PE and the bodybuilding perspective

Hey there ~ first post here so bear with me. I've been doing PE and in touch with DLD for at least 6 months so I consider myself a newbie, always learning. I love the body and how it works. Through the newbie program and SRT on / off I have definitely seen gains, and hope to help others realize this IS possible. Now. The good stuff.

In bodybuilding there are different types of exercises. Some of these are dynamic , some eccentric, some isometric. In the shower after PE length work.. I got to thinking. How can this apply to what we are doing here? I'll add more to this post, I've been experimenting with something I've been bouncing off DLD. Talk soon.

AboveAvgAries;702283 said:

Hey there ~ first post here so bear with me. I've been doing PE and in touch with DLD for at least 6 months so I consider myself a newbie, always learning. I love the body and how it works. Through the newbie program and SRT on / off I have definitely seen gains, and hope to help others realize this IS possible. Now. The good stuff.

In bodybuilding there are different types of exercises. Some of these are dynamic , some eccentric, some isometric. In the shower after PE length work.. I got to thinking. How can this apply to what we are doing here? I'll add more to this post, I've been experimenting with something I've been bouncing off DLD. Talk soon.

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Definitely correlations between the two. I have incorporated super-sets into many of my routines. I have also came out with Penis Isometrics and the DLD Pulse 110, both use bodybuilding premisses. I look forward to you contribution in this area. Nothing better than training the penis and body together! I have spent the last year on weight loss and exercise and it feels so good to first see how nice y body is looking (I lost 60 pounds) and how much my fat pad reduced. It was about 2" now I am under and inch. So I wish you well taking on this project!

OP, I'm a former Semi-Pro bodybuilder. Not very advanced in PE, but after realizing how ignorant it was for me to sculpt my bod, and nothing for penis, decided to apply what I know in bodybuilding to this. Best I can do is give advice as to what to eat, supplements to take, and rest. Others here know PE inside and out, and seem to be able to train daily, where if I do that (I guess I train intensely), I'll suffer the consequences. Perfect example, I had over trained (very real condition!) several weeks ago, and lost almost an inch of length (was actually due to poor erection quality from overtraining, IMO.) I took ten days off, and am back to PE with good erection quality, and length is back.
What I AM doing now is, applying what I know about hypertrophy, and am applying that to "the lizard." I'll post what works for me, and what doesn't, and hope to be helpful. Have a goal of 10.5" EL, and was 8.2" last time I measured. Was quite a shock when I put the tape measure down there when I over trained, and saw it reading damn near an inch less than when I started, so I'm going to be applying what I know about muscle growth down there. When I think about it, I NEVER hit the gym again to train the same muscle group if it's not COMPLETELY recovered from the last training session. I don't think the penis is that much different, but again, others here can train daily, and get results. When my gf (whatever she is. Fwb I guess...), made a comment about me not "bottoming out" as deeply as previously, that's when I stopped everything, took the break, consumed a ton of aminos, and rested. Hope to help with bodybuilding advice, but for PE advice, it's always best to stick with what seems to be working for the masses here. For some reason, I just can't train penile tissue with intensity, or I'll atrophy. I gain ok, but that's after remembering that I barely even jelqued three times a week when I went from 7.1" to 8.2". Took three years to do that as well! So again, I'm not the authority on PE. For bodybuilding, yes, I know the stuff in and out, backwards and forwards. Used to charge anywhere from $3,500-$5,000 to get a person from twelve weeks out, all the way up to stage.

doublelongdaddy;702322 said:

Definitely correlations between the two. I have incorporated super-sets into many of my routines. I have also came out with Penis Isometrics and the DLD Pulse 110, both use bodybuilding premisses. I look forward to you contribution in this area. Nothing better than training the penis and body together! I have spent the last year on weight loss and exercise and it feels so good to first see how nice y body is looking (I lost 60 pounds) and how much my fat pad reduced. It was about 2" now I am under and inch. So I wish you well taking on this project!

