Multiple Angle Stretches and Length Only

It's only been recently that I retested my LOT to see if I could get back to LIG work, and I actually tested higher than I ever have before. For the past few moonths I've been working on Tunica length, meaning I worked only at higher angles with baic stretches and progressed into more intense stretches like bundled stretches, a-stretches at higher angles, and bundled a-stretches. I ADS around the waist after every session and this has aided TREMENDOUSLY in my gains and my flaccid size.

I tested my lot at 9-10 o'clock and I've noticed that my ligs are now "tight" in relation to how loose they felt a few months ago. Currently I'm still working on tunica lenght, but I've also started to work at lower angles to hit the ligs, even if lightly in comparison to the tunica work. I still ADS around the waist, but am considering a day or two a week to ADS down the leg. What I've noticed with a multiple angle approach is that I still have my area of focus but with this extra variety my sessions aren't as difficult on me mentally, but most importantly I'm seeing improvements in FSL almost every session. (If you're wondering I use my belly button as a reference point) I seem to be hanging longer when flaccid, with little turtling after I take off the ADS for an hour or two, and I'm progressing using this new scheme.

Multipl Angle Training is fairly simple. You spend a MAJORITY of your time at one angle while working in two to three other angles that will target the same aspect of the penis or a different portion. I use a SO tunica stretch as my primary work and I work in a bundle stretch SU to also target the tunica as well. My last set of stretches is a SD/BTC stretch focused on pulling the ligs out and away from the base of the pubic bone. I actualy rotate all three angles throughout the session which I've found allows for my hands to recover in between the stretches as a SU stretch is not as intense as a bundled a-stretch. I'm going to keep working this for a month and see if I continue to improve. I think this is something for everyone to consider, simple because if you have a weaknes you can make it a focal point, but you can also attack other limiting factors in the same session which will hopefully keep the gains coming.

Another point that I've considered strongly recently is to work length and then work girth. I've tried this before but at the time I wasn't ADSing and I hadn't really mastered hanging SO at the time, so it proved to be fairly unproductive. This time I can say that I've only hit girth sparingly over the last month and I can say that I've gained over .25" in FSL and I'm making progress each and every session. I think with a singular focus you can be more deidcated to each session and work hard, but also that you'll be allowing the penis to grow in ONE direction. BIB thought it was possible to do too much work on length and girth and grow a stronger matrix of tissue instead of growing new tissue. I thought this was a bit ridiculous, but as of recently with my lack of time for girth work I've noticed that my gains keep on coming. I've recently revisited those threads that he posted long ago, and he makes great sense. I've found that the idea of working on one aspect is much more efficient than trying to do both at once, whether it's from having more rest time or from only healing in one direction (which length work causes a thinning of the matrix of the CC) it's the most effective methodology I've found since I've been around Penis Enlargement.

This is interesting a lot of people have said the LOT is bullshit just a theory ! Iv nevered heard no one report there LOT go up other then BIB. So I never really took much notice ! So youre LOT went up but did you gained any length other then flaccid ? How many months did it take ? How long were the stretching session? did you do daily splits? I tested my LOT and it 6 hence why my length gains have slowed all most stopped . I pump and jelq never really been a stretcher as I find it hard to stretch because of my foreskin ! Have you got a log of your stretching you been hitting the Tunica with? What kind of ADS have you been using? You said you its better to pick one and focus on it. I no with the jelq you can gain both length and grith did you stop jelqing? Sorry about all the question but your post has really got me curious !

Hmmm...well I've been working on Tunica length for a while. I had actually stopped stretching all together. I use the LOT theory essentially to help me find my tightest spots. Where I lost tugback is where I feel the tightest. I've noticed that my ligs aren't taking the same amount of load they were a few months ago, because I pretty much hung straight down. Now I have a bit more out than down. I feel large amounts of tension in the ligs when I stretch BTC or SD.

With Tunica stretches I'd say stick with SO and higher angles in the basic stretch and then possibly move to something like a bundled stretch. For an ADS I use the vac-extender from autoextender.com, and it's the best purchase I've ever made. Pumping hasn't really done much for me in the length department, and for some men it doesn't really do anything for length. I'd say if you really want length then you can stretch in the morning and ADS and then have a light pumping session to get a nice relaxing erect stretch in. What do you think?

