Testosteron20;343604 said:
Im sorry guys but here is the thing..

1) the study you post was done in PRE PUBERTY with MICRO Penis EnlargementNISES.When they got topical dht gel they reach their max size just earlier or with other words when a child get steroids they get into the puberty much earlier.So that doesnt mean they got bigger penis then when they would get no dht and wait till they get into puberty

2) DHT is very old news.10 years back till 2day there are thousands of people using several chemicals like dht gel and also injections with no results including me .I ordered from allsaintclinic.

Several members here at MOS reported gains from it. And in theory it will work.
http://www.beabiggerman.com/andractim-gel/
http://www.beabiggerman.com/penis-exercises-andractim-plan.html

Try it again with the plan described in the second link.

Its like saying "Testosterone injection did not work for me,it will not work for you either" which is not the case because if you do it the right way you increase the chances of success.


T,do you have any other DHT supplier? :)
 
Are you going to believe each commercial site on the net dude ? Is it a doctor or a clinical studie done on adults without micropenis?

which theory ? That the DHT receptors are still open? ..haha if this was true then why dont we have all 20 inch penises ..DHT hormone is active in your whole life but thats not the case with the receptors in the penis and epifhyses(forgot the exact name) in your bones.

dont get me wrong , I was very excited about DHT 2 years back (i was 18 ) ,like alot of others that thought pe/jelqing/stretching would be history and we all going to become huge with chemicals but the opposite was true and i got very very depressed because of my small hopes.

And bro ,you dont have to believe me ..just fill up the profile at the allsaintclinic and then you will get two tubes with a psa check and see for your self.

Good luck.
 
Testosteron, I know yourtrying to help out. Thanks for sharing your opinion :)
But since some members have gained using DHT andractim,I will give it a shot.

I choose to belive what works in theory & facts before I make any judgement on a product. Because so many have asked me questions about DHT I have really gotten into it and been reading a lot about how it works with the penile tissue.

There is a study in the other DHT related thread I made about Androgel causing normal sized children to increase in penis size. This is why FDA has declared an warning on many Androgels.

Goldmember made an post about the receptors being very active even at adult age,and if you combined DHT with another drug you would increase the activity. Can not recall but will search for his post.

This does all support the Gvt theory, but I do mostly belive in the Etp Theory made by Wadzilla.

Thanks yet again for sharing your opinion. ;)
Testosteron20;343628 said:
Are you going to believe each commercial site on the net dude ? Is it a doctor or a clinical studie done on adults without micropenis?

which theory ? That the DHT receptors are still open? ..haha if this was true then why dont we have all 20 inch penises ..DHT hormone is active in your whole life but thats not the case with the receptors in the penis and epifhyses(forgot the exact name) in your bones.

dont get me wrong , I was very excited about DHT 2 years back (i was 18 ) ,like alot of others that thought pe/jelqing/stretching would be history and we all going to become huge with chemicals but the opposite was true and i got very very depressed because of my small hopes.

And bro ,you dont have to believe me ..just fill up the profile at the allsaintclinic and then you will get two tubes with a psa check and see for your self.

Good luck.
 
Hello all. I'm new here @ the forum but i'm not new to Penis Enlargement; I've been active at another forum for a few years and know my stuff pretty well.

c.phantasy;343572 said:
Green tea rasises it by 192%. But Tea contains Caffeine so its a double edged sword.

I'm not so sure thats true. I just read a study about how Green Tea actually blocks the DHT receptors, which raises the amount of testosterone (less testosterone converted to DHT, means more testosterone available). Something like that. I'll find a link and post it later.

Also people, don't just go rubbing DHT on your dick. Although I haven't tried it yet, i've been doing a lot of research. DHT will send negative feedback to your Pituitary gland, which controls the production of the gonadotropins (LH and FSH). LH is responsible for signaling your testes to produce testosterone. In a few studies I read (today, actually), DHT use suppressed the production of LH.

Anyone have any updates on their use?
 
invictus;346248 said:
Hello all. I'm new here @ the forum but i'm not new to Penis Enlargement; I've been active at another forum for a few years and know my stuff pretty well.



I'm not so sure thats true. I just read a study about how Green Tea actually blocks the DHT receptors, which raises the amount of testosterone (less testosterone converted to DHT, means more testosterone available). Something like that. I'll find a link and post it later.



Also people, don't just go rubbing DHT on your dick. Although I haven't tried it yet, i've been doing a lot of research. DHT will send negative feedback to your Pituitary gland, which controls the production of the gonadotropins (LH and FSH). LH is responsible for signaling your testes to produce testosterone. In a few studies I read (today, actually), DHT use suppressed the production of LH.

Anyone have any updates on their use?
Thanks for the information. And as always,there are risks involved in our progress. If your in the game to win,well... ;)
 
Hey bro(c.phantasy).So what now....would you still try the gel in your routine?From what he mentions about affecting the body's LH,and FSH,wouldn't this be prevented by the cycling that you are supposed to do?I mean,this gel is prescribed for gyno,and libido issues for people who need it...so it must be good and have positive things about it right?I don't know,I'm just kind of confused now,because of what that guy in this thread said.So what do you think?Hope to hear back from you soon.Later.
 
http://www.pegym.com/forums/exercise-fitness/3747-green-tea-raises-dht-testosterone-levels.html An increase of 194% in DHT due to GT.
:D
penisbuilder;346386 said:
Hey bro(c.phantasy).So what now....would you still try the gel in your routine?From what he mentions about affecting the body's LH,and FSH,wouldn't this be prevented by the cycling that you are supposed to do?I mean,this gel is prescribed for gyno,and libido issues for people who need it...so it must be good and have positive things about it right?I don't know,I'm just kind of confused now,because of what that guy in this thread said.So what do you think?Hope to hear back from you soon.Later.
I agree.Cycling is the way to go. ;)
 
Check this out. Green tea blocks the 5ar enzyme that converts testosterone to DHT; thus increasing the amount of testosterone, not DHT. Although according to this article, the testosterone is bound. So basically, green tea is bad for DHT. Although it is good for many other uses, it is bad for DHT. This is an excerpt from the PDF file I found off of Google.

"Therapeutic Recommendations: Herbal [article about male pattern baldness]

Green Tea (Camellia Sinesis)- Catechins that are in green tea are believed to hinder the enzyme 5-alpha-reductase that changes testosterone into the deterrent, DHT. A considerable intake of green tea is associated with higher levels of sex hormone-binding protein—or globulin, which transports hormones like testosterone through the body in a bound, unusable variety so that tissues cannot use it directly. Testosterone is normally transported through the body by this binding protein, therefore, lowering the levels of free testosterone, so that it would not be transformed to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) in the hair follicle [or in our case, the tissue], which is believed to curtail the hair cycle and cause hair loss in men [or in our case, tissue healing]. It is for that reason that researchers deem green tea effective in preventing and treating male pattern baldness [because it effectively reduces DHT].
"

Source:
http://www.jashbotanicals.com/articles/healthy_hair.pdf
(Its the 5th search result from the top)

Other articles:
"Enzymatic Hydrolysis of Green Tea Seed Extract and Its Activity on 5α-Reductase Inhibition"
http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bbb/70/2/70_387/_article
 
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