Why i no longer stretch while working for girth.

jekyllnhyde360 · Aug 21, 2015

for years i thought a combination of the two was best, until recently i gave the stretching a rest.
I never had the chance to see how long expansion can really stay in it's full capacity, because prior to just recently i thought that if i didnt stretch i wouldn't gain.
(the reason is early in my training i gained a lot of length doing both, so i though i had to stretch to gain either way)
Plus, i thought that if i did girth and didnt stretch, i would lose length.
But anyways, so i started doing girth sessions, and just leaving it, no stretching or anything, and the crazy thing is, my expansion stays for days at a time, where as before, no matter how much expansion i got, the second i did some stretching, i would go right back to my original girth.
And funny enough, i just did some bundled stretching after reading the post, and BAM, right back to my original size.
So, atleast for me, ill stick to just girth work, and do one thing at a time.

ChilDsh · Aug 21, 2015

jekyllnhyde360;660389 said:
for years i thought a combination of the two was best, until recently i gave the stretching a rest.
I never had the chance to see how long expansion can really stay in it's full capacity, because prior to just recently i thought that if i didnt stretch i wouldn't gain.
(the reason is early in my training i gained a lot of length doing both, so i though i had to stretch to gain either way)
Plus, i thought that if i did girth and didnt stretch, i would lose length.
But anyways, so i started doing girth sessions, and just leaving it, no stretching or anything, and the crazy thing is, my expansion stays for days at a time, where as before, no matter how much expansion i got, the second i did some stretching, i would go right back to my original girth.
And funny enough, i just did some bundled stretching after reading the post, and BAM, right back to my original size.
So, atleast for me, ill stick to just girth work, and do one thing at a time.

Why would you stretch during girth work?And how the hell did you do that?Even if you do 100 jelqs you're dick will be expanded and very hard to stretch xD , almost impossible..at least for me.You must be some freak of the nature if your dick is expanded for days after girth work...wear the cock ring as much as possible and you will gain girth like crazy.

Doundar · Aug 21, 2015

Interesting. I've always been working on length or length+girth. My first goal is length. But your post really deserves attention. I wonder what DLD thinks about that.

jekyllnhyde360 · Aug 21, 2015

I think you may have miss understood what i meant when i said train girth and length at the same time.
I don't mean train length and girth in the same session, what i meant was , when im trying to gain girth and working solely on that, im going to stop doing stretches throughout the day, and give up on stretching completely, because i find that after stretching my girth expansion is gone.
And ya my expansion stays for a few days, it's pretty sweet, but after like 1 a day it goes down to half the expansion then by the second day im back at my original size. lol

acromegaly · Aug 21, 2015

It's probably just in your head or you are turtling from over doing it. Also you are supposed to do bundles BEFORE training that is what DLD said at least

jekyllnhyde360 · Aug 21, 2015

No, it's not in my head, ive taken measurements before stretching session and after a stretching session, and the expansion from my girth session is always smaller after stretching.

pradox · Aug 21, 2015

acromegaly;660406 said:
Also you are supposed to do bundles BEFORE training that is what DLD said at least

Really?! Man, I'm doing it wrong this whole time...lol

What I do (and it's working till now) is twist my penis and perform the newbie routine in every direction; then, twist it to the other side and repeat 2 more times.

Gonna keep checking my BPFSL to see if it'll grow steadily.

JakeM82 · Aug 21, 2015

jekyllnhyde360;660407 said:
No, it's not in my head, ive taken measurements before stretching session and after a stretching session, and the expansion from my girth session is always smaller after stretching.

There are certainly some stretches to do before girth work, bundles for example are definitely a pre-girth stretch and everyone should do them before girth work. The reason that expansion seems less to you, even measurably is because the stretched tissue is far less likely to get fluid retention which is part of your measured expansion (and is for everyone). So when you stretch reduction in Fluid Retention will lead to what looks like less expansion or pump, but what is really just healthier expansion or pump (more tissue, less fluid), not to mention healthier EQ as a result

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acromegaly · Aug 21, 2015

JakeM82;660412 said:
There are certainly some stretches to do before girth work, bundles for example are definitely a pre-girth stretch and everyone should do them before girth work. The reason that expansion seems less to you, even measurably is because the stretched tissue is far less likely to get fluid retention which is part of your measured expansion (and is for everyone). So when you stretch reduction in Fluid Retention will lead to what looks like less expansion or pump, but what is really just healthier expansion or pump (more tissue, less fluid), not to mention healthier EQ as a result .

That's what I was thinking too, he might be smoothing out FR

jekyllnhyde360 · Aug 21, 2015

I appreciate you guys diving deep on this one, but no.
It's not a lack of fluid or anything, the reason why my expansion is smaller after stretching is because when you stretch the shaft vertically your expanding length wise, so it forces the blood that causes the temporary expansion out of the shaft, leaving you thinner.
It's pretty simple to understand, common sense actually.

