SG refund

Hey guys just wanted some advice with a refund for the size genetics extender. I've logged over 400 hours in this thing, and saw an increase in bone pressed flacid stretch of about an inch. but that's all, no erect increase not even a quarter of an inch. I've contacted them regarding a refund, but they say they wont refund me unless, i send the male extra pills box (which I threw away) the two circular bandage thingys which literally disintegrated after four months of use, and the black rubber strip, which I lost. I know you have to return everything to get the refund, but this seems unreasonable to me, as I was expecting it to work. thats why I bought it! can anybody help me here. DLD could you talk to SG for me? the product is a good quality and I know people have gains more length, in less time than me, but it wasnt for me.

thanks guys

I would not bother returning it. I have no idea what your routine is but I would recommend keeping the SG and using it as it is a part of SRT.

coogi;547724 said:

Hey guys just wanted some advice with a refund for the size genetics extender. I've logged over 400 hours in this thing, and saw an increase in bone pressed flacid stretch of about an inch. but that's all, no erect increase not even a quarter of an inch. I've contacted them regarding a refund, but they say they wont refund me unless, i send the male extra pills box (which I threw away) the two circular bandage thingys which literally disintegrated after four months of use, and the black rubber strip, which I lost. I know you have to return everything to get the refund, but this seems unreasonable to me, as I was expecting it to work. thats why I bought it! can anybody help me here. DLD could you talk to SG for me? the product is a good quality and I know people have gains more length, in less time than me, but it wasnt for me.

thanks guys

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Hello my Brother and thanks for the opportunity to advise you. If you have logged 400 hours and have seen an inch increase in Flaccid Stretched Bone Pressed Length you have certainly gained an inch. It may have not yet become manifested as an erect gain but it is waiting for it! The SizeGenetics Extender (or any good Extender) is a very important part of the SRT program in the way of gaining and healing. Such gains you have made that have not become erect would benefit greatly because of the techniques in SRT. The program puts just as much work into healing as it does into gaining. Healing is all about closing that gap where you are and getting the the erect gain. The flaccid stretched gains always comes first and then it is followed by the erect.

Two things that really helped me in the conversion of these gains was Erect Stretching and Expressive Stretching, both focus on cementing gains and offer great speed in the conversion of such.

doublelongdaddy;547779 said:

Hello my Brother and thanks for the opportunity to advise you. If you have logged 400 hours and have seen an inch increase in Flaccid Stretched Bone Pressed Length you have certainly gained an inch. It may have not yet become manifested as an erect gain but it is waiting for it! The SizeGenetics Extender (or any good Extender) is a very important part of the SRT program in the way of gaining and healing. Such gains you have made that have not become erect would benefit greatly because of the techniques in SRT. The program puts just as much work into healing as it does into gaining. Healing is all about closing that gap where you are and getting the the erect gain. The flaccid stretched gains always comes first and then it is followed by the erect.

Two things that really helped me in the conversion of these gains was Erect Stretching and Expressive Stretching, both focus on cementing gains and offer great speed in the conversion of such.

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Thanks heaps for the reply dld, I absolutely understand what you are saying, but, the device just doesn't fit with my job. I find it uncomfortable to wear, it messes with how I can walk and I am constantly thinking about it, wrapping, it restrapping it, I don't have the patience for this device. And I can't be running to the toilet constantly as I work in front of house of a restaurant. I have to wear tight business pants, I cant bend over or bend down either, by the way I use the velcro strap method. I want to take another approach by using the grip system, doing hanging, and then using their ads sleeve attatched to a knee brace when I'm recovering. I feel like like this is a much more suitable approach for me and would work great. But in order to order the grip system, I need to get my money back on this device.

By the way I dont want to discourage anyone from using this device. The Size genetics extender, is very good quality and thousands of inches have been gained I'm sure, but for me I can't use it anymore.

dld?

While I understand your frustrations, I do not understand how you feel entitled to a refund. You said you have worn it for 400 hours, at what point did you realize it was not the right device for you (ignoring gains)?

redpubes;548227 said:

While I understand your frustrations, I do not understand how you feel entitled to a refund. You said you have worn it for 400 hours, at what point did you realize it was not the right device for you (ignoring gains)?

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well I can explain how I feel "entitled" to a refund. When you buy the device, they offer a 6 month money back guarantee if you are not satisfied with the device. Which encouraged me to buy it if it didn't work out, so yes I feel entitled somewhat. When the pain of taking it off became so unbearable, I couldn't stand it. It was some of worst i'd ever felt. taking it off as the blood rush back into my penis, and that would be after, 45 minutes with a good wrap , on medium to high tension.

