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I have made a list of things I have learned over some time about losing fat (not weight, fat) and cutting. Feel free to correct any of it or add anything to the list. Thanks

1.) A post-workout shake should have: Dextrose, MaltoDextrine and Whey

2.) Fats are not a bad thing, but there is a difference between good and bad fats. Essential Fatty Acids should come from: flax seed oil (about 3~4 teaspoons/day), fatty fish, Fish oil, avocado, Salmon, nuts and flex seeds (which you have to grind up)

3.) Keep your fat intake to under 60 grams each day and limit your saturated fat intake. Avoid hydrogenated Oils, high fructose corn syrup, refined carbs (like white bread) and trans fat completely.

4.) On the glycemic index, low glycemic carbs are the best as they will leave you full and less likely to cheat
Low GI = 55 or less
Medium GI = 56 - 69
High GI = 70 or more

5.) Good sources of Protein include:
-tuna
-salmon
-chicken breast
-egg whites
-lean beef
-turkey breast
-95% lean ground beef
-sirloin steak
- filet mignon
-lean minute steak
- Skim milk
-Oats, nuts, etc

Bad sources of protein:
-Ribeye
-Prime Rib

Good sources of Carbohydrates include:
Starchy and complex
-yams
-sweet potato
-potato
-brown rice
-oats
-wheat or whole grains

6.) Drink a 1 – 1.5 gallons of COLD WATER, since your body needs to heat up, thus increasing your metabolism.

7.) Have 6-7 small meals daily each about 2 hours apart.

8.) Right after working out your body is craving protein and carbs, so drink a protein shake with dextrose (can count as one of your meals). The protein should be Whey Protein Isolate, since it is fast absorbing. It is best to mix with water for faster absorption instead of milk (since milk has casein which is digested slower).

9.) 1 hour after your post workout shake have a solid meal.

10.) Cereal should have an overall sugar content of less then 5 mg (like Cheerios and Rice Chex), good source of insoluble fiber 1-2g (so you feel more full and is good for your colon), no high fructose corn syrup, no fat, and carbs around 26-30g

11.) A E/C/Y stack (epehdra, caffine, yohimbine hcl) is better then a ECA stack

12.) Good sources of insoluble Fiber:
-Whole-wheat products
-What oat
-Corn Bran
-Flax seed
-Vegetables such as green beans, cauliflowers, and potato skins
-Fruit Skins and root vegetable skins.

13.) Fruit with an excellent Thermogenic/Carbohydrate Ratio include: Apples, Blueberries, Grapefruit, Peaches, Strawberries vs. Inferior Thermogenic Effect Fruits: Bananas, Dried Fruit, Raisins, etc., Watermelon

14.) you should have planned cheat meals and you should cycle carbs. Because if you stay on a to restrictive diet your metabolism slows. You’re body is a furnace and food is the coal. More food means your metabolism goes up (i.e. furnace heats up) but too much “coal” and it starts to collect. So essentially you need to eat to lose weight.

15.) Do not work out on a empty stomach first thing in the morning. Rather eat a piece of fruit. Since a piece of fruit reglycongenates your liver which helps in fat utilization. here is a link about it: http://www.parentsurf.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_22/ai_n6170379

16.) Adaptation is your worst enemy when you are cutting as such you should cycle everything including conditioning, lifting, and food by varying intensity, duration, and quantity.

17.) Do not be insanely restrictive, if you are the odds are you will binge and gain the weight right back. the idea is to change your life style.

18.) If you are going to use fat burners do not use them in the begginning. Use them after you have plateaued or stopped losing weight ...this way you got something up yoursleeve for later.

19.) Stay away from sweets and sugars including soda.

20.) Fructose in high amounts can hinder fat and does not get transformed to glycogen, thus doesn’t affect the muscles.

21.) You will want to maintain a high protein intake at a level of one gram per pound of lean body mass. Your carb intake should be reduced and come from complex sources.

22.) When cycling your carbs and calories you should be either +/- 900 from your BathmateR. Adult Male: BathmateR = 66 + (6.3 x body weight in lbs.) + (12.9 x height in inches) - (6.8 x age in years). So M-F you get 2,000cals then on sat-sun around 2,900 no more though.

23.) 1g of protein= 4 cals, 1 g of carbs= 4 cals, 1g fat= 9 cals, 1g alcohol= 7 cals.

24.) most people can only lose 1lb-1.5 lbs a week without losing muscle.

