Have you been stretching 30 mins a day? If you haven't then that's why you aren't gaining.
 
I have not been stretching but just to experiment today I stretched for maybe 2 minutes and wore a vac-extender for the first hour and started to get an decent ache. Knowing that I still had at least a couple hours and the ache would likely get stronger as time goes on I took it off and got some sleep.

When I woke up to my alarm clock (for the second time) I noticed I had a really decent ache. Also took almost 1-1/2 hours for the erection to go down this time I was really getting worried but as always it did subside. I am going to incorporate stretching for a few minutes and experiment with the intensity.

I am also sticking with the 20+ minutes of wrap and/or a cockring to keep the PGE1 in the CC as I think its imperative for me to get more consistent erections. I have 4 cockrings on the way each one has something different about it but mostly interested in the lasso type rubber cockring with the bead to adjust the tension and the 2" o-ring.

Cockrings from place I bought from...
http://www.iysextoys.com/buy/sex_toys_for_men/7.html

I did a quick google search and www.iysextoys.com was lowest price and had a fair sized selection. Some places had the exact same things for 2-3x the price! I bought 4 "cockrings" and 6oz of silicone lube... the lube almost costs more than the cockrings LOL
 
Don't stretch while you have the erection, just do 30 minutes of stretching every morning. 75% SD and the other 25% distributed evenly SO, SU, left, and right.
 
If you are able to deal with the discomfort, do the stretching immediately after your erection subsides. Otherwise, wait as long as necessary for the pain to dissipate and then do your stretches.
 
goldmember;278805 said:
If you are able to deal with the discomfort, do the stretching immediately after your erection subsides. Otherwise, wait as long as necessary for the pain to dissipate and then do your stretches.
You need to wait a few hours, because you're still semi for a while after the erection subsides. It is good to do the stretching as soon as possible after injection, though.
 
why not inject while stretching? i havent done it, but it seems that if your penis isnt too thin while stretched it would be the ultimate time. than leave the hanger on for another 15min or so, and once its off you should be gettin pretty erect by that point.

so is it more beneficial to hang before or after pge-1 injection?
 
Hang afterward if possible. I think stretching before would temporarily toughen the tunica, making injection difficult and/or painful.
 
That's been my experience with it. If you stretch too much before you inject on a day, then you're going to 'miss' your injection.
 
kushextender;278811 said:
why not inject while stretching? i havent done it, but it seems that if your penis isnt too thin while stretched it would be the ultimate time. than leave the hanger on for another 15min or so, and once its off you should be gettin pretty erect by that point.

so is it more beneficial to hang before or after pge-1 injection?
This won't work. The stretching itself won't be more beneficial in the minutes before injection because the PGE-1 hasn't had it's effect on collagen yet. Furthermore stretching while injecting will force blood out of the CC's and make the injection itself very tricky. After that the PGE-1 will be forced into the bloodstream before it can be 'trapped' in the CC's by an erection.
 
I ordered an "AutoJect 2" on eBay just now. I'm hoping it will remove all anxiety I get while injecting... I still push the needle in but it sucks as sometimes it feels like I have lost almost all strength in my hand and arm its crazyness =P (I have actually dropped the needle after pushing it in once!). This injection tool is susposeto make injections easier by pushing the needle in and depressing the plunger on the syringe.

My hope is that with the speed the needle is pushed in I won't feel it much at all... Kinda worried at the speed the syringe is depressed but I'm guessing it won't be fast enough to cause a problem.
 
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AutoJect2 arrived today I was excited... until about 10 minutes ago when I relized it would not work as well as I thought. I guess it worked tho I had a perfect manual injection today for whatever reason all "anxiety" or rather fear of a pain that doesn't happen is gone =)

Only new progress I have to report is that the girth expansion I get from the "wrap" I have been doing for the first 20 minutes after injection is lasting longer and longer. When I first started the 1/4" of girth expansion I would get would only last a few hours after injection now its lasting upto the next injection which is 2 days later and its about 3/8" over what it is normally. Well 3/8" after the 20 minutes of wearing the wrap but 1/4" is lasting upto the next injection rather.
 
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I use the AutoJect2 and it works perfect for me... it makes the injection perfectly painless and a no-brainer. Why didn't it work for you??
 
I am a wimp with the AutoJect2 I guess as I seem to loose the ability to push the button! I worry about what it feels like or if it will go too deep.
 
Smertrios;279778 said:
I am a wimp with the AutoJect2 I guess as I seem to loose the ability to push the button! I worry about what it feels like or if it will go too deep.

try to do deep breathing and on the exhale press the button. I had that fear for the first while as well. It's perfectly natural.
 
As long as you set the needle to only go past the tip of the Autoject by about 1/4" and place the tip lightly over your shaft... you don't ever have to worry about going too deep. It is so fast that it pokes and injects the solution in less than one second. The worst part about the whole experience is the pop sound of the AutoJect when you push the button.
 
i don't THINK that, i remember reading it somewhere. maybe the source was mistaken.
 
well just wouldn't make much sense. it would in intramuscular injections, but not intracavernosally. There's too much space there for the speed of injection to matter. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
 
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I just had a bad manual injection tonight I am going to have to use the autoject2! I thought I had the needle all the way into the CC but ended up with a bubble of the solution under my skin instead. It felt right while injecting but wasn't =P

I am almost 100% certain it would be impossible to get the same kind of "bad injection" using the autoject2 since the surface of the CC with the blood behind it would not have enough time to move with the needle thus the needle penetrates rather than sits on the surface.

@Sikdogg, @spinner2 - Do you hold your autoject2 against your penis to dis-engage the "safety"? When I hold it against my penis its like the whole CC chamber is pressed flat and bent at an angle. No matter how hard I am pulling on the glans! I thought a piece of electrical tape to hold the 2 pieces of the autoject2's safety together would effectively dis-engage the safety so that I could inject without pressing hard.
 
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