one interesting study shows a significant 145% spike in T at the 7th day of abstinence (probably an evolutionary trigger to reproduce). However, long-term abstinence of 3 months has been shown to significantly reduce testosterone levels (note that this is only researched in men with erectile dysfunction, so the low T can be caused by something completely different).
b) In multiple human and animal studies, it has been noted that ejaculation does not acutely change serum testosterone levels, busting the common myth that ejaculation would rapidly deplete the body from testosterone (study, study, study, study).
c) Even though ejaculations seemingly have no significant effects on serum testosterone levels, they can (at least according to rodent studies) alter the body’s ability to utilize testosterone. It has been seen that after multiple ejaculations a sharp decline in androgen receptors takes place inside the hypothalamus, and not only that, but a sharp increase in estrogen receptors follows as well. One rodent study also found out that 1 or 2 ejaculations in short span of time increased androgen receptor activity in the body, while 4 or more ejaculations caused a significant drop in the activity of AR, suggesting that ejaculating yourself to “sexual exhaustion” might lower your body’s ability to utilize androgens.
d) While masturbation induced ejaculations don’t seem to have that big of an effect on serum testosterone levels, sex with a real person does. For example: In a study of 44 men visiting a sex club, it was noted that the men who actually had sex in the club with a woman, noted a nice 72% average increase in their testosterone levels, while the men who only watched the act, got a boost of 11%. In another study, it was seen that on couples, testosterone levels increase on the nights that they have sexual intercourse, but not on the nights that they don’t. One study also saw that older men who have more sex, have higher T levels. What causes this if ejaculations don’t? It could be the interpersonal touch, the female pheromones, the feelings of dominance, power, and even success… ( source - http://www.anabolicmen.com/ejaculation-testosterone/ )
- Abstract
The purpose of this study is to gain understanding of the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men. The serum testosterone concentrations of 28 volunteers were investigated daily during abstinence periods after ejaculation for two phases. The authors found that the fluctuations of testosterone levels from the 2nd to 5th day of abstinence were minimal. On the 7th day of abstinence, however, a clear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline ( P < 0.01). No regular fluctuation was observed following continuous abstinence after the peak. Ejaculation is the precondition and beginning of the special periodic serum testosterone level variations, which would not occur without ejaculation. The results showed that ejaculation-caused variations were characterized by a peak on the 7th day of abstinence; and that the effective time of an ejaculation is 7 days minimum. These data are the first to document the phenomenon of the periodic change in serum testosterone level; the correlation between ejaculation and periodic change in the serum testosterone level, and the pattern and characteristics of the periodic change. (source- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241)
I believe THIS is what you need to know about ejaculation and gains. By the way, let me link you some evidence it supports length work.
- https://www.Thund3rs Pl@ce.org/penis-enlargement-basics/stretching-after-masturbation.v3.html (if this link does not satisfy the mods or admins, please remove it, I am quite familiar with the reasons why it may not be inadequate, but it stands as a supporting proof of my argument)
- http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/masturbation-and-ejaculation-forum/58140-stretching-after-masturbation.html
The ones I gave above are NOT the scientific arguments DLD came up with after his little micro study, but they are brethern who have tried it and as you can see it is 100% supporting evidence that it stretches easier after an orgasm.
If any of you wants a link to DLD's thread, please respond to this with "You're amazing Zam, send me that thread". rofl! Feels good to be here. Hopefully, I will have enough spare time to spend with you all! All the best, Zam!
What I think you all need to realize is that ejaculation (whether it is sex or masturbation) is not ALL THAT bad- it can help you out quite a lot if you know how to use it. Anyways- what matters A LOT (maybe the most) in PE is the production of the male sex hormone- TESTOSTERONE. Durring puberty (where it is at its peak) it causes male muscles to enlarge, facial hair growth (facial, pubic etc.) and natural PE (enlargement of the reproductive organs). This hormone is the most essential to PE!
So, if you are all interested, there are studies that stand to prove that you can manipulate your testosterone levels with ejaculation and abstinence (from ejaculation) periods. Some studies are listed below, enjoy and read.
- a) It’s known that short-term abstinence of 3 weeks can slightly increases testosterone levels in healthy human subjects, and one interesting study shows a significant 145% spike in T at the 7th day of abstinence (probably an evolutionary trigger to reproduce). However, long-term abstinence of 3 months has been shown to significantly reduce testosterone levels (note that this is only researched in men with erectile dysfunction, so the low T can be caused by something completely different).
b) In multiple human and animal studies, it has been noted that ejaculation does not acutely change serum testosterone levels, busting the common myth that ejaculation would rapidly deplete the body from testosterone (study, study, study, study).
