Pot is my cure for hangovers, period. The night before the Nintendo Wii came out my roommates and I had our girlfriends/fuck buddies over for a little Mad Dogg 20/20 hands. I had just started hooking up with this really chill pothead girl and the sex was AMAZING (stoned sex always is). I got so drunk that I puked in the refridgerator at Wawa and had to be dragged out before I got arrested. She didnt even start her second forty and was extremely horny so tried to get me up so that we could get it on, but for the first and only time in my life I couldn't get it up, mostly because I was so drunk I barely noticed that she was sucking my dick.

Anyway, the next day I woke up sleeping in my back yard with no pants and lipstick all over my cock. I puked 4 or 5 times within the first hour, down to the point where I would just gag and a little stomach bile would come up. My whole body was wrecked. Anyway, after I stopped puking for a while and resigned myself to the fact that I had ruined any chances of ever seeing the sexy lady of my dreams again, she showed up with a quarter of AK and her bong. I took one big hit and coughed so hard that I puked again. But then it was on, I was so high that I passed out for an hour while we were watching The Hills Have Eyes. I woke from this to find that she had rolled two blunts, we took those to the face with my roommates and basically just layed around all day. My one roommate who had to quit for a while to get his job was layed up all day puking and feeling horrible, and I usually get worse hang overs than him, so I hesitate to think what it would have been like without my precious lady MJ. Later that night my FB suggested we go to WalMart and get the Wii since everyone was so out of it from the night before. Why do I tell you all these extraneous details? Because they reveal hidden secrets, want to be with a girl who is drama-lite (NONE of them are drama free, you are blinded by love or pussy if you think so) and will enjoy sitting around and playing video games and then having sex? Go out with a girl that smokes, just don't be an idiot and have sex with her friend because she is out of town and you are horny, because then you'll regret every time you have to masturbate.

PS - totally unrelated, ithiel, your av is depressing. I miss AI so much in Philly that it is ridiculous. Unfortunately I am probably one of three white people in Philadelphia that was always a fan of AI, the rest of the idiots drove him out of town. Kind of sad to get rid of a guy that kept us in or at least in contention for the playoffs nearly every year he played. Number 3 will be missed. Damnit I get sentimental when I am high.
 
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Other than Paranoia I've never had a "bad" trip. But I choose not to do it any more. As for any negative Penis Enlargement effects I see none other than the fact that I got a fat pad from getting the munchies so dam bad. It's amazing how you can almost choke to death swallowing peanut butter with cotton mouth and keep eating it.
 
For some reason I don't get the munchies as a side effect from cannabis. Sure, when I get hungry naturally when I'm high, it's just that much more intense, but I've never just been hungry as a result of being high. Anyone else never get the munchies?
 
10inchadvantage;280721 said:
For some reason I don't get the munchies as a side effect from cannabis. Sure, when I get hungry naturally when I'm high, it's just that much more intense, but I've never just been hungry as a result of being high. Anyone else never get the munchies?

Yeah me, when I used to be completely wasted the last thing on my mind was trying to eat something.
 
I don't always get the munchies, but when I do it hits hard. I remember a couple years ago my mom went to the store and when she woke up in the morning I had ate my way through $50 worth of groceries. lol
 
BillyMan;280695 said:
It's amazing how you can almost choke to death swallowing peanut butter with cotton mouth and keep eating it.

That's so true it's not even funny. The munchies led me to a solid 25lb. weight gain sophomore year of college.
 
Baazbold;280763 said:
That's so true it's not even funny. The munchies led me to a solid 25lb. weight gain sophomore year of college.

Damn dude, just run 3 miles a day, it'll keep it off. Takes about 30-40 minutes of effort for a nice body.
 
Oh, I know man. I wrestled for 6 years, so weight loss is nothing new to me. It was just that I had just started to smoke pot more than once every blue moon, and having a dining hall start serving food at 4:40 (20 minutes after 4:20, right when those munchies set it) wasn't helpful. At my high point I got up to 190, I lost 20 pounds between that May and the next August from good solid gym time (and long sleaves). To get back into six pack shape I need to drop another 10 at least, but its been slow going, I can stay in reasonable shape by not running much (astHydromaxa and knee surgery have hindered me) but to get down lower I need to start hitting it up again. Thankfully I hit the gym pretty well a few weeks ago and since have dropped 5 lbs while building muscle.

Pot fits into this as my chill out afterwards, I go to the gym, put my time in, and then go home and relax with a nice bit of good bud. I really want to get a vaporizer though, while I like blunts, they just aren't great for your lungs, and plus those volcano vap's stone the crap out of you.
 
