Twice Daily Sessions: A Big-Gainer Principle?

I've been theorizing a lot about how much time should be spent on Penis Enlargement to see the most gains. The most obvious thought is "the more the better". But I think it is more complex than that...

I have noticed after re-reading Dash's thread on the Dash Rap (an awesome technique for girth) that he followed a twice daily split...So did DLD for much of his big-gain run...as did Bib...as does SWM. All of these guys are Big-Gainers (TM?) :D

Recently, my routines have been going for about three hours whenever I get the time...definitely along the lines of "more is better". But today, I decided to try two 30-minute sessions, spread about 8 hours apart. First session was 3 reps of the Dash Rap, and 8 hours later, another three reps of the Dash Rap. Something I noticed is that my PRE-WORKOUT cock (before workout#1) was about 5.75" erect girth. My PRE-WORKOUT cock (before workout#2) was about 5.875" erect girth. Obviously some inflammation going on in those eight hours (very little if any fluid buildup).

Two hours after my second workout, my erect girth exceeded 6.0" by about one hash mark. Not only that, but the second workout was borderline PAINFUL even though I didn't go any harder than workout#1.

Maybe a double-split routine is the way to go for Big-Gains. I would love it if DLD, SWM, Dash, and Bib(?) would chime in on this one. The double-split routine may be one of those overlooked--or I should say underemphasized--principles of a penis enlargement regiment.

I do girth morning and night, probably alittle more spread than 8 hours, but I think it is a wast of time to do only girth once a day. In the following months I might very well add a midday girth session.:dj:

I'm seeing better results this time around using a daily split routine. I think it will in fact yield better results for me this time around than a once a day routine. Unlike many men, I understand that the penis is a different creature so to speak. For whatever the reason too many men involved in Penis Enlargement develop the belief that the penis should be treated like a muscle group. It contains almost NO muscle tissue, and the very little it DOES contain is SMOOTH muscle which is totally different than SKELETAL muscle. The penis is when you break it down from a composition standpoint mostly "skin" and skin-like tissues. Skin reacts best ....assuming you want to stretch it, to constant, or repeated tension.

Look at body modifiers. People not only in "pop" culture, but also people in third world countries who stretch skin on different parts of their bodies. Their ear lobes, lips, noses, etc. They use reeds, tubes of ever increasing sizes, etc. to keep a constant, and ever increasing tension on the skin they want to stretch. When it comes to skin, and skin-like tissue, more IS more. When it comes to muscle which NEEDS time to recover after tension...less is more. Over time, skin not only stretches more, and more little by little....but it also stays stretched.

Look at people who lose large amounts of weight. They are usually left with loose skin on parts of their bodies that usually only can be fixed through surgery to remove the excess skin that has been stretched over the years through gaining body fat. This is a big reason why I really frown on these people in my generation who are stretching their ears or lips, or whatever to these rediculous guages....they will NOT shrink back after you stretch these skins so far.

This is good for us involved in Penis Enlargement however, who are seeking permanent increases in size.

Great topic idea here dude!

I think this is what I need to break my little plateau as well. I was doing a split clamping routine and that is definately when I gained the most but because of school, working out(gym) and work, I didn't have time, not only that but I was getting sick of planning everything around my dick workouts. I'm gonna try and do twoadays as often as I can and see if I can't get past that Mid shaft EG of 6.

I firmly believe in the split routine because it compounds girth building efforts. In other words, while the penis is still in a state of expansion you expand it again and take advantage of the weakend state of the tissues to get a bit more for your efforts. Additionally, by using a split routine you are keeping your penis more in the repair stage and less in the heal stage. Split by 12 hours would be optimum.

Very few folks actually understand how to do the dash rap successfully. When done correctly it can be extremely intense as I am sure you quickly realized. You should make a video guide for folks dude.

goldmember said:

I've been theorizing a lot about how much time should be spent on Penis Enlargement to see the most gains. The most obvious thought is "the more the better". But I think it is more complex than that...

I have noticed after re-reading Dash's thread on the Dash Rap (an awesome technique for girth) that he followed a twice daily split...So did DLD for much of his big-gain run...as did Bib...as does SWM. All of these guys are Big-Gainers (TM?) :D

Recently, my routines have been going for about three hours whenever I get the time...definitely along the lines of "more is better". But today, I decided to try two 30-minute sessions, spread about 8 hours apart. First session was 3 reps of the Dash Rap, and 8 hours later, another three reps of the Dash Rap. Something I noticed is that my PRE-WORKOUT cock (before workout#1) was about 5.75" erect girth. My PRE-WORKOUT cock (before workout#2) was about 5.875" erect girth. Obviously some inflammation going on in those eight hours (very little if any fluid buildup).