c) Even though ejaculations seemingly have no significant effects on serum testosterone levels, they can (at least according to rodent studies) alter the body’s ability to utilize testosterone. It has been seen that after multiple ejaculations a sharp decline in androgen receptors takes place inside the hypothalamus, and not only that, but a sharp increase in estrogen receptors follows as well. One rodent study also found out that 1 or 2 ejaculations in short span of time increased androgen receptor activity in the body, while 4 or more ejaculations caused a significant drop in the activity of AR, suggesting that ejaculating yourself to “sexual exhaustion” might lower your body’s ability to utilize androgens.
d) While masturbation induced ejaculations don’t seem to have that big of an effect on serum testosterone levels, sex with a real person does. For example: In a study of 44 men visiting a sex club, it was noted that the men who actually had sex in the club with a woman, noted a nice 72% average increase in their testosterone levels, while the men who only watched the act, got a boost of 11%. In another study, it was seen that on couples, testosterone levels increase on the nights that they have sexual intercourse, but not on the nights that they don’t. One study also saw that older men who have more sex, have higher T levels. What causes this if ejaculations don’t? It could be the interpersonal touch, the female pheromones, the feelings of dominance, power, and even success… ( source - Ejaculation and Testosterone: Does Busting a Nut Lower T? )
- Abstract
The purpose of this study is to gain understanding of the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men. The serum testosterone concentrations of 28 volunteers were investigated daily during abstinence periods after ejaculation for two phases. The authors found that the fluctuations of testosterone levels from the 2nd to 5th day of abstinence were minimal. On the 7th day of abstinence, however, a clear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline ( P < 0.01). No regular fluctuation was observed following continuous abstinence after the peak. Ejaculation is the precondition and beginning of the special periodic serum testosterone level variations, which would not occur without ejaculation. The results showed that ejaculation-caused variations were characterized by a peak on the 7th day of abstinence; and that the effective time of an ejaculation is 7 days minimum. These data are the first to document the phenomenon of the periodic change in serum testosterone level; the correlation between ejaculation and periodic change in the serum testosterone level, and the pattern and characteristics of the periodic change. (source- A research on the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men. - PubMed - NCBI)
I believe THIS is what you need to know about ejaculation and gains. By the way, let me link you some evidence it supports length work.
- https://www.Thund3rs Pl@ce.org/penis-enlargement-basics/stretching-after-masturbation.v3.html (if this link does not satisfy the mods or admins, please remove it, I am quite familiar with the reasons why it may not be inadequate, but it stands as a supporting proof of my argument)
- http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...orum/58140-stretching-after-masturbation.html
The ones I gave above are NOT the scientific arguments DLD came up with after his little micro study, but they are brethern who have tried it and as you can see it is 100% supporting evidence that it stretches easier after an orgasm.
If any of you wants a link to DLD's thread, please respond to this with "You're amazing Zam, send me that thread". rofl! Feels good to be here. Hopefully, I will have enough spare time to spend with you all! All the best, Zam!
- - - Updated - - -
Are you 100% SURE you lost length? Maybe it was due to the erection problems. As DLD said- it is the girth that masturbation affects the most (and EQ). Length- it is quite beneficial. There are many threads where it is proven ( brothers have been put to the test of ejaculation vs no ejaculation to see if it would affect their gaining and size ).
What I think you all need to realize is that ejaculation (whether it is sex or masturbation) is not ALL THAT bad- it can help you out quite a lot if you know how to use it. Anyways- what matters A LOT (maybe the most) in PE is the production of the male sex hormone- TESTOSTERONE. Durring puberty (where it is at its peak) it causes male muscles to enlarge, facial hair growth (facial, pubic etc.) and natural PE (enlargement of the reproductive organs). This hormone is the most essential to PE!
So, if you are all interested, there are studies that stand to prove that you can manipulate your testosterone levels with ejaculation and abstinence (from ejaculation) periods. Some studies are listed below, enjoy and read.
- a) It’s known that short-term abstinence of 3 weeks can slightly increases testosterone levels in healthy human subjects, and one interesting study shows a significant 145% spike in T at the 7th day of abstinence (probably an evolutionary trigger to reproduce). However, long-term abstinence of 3 months has been shown to significantly reduce testosterone levels (note that this is only researched in men with erectile dysfunction, so the low T can be caused by something completely different).
b) In multiple human and animal studies, it has been noted that ejaculation does not acutely change serum testosterone levels, busting the common myth that ejaculation would rapidly deplete the body from testosterone (study, study, study, study).
c) Even though ejaculations seemingly have no significant effects on serum testosterone levels, they can (at least according to rodent studies) alter the body’s ability to utilize testosterone. It has been seen that after multiple ejaculations a sharp decline in androgen receptors takes place inside the hypothalamus, and not only that, but a sharp increase in estrogen receptors follows as well. One rodent study also found out that 1 or 2 ejaculations in short span of time increased androgen receptor activity in the body, while 4 or more ejaculations caused a significant drop in the activity of AR, suggesting that ejaculating yourself to “sexual exhaustion” might lower your body’s ability to utilize androgens.
