Smertrios

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I finally after 2 years of reading about chemical pe and almost 3 months of let downs trying to get ahold of some PGE1 am able to give it a go! The first injection was by far the scariest as I did not know exactly what to expect at least not 100%. Several hours after the injection when I could see the effects wearing down I had a very good idea of what to expect in the future. In fact I injected 3 days in a row that was a bit much and I guess by knowing that I learned something =)... and what I learned is... every other day for injections...

I have injected 4 times now and have been experimenting with increasing amounts of PGE1. Its effect for me is not an uncontrollable boner its more like a "boner" that only needs 5% of "influence" to get really hard instead of 80%+ if that makes any sense. Once erect it stays erect for awhile before needing more "influence". This can last several hours then I start needing more and more "influence" between full erections. Seems like the more relaxed I am when I get an erection the longer it will last.

All in all its working great since I can maintain long duration erections with little effort and the "un-linking" effect of PGE1 on the collagen fibers of the penis can do its thing. Ohya I am also using Alprostadil transdermally and IGF1-LR3 when I remember to... have only used it with 1 injection thus far heh. The IGF1-LR3 is going to run out soon anyway I don't know if I will be getting more.

Day to day stuff I do that may be effecting any gains I may get...

Taking a testosterone supplement called "TestroZin" for increasing my test levels. I started taking the HiTech equivalent (2 products) of whats in TestroZin several weeks ago and when I needed more I ordered something different to see how it works. Less expensive and seems to be working just as well if not a bit better.

Basic aerobics I am doing just to work up stamina and strength. I am kindova wimp and working on becoming a "shirty" heh (no offence to anyone) and the testosterone supplements have me confident I can put on some muscle while taking them.

For Chemical Penis Enlargement I will be doing a basic routine...

1: Injecting PGE1 how ever much I feel is needed to get a good effect
2: Applying Andractim on my penis
3: maintain a good erection for 3 hours

A side effect of the PGE1 is a "semi erection" for many hours following the initial 3 hours of erection. The semi varies greatly as to how erect it is from moment to moment sometimes going erect for a few minutes.
 
Great to see you finally got everything together. It might be really frustrating in the beginning but stick with it. It's been 2 months for me and I'm JUST starting to settle into a consistent schedule with predictable erections.
 
Smertrios said:
Ohya I am also using Alprostadil transdermally .


How it works ????? Does it give you a long Time Boner too ? Compared to the injectable Version what are the Differences ???? ,,,,,,
 
I'm not clear... are you applying the IGF transdermally or injecting?? If you are applying it transdermally, then i wouldn't bother as that's a waste.

Good luck... :)
 
Yeah, IGF needs to be injected since it's such a big molecule. I might hold off on it until you get injections down, cause I think the risk of fibrosis is slightly higher (from the acetic acid). Send me some PM's when you run into problems with your routine and I'll try to help out.
 
spinner2 said:
Yeah, IGF needs to be injected since it's such a big molecule. I might hold off on it until you get injections down, cause I think the risk of fibrosis is slightly higher (from the acetic acid). Send me some PM's when you run into problems with your routine and I'll try to help out.
You are right, but you can reconstitute with BA water if you use the 100mcg kits. Have you considered Penis EnlargementGylated-MGF as well?
 
goldmember said:
You are right, but you can reconstitute with BA water if you use the 100mcg kits. Have you considered Penis EnlargementGylated-MGF as well?
I hadn't considered it, but I'll research it some. I'll send you a PM after I have some questions on it.
 
PGE1 seems to have lasting effects that go beyond just the first few hours of injection. Even 48 hours after the initial injection my erections are fuller, more rigid and easier to get than usual. "normal" girth from before I started injecting was around 5" or a little less than that but since injecting with PGE1 my girth is slightly more than 5-1/4".

Some of that extra 1/4" is from swolen skin but I am almost certain not all of it is. Length I have not measured I should have done that before injecting but seems longer and definitely more rigid!

Injecting is a breeze but not sure about my technique. I am slow to push the needle as I am still scared of the needle =P. Can take 10+ second for me to get it through the tunica or so it seems anyway. The technique is this... Pull penis out, pick a spot, start pushing it in. When it hits the tunica it can be very difficult to push through so I twirl the needle a little to work it through. Its obvious when the needle has punctured the tunica because the dent in my skin and tunica pops up on the needle shaft.

So far I like it... Might be everything I expect it to be! Should get a log started so when done I can post it and show the different things I was doing.
 
I had a bad injection day today! I injected into the right side and...... NOTHING! I must not have made it through the CC. I waited a couple hours to make sure and when there was still no effect I injected on the left side. This is making me reconsider using an injector but don't know if its worth it I have a mental block preventing me from even considering them for some reason.

Todays injection went like this...

Inject right side... nothing
inject left side... 15 minute erection then a partial for 45
took a stamina RX and got a decent erection
wrapped a shoestring around my cock and balls

Worked pretty good but that Stamina RX with the PGE1 was almost too much I was getting worried walking around with a nearly full erection 2 hours after I thought I was done! The shoestring is something I will likely do again the really hard erection will be awesome for girth.

Just FYI I measured today and BP measurement fully erect is 6-3/4, girth is 5-1/4. These are both measurments taken the day after a Penis Enlargement session. The length seems about right maybe slightly longer than pre Penis Enlargement size but I believe the girth expanded 1/4 inch over normal pre Penis Enlargement size.
 
If you inject and there's no effect then it's not always safe to give yourself another full injection. That's the easiest way to overdose and give yourself a priapism. It's usually better to just inject the next day when this happens.
 