25.) In the beginning, you should keep a diet log of what you eat so you can see where you need to improve

26.) Workout wise, you should have reps from 6-10 with about 30 to 1min rest between sets.
 
This is a great guide for all people serious about their diet and rule of thumb for losing weight. Protien is the best for overall losing weight b/c it is the hardest to digest, so your motabolisim has to work that much more causing the burning of calories.
major thing for people looking to cut those extra lbs. of fat around their midsection is cutting carbs, sugars, and foods high in sodium.
Planning is essenial to success and like im2manly says, keeping a log is very beneficial to view and further calculate a route that will get you closer to goals set, sorta like Penis EnlargementLMAO
also, cardio and dreaded situps, the fat is not going to go any where unless you literally burn it off.:)
 
im2manly said:
I have made a list of things I have learned over some time about losing fat (not weight, fat) and cutting. Feel free to correct any of it or add anything to the list. Thanks

1.) A post-workout shake should have: Dextrose, MaltoDextrine and Whey

actually no. simple carbs should not be used cept during cheat days..simple carbs offer no advantage over complex carbs unless you are doing an activity shortly after weight training


Carbohydrate nutrition before, during, and after exercise
.


Costill DL.

The role of dietary carbohydrates (CHO) in the resynthesis of muscle and liver glycogen after prolonged, exhaustive exercise has been clearly demonstrated. The mechanisms responsible for optimal glycogen storage are linked to the activation of glycogen synthetase by depletion of glycogen and the subsequent intake of CHO. Although diets rich in CHO may increase the muscle glycogen stores and enhance endurance exercise performance when consumed in the days before the activity, they also increase the rate of CHO oxidation and the use of muscle glycogen. When consumed in the last hour before exercise, the insulin stimulated-uptake of glucose from blood often results in hypoglycemia, greater dependence on muscle glycogen, and an earlier onset of exhaustion than when no CHO is fed. Ingesting CHO during exercise appears to be of minimal value to performance except in events lasting 2 h or longer. The form of CHO (i.e., glucose, fructose, sucrose) ingested may produce different blood glucose and insulin responses, but the rate of muscle glycogen resynthesis is about the same regardless of the structure.


And Im sure you know that working out for 2 hours is catabolic and does not produce more results


2.) Fats are not a bad thing, but there is a difference between good and bad fats. Essential Fatty Acids should come from: flax seed oil (about 3~4 teaspoons/day), fatty fish, Fish oil, avocado, Salmon, nuts and flex seeds (which you have to grind up)

3.) Keep your fat intake to under 60 grams each day and limit your saturated fat intake. Avoid hydrogenated Oils, high fructose corn syrup, refined carbs (like white bread) and trans fat completely.


out of the 60 grams 20grams should come from sat fats others from poly-mono fats since low sat fat has been linked to low testosterone

4.) On the glycemic index, low glycemic carbs are the best as they will leave you full and less likely to cheat
Low GI = 55 or less
Medium GI = 56 - 69
High GI = 70 or more

5.) Good sources of Protein include:
-tuna
-salmon
-chicken breast
-egg whites
-lean beef
-turkey breast
-95% lean ground beef
-sirloin steak
- filet mignon
-lean minute steak
- Skim milk
-Oats, nuts, etc (these are not complete proteins they should be combined with a complete source maybe whey conc or isolate

Bad sources of protein:
-Ribeye
-Prime Rib

Good sources of Carbohydrates include:
Starchy and complex
-yams
-sweet potato
-potato
-brown rice
-oats (slow cooking/old fashioned)-wheat or whole grains

6.) Drink a 1 – 1.5 gallons of COLD WATER, since your body needs to heat up, thus increasing your metabolism.

7.) Have 6-7 small meals daily each about 2 hours apart.

2 hours is too frequent 3 is more ideal as 2 hours will not be enough to completely digest some foods so u will be piling food over food

8.) Right after working out your body is craving protein and carbs, so drink a protein shake with dextrose (can count as one of your meals). The protein should be Whey Protein Isolate, since it is fast absorbing. It is best to mix with water for faster absorption instead of milk (since milk has casein which is digested slower).



9.) 1 hour after your post workout shake have a solid meal.