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Damn! 60lbs is amazing! Great job! Your heart carries blood and oxygen much better now, and guarantee erection quality is better with that amount of fat loss. Outstanding! Bye, if you want to "feel" the difference in where you were before, to where you are now, carry 60lbs up and down a flight of stairs about four times. Guarantee you'll realize just how far you've come with the fat loss at that point! Again, great job! Body fat is such a disgusting thing, I was once 21% body fat, and yes, I disliked myself a great deal. These days, I'll stay around 8%, abs showing well. When three weeks away from going to the beach, or something else I can plan for, I'll drop back to around 5%. When I take off my shirt, people around me stare, and some gasp for air. Is kinda cool. Lol! I constantly get the small penis from steroids comments from the old club that believes that old shit government propaganda, and if I can get away with it, I'll usually ask the girl with me if its ok for me to approach whomever girl(s) made the comment, and show them that eight inches isn't exactly what I'd consider a small penis. I truly love that moment every single time, and wish I could video the next time that happens so I can catch their shock on video. Lol! Maybe I'll tell them, "yes baby, I inject all my steroids right here." Omg Lol! Sorry for the rant, but people who make negative comments like the small dick steroids thing are crabs in a bucket, and I love crushing them. Lol! I read somewhere here that you're almost eleven inches, and damn, I'd love to see you ripped to shreds, a massive V-shape, and a steroid comment made by a group of crabs in a bucket! I truly can't imagine their responses when you'd drop eleven inches out for them to see, and say, "yep, baby. Them steroids sure are something aren't they!" Lol!!!!!

From what I understand the muscles are different, penis is smooth muscle while the rest like biceps and chest muscles are skeletal. But thats not to say to fatigue the muscles you can't use forms of training like in bodybuilding or powerlifting or any in the mix.

kyomoto;702351 said:

From what I understand the muscles are different, penis is smooth muscle while the rest like biceps and chest muscles are skeletal. But thats not to say to fatigue the muscles you can't use forms of training like in bodybuilding or powerlifting or any in the mix.

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Agreed. I'm always asked how I train with weights, and I'll let it be known that its all about lifting heavier weights each time, period, end of story. By that, I mean, finding an average 8-12 rep "zone" where for example, a person curls 65lb Dumbbells for eight reps one week; the next week they get to eight reps, think they're going to die, but with good form, get nine reps. When they can get twelve reps (biceps on fire, and about to burst on last rep), of 65lb Dumbell curls, I tell them to add a 1.5lb magnet on each Dumbell and get eight reps; then the next week, get nine reps, and so forth.

Very small amounts of weight are constantly added, then before long, they're curling 75lb Dumbbells for twelve, etc.,

And if eating correctly, and allowing the muscle to FULLY recover from the last pounding, the muscle is now larger because it has to grow under this scenario. The muscle has no choice but to grow, or break (tear). Of course, injury is rare when:
flawless form (technique), is used
the constantly added weight is added in very small increments
the muscle gets time to fully recover from the last training session
the right nutrients are continuously flowing through the bloodstream

As of recent, I'm incorporating the above to PE. The tough part has been applying the "right amount" of increasing tension each time. Some days have caught myself using way more tension and force than the previous session, and that would be akin to me wanting to go from curling 75lb Dumbbells for twelve, to 90lbs the very next training session. Results of that could be injury, and atrophy. Seems that when I use too much tension, plus do PE too often, I can wind up with the penile version of an over trained muscle that's temporarily smaller, and less strength. I Hope that makes sense.

Devildog0311;702408 said:

Agreed. I'm always asked how I train with weights, and I'll let it be known that its all about lifting heavier weights each time, period, end of story. By that, I mean, finding an average 8-12 rep "zone" where for example, a person curls 65lb Dumbbells for eight reps one week; the next week they get to eight reps, think they're going to die, but with good form, get nine reps. When they can get twelve reps (biceps on fire, and about to burst on last rep), of 65lb Dumbell curls, I tell them to add a 1.5lb magnet on each Dumbell and get eight reps; then the next week, get nine reps, and so forth.