JakeM82 · Aug 21, 2015

jekyllnhyde360;660426 said:
I appreciate you guys diving deep on this one, but no.
It's not a lack of fluid or anything, the reason why my expansion is smaller after stretching is because when you stretch the shaft vertically your expanding length wise, so it forces the blood that causes the temporary expansion out of the shaft, leaving you thinner.
It's pretty simple to understand, common sense actually.

This seems to be true to some extent, especially at higher pressure pumping and something I noticed for myself too (but bundles have changed that for me to an extent now). Try to get some quantitative results around this if you can. Try stretching then pumping and get a full set of measurements, then pump without stretching and do the same. I would like to see what the difference looks like for length changes for you, see if it is proportionate to the change in expansion.

I have this happen as well but only at higher pressure, if I stay at lower pressure I just get expansion (and more expansion) and the more tunica stretches I do the better the expansion I seem to get. I will try to measure this same way myself and see if I can connect the results.

Just to be clear, not trying to argue about what you are doing and your thoughts on it. Just trying to research and see if we can get some clear data that might help other guys too.

jekyllnhyde360 · Aug 21, 2015

i think im just going to stick to girth exercises for now, once i cement my girth gains ill focus on stretching.
I have the best girth routine ever created, its hella intense and brings my atleast 3/4 of an inch in expansion.
I use exercises that i used to ask Red about all the time before he left, so i just changed them a bit and now im getting crazy expansion.

DLD · Aug 21, 2015

jekyllnhyde360;660433 said:
i think im just going to stick to girth exercises for now, once i cement my girth gains ill focus on stretching.
I have the best girth routine ever created, its hella intense and brings my atleast 3/4 of an inch in expansion.
I use exercises that i used to ask Red about all the time before he left, so i just changed them a bit and now im getting crazy expansion.

No matter length only or girth only, make sure you get some Tunica stretching in through Bundles on your LengthMaster, in your SizeGenetics or by hand. This is very important to giving more room for tissue expansion. 5 to 10 minutes before your workout is plenty.

templnite · Aug 21, 2015

Yes Jekyll the bundles aren't only for length now. *thanks jake:blush:*

stillwantmore · Aug 21, 2015

This has been my experience as well. I only train girth, or length. I get better results from either this way because I can stay focused more easily for one thing. My pumps, or expansion from my girth sessions usually last into the next day. This is a very good sign you are hitting girth with enough intensity. Consistent expansion every session, a fat, heavy hang when flaccid, and expansion that lasts at least a few hours if not longer.

jekyllnhyde360 · Aug 21, 2015

Awesome, thanks Still!
There a tone of great new guys on here, and there coming up with so pretty solid material, but i really needed to talk to an original like you, and God bless DLD, but i can't be taking up all of his time, and Red aint here anymore, which is a big shame.
I get good expansion im pretty sure, i stay expanded for the entire day without even wearing an adc, and the next day, i've usually went down some (about half the original expansion) but im still half pumped.
In your opinion is that the type of expansion that i should be looking for, or that lead to solid gains?
appreciate your opinion on this.

templnite · Aug 22, 2015

Whenever I do low-grip stretches I end up with a chubby flaccid ?

, also stretching makes me prone to easier erections?

stillwantmore · Aug 22, 2015

jekyllnhyde360;660516 said:
Awesome, thanks Still!
There a tone of great new guys on here, and there coming up with so pretty solid material, but i really needed to talk to an original like you, and God bless DLD, but i can't be taking up all of his time, and Red aint here anymore, which is a big shame.
I get good expansion im pretty sure, i stay expanded for the entire day without even wearing an adc, and the next day, i've usually went down some (about half the original expansion) but im still half pumped.
In your opinion is that the type of expansion that i should be looking for, or that lead to solid gains?
appreciate your opinion on this.

Lol, you are answering your own question. Yes, this is the expansion you are looking for. I feel like a Jedi saying that.

TreasureHunter · Aug 22, 2015

ChilDsh;660399 said:
Why would you stretch during girth work?And how the hell did you do that?

Many of the exercises in RED's Clamping Guide involve stretching while doing girth work, which increases both length and girth.

Aimingforthetop · Aug 22, 2015

Whatever you do mate. Remember that whatever works for you. Is the thing right for you.

I dont want to sound like an asshole. And please look away from the MOD title at my name as i am just talking as a member now.

But it seems to me that this thread has this: "what you say is wrong because its not what we experience"

MOS is the place where we encourage people to try out new stuff.

And although this theory might not work for everyone else.

If it works for him. It is amazing! And it is wonderful that he shares this with us. As maybe just 1% of the guys here will benefit from trying the same.

Im not bashing anyone. I just felt that the tone in this thread ended up with jekyll trying to defend the fact that he tryed something new that seemed to work for him.

And i don't think thats the way to go.

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