10.) Cereal should have an overall sugar content of less then 5 mg (like Cheerios and Rice Chex), good source of insoluble fiber 1-2g (so you feel more full and is good for your colon), no high fructose corn syrup, no fat, and carbs around 26-30g

11.) A E/C/Y stack (epehdra, caffine, yohimbine hcl) is better then a ECA stack

you might wanna add saw palmetto extract since some people find it a bit harder with urination and some report a weakended prostate or smth if u got high BP and u take this ur FUCKED LMAO

12.) Good sources of insoluble Fiber:
-Whole-wheat products
-What oat
-Corn Bran
-Flax seed
-Vegetables such as green beans, cauliflowers, and potato skins
-Fruit Skins and root vegetable skins.

13.) Fruit with an excellent Thermogenic/Carbohydrate Ratio include: Apples, Blueberries, Grapefruit, Peaches, Strawberries vs. Inferior Thermogenic Effect Fruits: Bananas, Dried Fruit, Raisins, etc., Watermelon

14.) you should have planned cheat meals and you should cycle carbs. Because if you stay on a to restrictive diet your metabolism slows. You’re body is a furnace and food is the coal. More food means your metabolism goes up (i.e. furnace heats up) but too much “coal” and it starts to collect. So essentially you need to eat to lose weight.

15.) Do not work out on a empty stomach first thing in the morning. Rather eat a piece of fruit. Since a piece of fruit reglycongenates your liver which helps in fat utilization Add some whey too since it is absorbed quickly. here is a link about it: http://www.parentsurf.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_7_22/ai_n6170379

16.) Adaptation is your worst enemy when you are cutting as such you should cycle everything including conditioning, lifting, and food by varying intensity, duration, and quantity.

17.) Do not be insanely restrictive, if you are the odds are you will binge and gain the weight right back. the idea is to change your life style.

18.) If you are going to use fat burners do not use them in the begginning. Use them after you have plateaued or stopped losing weight ...this way you got something up yoursleeve for later.

19.) Stay away from sweets and sugars including soda. Diet soda is fine

20.) Fructose in high amounts can hinder fat and does not get transformed to glycogen, thus doesn’t affect the muscles.

21.) You will want to maintain a high protein intake at a level of one gram per pound of lean body mass. Your carb intake should be reduced and come from complex sources.

22.) When cycling your carbs and calories you should be either +/- 900 from your BathmateR. Adult Male: BathmateR = 66 + (6.3 x body weight in lbs.) + (12.9 x height in inches) - (6.8 x age in years). So M-F you get 2,000cals then on sat-sun around 2,900 no more though.

23.) 1g of protein= 4 cals, 1 g of carbs= 4 cals, 1g fat= 9 cals, 1g alcohol= 7 cals.

24.) most people can only lose 1lb-1.5 lbs a week without losing muscle. Unless you are on steroids you will lose some muscle while cutting some people maintain or even add some small amounts but most ppl will not
25.) In the beginning, you should keep a diet log of what you eat so you can see where you need to improve

26.) Workout wise, you should have reps from 6-10 with about 30 to 1min rest between sets.


V.good advice tho :)
 
1.) your body needs to eat carbs after you get done lifting/working out....ask anyone who has some experience lifting. And there is a difference in simple and complex carbs. Complex carbs will keep you less hunger...very similiar to insoluble fiber. point of the dextrose is to keep it from being catabolic, lol this is like golden rule 1. And how are 2 hours of working out catabolic? I work out anywehre from 2.5-3 hours and if anything ive gained muscle and i am still losing weight. Maybe 2 hours of non stop workingout/cardio would be.

2.) I didnt mean to just eat the oats and nuts by themselves as a dinner. They are good for a snack and pwo.

3.) the point is to make sure that all of your food is NOT fully digested, you dont want to have hunge panes, and you what to have something for reserve when you workout.

4.) Diet Soda is not fine, esspecially if your on a thermo that already has tons of caffine. Diet soda gets stored as fat plan and simple.

5.) the rule of thumb is that if you lift heavy and hard and have your diet in check and lose a pound a week...you should keep a large amount of you muscle.
 
im2manly said:
1.) your body needs to eat carbs after you get done lifting/working out....ask anyone who has some experience lifting. And there is a difference in simple and complex carbs. Complex carbs will keep you less hunger...very similiar to insoluble fiber. point of the dextrose is to keep it from being catabolic, lol this is like golden rule 1. And how are 2 hours of working out catabolic? I work out anywehre from 2.5-3 hours and if anything ive gained muscle and i am still losing weight. Maybe 2 hours of non stop workingout/cardio would be.