Two hours after my second workout, my erect girth exceeded 6.0" by about one hash mark. Not only that, but the second workout was borderline PAINFUL even though I didn't go any harder than workout#1.

Maybe a double-split routine is the way to go for Big-Gains. I would love it if DLD, SWM, Dash, and Bib(?) would chime in on this one. The double-split routine may be one of those overlooked--or I should say underemphasized--principles of a penis enlargement regiment.

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stillwantmore2 said:

I'm seeing better results this time around using a daily split routine. I think it will in fact yield better results for me this time around than a once a day routine. Unlike many men, I understand that the penis is a different creature so to speak. For whatever the reason too many men involved in Penis Enlargement develop the belief that the penis should be treated like a muscle group. It contains almost NO muscle tissue, and the very little it DOES contain is SMOOTH muscle which is totally different than SKELETAL muscle. The penis is when you break it down from a composition standpoint mostly "skin" and skin-like tissues. Skin reacts best ....assuming you want to stretch it, to constant, or repeated tension.

Look at body modifiers. People not only in "pop" culture, but also people in third world countries who stretch skin on different parts of their bodies. Their ear lobes, lips, noses, etc. They use reeds, tubes of ever increasing sizes, etc. to keep a constant, and ever increasing tension on the skin they want to stretch. When it comes to skin, and skin-like tissue, more IS more. When it comes to muscle which NEEDS time to recover after tension...less is more. Over time, skin not only stretches more, and more little by little....but it also stays stretched.

Look at people who lose large amounts of weight. They are usually left with loose skin on parts of their bodies that usually only can be fixed through surgery to remove the excess skin that has been stretched over the years through gaining body fat. This is a big reason why I really frown on these people in my generation who are stretching their ears or lips, or whatever to these rediculous guages....they will NOT shrink back after you stretch these skins so far.

This is good for us involved in Penis Enlargement however, who are seeking permanent increases in size.

Great topic idea here dude!

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Awesome analogy! Thanks for sharing your wisdom.

Dashdeming said:

I firmly believe in the split routine because it compounds girth building efforts. In other words, while the penis is still in a state of expansion you expand it again and take advantage of the weakend state of the tissues to get a bit more for your efforts. Additionally, by using a split routine you are keeping your penis more in the repair stage and less in the heal stage. Split by 12 hours would be optimum.

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I agree with you completely. 12 hour split seems like it would be ideal.

Dashdeming said:

Very few folks actually understand how to do the dash rap successfully. When done correctly it can be extremely intense as I am sure you quickly realized. You should make a video guide for folks dude.

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The Dash Rap should have been invented earlier. It is truly an amazing girth exercise...not sure why so many people have trouble comprehending it. Words were enough for me to understand, and the pictures make it even easier to understand. So many guys were shouting out for a video to be made...I would love to make a video of the exercise, but unfortunately, my webcam is of such low resolution, not only does it cut video to 30 seconds, but everything is choppy and grainy...

It seems like everyone so far agrees that the double-split routine is the way to go. If only we could get Bib and DLD to add their insights.

do you need or would it be a good idea to do split routine for length??

Or is this just concerning girth?

Because i am just getting as much length in as a can thoughout the day? is this good or should i change to split routine?

bulc9 said:

do you need or would it be a good idea to do split routine for length??

Or is this just concerning girth?

Because i am just getting as much length in as a can thoughout the day? is this good or should i change to split routine?

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I can't answer your question for sure, but I know that Bib did his hanging routine in two sessions. I would think that the idea of keeping the tissue under tension doesn't really depend on whether you are training length or girth.

yeah, i'm going to start doing that too probably on weekends when i have time.
i'll probably just double my excersie.

I would contend that the theory applies to both length and girth routines and I do a split on both and always have.

bulc9 said:

do you need or would it be a good idea to do split routine for length??

Or is this just concerning girth?

Because i am just getting as much length in as a can thoughout the day? is this good or should i change to split routine?

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Dashdeming said:

"�other forum�- The emotional Penis Enlargement site where they ban you simply because you are an MOS MOD." - Dash

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What's DLD got to add to this discussion? I'm sure you have some insight you can shed on us...

with length i thought that the more the penis is in its extended state the better?