Hi Coogi

We do offer a full 6 month money back guarantee as we do understand that the device may not work for everyone, it did however work to some degree for you as you stated you saw a 1 inch gain. I really do think that if you continue using the product, you will continue to see more gains such in the erection length.

From your post, it seems that one of the main reasons why you wish to return the product is because of the uncomfortable feeling you get when wearing the device. If this pain was removed, would you feel better about wearing the product?

It might be worth giving out support team a call or drop them an email to discuss how your wearing the product IE length, tension etc - so they can work with you to make it more comfortable - resulting in you seeing better size gains.

We brought out the 16 way comfort system so that people could try different ways of wearing the device, so that they could find one that best suits them. It might also be worth trying the different accessories plus additional methods IE a baby sock.

I agree the request for male extra pill bottle, and those disposable additions is unreasonable. But honestly, you are better off keeping it. You can sell it on ebay for close to retail value, about 300 dollars is the going rate for the ultimate edition which is a fair return. Or you can list it for sale here, which will yield a lower profit but a faster sale. I think sizegenetics has to be pretty strict with their refund policy since it is a medical device, and some guys dont really keep their downstairs managed well. (Not saying you are one of those guys, just an insight)

Mind if I ask why you don't just hang on to it? You logged 400 hours, why turn back now. I feel like its similar to eating healthy for 6 months and then saying well i only lost some of my weight. Keep going!

coogi;547724 said:

Hey guys just wanted some advice with a refund for the size genetics extender. I've logged over 400 hours in this thing, and saw an increase in bone pressed flacid stretch of about an inch. but that's all, no erect increase not even a quarter of an inch. I've contacted them regarding a refund, but they say they wont refund me unless, i send the male extra pills box (which I threw away) the two circular bandage thingys which literally disintegrated after four months of use, and the black rubber strip, which I lost. I know you have to return everything to get the refund, but this seems unreasonable to me, as I was expecting it to work. thats why I bought it! can anybody help me here. DLD could you talk to SG for me? the product is a good quality and I know people have gains more length, in less time than me, but it wasnt for me.

thanks guys

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Are you incorporating any manual Penis Enlargement with it?

SizeGenetics;548252 said:

Hi Coogi

We do offer a full 6 month money back guarantee as we do understand that the device may not work for everyone, it did however work to some degree for you as you stated you saw a 1 inch gain. I really do think that if you continue using the product, you will continue to see more gains such in the erection length.

From your post, it seems that one of the main reasons why you wish to return the product is because of the uncomfortable feeling you get when wearing the device. If this pain was removed, would you feel better about wearing the product?

It might be worth giving out support team a call or drop them an email to discuss how your wearing the product IE length, tension etc - so they can work with you to make it more comfortable - resulting in you seeing better size gains.

We brought out the 16 way comfort system so that people could try different ways of wearing the device, so that they could find one that best suits them. It might also be worth trying the different accessories plus additional methods IE a baby sock.

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yeh but I measured this whilst in the extender, but yeah you're right, its not so much the baby socks etc that I think would solve the problem, more that I find it hard to wear underneath even loose fitting clothing, I just feel personally that I would like to try another way to apply tension to my penis with hanging. There's no doubt you're device works, i've been adding bars, and i know if I continued using it I would gain. But I have to constantly think about it at work, even on a lower tension, it gets in the way a bit. Could you still offer me a refund for the product? thanks for your time

LIGHTNING;548290 said:

Are you incorporating any manual Penis Enlargement with it?

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yes rotary stretches, 30 sec clock wise and counter clockwise, whenever I take it off, nothing too serious, like 30 mins a day but a bit

CherryCoke;548288 said:

I agree the request for male extra pill bottle, and those disposable additions is unreasonable. But honestly, you are better off keeping it. You can sell it on ebay for close to retail value, about 300 dollars is the going rate for the ultimate edition which is a fair return. Or you can list it for sale here, which will yield a lower profit but a faster sale. I think sizegenetics has to be pretty strict with their refund policy since it is a medical device, and some guys dont really keep their downstairs managed well. (Not saying you are one of those guys, just an insight)

Mind if I ask why you don't just hang on to it? You logged 400 hours, why turn back now. I feel like its similar to eating healthy for 6 months and then saying well i only lost some of my weight. Keep going!

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I guess I lost motivation a bit for this device, when my erect length/erection quality didn't improve. I want to try something new with the grip system, I think it will be the motivator I need to get me back into stretching. On a side note i'm using the penomet now for 3 weeks or so and i'm noticing gains, up to .75 inch length increase inside the tube, and I gain .5-.75 inches girth when i'm done, with minimal fluid retention. My dick looks longer when erect, 24 hours after pumping. however it could be cementing those stretched gains from the sg as dld said, as im doing a lot of expressive stretches in the tube.