Have noticed a sharp dropoff in erection quality this last week or rather the lack of a chemically induced erection with today being the first complete lack of an erection. I guess it might be possible I hit a vein inside the CC but I really doubt that could have happened without me noticing bulging veins all over my penis =P... my guess is that the PGE1 has finally fizzled out and its time to mix a new batch. Been about 3 weeks but only the first 1-1/2 maybe 2 weeks appeared to be full strength.

Just FYI: I mixed the PGE1 and it sat out at room temp for a couple hours on the first day. Other than that its been in the fridge 100% of the time excluding the time it takes me to draw off a few IU's every 2 days...
 
hey smertrios whats your source for pge 1?
Is it tlr or somebody else...any help would be great
 
My computer got a key-logger viruss and in a pure act of panic I formatted my computer... lost a few details like where I bought my PGE1. Finding it initially was not difficult I was searching for an importer. When I found one I asked for a quote and sent them a digital wad of money. Turned out to be a US address that billed and shipped it to me just FYI.

To be honest I don't want to give out a source for my own reasons the first of which is that the general information I have is telling me that that selling PGE1 without a script is illegal. I seriously think I may have just slipped through a virtual crack so to speak (assuming its illegal I have not and prolly will not ever check).

If I had it to do over I would *LOVE* to get a bunch of .2-1 mg vials to reconstitute at will... Was thinking about buying and re-selling for a tight profit (still huge savings for those that can't/won't buy in bulk). That was until all the talk about it being illegal squashed my plans (checking the legalness was part of the "plan" but never made it out of the "just thinking about it" phase =P). Reason for .2 mg vials is that it doesn't last long after reconstitution and that .2 would be a gods plenty for most people assuming 2 weeks is the average life of the PGE1 before it starts degrading fast.

EDIT: Did not mention this and the whole time writing this I had another post I made in mind but neglected to put some important information in this post about it... I bought a whopping amount of powder PGE1 and its all in 1 vial. It would be soooooooooo much more convenient and consistent to have pre-measured vials.
 
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I googled laws reguarding PGE1 and found some interesting information but can't be used for law checking. Basically it said PGE1 is not illegal to sell as long as no intent is implied to how it should be used but things live Caverject and Muse are illegal to sell without a script not because they contain PGE1 but because they can contain other chemicals and are medical products intended for human use.

To further understand a poster compared a medical penis pump to a pump you buy on ebay. The medical penis pump *is* illegal to sell without a script but only because it is a "medical device" (and the illegalness is mostly aimed at requirements in place because of insurance companies and the medical industry). The pumps being sold on eBay are not recognized as medical devices and thus not regulated even tho they would appear to be similar (eBay pumps are better anyway heh).

Could be BS I have no idea was just something I read on a dead forum that had no posts since July this year... And not many posts total from what I saw!

That said I searched google beyond this one link and could not find anything saying PGE1 was regulated...
 
Took 5 days off of my chemical Penis Enlargement routine and came back with a new better way to do it I think. I inject like normal but use a wrap right after injecting to help hold the pge1 in the CC for around the first 1/2 hour. This can get pretty intense giving anywhere from 1/4" to 3/8" of girth expansion from the constriction (its not super tight but with PGE1 it does not have to be).

Reason for taking the wrap off is that after about 1/2 hour it starts to feel less like a stetch and more like a pain. Not bad but enough I take it as a warning to stop. Its only semi-erect immediately following removal of the wrap but that quickly changes to a full erection that lasts and lasts. In fact I believe it is a priapism as I have to work on it for 1/2 hour 45 minutes after the 3 hour self imposed time limit is up or it wont go down... not hard to get rid of the erection tho as a few seconds of squats every few minutes eventually make it subside enough that I'm left with a semi for a couple hours.

Injections are much easier now as the "pinch" feeling is not so hard to resist (it has stopped me from injecting before its a serious mental block for me sometimes heh). I am even injecting further up from the base now where the CC is much more sensitive to the injection punctures.

So basically now my routine has gone from the following...

Inject and then try to maintain an erection for 3 hours and do this every 2 days

to...

Inject, Wrap, un-wrap wait 2-1/2 hours, make the erection subside and do this every 2 days

Actually I left an important detail out... I am setting my alarm clock so I can do this in the morning I actually sleep for 2-1/2 hours of this =P. Reason being is that even tho I can make it subside after 3 hours laying down is all it takes to get another erection so I have to time it so that when I am done I wont be sleeping any further. Doesn't take as much time out of my day this way either...

Hydromaxm just had a thought about the injections and maybe the reason I believe they are "easier" is that I am just waking up when I do it heh oh well just making a progress report...

no gains to report as of yet
 
Another perfect chemical Penis Enlargement session. I injected, wrapped but only for about 20 minutes because the wrap was uncomfortable, slept about 2-1/2 hours... was 45 minutes after the 3 hours was up and the erection was gone.

This "new method" of chemical Penis Enlargement gives me much more consistent results as I can count on having a 3 hour hard erection each and every time. At least that is how its been the previous 3 injections. The first months injections varied from a mostly erect 3 hours that took quite a bit of work on my part (typical) to not getting a chemical erection at all.
 
are you incorporating anything else in your regimen smertrios? have you thought of igf-1, or some other type of "booster"?
 
No plans to add anything I'm going to give it another month and see what happens. If I get no gains again I will start adding more to my routine. I really think I will get gains this month however...
 
I think it's a great idea to fall asleep and set your alarm. Let us know how that goes. If length is your main goal, you might want to consider an ADS to add to your routine.
 
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