d) While masturbation induced ejaculations don’t seem to have that big of an effect on serum testosterone levels, sex with a real person does. For example: In a study of 44 men visiting a sex club, it was noted that the men who actually had sex in the club with a woman, noted a nice 72% average increase in their testosterone levels, while the men who only watched the act, got a boost of 11%. In another study, it was seen that on couples, testosterone levels increase on the nights that they have sexual intercourse, but not on the nights that they don’t. One study also saw that older men who have more sex, have higher T levels. What causes this if ejaculations don’t? It could be the interpersonal touch, the female pheromones, the feelings of dominance, power, and even success… ( source - http://www.anabolicmen.com/ejaculation-testosterone/ )
- Abstract
The purpose of this study is to gain understanding of the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men. The serum testosterone concentrations of 28 volunteers were investigated daily during abstinence periods after ejaculation for two phases. The authors found that the fluctuations of testosterone levels from the 2nd to 5th day of abstinence were minimal. On the 7th day of abstinence, however, a clear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline ( P < 0.01). No regular fluctuation was observed following continuous abstinence after the peak. Ejaculation is the precondition and beginning of the special periodic serum testosterone level variations, which would not occur without ejaculation. The results showed that ejaculation-caused variations were characterized by a peak on the 7th day of abstinence; and that the effective time of an ejaculation is 7 days minimum. These data are the first to document the phenomenon of the periodic change in serum testosterone level; the correlation between ejaculation and periodic change in the serum testosterone level, and the pattern and characteristics of the periodic change. (source- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241)
I believe THIS is what you need to know about ejaculation and gains. By the way, let me link you some evidence it supports length work.
- https://www.Thund3rs Pl@ce.org/penis-enlargement-basics/stretching-after-masturbation.v3.html (if this link does not satisfy the mods or admins, please remove it, I am quite familiar with the reasons why it may not be inadequate, but it stands as a supporting proof of my argument)
- http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/masturbation-and-ejaculation-forum/58140-stretching-after-masturbation.html
The ones I gave above are NOT the scientific arguments DLD came up with after his little micro study, but they are brethern who have tried it and as you can see it is 100% supporting evidence that it stretches easier after an orgasm.
If any of you wants a link to DLD's thread, please respond to this with "You're amazing Zam, send me that thread". rofl! Feels good to be here. Hopefully, I will have enough spare time to spend with you all! All the best, Zam!
doublelongdaddy;676938 said:
I can only speak for myself but, exactly! At one point I went on a no fapping spree and I think the longest I lasted was roughly 2 months. I eventually gave in and repeated the no fapping thing again while continually failing. This sounds kind of stupid but, it actually affected me emotionally and when I learned to simply control it rather than going to the extremes (fapping continuously or not fapping at all), I felt better.
LONGERDICK7+
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maybe i should spend the next 3 weeks whit no masturbation at all n see how it goes..:s
Brothers I go with no masturbation all year !
Must be like a few years maybe since I last masturbated ?
I have my wife for sex and BJs lol dont know if that counts.
Must be like a few years maybe since I last masturbated ?
I have my wife for sex and BJs lol dont know if that counts.
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BigBeardBig;680618 said:
Shes helping a lot thats great.
doublelongdaddy;680676 said:
You heard it from the guru himself brothers, I couldnt agree more !
If Im horny there is no need to use hand ´when I got my sexy wife
)
BigBeardBig;680749 said:You heard it from the guru himself brothers, I couldnt agree more !
If Im horny there is no need to use hand ´when I got my sexy wife
Thank You my Brother!
Another thing that should be thought on is the type of adult entertainment being used for masturbation if any. Switching up what you watch is important as it will no allow you to become desensitized by any one fetish. If I was the same type of erotic material over and over I will grow very bored with it. It is best to stick with soft core or even more innocent. Starting there gives you miles of other things to view.
LONGERDICK7+
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yeah but i think you are right having a nice bunny to spend the days whit is much better lol
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What's the sickest shit yall have jacked off to? :s I must confess that once I kept watching videos of animals fucking such as turtles, crocodile, cuttlefish, ostrich, slugs, frogs (this ones funny XD), zebra (ultimate cumshot), sea slugs(each one has a cock ?
). I didn't jack off to them, but I guess I was still very enthralled
). I didn't jack off to them, but I guess I was still very enthralleddoublelongdaddy;681026 said:
Absolutely, when I was really hooked on adult entertainment all I could watch was Mike Adriano style doing anal, they use very specific camera shots I like and I couldnt watch anything else (everything else seemed boring). I has to work hard and stop all this and switch to soft, even like girls dancing with leggins on and shaking ass. If you get to the point where you have to watch more hardcore, more hardcore and more hardcore shit all the time you are fucked.