I don't want to step out of line here but from what you stated I feel that you are not entitled to a refund at all.. You purchased a product and it is working.. You used it for 400 hours (a long time) and all of a sudden say that it is uncomfortable and you cannot wear it under clothing.. How did you wear it for those 400 hours? In your most recent post you stated that you "want to try something new with the grip system".. Just because you become bored with a method does not mean that it should become free and it certainly doesn't mean that you can "exchange" it for another product at no cost to continue gaining. When you get the grip system will you want to refund that in a few months too when a different product catches your eye? This is like going to a high-end restaurant, ordering the best thing on the menu, eating it while enjoying it and get your nourisHydromaxent, then tell the waiter that you want a refund after your plate is clean because you are no longer hungry.. It just doesn't make sense. You need to continue putting the time in and complete the process.. You are already 1/2 way through the process.. Flaccid gains first / erect gains 2nd / you just have to be patient and wait for it to happen.

ironghost;548378 said:

I don't want to step out of line here but from what you stated I feel that you are not entitled to a refund at all.. You purchased a product and it is working.. You used it for 400 hours (a long time) and all of a sudden say that it is uncomfortable and you cannot wear it under clothing.. How did you wear it for those 400 hours? In your most recent post you stated that you "want to try something new with the grip system".. Just because you become bored with a method does not mean that it should become free and it certainly doesn't mean that you can "exchange" it for another product at no cost to continue gaining. When you get the grip system will you want to refund that in a few months too when a different product catches your eye? This is like going to a high-end restaurant, ordering the best thing on the menu, eating it while enjoying it and get your nourisHydromaxent, then tell the waiter that you want a refund after your plate is clean because you are no longer hungry.. It just doesn't make sense. You need to continue putting the time in and complete the process.. You are already 1/2 way through the process.. Flaccid gains first / erect gains 2nd / you just have to be patient and wait for it to happen.

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I can see how you would say that. But if you read my comments closer, you would see that the device does not fit with my job or me, Even on a lower tension it cuts off sensitivty, limits, my mobility in that I can't bend over, and I can only wear it for up to an hour. when I start to notice a little bit of pain, I know that it will be extremely pain to take it off. So I have to take it off before, I notice even the slightest pain. I go to the bathroom take it off, bite my hand as fucking pain from the blood rushing back into my dick starts to come. Then I notice that my perfectly wrapped bandage has started to slip over my glans. So I start unwrapping it, restore blood flow to my penis, then put some more baby powder on, and slowly re-wrap it to get the perfect wrap again, because I know that if the wrap is not perfect, it will slip, shortly after, or will be uncomfortable. Sometimes, it takes a couple of times to get the wrap perfect. once I finally do I have to refsten the device, although now with 400 hours of use the velcro on the velcro strap is coming off, so it slips right after I put it on and fucks up my wrap, so I re-wrap it, and try to get it stay better with the strap. all that usually takes 15-20 minutes. And I have to do it every hour or so. After 4+ months it get's tiring, and with no changes in erect length or flaccid length. Yes my erect length is 15 cm and when I started I was stretching at that, Now Inside, the extender towards the end of the day of stretching i'm close 17.5cm. My penis looks no different, its more stretchy sure. If I'm at home its fine but at work usually my boss will be giving me shit as to why i've been in there so long.

The bottom line in response to your comment, is ITS A FUCKING PAIN IN THE ARSE TO USE. Thats why I want a refund and I saw no results, my penis stretches more, but is not any bigger, volume wise, length wise, girth wise. I did not get "bored" with it, I just did not see any results in erect length. Its mentally tiring using this fucking thing, wrapping and re-wrapping, and restoring blood flow, and pain the fucking pain. The reason I want to use another device, is because, its a completely different design, a design which would be much more effective and comfortable for applying traction to your penis. How I wore it for 400 hours with all this trouble? It was not easy, but the idea of having a bigger penis can be a very very powerful motivator. I'm sure we all understand that, but when that motivator start to fade. Then what? you realise your putting yourself through, pain, not being able to move comfortably, and financial loss, and getting shit from your boss for being in the bathroom all the time for nothing. hope that sheds some light on all this.

Keep at it bro. I read the comments here, and some people are telling you that you do not deserve a refund. I personally am a strong believer in "I am always right" so I agree with you, however I also agree that it is a medical device and used on a mans dick, I would not want to refund someone who used it for 400 hours and saw results either. None of that is important though man, the bottom line is you are getting results. With SizeGenetic and Penomet, Shit dude most guys would kill to have both. You can create your own routine with them, incorporate some manual exercises and you will have a better opportunity at gains than most guys.

Congratulations on your gains so far. Stick to it, and create a progress log here on the forums. Youll get a lot of feedback and support, make some friends, more importantly grow your dick, and perhaps just as important, inspire others to the same.