Please respond to these Moregains123.I would really appreciate it.1a.I am about to start hanging and then jelquing,and then use the SS HD.My question here is,if I did SD for the hanging and SS HD,how much of an erection drop would occur,as opposed to doing these SO?b.And related,would I be able to improve the erection angle later on(after maxing out ligs)and doing the stretching at SO positions?2.How long would the time difference be,with regards to making same amount of gains,between the two positions of SD,and SO?What would be an approximate time?3a.Would the ligs be able to be maxed out by doing other positions other than the SD(which is best for ligs),or if the only SO and SU positions were to be utilized,and not the SD,would this mean you would be sacrificing those quick lig gains?b.Or would they eventually still be maxed out as well,just a longer time though?Please respond to these questions.I would be very grateful and happy,for your very wise and useful,experienced knowledge.Thank you.
 
I forgot to ask you something Moregains123.OK,now from your discussion with the static stretcher people,and BIB,you say they say that an erection up to the belly button is more impressive.1.So knowing that,does that mean that if I wanted solely an erection that went up past my belly button,not only would I have to wear the SS HD at SO,or SU, but if I wanted to do hanging(which I want)then for hanging I would have to follow with SO or SU ..am I right?2.Related to this though,did you not do SD hanging with additional SD stretching of the SS HD?How much was your erection angle affected by this?3.And finally,what do you suggest I do with regards to angle usage?I am still confused on what type to use...I mean,I want gains quick,but still would like to have that impressive upward erection,but if that way would take like way more time to achieve similar results then I might sacrifice some erection angle by doing SD for a while,kind of like you did.Any thoughts?Oh and is BIBs erection upward past his belly button..just curious?Anyways,sorry about all the questions.Thank you.
 
1a. It's impossible to know because everyone is different and the intensity and time will vary among different guys. Don't worry about how much: you'll see it slowly happening. Just stop if you don't like it. If you haven't cemented the lig stretch it will retract if you leave it alone.

1b. If you stretch the suspensory lig it will no longer wrap tightly upward around the pubic bone during erection: answer: no.

2. It took me double the time.

3a. The ligs will still be stretched during SO, just not optimally. They attach above the penis so downward stretching affects them the most. However SO stretching will also lengthen them (just not as quickly).

3b. I suppose the ligaments could be stretched way beyond the usefulness of gains. I understand the term "maxing the ligs" to mean maxing the quick gains available.

"they say that an erection up to the belly button is more impressive"

This is an opinion.

1. I never liked SU so I stick with SO. If you can find comfort using SU then do it. The basic idea is: if you stretch downward you will get a longer suspensory ligament which will cause your "exit point" to be lower. This in turn moves your erection away from your BB.

2. I did SD and BTC hanging early on but later decided I didn't want the lowered exit point. (I did gain though.) I never used the SS HD in SD because I find it much more comfortable in SO. It brings tunica fatigue like crazy for me in SO. My angle was changed from early hanging, but I stopped downward hanging.

3. I'm a fan of SOR and SOL for hanging, and SO for HD SS. Using SD and/or BTC is a good way to become a believer. I don't know anything about Bigger's erections.

In the future please add line spaces and word spaces: your text is difficult to read.
 
Thank you so much for the useful information. I have a couple follow up questions,I hope you don't mind.

1.When hanging,how will I know when the lig stretch has been cemented?

2.So the consensus is that anybody who does hanging SD will never be able to go for the BB erection?
3.I am just curious why you don't want the lowered exit point? Any particular reason?

4.Would it be weird if I did hanging SD,and then the SS HD in the SO or SU position...or should the position be the same for both the hanging,and the SS HD when doing a routine?

Thank you so much for your immense help.You are truly an amazing person.I really appreciate it alot.
 
penisbuilder;353251 said:
1. When hanging,how will I know when the lig stretch has been cemented?
When you've reached your goal, simply start cutting back on time and intensity over a period of 4 to 8 weeks just to be sure your new length doesn't retract from your goal.
penisbuilder;353251 said:
2. So the consensus is that anybody who does hanging SD will never be able to go for the BB erection?
You can certainly "go for the BB erection" when hanging SD, but just remember that the lower your exit point the farther away the glans will be from the BB so you would need more tunica stretching.
penisbuilder;353251 said:
3. I am just curious why you don't want the lowered exit point? Any particular reason?
I prefer a "past the BB" erection because I think it makes it look even bigger.
penisbuilder;353251 said:
4. Would it be weird if I did hanging SD,and then the SS HD in the SO or SU position...or should the position be the same for both the hanging,and the SS HD when doing a routine?
You don't have to make them the same but it would speed things up. Obviously when pulling from the glans the weight is transfered through the tunica and through the ligs so everything is getting stress. The angles cause emphasis on certain tissues. If you're going to hang SD I think you should also put the HD SS in the position between SO and SD. I've never liked putting the HD SS in pure SD because I find it more difficult to sit down. This also brings up another issue: sitting and walking around with the HD SS changes the effective angle (so keep that in mind when you select the position).
 
moregains,

What's up, bro!?

I am, so far, only able to stretch for 1.5 hours before the pain deep in me above my penis (stretching SO) is too much to bear.