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BigBeardBig;681139 said:
The brain gets numbed n youd want more n more intense stuff,i think average adult entertainment is ok but there is "quality adult entertainment" too,LOL but lately i have realized that things can get better whit no adult entertainment at all...but yeah i think most men watch adult entertainment..
I'm personally into the "candid" stuff. It's about as soft core as you can get.
shortdick;681147 said:
Yeah, pretty much no adult entertainment for me either. Just very soft stuff for girth work
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doublelongdaddy;681390 said:
Been there done that. Easily handled by stopping 1 day, resisting the next day, finding a new replacement for that vacant space. Studying perhaps, playing a game, watching a movie, or something entertaining. I used to get deep into it. And even so into a heavier, more brutal deeper level. Literally. It was horrible and I regret it so much. All is better now in that aspect. No more masturbation for me because I am too depressed to do so. My love is possibly leaving me, she refrains contact from me in every way. But the bright side is that masturbation resistance is at a 100% level.
kyomoto;681731 said:
Yes, I have picked up on my studies in Physics over the last week and this is taking a lot of my time and as you said, a perfect solution for masturbation out of boredom. Many times I will masturbate because I am bored and there is really uno pleasure in this. I wish I had a girl so I would not even have this to think on
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doublelongdaddy;681895 said:Yes, I have picked up on my studies in Physics over the last week and this is taking a lot of my time and as you said, a perfect solution for masturbation out of boredom. Many times I will masturbate because I am bored and there is really uno pleasure in this. I wish I had a girl so I would not even have this to think on
Yeah. Masturbation because of boredom is not good. It means there's time that needs to be filled with other things. Have you tried taking a class of some sort to learn something new? Like how to make crafts, perhaps exercise with a group, or maybe improve in one of your skills. Like I currently am learning how to perform digital art using Gimp 2.0
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kyomoto;681930 said:
learning something new is a good idea n keeps the mind busy instead of watching too much adult entertainment...lol
kyomoto;681930 said:
I have been keeping my mind in a good place with my studies and watching the political rodeo. I am happy to be studying theory again as int always leads to new discoveries in PE. Right now I am concentrating a neurological abilities and how to harness these neurons to benefit our physical life. In addition back in the rabbit hole with Quantum Mechanics but that is where I love to be
Masturbation needs to be kept as a pleasure not an addiction. Even I come close to going too far and this is why I find so much value in this thread.
kyomoto
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doublelongdaddy;682055 said:I have been keeping my mind in a good place with my studies and watching the political rodeo. I am happy to be studying theory again as int always leads to new discoveries in PE. Right now I am concentrating a neurological abilities and how to harness these neurons to benefit our physical life. In addition back in the rabbit hole with Quantum Mechanics but that is where I love to be
Masturbation needs to be kept as a pleasure not an addiction. Even I come close to going too far and this is why I find so much value in this thread.
That's great. It's a great start leading to something you may develop yourself
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that sounds like sith talk. are you joining the dark side?doublelongdaddy;682055 said:I have been keeping my mind in a good place with my studies and watching the political rodeo. I am happy to be studying theory again as int always leads to new discoveries in PE. Right now I am concentrating a neurological abilities and how to harness these neurons to benefit our physical life. In addition back in the rabbit hole with Quantum Mechanics but that is where I love to be
Masturbation needs to be kept as a pleasure not an addiction. Even I come close to going too far and this is why I find so much value in this thread.
(shhh i think DLD might be Darth plagious!)
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I experimented this morning with my usual [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] routine, (10/2/5/2/10), recalling a DLD post about the d!ck being most malleable during the refractory stage and he was spot-on! I was able to attain a personal best of 8.50" in my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] after orgasm and clean-up. It felt like I could just keep on pumping w/little/no resistance...I may have to incorporate this a couple times per week, (the only problem is that I usually save all my orgasming for time spent w/my GF on the weekends). I'll have to find a comfortable balance as I add this into my weekly regimen
Big Schwanz Acht;693100 said:
Yup, a very good time to take advantage of length work. Sometimes it is hard for someone to get to a level of fatigue for one reason or another and when this is the case they can use masturbation and the refractory period in the same way. A typical refractory period is about 15-30 minutes so this gives ample time to get in a great length workout. So this is understood, the reason fatigue allows for better length work is because the pelvic floor muscles become too exhausted to prevent any of the intensity.
Big Schwanz Acht
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I'll definitely be incorporating this into my routine...seems like a no-brainer
doublelongdaddy;693111 said:
A little confused... he said he masturbated before pumping with his [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] but you say the refractory period is good for length work. Did you mean it's good for both length and girth work?
I agree, masturbation reduces length in the sense that, it makes it difficult to have a solid erection
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