Baazbold;280919 said:
Oh, I know man. I wrestled for 6 years, so weight loss is nothing new to me. It was just that I had just started to smoke pot more than once every blue moon, and having a dining hall start serving food at 4:40 (20 minutes after 4:20, right when those munchies set it) wasn't helpful. At my high point I got up to 190, I lost 20 pounds between that May and the next August from good solid gym time (and long sleaves). To get back into six pack shape I need to drop another 10 at least, but its been slow going, I can stay in reasonable shape by not running much (astHydromaxa and knee surgery have hindered me) but to get down lower I need to start hitting it up again. Thankfully I hit the gym pretty well a few weeks ago and since have dropped 5 lbs while building muscle.

Pot fits into this as my chill out afterwards, I go to the gym, put my time in, and then go home and relax with a nice bit of good bud. I really want to get a vaporizer though, while I like blunts, they just aren't great for your lungs, and plus those volcano vap's stone the crap out of you.

Save the $500+ from the volcano and get a lbs or more of some good outdoor sinsemilla, or an ounce of some crazy indoor. Why not get a vapezilla for less than $200 on ebay, when it does the exact same thing? Volcanoes are over-rated. I've only been high on a vape once, was a very different high. Are you a tobacco smoker? Generally blunt smokers are tobacco smokers. I think it ruins the flavor of the weed so I just smoke with rice or hemp papers.
 
I smoked out of a vaporizer once. It was the highest I have ever been. Of course, it might have been because it was the only time I was face to face with the person who grew it and it hadn't gone through 3 other people who keifed the fuck out of it before reaching me.
 
BillyMan;280948 said:
I smoked out of a vaporizer once. It was the highest I have ever been. Of course, it might have been because it was the only time I was face to face with the person who grew it and it hadn't gone through 3 other people who keifed the fuck out of it before reaching me.

Yeah I've had grower buds right to me and it was the BEST weed I have ever smoked in my life. I need to find a steady grower around here. Sweet Jesus that stuff was out of this world! I'd have like Out of Body Experiences while being awake, it was shoot me into another world for a brief time!

Heh, I remember not smoking for three weeks for finals. After finals I took one normal hit of it and was BLAZED. It is screwed up that dealers will kief chronic weed :(
 
10inchadvantage;281304 said:
Yeah I've had grower buds right to me and it was the BEST weed I have ever smoked in my life. I need to find a steady grower around here. Sweet Jesus that stuff was out of this world! I'd have like Out of Body Experiences while being awake, it was shoot me into another world for a brief time!

Heh, I remember not smoking for three weeks for finals. After finals I took one normal hit of it and was BLAZED. It is screwed up that dealers will kief chronic weed :(


Can a nigga get a sack? Damn, send an O my way!
 
Just to get some netherlands/amsterdam input up in here.
Don`t try to smoke more then once a week, or it will def. fuck up your bodily systems.
Also when you do smoke that 1 time a week, dont just smoke a little, but smoke a lot.
Get as high as one can be.

p.s. go on vacation to the netherlands and ask for the best " Haze " in Amsterdam.
 
D&B;281360 said:
Just to get some netherlands/amsterdam input up in here.
Don`t try to smoke more then once a week, or it will def. fuck up your bodily systems.
Also when you do smoke that 1 time a week, dont just smoke a little, but smoke a lot.
Get as high as one can be.

p.s. go on vacation to the netherlands and ask for the best " Haze " in Amsterdam.


I'm like Method Man, I smoke "all the time" I love weed, it allows me to create exercises for Penis Enlargement, produce beats for hip hop that "big" rappers actually use, and be a Penis EnlargementACEFUL person.

I would give up food before I would give up weed and if I could not smoke weed daily I don't thing MOS would be what it is.
 
Holy shit, thats exactly how I am. If I dont smoke and do Penis Enlargement, I just kind of go through the motions, but when I'm high, I think about all the inner workings of what I am doing and how to make it better. Otherwise, I'm just sort of tugging on my dick. I could Penis Enlargement without it, but I don't think that I could be this into it without a little pot.

or a lot of pot.
 
Baazbold;281372 said:
Holy shit, thats exactly how I am. If I dont smoke and do Penis Enlargement, I just kind of go through the motions, but when I'm high, I think about all the inner workings of what I am doing and how to make it better. Otherwise, I'm just sort of tugging on my dick. I could Penis Enlargement without it, but I don't think that I could be this into it without a little pot.

or a lot of pot.