Very small amounts of weight are constantly added, then before long, they're curling 75lb Dumbbells for twelve, etc.,

And if eating correctly, and allowing the muscle to FULLY recover from the last pounding, the muscle is now larger because it has to grow under this scenario. The muscle has no choice but to grow, or break (tear). Of course, injury is rare when:
flawless form (technique), is used
the constantly added weight is added in very small increments
the muscle gets time to fully recover from the last training session
the right nutrients are continuously flowing through the bloodstream

As of recent, I'm incorporating the above to PE. The tough part has been applying the "right amount" of increasing tension each time. Some days have caught myself using way more tension and force than the previous session, and that would be akin to me wanting to go from curling 75lb Dumbbells for twelve, to 90lbs the very next training session. Results of that could be injury, and atrophy. Seems that when I use too much tension, plus do PE too often, I can wind up with the penile version of an over trained muscle that's temporarily smaller, and less strength. I Hope that makes sense.

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There's a method to just add weight at certain periods where you feel you can go up in weight. It's called hanging. Where you hang weights from your penis to lengthen it. And you can increase over time in order to achieve more gains.

Take a look at this thread about hanging: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-article-submission/85753-progressive-weight-hanging-explained-in-detail.html

kyomoto;702414 said:

There's a method to just add weight at certain periods where you feel you can go up in weight. It's called hanging. Where you hang weights from your penis to lengthen it. And you can increase over time in order to achieve more gains.

Take a look at this thread about hanging: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-article-submission/85753-progressive-weight-hanging-explained-in-detail.html

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Thanks for the post. Is almost a reverse of the ever-increasing weight and reps system I posted above, so yes, no question, penile tissue is different dee Never done hanging before. Watched the video clip, and liked the "device" he was using. Would you recommend doing kegels during hang sets? He didn't mention anything about that. As for fatigue, I've noticed it affects my sex life, meaning I'll often times need a Viagra due to the fatigue. Good article! Will bookmark it for later use.

Devildog0311;702420 said:

Thanks for the post. Is almost a reverse of the ever-increasing weight and reps system I posted above, so yes, no question, penile tissue is different dee Never done hanging before. Watched the video clip, and liked the "device" he was using. Would you recommend doing kegels during hang sets? He didn't mention anything about that. As for fatigue, I've noticed it affects my sex life, meaning I'll often times need a Viagra due to the fatigue. Good article! Will bookmark it for later use.

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Kegels are recommended during any stretching. It's for bloodflow and so your dick wont get cold. Yes it's recommended.

kyomoto;702429 said:

Kegels are recommended during any stretching. It's for bloodflow and so your dick wont get cold. Yes it's recommended.

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Well actually, reverse kegels are what you want to use when stretching. The only time we use kegels as party of a stretch routine is to pre-fatigue the penis to allow for better stretching as seen in DLD Blasters. Reverse Kegels allow the penis to be free of the pelvic floor muscles and their hold back allowing for stretching with no interference.

doublelongdaddy;702520 said:

Well actually, reverse kegels are what you want to use when stretching. The only time we use kegels as party of a stretch routine is to pre-fatigue the penis to allow for better stretching as seen in DLD Blasters. Reverse Kegels allow the penis to be free of the pelvic floor muscles and their hold back allowing for stretching with no interference.

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Well i think both should be used, so that there is some blood flowing. But if you want the deeper stretch you go with reverse kegels

Love the replies here, and I'll try to get some illustrations for what I'm working on, but basically I did the newbie routine and started SRT ... I was always told the best gauge for how someone is doing is to ask their significant other. Anyone can say that they are doing great, or that they're doing this and that told the best gauge for how someone is doing is to ask their significant other. Anyone can say that they are doing great, or that they're doing this and that ... When she sent me a text saying that she noticed my Junk was getting bigger and I could go longer, at that point the proof is in the pudding for me. And DLD saw that text.