I just posted proof that High GI carbs do not have an advantage over slow GI carbs do u have proof from any medical journal?? I admit that I have tried High Gi a dex/whey shake but I stuck with the oats whey shake and splenda cuz the dex does not offer any advantages and the oats are healthier...
2.) I didnt mean to just eat the oats and nuts by themselves as a dinner. They are good for a snack and pwo.

Nuts are NOT good PWO if u are ingesting dextrose ur insulin will be elevated fats in the blood stream while insulin is spiked MEANS FAT STORAGE. which is smth Im sure no1 wants but as snacks yes they are good

3.) the point is to make sure that all of your food is NOT fully digested, you dont want to have hunge panes, and you what to have something for reserve when you workout.

3 hours is fine less and u get stuffed and feel like shit atleast I did but if 2 hours works for you stick to it
4.) Diet Soda is not fine, esspecially if your on a thermo that already has tons of caffine. Diet soda gets stored as fat plan and simple.

Diet Caffeine Free Pepsi (8 fl. oz)
Contains: Carbonated water, caramel color, aspartame, phosphoric acid, potassium benzoate (preserves freshness), citric acid and natural flavors

Calories 0
Total Fat (g) 0
Sodium (mg) 25
Potassium (mg) 20
Total Carbohydrates (g) 0
Sugars (g) 0
Protein (g) 0
Caffeine (mg) 0


can you plz tell me where the calories are in DIET Penis EnlargementPSI??? what gets stored as fat??? the sodium??
:s

5.) the rule of thumb is that if you lift heavy and hard and have your diet in check and lose a pound a week...you should keep a large amount of you muscle

Yes you will not lose a large amount just a couple of pounds maybe none if ur diet is spot on and sleepin rite etc....
.

Some1 with experience??? Hows this for experience??? this is the only pic I have(taken 4 months ago approx) since I moved and didnt get my HD with me. this was Natural btw nothing Used cept vitamins and 1/2 lb whey(no cash hehe LMAO )

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as i said someone with experience...lol was that supposed to impress me? Come on man, dextrose is very important pwo. I appreciate the response anyway.
 
im2manly said:
as i said someone with experience...lol was that supposed to impress me? Come on man, dextrose is very important pwo. I appreciate the response anyway.

dude did you try oats and whey pwo?? I have and I have also tried dex+whey they both work! Im not saying dex doesnt work...IT DOES! but oats +whey work just as fine without causing an unneeded insulin spike try it for a month or 2 then decide...if u still "feel" better with dex stick to it you prob wont face any blood sugar probs as long as the rest of ur diet is clean but I hate junk and slin spikes for no reason so yeah..... LMAO


Still that is gr8 info most ppl dont know half of that stuff u posted no wonder 70% are overweight :s

neway good luck and try the Oats+whey LMAO
 
my bad didnt see your remarks in red

1.) Are you kidding me? you think there is not a big difference between high and low gi carbs? Bro one is gone a fill u up and have less cals....heres a site glymericindex.com i aint gonna go looking for a "medical journal" lol thats pretty funny. I guess all proteins are the same right? Dex gets absorbed faster then oats, which is what you want when you have pwo shake. oats are very good tho.

2.) Nuts work fine, its not ideal pwo...dex is better, but oats will be fine. they do not elevate it enough, and they help release stored fat already in your body.

3.) about diet soda: read up:

Read a bit about aspartame - the staple of diet soda:


http://www.rense.com/health3/dcoke.htm
"The poison in Diet Coke is aspartame..."



http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfood/aspartame.html
Aspartame itself doesn’t have any calories, but basically, one of its ingredients, the amino acid phenylalanine, blocks production of serotonin, a nerve chemical that, among other activities, controls food cravings. As you might well imagine, a shortage of serotonin will make your brain and body scream for the foods that create more of this brain chemical—and those are the high-calorie, carbohydrate-rich snacks that can sabotage a dieter. Obviously, the more aspartame one ingests, the more heightened the effects. Simply put, aspartame appears to muddle the brain chemistry.


Diet soda, diet products are about the worst thing you can eat on a diet! They are packed with chemicals making you addicted to food. I don't recommend any "DIET" products anymore due to the new studies and information coming out over the last 2 years.
 
im2manly said:
my bad didnt see your remarks in red

1.) Are you kidding me? you think there is not a big difference between high and low gi carbs? Bro one is gone a fill u up and have less cals....heres a site glymericindex.com i aint gonna go looking for a "medical journal" lol thats pretty funny. I guess all proteins are the same right? Dex gets absorbed faster then oats, which is what you want when you have pwo shake. oats are very good tho.