Weed will bring us to a level of existence that is unattainable without it's influence. When we feel this influence we are able to produce art, literature, music or any other academic or artistic study that is far superior to the self we know as a un-influenced human being. I understand that many may believe that weed is a "gateway drug" meaning, a drug that is the beginning of an addiction that ends with hard drugs (heroin, cocaine) and death, jail or mental institution.

Understanding the full benefits of Marijuana requires a mind able to ignore the paranoia of hallucinations, see the benefit of real vision, rationally accept thoughts and putting into production the parts that are truly real. This is a tall order and making these things happen, positively, through human control, while high, requires a very strong, experienced, humble and open mind. Most men will experience the complete paranoia of weed or the unintelligible laughter of it's effects but few will be able to comprehend the reality of it's massive potency and the power it allows it's participants.

Weed is a herb that is for those who can tolerate it's influence. Some may be allergic to it and they should stay away completely but others may be fine with it's effects and enjoy the psychedelic influence it has...the main reason most humans smoke Marijuana. Even though, there will be a smaller population, a population that experiences something different...a population that is privy to the other side.

This sounds incredible, even to those who experience it, but Marijuana is the critical part of humanity that many will never partake in, and those who do take part, misunderstand its true meaning. I wish I could explain this better but it is an experience that is unintelligible in a written language, it is only explainable in complete experience.

Some will see, most will remain blind and very few will harness it's potential.
 
doublelongdaddy;281388 said:
Weed will bring us to a level of existence that is unattainable without it's influence. When we feel this influence we are able to produce art, literature, music or any other academic or artistic study that is far superior to the self we know as a un-influenced human being. I understand that many may believe that weed is a "gateway drug" meaning, a drug that is the beginning of an addiction that ends with hard drugs (heroin, cocaine) and death, jail or mental institution.

Understanding the full benefits of Marijuana requires a mind able to ignore the paranoia of hallucinations, see the benefit of real vision, rationally accept thoughts and putting into production the parts that are truly real. This is a tall order and making these things happen, positively, through human control, while high, requires a very strong, experienced, humble and open mind. Most men will experience the complete paranoia of weed or the unintelligible laughter of it's effects but few will be able to comprehend the reality of it's massive potency and the power it allows it's participants.

Weed is a herb that is for those who can tolerate it's influence. Some may be allergic to it and they should stay away completely but others may be fine with it's effects and enjoy the psychedelic influence it has...the main reason most humans smoke Marijuana. Even though, there will be a smaller population, a population that experiences something different...a population that is privy to the other side.

This sounds incredible, even to those who experience it, but Marijuana is the critical part of humanity that many will never partake in, and those who do take part, misunderstand its true meaning. I wish I could explain this better but it is an experience that is unintelligible in a written language, it is only explainable in complete experience.

Some will see, most will remain blind and very few will harness it's potential.

So your some kinda super human, I don't think weed is needed to be creative. It's still a health hazard, I'm not bashing you it's all good, I was a major Pot head at one stage.
 
Pandora;281394 said:
So your some kinda super human, I don't think weed is needed to be creative. It's still a health hazard, I'm not bashing you it's all good, I was a major Pot head at one stage.

Not that I am a super human, but every human is. Yes, Marijuana is a health hazard, it is toxic on many levels, but when did men stop a engaging in pleasure because of health hazards? :) Being a Pot Head is a bad thing, it identifies one as a person who has exhausted the "good" influences of weed and fell victim to the laziness and unproductive "tail end" nature of POT. With proper respect, just as with sex, alcohol, food or any other "addictive" substance/act, Marijuana is a valuable supplement to the intelligence of the human mind as long as control is present.
 
doublelongdaddy;281399 said:
Not that I am a super human, but every human is. Yes, Marijuana is a health hazard, it is toxic on many levels, but when did men stop a engaging in pleasure because of health hazards? :) Being a Pot Head is a bad thing, it identifies one as a person who has exhausted the "good" influences of weed and fell victim to the laziness and unproductive "tail end" nature of POT. With proper respect, just as with sex, alcohol, food or any other "addictive" substance/act, Marijuana is a valuable supplement to the intelligence of the human mind as long as control is present.

Hahhaha take few hits from the Bong, yeah I know what your saying, it use to make me more focused, I think endorphins come into play some how tho, the lezzness is what keeps me away now tho.

Interesting article.

