The Penis is a BALLOON not a ROPE

I have read many posts in my time on the impact of girth effecting length and visa-versa. Some men believe training girth may hinder length gains and I want to debate this. In my opinion Length and Girth not only complement each other but a small gain in both directions increase the total size of your penis then if you made the same gain in any single area

I hear people comparing the penis to rope or a rubber band stating that it is easier to stretch a thinner rope or band in comparison to a thicker one. I completely agree with this theory but I feel it is a poor penile comparison. The penis is more like a balloon as it is filled with blood when we get an erection and emptied when we are flaccid.

The reason I debate this is simple you can't fill a rope with liquid so it is impossible to expand the rope through increasing thickness. But you can expand a balloon length and thickness by increasing its load capacity. When you fill a balloon past it’s capacity it not only grows wider but longer too. The penis is very similar to balloon in that when we fill it with blood during an erection it expands outward and upward.

With that said I think it is a bad decision to neglect girth in hopes for better length gains. I have always trained both Length and Girth with as much intensity as the other with very good results. What are your opinions?

Yeah i totally agree with this good theory and makes sense.

Hey, we were chatting about this earlier too! LOL.

I agree. I'm working on girth right now because that is what my current schedule best allows for. Then, when I hit my girth goal I am going back on the attack for more length. I will probably gain a little more girth...most likely in the base because I will be hanging again. I bet Redzulu agrees too with this idea.

DLD,

I asked this once before and never got a response - it's mostly curiosity - do any of the ligs go all the way to the glans or do all ligs terminate at the base of the tunica and in turn the head is attached to the tunica?

It seems like some ligs go all the way to the head.

Well from my extensive jelqing AND stretching, i've had no Pencil Dick effect at all, and I don't think stretching and jelqing counteract each other... or do they ? I'm not to sure on that one.

Originally posted by Al100
DLD,

I asked this once before and never got a response - it's mostly curiosity - do any of the ligs go all the way to the glans or do all ligs terminate at the base of the tunica and in turn the head is attached to the tunica?

It seems like some ligs go all the way to the head.

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I'm pretty sure that at least two ligaments run along the sides pretty much from the base of the penis to almost the very front. I may be wrong though.

Has anyone gained erect length from ulis? if so how much?

I have gained length from Ulies. I couldn't tell you how much exactly. I never kept track of that sort of thing since I stretch a lot too.
But think about it though... of course Ulies would provide length gains, and not just from a bigger glans. You're expanding in all directions.... outwards as well.

I think it is good dld [theory].

You're right DLD, at least to some extend. But IMO it's even more complicated cause the penile chambers are neither robes nor balloons. If anything there are something like balloons but filled not only with blood but with internal structures, similar to a sponge(I think I even read somewhere refering to it as spongy tissue). Which leads to the conclusion that in fully flaccid state you may really compare somehow with a rope but in a at least semi-erect state refer to it as balloon which basically corresponds with your observation of 3dimensional growth(width/depth/length) due to erect exercises.

Does this make any sence?

Originally posted by pole
If anything there are something like balloons but filled not only with blood but with internal structures, similar to a sponge

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I don't think the internal sponge structure has much tensile strength. The limiting factor, especially as far as girth is concerned, is the outer sheath of fiberous skin around the chambers (not the outer outer layer of skin.)

I think if you can stretch the outer sheath with uli's and the like, the inner sponge will expand into the new volume.

Or so it seems to me.

I've seen the theories that say jelqing helps increase the spongy caverns, thus making you bigger. But I doubt that theory. Unless you stretch the outer skin, which is very tough, nothing is going to get bigger except your flaccid size.

So increasing internal tissue will increase flaccid size, but increasing erect size require stretching the outer sheath.

Length is also limited by the outer sheath, and any other ligments -- which I don't remember offhand and will have to go look up.

Originally posted by pole
...but in a at least semi-erect state refer to it as balloon which basically corresponds with your observation of 3dimensional growth(width/depth/length) due to erect exercises.

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bobbdobbs,

just to make sure that you understand that we're on the same track. At least I don't see any contradiction in your and my posts.

I just keep telling myself "there is no penis". Movie buffs might figure that one out. LOL

Originally posted by stillwantmore
I just keep telling myself "there is no penis". Movie buffs might figure that one out. LOL

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LOL! The Matrix! Nice STW!

C YA!

This is the Matrix

:gluedtosc I thought it was the John Wayne Bobit Tv Movie!:blahblah:

Originally posted by pole
bobbdobbs,

just to make sure that you understand that we're on the same track. At least I don't see any contradiction in your and my posts.

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Yeah, thanks for the clarification. I probably didn't read the last part of your sentence the first time.

I agree with DLD's theory as well! So if you have, say: 10 inches of useable ligs, if the tunica is not developed enough(stretched to match those 10 inch ligs), then your not going to see your cock expand to 10 inches no matter what!!!! So really if this could be true, then one needs to implement some intense exercises that target the tunica. I've started really hammering my boy with some intense DLD bends, erect bends(left&right). I've started doing these every night after my main stretching routine. Feedback please!

Girthius

DLD, I think the bag analogy is good, but I'd say the penis is both - a bag & a rope (just as light can be considered a wave & a particle).
The soft tissue of the penis is a bag, whereas the tough ligaments/tendons are more of a rope.
Do you think that's a fair analogy?

I would say that it is true essentially (what DLD says) but consider this:

With girth exercises do the tissues not get stronger with every repair (in a larger state)? I would say so. There for length gains would be harder to get.

Also what if somehow hyperplasia (correct word?) was occurring? You would have more fibers to break down.

The other end of this though is, if the above is true, and you are strengthening the fibers of your penis, does it make enough of a difference to actually slow down your gains?

Lastly I think every routine should have a little jelqing, especially BTB. I would make the distinction between light jelqing and hardcore girth work.