I used to buy everything autoextender put out. I know the quality is low. I also know that no person has gained a true 1/2" in 1 month using that (or any) device. Sorry to be so short but I'm in a hurry and I've finally just had it with the behavior at �other forum�. Once you realize it's a sham it's hard to believe all the promotional posts. As far as big girtha: I got some suspicions about fake posters and autoextender when every time he comes out with something guys who have been members for like 5 years and have like 12 posts suddenly come out of the woodwork to talk it up. I never thought BG was a shill but I am now suspicious given the timing. Perhaps I'm paranoid but when you know someone is bullshitting you it's hard to believe anything they say.

To clarify: I think there are many good members at �other forum� who do positive things and are sincere. I just know that �other forum� isn't the public service forum they push themselves as. Every other forum is marketing something and that's okay: they say so and make no secret about it. �other forum� however lies about it. Ever notice how all the moderators recommend autoextender?
 
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I used to buy everything autoextender put out. I know the quality is low. I also know that no person has gained a true 1/2" in 1 month using that (or any) device. Sorry to be so short but I'm in a hurry and I've finally just had it with the behavior at �other forum�. Once you realize it's a sham it's hard to believe all the promotional posts. As far as big girtha: I got some suspicions about fake posters and autoextender when every time he comes out with something guys who have been members for like 5 years and have like 12 posts suddenly come out of the woodwork to talk it up. I never thought BG was a shill but I am now suspicious given the timing. Perhaps I'm paranoid but when you know someone is bullshitting you it's hard to believe anything they say.

To clarify: I think there are many good members at �other forum� who do positive things and are sincere. I just know that �other forum� isn't the public service forum they push themselves as. Every other forum is marketing something and that's okay: they say so and make no secret about it. �other forum� however lies about it. Ever notice how all the moderators recommend autoextender?
I feel you bro;)

My friend Svensk gained 0.4 inches in 1 month using the VacExtender(or 1 cm as we use that metric system in sweden).
He used it after school and sometimes after excercising after school. His testamonial is true,no doubt about it. I asked Svensk about the quality and if anything was broken or bruised from 1 months wearing. He has stated that it is very good quality,No bruises or broken areas.And as I mentioned before he will mail me an sleeve to check for myself. (I will post my comments about it here)

Im also getting more interested in your theory regarding "fake members". It sounds logical if you think about it,but as you mentioned it could just be paranoia.
I do not really know,I will pray to the Penis Enlargement oracles that this is not true :D
I also agree with you on the point regarding Different sites push different Penis Enlargement Equipment. T´s is a "free penis enlargement" forum,it has no offical device to push,but I consider it to be the Home of Autoextender until their own forum gets online.

The thing about Big girthas review is that it was put in the "Max Vac Hanger review thread",a thread where he truely endorsed the product to begin with.

Here is a quote of his first post:
"As a rule, I never recommend devices that are designed outside this community. I have two very good reasons for this. One, I honestly feel we know more about Penis Enlargement than anyone in the private sector, and two: the feedback our designers get from us makes their products improve over a period of time. We discuss the gadgets on the threads, we say what we like and what we don’t like and make suggestions. When you have 50,000 members tweaking your Penis Enlargement device it can’t help but get better.

A while back I received a PM from one of our mods telling me I would be asked by someone outside this forum to test and review this new hanger. I was also advised that our moderators were okay with this, as long as I gave an honest review. At first I was skeptical, but finally decided to do it because the concept sounded interesting to me, and also because the designer was an Ex-member here, so I figure he has at least benefited from our wisdom to some degree. I don’t know why he is an EX member and I don’t care. I’m not here to review the man only his device because it is based on a principal I agree with completely.

In fact this vacuum hanger idea is nothing new; it has been discussed here and on other forums for years. I have always felt that pulling from the tip of the glands gives a much better stretch of the internal structures than hangers that grip only the sides of the shaft. One only has to grip the tip of the penis and pull out to see what I mean. When you grip from the tip of the glands with your fingers and pull you feel the pull is more directed to the tunica and ligs. I hate to use the (Shilow) telescoping antenna analogy, but that describes it well. It is like your penis un-retracts, or un-turtles, if you will. When you grip the sides what you mostly feel is skin pull. In the past gripping the sides with enough force to stretch the internal structures has always put a great deal of pressure on the shaft. My urologist has argued that the force required by the Bib hanger to hold excessive weights can cause injury to the urethra and/or cavernosum. After actually examining my Bib hanger she was sure it is what caused an injury I incurred a while back. I wrote a thread about this, I don’t recall the title.

Even pumping with weighted cylinders you are still pulling mostly skin. I’ve tried slipping baseball weights onto a two inch cylinder and putting lead weights inside a penis scrotum cylinder for use as suction hangers. But doing this the attachment point is the pubic fat pad, also some scrotal skin gets stretched but there is very little if any internal tug. The problem has always been that until now there has never been an effective way to grip the tip with enough force to hang any real weight. There have been ADSs like the TLG Tugger and some companies such as MaleBridge and or TrackMan that have capitalized on the aspect of suction for attaching a hanger, although the cost of these devices are exceptionally high.

I recall a while back we were talking about using the Kaplan Head Enlarger as a kind of suction hanger that would attach to the upper shaft. I have discussed similar ideas with members like sparkyx and mgus. The SuckExtender idea was along this very concept. We’ve tried gravel cleaners with inner tubes. There was sparky with his inner tube and condom pumping, and monkeybar with his new silicon sleeve. We’ve all talked about it, but finally someone has actually developed and produced a hanger that attaches to the upper shaft and glands with enough effectiveness to hold medium to heavy weights comfortably for long periods of time. I was interested in this product because I myself am in the market for a new and better hanger. I have been working with MB and Monty on several ideas, but for now this device seems to me to be the best hanger available for medium to heavy weights. I think it beats the Bib hands down for weights up to twenty pounds. It attaches to the glands and upper shaft so all the stretch is directed to the inner structures rather than just skin. The cylinder attaches very easily and quickly without wrapping and is very comfortable with weights under 20 pounds for long periods of time.

PROBLEMS WITH THE DEVICE:

There is a bit of a learning curve with the hanger like with any new Penis Enlargement Device, but nothing near as difficult as the wrapping and toe in toe out adjustments on the Bib.

I get a little bit of a doughnut if I do more than three twenty minute sets at twenty pounds.

I also had a problem with the attachment hose coming off, which I’m told is a safety quick-release-feature. That is if you have to get out of the hanger quick, you just pull the hose off the nipple and it releases the pressure and the hanger falls off. I didn’t like this because I kept knocking it off with the hand pump. I squirted a little dab of silicon calking to the nipple permanently attaching the hose. Now it does not fall off. In fact, the hanger is a little difficult to get off like this, but I prefer it this way. There may be some better way to keep the hose on, perhaps a nylon cable tie, or a smaller hose.

But this is my honest review. Overall, I give the hanger a hearty thumbs up as it is, and I’m sure it will improve with our feedback. I was told I could attach a link to the site to this thread. There is also a very good tutorial video there on using the device showing the user actually lifting and dropping a fifteen pound weight from about waste height. (Not recommended)

The link is:
www.mynewsize.com

I was provided with a hanger at no cost to my self for the test and evaluation, otherwise I am in no way affiliated with this product, nor am I receiving any proceeds for sales or this review."

As you have experience with the older products of Autoextender,is it possible that Monkeybar has developed more quality into his products over the years?

You have a lot of knowledge to share in this thread, which device do you personally prefere and why?
 
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