Mark Edward Manning;281399 said:
"Who is right?" asks Leslie L. Iversen, a professor in the Department of Clinical Pharmacology at Imperial College London School of Medicine and founder of Panos Therapeutics Ltd. "Is cannabis a relatively harmless 'soft drug?' Does it have genuine medical uses that cannot be fulfilled by other medicines? Or ... is cannabis in fact an addictive narcotic drug that governments are right to protect the public from?" These questions are posed to the reader in the first chapter of his book The Science of Marijuana.

Although it was first released by Oxford University Press in 2000, The Science of Marijuana is still a knowledgeable and relatively up-to-date work that delves into the history, pharmacology, chemical composition and related compounds, the effects of and the societal attitude to the drug. Dr. Iversen describes himself as "a scientist who works on understanding how drugs act on the brain" and served as a consultant to the House of Lords Committee on cannabis, which declared, in 1998, that marijuana has both good and bad points. (How uncontroversial of them!)

One major, fascinating fact to be exposed early in the book (Chapter 2, "The Pharmacology of THC") is that cannabinoid receptors exist in the brain and that they may be related to the opiate receptors. This would suggest that there might be naturally occurring cannabinoids in the human body. If this is true, then it is obvious that THC, the drug component of marijuana, works by stimulating the endorphins that regulate cannabinoid activity in the brain. However, as Iversen informs us, more research would be needed to establish this.

Iversen next discusses the effects of cannabis on the central nervous system. He describes both the mostly pleasurable, but sometimes frightening experiences that can occur, that marijuana can cause "double consciousness," in which people can actually train themselves to act normally while intoxicated, and the temporary failure of working memory - though the ability to remember previously learned material remains unaffected.

With regard to medical marijuana, Iversen explains that cannabis was long used as a remedy for constipation, gout, malaria, rheumatism and other various pains in Eastern culture, but wasn’t taken seriously for its medicinal capacities by the West until the 1800s. Unfortunately, as doctors soon discovered:

The potency of commercial preparations varied from pharmacist to pharmacist as there was no means of standardizing the preparations for their content of the active drug. What proved to be an effective dose when using material from one supplier would either have no noticeable effects or would produce unpleasant intoxication.

Due to the problems involved with effectively isolating THC and other cannabinoids, getting a standardized cannabis-based medicine that doctors and governments alike would approve remains difficult. Synthetic analogues of THC are not much better as there is just as narrow a window between pain-killing effects and intoxication as with natural THC. Dronabinol (registered as Marinol), which is delta-9-THC but with low abuse potential, and Nabilone (registered as Cesamet), an analogue of THC, are both discussed in terms of helping chemotherapy patients to deal with nausea and AIDS patients to fight wasting syndrome. But it would appear that, despite considerable anecdotal evidence that marijuana helps chemotherapy patients and those with AIDS, multiple sclerosis, and glaucoma, other drugs exist that do not justify the use of cannabis.

Chapter 5, "Is Cannabis Safe?," is self-explanatory. Although THC is determined to be safe with regard to toxicity, it is made clear that those with heart problems or existing mental illness should not use marijuana. Also, it is also evident that cannabis smoke differs very little in chemical and particle composition to tobacco smoke. As 96 percent of all recreational use of marijuana involves smoking the drug, it could be argued that, on the basis of the smoke alone, cannabis presents a health risk. Iversen also discusses the effects of cannabis during pregnancy, concluding that alcohol is by far the most dangerous to the fetus, but that "although the risks of exposure to marijuana during pregnancy do not appear to be great, it is surely better not to take any drugs during pregnancy, or to drink alcohol or smoke tobacco." No argument there. Unfortunately, as alcohol and tobacco are legal, and therefore tests of their impacts on human health are easy to determine, the illegality of cannabis means that studies on the real impact of cannabis upon mental or physical health cannot be as effectively studied. Who is willing to risk arrest and prosecution under harsh drug laws by either conducting or participating in such studies, after all? Iversen stipulates that since marijuana has only been prevalent in the West since the 1960s, there may not be any conclusive evidence yet as to whether marijuana is truly harmful or not, even if contemporary research into the effects of cannabis were more solid.

Chapter 6 tackles the recreational use of marijuana and one study cited in particular would seem to confirm what the pro-pot crowd has long stressed:

Kandel et al (1996) surveyed 7611 students, aged 13-18 in 53 New York schools. Of these, 995 had experience with marijuana, but there was no evidence that this had any significant impact on their school performance or their family relationships, whereas the small number (121) of crack cocaine users showed significant impairments in both.