1. Does this mean I am "maxing out" my workouts?
2. Anything I can do to prolong my time (numbing creams, for example)?
 
First I would never numb nerves.

I don't think you're maxing out, but I can't feel what you're feeling. Why don't you try reducing the tension when the pain sets in? If 1.5 hours is getting you some fatigue you should try riding it at a lower tension.
 
moregains,

I have come up with a solution for the pain I have been feeling: static-wrapping the top of the HDSS base!

I am into my second month using the HDSS at about 20 hours a week. Hair is growing up my shaft like crazy. I AM bigger; I FEEL it and I "just know", even though it is difficult for me to truly tell how much I have gained since 1. I have a fat pad and 2. I didn't really measure before. I have been stretching SO.

Questions:

1. Do you have any �naked people movies� links (anyone?) that show someone who has a "low exit point" and is hung, whether or not they got that way because of Penis Enlargement? If so, may I see?

2. IF I were to stretch between SD and SO, which is the most comfortable for me:
a. Will my erection angle go downwards FOR SURE?
b. Won't the end of my cock when erect, IF my erection angle goes down, go closer to my knees, thereby giving me a more HUNG look when standing up? Look at this link: http://www.tube8.com/gay/monster-cock-masturbation/78032/ IS THIS a guy with a low exit point? I can't tell if he's a bone pressed 8" or 10"!
That's the "look" I'm going for; when My pants come off, THAT'S what I want the girls to see, because when I sit back I can already do a two-hander from the base up and have almost 2 inches on top showing.

Depending on the answers to those questions, I may switch my angle to between so and sd.

Arthur
 
Stevie!!

Be careful, good one!! Be sure the pain is just a burning feeling and not a sharp pain.

That is GREAT news about the hair growing up your shaft. It took me much longer to experience this, but that is a sure sign that you are stretching your skin.

That "heavy" feeling of volume gain is another sure sign of growth. There is more room for the blood to enter your expanding penis. That's when I first "knew" that I was gaining even though the tape measure didn't reveal it.

I have no idea about the exit point stuff. I'm just learning about that myself. I'll get my fuckin' software up so that I can post a pic of my own dick so you can use me as an example for comparison's sake.

Just be careful!

That poor woman he is fucking up the asshole--I assume it is him. He can knock out her vaginal wall with that whopper. Her poop can end up infecting her vagina. Yukkkk.

Goin' aka Horsehung aka LostinSpace

P.S. To all p.e.ers: Don't get carried away when you start to gain. Easy does it. Your dicks will keep growing, believe us. But DO give TIME, time.
 
It's hard to tell Stevie regarding the exit point. I think he's somewhere between 8" and 10"--probably closer to 10". Whether your erection angle drops or not, you should start to hang like the guy in the pic. I agree that the trade-off is probably the eleven o'clock woody. I found that my semi-erect "softies" started to hang like his after a while. As your ligs start to give, you will definitely get the effect you are looking for. An 8" dick hangs about half way to most knees. LMAO

Horsehung

P.S. After a good edging session, mine hangs soft around 9" for a while.
 
stevie7inch;354188 said:
I have come up with a solution for the pain I have been feeling: static-wrapping the top of the HDSS base!
Excellent. I use various pads myself just for the pubic bone. For behind the sack I just move it around from time to time.

stevie7inch;354188 said:
I am into my second month using the HDSS at about 20 hours a week. Hair is growing up my shaft like crazy. I AM bigger; I FEEL it and I "just know", even though it is difficult for me to truly tell how much I have gained since 1. I have a fat pad and 2. I didn't really measure before. I have been stretching SO.
I know this feeling well. Stop and measure and mark the date. Take a photo of the position and angle you measured from. Later it's going to become very irritating to not be able to tell exactly how much. The first time I gained significantly I never measured at all. I figured I'd "just be able to tell". Well that was true, but then I wanted to know how much!

stevie7inch;354188 said:
Questions:
1. Do you have any �naked people movies� links (anyone?) that show someone who has a "low exit point" and is hung, whether or not they got that way because of Penis Enlargement? If so, may I see?
I don't watch �naked people movies�.

stevie7inch;354188 said:
2. IF I were to stretch between SD and SO, which is the most comfortable for me:
a. Will my erection angle go downwards FOR SURE?
When you stretch the suspensory lig it is quite possible that your angle will change but it's a slow process so don't worry about pointing at the floor. That would take years and you would see it coming a long way off.

stevie7inch;354188 said:
b. Won't the end of my cock when erect, IF my erection angle goes down, go closer to my knees, thereby giving me a more HUNG look when standing up? Look at this link: http://www.tube8.com/gay/monster-coc...rbation/78032/ IS THIS a guy with a low exit point? I can't tell if he's a bone pressed 8" or 10"!
He's definitely big and has a very low exit point. That certainly brings it closer to his knees. Are you trying to be a flaccid model?

stevie7inch;354188 said:
That's the "look" I'm going for; when My pants come off, THAT'S what I want the girls to see, because when I sit back I can already do a two-hander from the base up and have almost 2 inches on top showing.
When my pants come off I'm already getting hard or hard: which so I've been told is way hotter than any flaccid. Girls like to know you're excited being with them. It turns them on to see you raring to go.
 
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