STOP putting words in my mouth LMAO

Im saying they dont matter post workout wether high or low they both get the job done but Low Gi and low glycemic load is healthier

all proteins are the same?? when did I say that???:( they are deff not


2.) Nuts work fine, its not ideal pwo...dex is better, but oats will be fine. they do not elevate it enough, and they help release stored fat already in your body.

nuts have very lil carbs carbs and pro are needed pwo not pro/fat oats are gr8 pwo along with sweet potatoes and any other complex carb with the whey
3.) about diet soda: read up:

Read a bit about aspartame - the staple of diet soda:


http://www.rense.com/health3/dcoke.htm
"The poison in Diet Coke is aspartame..."



http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfood/aspartame.html
Aspartame itself doesn’t have any calories, but basically, one of its ingredients, the amino acid phenylalanine, blocks production of serotonin, a nerve chemical that, among other activities, controls food cravings. As you might well imagine, a shortage of serotonin will make your brain and body scream for the foods that create more of this brain chemical—and those are the high-calorie, carbohydrate-rich snacks that can sabotage a dieter. Obviously, the more aspartame one ingests, the more heightened the effects. Simply put, aspartame appears to muddle the brain chemistry.


Diet soda, diet products are about the worst thing you can eat on a diet! They are packed with chemicals making you addicted to food. I don't recommend any "DIET" products anymore due to the new studies and information coming out over the last 2 years.

Bro, most diet products are now sweetned with splenda which is safe but aspartame is also 100% safe Here is proof:
1: J Am Diet Assoc. 1983 Aug;83(2):142-6.


Can aspartame meet our expectations?

Horwitz DL, Bauer-Nehrling JK.

Aspartame is a dipeptide containing aspartic acid and phenylalanine methyl ester. It is a nutritive sweetener with a caloric value equivalent to that of other proteins and with sweetness approximately 180 times that of sucrose. Thus, for equivalent sweetening power, it contributes only 0.5% of the kilocalories of sugar. Numerous studies have shown no potential toxicity of amounts of aspartame likely to be ingested, or even of abuse doses. Although aspartame cannot fully replace sugar, it appears to be a safe and acceptable sweetener for those who must, or desire to, reduce their intake of sucrose.

1: Med Pregl. 2003;56 Suppl 1:27-9.


[Controversies with aspartame]

[Article in Serbian]

Jankovic SM.

slobnera@eunet.yu

INTRODUCTION: Artificial sweeteners are nowadays inevitable food additives, since they provide necessary food diversity to people suffering from diabetes. Aspartame is the most frequently used artificial sweetener ever and its safety profile is much better than that of saccharin or cyclamate. It received marketing approval in 1973, but only 3 months later aspartame was withdrawn because of allegations based on improperly designed experimental studies de****g with its carcinogen effects on rodent brain. However, extensive studies using the same model did not confirm such suspicions, and aspartame received a second marketing approval. EPIDEMIOLOGICAL STUDIES: Almost two decades later an epidemiological study found a relationship between aspartame and an increased frequency of brain tumors in humans. However, this study included a short time span of observation, and it did not estimate actual intake of aspartame, which led to loss of validity. Later on no epidemiological studies found correlation between aspartame use and incidence of brain tumors in humans. Up to now the only safety concern about aspartame, which received valid scientific proofs, is pro-seizure action of its excessive intake. In patients with epilepsy, excessive intake of aspartame can decrease the threshold for seizures or prolong them once they appear. However, if the intake is not above the recommended level of 40 mg/kg b.w./day, aspartame is well tolerated even in this subpopulation. CONCLUSION: Based on detailed analysis of published studies on safety of aspartame, it should not be restricted, but used in recommended amounts.

1: J Neuropathol Exp Neurol. 1996 Nov;55(11):1115-23.

Comment in:
J Neuropathol Exp Neurol. 1996 Dec;55(12):1280.
J Neuropathol Exp Neurol. 1997 Jan;56(1):105-6.
J Neuropathol Exp Neurol. 1997 Jan;56(1):107-9.

Increasing brain tumor rates: is there a link to aspartame?