So if ive got a hanging routine, i shud hang morning 30mins then night 30mins??

will that be enough to gain?

i was thinking of hanging 4 times a day between 20 and 30mins

I started my Penis Enlargement career at NBP 5 x 5 and am now at NBP 6.4 x 5.5.
With a routine that consisted of 15 min. stretching, 15 min erect manual clamping and 30 min jelqs I jumped from my starting size to 5.9 x 5.25 in 3 to 4 months.
Five weeks ago I was at 6.1 x 5.25 when I started a am/pm routine consisting of 20 min Jelqs at about 80% erection and 50 Uli Squeezes.
Yesterday I measured and was at 6.4 x 5.5.

To compare:

Once a day workout lasting one hour: + 0.9" length and + 0.25" girth in 3 months

Twice a day workout each lasting about 30 min: + 0.3" length and + 0.25" girth in 5 weeks

If you extrapolate I made the same girth gains in about a third of the time.
Length gains would stay the same, but there is no special length workout included.

Conclusion: As the once a day and the am/pm-workout consisted of different exercises, except the Jelq (which I did at a lower intensity earlier), and were of different intensities (compare erect holds and Uli Squeeze) the comparison is of a low reliability.
Interesting it gets only if we compare the time used. Both workouts took about one hour a day. The gains in length are the same without a special length workout (Jelqs at 80% erections work on both length and girth, but are no exercise optimized for length).
The girth gains tripled even though I used similar girth exercises, just at higher intensities.
As I said my comparison doesn't prove the theory but I think it shows that it could be right.

Thanks for that, Citizen. It adds a bit of validity to the theory.

i've been doing twice a day sessions recently and although i haven't measured yet, i DEFINATELY feel a difference.
twice is better.

Multiple session, split sessions and the like have always been a critical part of my routine. Many have sited this to be the reason I have gained more than any. I believe this to be true for a few reasons. Physical reasons have been covered in this thread already. My only addition to this is the fact that multiple girth sessions keep the penis in an expanded state for a longer period making the permanence threshold theoretically faster. Again, with length, multiple session keep the penis in an extended state increasing the speed of gaining while, also, catering to flaccid length gains.

On a mental level there are also very important reasons for slip sessions. Length and girth are very, very different in their mental approach. Length, being mundane in many way, requires a different type of focus than it's girth counterpart. Since length work is predominately flaccid exercise it require no sexual thought process. It is more reliant on visualization, seeing what we want and concentrating on making that happen. It is much more numerical, counting, resting repeat, so on.

Girth, on the other hands:D, requires a different mental approach. Yes, it does rely on visualization (as any goal does) but their is a sexual component not present in length work. Maintaining an erection, or in some cases a almost erection, takes a sexual thought process. The difficulty here is it is not sexual, it is exercise which makes it an anomaly of sorts. This balance of counting and arousal is a delicate balance that needs practice to master, this is why we hear so much of the guys who can't maintain an erection during girth work or can't lose an erection during length work. When the balance is perfected girth work becomes a breeze.

Understanding these two points makes it evident that separate sessions allows for complete concentration on the different mental processes needed to maximize girth and length routines. Keeping them separate, in essence, will increase the speed of gains.

Lastly, doing all the work at once (girth than length in one session) may lead some men to rushing through the sessions as their concentration is mixed with so many different factors. A clear path to our goals allows for the best possible results.

I know when you started girth(right) DLD that you did multiple sessions, exactly how many sessions daily, and what would you say the average time spent daily soley on jelqing did you put in? Was it like 3 one hour sessions, 4?
or did you do like a 1/2 hour every couple hours? Or was it like an hour a day??

blackice said:

I know when you started girth(right) DLD that you did multiple sessions, exactly how many sessions daily, and what would you say the average time spent daily soley on jelqing did you put in? Was it like 3 one hour sessions, 4?
or did you do like a 1/2 hour every couple hours? Or was it like an hour a day??

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I did it a few ways.

4 Sessions:
AM: Stretch, newbie routine
AM Jelq (600 jelqs)
Lazy Ass Stretch for the remainder of the AM and Afternoon
AM: Stretch, newbie routine
AM Jelq (600 jelqs)

or

AM: Stretch, newbie routine
100 Jelqs every hour
Heating pad in between
I would do 10-12 sessions daily
AM: Stretch, newbie routine

The exercises listed were and can be substituted with others (ie: Slow Squash Jelqs, Uli's, Bends, Blasters, etc.)

Yo, I'm also staying with am/pm girth. U said it came hard, I'm like at month+1/2, figure after like what, 3-4 months the temp. gains will start sticking?