Iversen refers to another study of 2,794 young British cannabis users, of which 57.8 percent reported positive effects of their recreational use of cannabis - 25.6 percent of those cited relaxation and relief from stress as the reason they toked. Twenty-one percent reported problems, impaired memory, paranoia and laziness the main problems. Dependence and psychosis together represent just 1 percent of the problems experienced by the British stoners.

The concern over the increased potency of marijuana over the years - that today's pot is not your father's pot - is largely unfounded because THC is not toxic and, as Iversen aptly says, "But is this [increased potency] necessarily a matter of concern? Looking at some of the positive aspects one could argue that if people are going to consume cannabis illegally, then is it not better that they consume material that has been grown under clean conditions?" It is hard to find fault with that point. Also, the higher the potency, the less of a joint a person needs to consume to get the desired high, thereby inhaling less smoke.

The much-argued point as to whether marijuana is a "gateway" drug is aptly referred to by a quote from drug researchers Zimmer and Morgan that Iverson provides:

[M]ost people who ride a motorcycle (a fairly rare activity) have ridden a bicycle (a fairly common activity). Indeed the prevalence of motorcycle riding among people who have never ridden a bicycle is probably extremely low. However, bicycle riding does not cause motorcycle riding, and increases in the former will not lead automatically to increases in the latter. Nor will increases in marijuana use automatically lead to increases in the use of cocaine or other drugs.

Although THC triggers dopamine release similar in fashion to the opiates and the similarity of the cannabinoid and opiate receptors of the brain may explain some cases of dependence on marijuana where they exist, it is a poor argument for the "gateway" theory. This is much more of a personality problem than a problem specific to cannabis. In fact, as Iversen states, parental and peer influence are the prime factors. Through a combination of both, kids will try tobacco and/or alcohol at age 12, and then move on to marijuana at the age of 15. Whether they stop with cannabis or move on to cocaine or heroin is very much dependent upon societal and personal influences. In fact, according to this, are not alcohol and tobacco - legal drugs - "gateways" to marijuana use?

The seventh and final chapter, "What Next?," is also self-explanatory. Iversen provides a history of official early reports into cannabis usage and effects, most notably the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission Report in 1894 commissioned by the British, The Marihauana Problem in the City of New York report by Mayor La Guardia in 1944, and the British Wooton Report in 1968 - all of which stressed that cannabis wasn't, after all, a drug that made people crazy and which condemned its prohibition. But American and British anti-drug lords temporal ignored and rubbished these reports simply because, in each case, it is not what they wanted to hear. The de facto (but by no means de jure) legalization of small amounts of cannabis in the Netherlands since 1976 is also discussed. Iversen determines that it is still too early to tell how successful the Dutch experiment has been, but he appears to think that it has done more good than harm.

Iversen ends the book asking what fate cannabis may face in this, the twenty-first century. He mentions that opinion polls in both the U.S. and Britain overwhelmingly favor a relaxing in the laws governing cannabis and cannabis-based medicines, and that such moves also enjoy substantial support in the medical community who are justifiably frustrated by marijuana's illicit status. But he also concludes that clinical research in the States and Europe will continue until, perhaps one day soon, trials appear so positive that governments will have to follow in line with the wishes of the citizenry. Other matters are discussed too: The specter of marijuana encouraging idleness (as opposed to the aggressiveness that is fuelled by alcohol), the risk of more people becoming dependent on cannabis if marijuana use became more widespread, the treating of marijuana possession and usage as a crime as a reflection of unnecessarily harsh public policy, and the fact that 80 percent of all drug offenses are for cannabis possession and usage. Iversen eventually concludes, "Perhaps the compromise that we are most likely to reach in the foreseeable future would be something resembling the Dutch experiment - a grudging acceptance that cannabis has become part of our culture, but falling short of full legalization."

At the end of this richly factual book, my own attitude to cannabis has not changed. I have been given a lot more insight as to why marketing a cannabis-related drug is so hard and can appreciate the both the positive and negative effects upon one’s health from using marijuana. My personal belief is still that it should be decriminalized (if not legalized). If you are prepared to accept personal responsibility for smoking it, as most do, and are otherwise fit and healthy with no history of mental illness, then you should be allowed to use it.

Even though five years have passed since its publication, The Science of Marijuana is still a wonderful contemporary study of cannabis and I thank Dr. Iversen for helping to embolden my position on this particular drug. It deserves to be read by anyone who is truly interested in knowing the truths, not hyperbole and misinformation, about marijuana.
 
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