Olney JW, Farber NB, Spitznagel E, Robins LN.

Department of Psychiatry, Washington University Medical School, St. Louis, MO 63110, USA.

In the past two decades brain tumor rates have risen in several industrialized countries, including the United States. During this time, brain tumor data have been gathered by the National Cancer Institute from catcHydromaxent areas representing 10% of the United States population. In the present study, we analyzed these data from 1975 to 1992 and found that the brain tumor increases in the United States occurred in two distinct phases, an early modest increase that may primarily reflect improved diagnostic technology, and a more recent sustained increase in the incidence and shift toward greater malignancy that must be explained by some other factor(s). Compared to other environmental factors putatively linked to brain tumors, the artificial sweetener aspartame is a promising candidate to explain the recent increase in incidence and degree of malignancy of brain tumors. Evidence potentially implicating aspartame includes an early animal study reve****g an exceedingly high incidence of brain tumors in aspartame-fed rats compared to no brain tumors in concurrent controls, the recent finding that the aspartame molecule has mutagenic potential, and the close temporal association (aspartame was introduced into US food and beverage markets several years prior to the sharp increase in brain tumor incidence and malignancy). We conclude that there is need for reassessing the carcinogenic potential of aspartame

: Regul Toxicol Pharmacol. 2002 Apr;35(2 Pt 2):S1-93. Related Articles, Links


Aspartame: review of safety.

Butchko HH, Stargel WW, Comer CP, Mayhew DA, Benninger C, Blackburn GL, de Sonneville LM, Geha RS, Hertelendy Z, Koestner A, Leon AS, Liepa GU, McMartin KE, Mendenhall CL, Munro IC, Novotny EJ, Renwick AG, Schiffman SS, Schomer DL, Shaywitz BA, Spiers PA, Tephly TR, Thomas JA, Trefz FK.

Medical and Scientific Affairs, The NutraSweet Company, Mt Prospect, Illinois 60056, USA. harriett.h.butchko@nutrasweet.com

Over 20 years have elapsed since aspartame was approved by regulatory agencies as a sweetener and flavor enhancer. The safety of aspartame and its metabolic constituents was established through extensive toxicology studies in laboratory animals, using much greater doses than people could possibly consume. Its safety was further confirmed through studies in several human subpopulations, including healthy infants, children, adolescents, and adults; obese individuals; diabetics; lactating women; and individuals heterozygous (PKUH) for the genetic disease phenylketonuria (PKU) who have a decreased ability to metabolize the essential amino acid, phenylalanine. Several scientific issues continued to be raised after approval, largely as a concern for theoretical toxicity from its metabolic components--the amino acids, aspartate and phenylalanine, and methanol--even though dietary exposure to these components is much greater than from aspartame. Nonetheless, additional research, including evaluations of possible associations between aspartame and headaches, seizures, behavior, cognition, and mood as well as allergic-type reactions and use by potentially sensitive subpopulations, has continued after approval. These findings are reviewed here. The safety testing of aspartame has gone well beyond that required to evaluate the safety of a food additive. When all the research on aspartame, including evaluations in both the premarketing and postmarketing periods, is examined as a whole, it is clear that aspartame is safe, and there are no unresolved questions regarding its safety under conditions of intended use.


Enough proof???????????????? I will not state anything unless I am 100% sure of it and can back it up with proof ;)
 
Note that the aspartame has no adverse effects while the regular soda which contains simple sugar can cause

-headaches

-increased hunger

-Type 2 diabetes which can cause impotence

-fat gain

-insulin resistance

-promote free radicals

and much more....still drinkin regular soda???LMAO
 
check reply #9 the 1st quoted passage I replied but didnt highlight or bold it
 
dude i got that info from a diet and fitness board, diet products are usually not good at all like the diet foods and all of those they are usually high in sodium man. Diet soda is bad, and you are just flat out wrong to thinks its fine. But if you works for you then lucky you.
 
by the way did you even read the links about aspartme causing hunger and other things contributed to fat increase?
 
im2manly said:
dude i got that info from a diet and fitness board, diet products are usually not good at all like the diet foods and all of those they are usually high in sodium man. Diet soda is bad, and you are just flat out wrong to thinks its fine. But if you works for you then lucky you.