Now. On to some intense stretches. I always liked the feeling that the bundled stretches gave me, but there is a limiting factor with all of that. Arm strength ... For me at least grip and arm strength always seemed to fatigue before I knew I had reached what I would call a maximum stretch... So I found something that can give more consistency and definitely a way more intense stretch.. Follow this. ( simple version ). Shower at the gym. Stainless steel grab rails at hip height, after stretching, I started doing this "leaning" stretch. Stand facing the wall/ bar. Cock ring over the tip only, place the penis over the bar and grab the ring with your left hand (anchor point) both hands on the bar, both thumbs over the penis to hold firmly. Lean back slowly. You will feel the burn. Lol. The weight of your body will exceed what you can do with your forearm. Thoughts? Feedback? Ps. The pump I use is a cheap one. Need a bathmate!

Thanks for all the replies, open to suggestions as well

Other interesting and side topics that go along with this are creatine, and pre-workout Any experience? Still waiting for my long post to be approved so sit tight

AboveAvgAries;702615 said:

Love the replies here, and I'll try to get some illustrations for what I'm working on, but basically I did the newbie routine and started SRT ... I was always told the best gauge for how someone is doing is to ask their significant other. Anyone can say that they are doing great, or that they're doing this and that told the best gauge for how someone is doing is to ask their significant other. Anyone can say that they are doing great, or that they're doing this and that ... When she sent me a text saying that she noticed my Junk was getting bigger and I could go longer, at that point the proof is in the pudding for me. And DLD saw that text.

Now. On to some intense stretches. I always liked the feeling that the bundled stretches gave me, but there is a limiting factor with all of that. Arm strength ... For me at least grip and arm strength always seemed to fatigue before I knew I had reached what I would call a maximum stretch... So I found something that can give more consistency and definitely a way more intense stretch.. Follow this. ( simple version ). Shower at the gym. Stainless steel grab rails at hip height, after stretching, I started doing this "leaning" stretch. Stand facing the wall/ bar. Cock ring over the tip only, place the penis over the bar and grab the ring with your left hand (anchor point) both hands on the bar, both thumbs over the penis to hold firmly. Lean back slowly. You will feel the burn. Lol. The weight of your body will exceed what you can do with your forearm. Thoughts? Feedback? Ps. The pump I use is a cheap one. Need a bathmate!

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Love your post and you touched on some good points. I am very glad you have started SRT as this will bring gains so much faster for you. The fatigue and strength issues is easily fixed, get a LengthMaster, no slippage, only pure stretch using two hands on the LM handlebars. You have to get one! It has so many uses in PE.

AboveAvgAries;702619 said:

Other interesting and side topics that go along with this are creatine, and pre-workout Any experience? Still waiting for my long post to be approved so sit tight

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I've never noticed penile growth with creatine.

AboveAvgAries;702619 said:

Other interesting and side topics that go along with this are creatine, and pre-workout Any experience? Still waiting for my long post to be approved so sit tight

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Nope. No supplements for bodybuilding have helped me before.

kyomoto;702673 said:

Nope. No supplements for bodybuilding have helped me before.

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For me 2 things worked; Red Hot and Gainers Fuel. These supplements really helped me gain a lot of muscle.

doublelongdaddy;702720 said:

For me 2 things worked; Red Hot and Gainers Fuel. These supplements really helped me gain a lot of muscle.

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Oh. Well I was referring help me in PE haha. :cool:

The stretch I have been working on is pretty simple and I believe it falls along the isometric exercise category. follow this: shower at the gym, stainless steel handrail at hip height (sanitary)... follow this: shower at the gym, stainless steel handrail at hip height After bundled stretches, with a large cock ring, place penis over the bar. Put ring over the head, and pull with left forefinger under the bar to anchor the head. Hold rail with BOTH hands, and also anchor head with right thumb. Lean back slowly and feel that burn. I am no PE expert, but the weight of your body will be greater than what you can exert with your forearm.