alot of diet products which claim that they are healtheir and have less fat compensate with more sugar which is even worse but stuff like sugar free maple syrup, caffiene free diet coke, sugar free jello, etc.. are more than fine the only thing that concerns me is the acid in carbonated beverages they cause the enamel of the teeth to be eaten My dentist said if u leave a tooth in a bottle of diet pepsi it will desolve weird shit ?:( I dont usually drink soda but If I do I make sure I rinse with mouth wash rite away
 
im2manly said:
by the way did you even read the links about aspartme causing hunger and other things contributed to fat increase?

yup I have, some people do notice increased hunger cuz its like a tease..the taste without the fullness..but for me I usually drink soo much so fast so I just fill up rite away lol

about the fat increase I really doubt it I havent noticed any fat gain from it I mean it has no calories and how much are you gonna drink neway 4-6 cans a day?? Enjoy:)

most diet drinks in the US are sweetned with Splenda now which is made from sugar but is not digested so it has no calories
 
Postworkout shake when cutting doesn't need to have any carbs in it,i use unsweetened cranberry juice in whey postworkout as a form of simple carbs.

10g of L glutamine is a better choice than fruit if doing early cardio.

Totally disagree with you on the diet soda,its a godsend when cutting its also included in the diet plan i had made for me by a guy in the uk who makes a living designing diet plans for athletes and bbs.
 
prince Albert said:
Postworkout shake when cutting doesn't need to have any carbs in it,i use unsweetened cranberry juice in whey postworkout as a form of simple carbs.

10g of L glutamine is a better choice than fruit if doing early cardio.

Totally disagree with you on the diet soda,its a godsend when cutting its also included in the diet plan i had made for me by a guy in the uk who makes a living designing diet plans for athletes and bbs.

Altho alot of people use glutamine pre *empty stomach cardio in the mornin* it will not help nething it will be broken down and used for energy via glycolgensis(sp?) if the empty stomach cardio is done with an intensity of 60-70% of MHR there should be no issue with catabolism as long as the other 23 hrs of the day you eat, sleep well and dont overtrain
 
Diet soda is the only soda I ever drink, but I don't drink much of it. I cut my protein intake way down, and I'm at my heaviest,183lbs. I used to get 150-160 gms a day, but I was reading that a pound of muscle only has about 15 gms in it, and some other stuff about how you don't need so much, so now I take in about 100 -120 a day. I keep everything else reasonable, and I maintain about 6 or 7% bodyfat. BUT, my genetics are above average, or I would have to be a bit more strict.
When I was low-carbin' it to cut up a little, I ate at least 150, usually more grams of protein, a day, and 50, no more than 65 grams of carbs. That sucked, but I lost what little fat I had. I never cut carbs that low for more than two weeks at a time, though. Anyway, that was an excellent list. As mentioned, most people don't have a clue. People are always asking me if I work out every single day, because more is better, right?:s Never fails to amaze me how uninformed people are.
 
DWTS00 said:
Altho alot of people use glutamine pre *empty stomach cardio in the mornin* it will not help nething it will be broken down and used for energy via glycolgensis(sp?) if the empty stomach cardio is done with an intensity of 60-70% of MHR there should be no issue with catabolism as long as the other 23 hrs of the day you eat, sleep well and dont overtrain

Do you mean glycolysis, or gluconeogenesis?
 
prince Albert said:
Postworkout shake when cutting doesn't need to have any carbs in it,i use unsweetened cranberry juice in whey postworkout as a form of simple carbs.

10g of L glutamine is a better choice than fruit if doing early cardio.

Totally disagree with you on the diet soda,its a godsend when cutting its also included in the diet plan i had made for me by a guy in the uk who makes a living designing diet plans for athletes and bbs.

a pwo shake should always have carbs in it, theres is a slim window when your body is craving carbs and if it doesnt have a carb source it tends to attack your muscles. Which in turn is also a problem with low carb diets, they tend to cause a glycogen deficency in the body, causing catabolism. A big reason people lose so much muscle when cutting is because they dont have a carb source. I havent really looked up on L glutamine, thanks for the possible advice since I will be researching it, but I was told by a nutritionist that fruit is important (in small quantities mind you, since to much fructose is bad) because of its fiber content, carb content, low cals, and its ability to reglycongenate the liver helping in freeing up fat. You have a great understanding of human physiology, and I have already discussed diet soda earlier in this thread, but if you honestly feel its good for you then go for it. Aspartme is the "devil" in diet soda, and carbonated beverages are usually not a good choice. But I have provided a link saying why its bad, so its up to you.
 
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