My LOT went up after I focused on the tunica for a while. I don't know how anyone with any understanding of the physiology could call LOT theory bullshit... it's pretty obvious what's happening if you just look at a diagram. When your exit point starts changing along with your LOT, you'll be convinced completely.

In any case, good work on hitting your tunica. Don't listen to anyone who says the septum is too hard to stretch, it's not that much worse than the ligs (and the ligs are easy). Keep on keeping on.

If you're LOT were to raise without gains, it would just mean you were measuring perpindicular to the pubic bone.

I've used LOT as my primary guide to what angle I should stretch at since I've been at Penis Enlargement. I've gained nearly 2 inches in length in that time frame. I've recently gone back to manual stretching after not doing any length work for months, and to add to this I started to ADS. This has kick started progress for me but the entire time I've been doing manuals this time I've worked on tunica stretching. That it, up until the last 2 weeks when I've gone to doing SOME lig stretches. It's been very beneficial for me to use LOT as my guide, and I don't really understand where this "uprising" against the LOT theory has come from.

spinner2 said:

When your exit point starts changing along with your LOT, you'll be convinced completely.

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Its impossible, to rise your exit point! Even when you are hanging 5 years non stop ots, you will never rise your exit point, you can only lower your exit point.
THis is one point that makes me not to believe in the LOT Theory.

millionman said:

I tested my lot at 9-10 o'clock and I've noticed that my ligs are now "tight" in relation to how loose they felt a few months ago.

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Hoy can you feel, that your ligs are tight now.
According to BIB and other experts, you can not palpate if your ligs are tight or not. The only possibilty to get information about the tightness of your ligs, is the LOT test (assuming that this test is true).


Did you perform your ads sessions in an upward angle (tunica work)?

DEX, Palpate? Sorry I know nothing about this new theory, and honestly it doesn't matter one way or the other. I can feel my ligs if they are loose vs. tight. It's a very simple matter of stretching to the furthest point away from the pubic bone and if the ligs are receiving any of the force then they're able to be stretched. For a LONG time my ligs were very loose and I never felt SD or BTC in my ligs, but this only occurred after I spent 3-4 hours a day hanging BTC. After spending some 6+ months working on Tunica stretches my LOT has gone back over 9.

I use the vac-extender in an around the waist configuration with a cock ring, and monkeybar says this targets more of the tunica as it is similar to a v-stretch to the side you have the penis. This has also helped me with turkey neck as the ring restricts the skin as the shaft is pulled out away from the body.

millionman said:

DEX, Palpate? Sorry I know nothing about this new theory, and honestly it doesn't matter one way or the other. I can feel my ligs if they are loose vs. tight. It's a very simple matter of stretching to the furthest point away from the pubic bone and if the ligs are receiving any of the force then they're able to be stretched. For a LONG time my ligs were very loose and I never felt SD or BTC in my ligs, but this only occurred after I spent 3-4 hours a day hanging BTC. After spending some 6+ months working on Tunica stretches my LOT has gone back over 9.

I use the vac-extender in an around the waist configuration with a cock ring, and monkeybar says this targets more of the tunica as it is similar to a v-stretch to the side you have the penis. This has also helped me with turkey neck as the ring restricts the skin as the shaft is pulled out away from the body.

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Its not a new theory, i just said that can not imagine how a person can feel if he has tight or loose ligs. I still dont get it.

Your ads routine and the way you are doing the ads makes a lot of sense to me. I always watched out for an ads system where you can stretch the tunica also and not only the ligs. May be i will also buy the vac extender.

Any stretch isn't going to change much in your exit point. When you stretch flacid your tunica is so much longer than it is when erect that even when stretching straight up your ligs take a lot of the stretch when you are at least a certain LOT, probably 7-8. An LOT of around 7-8 will have pretty much the same exit point as an LOT of 6.

If you do erect work straight up for tunica length you can gain enough to notice a change in exit point.

Spinner, When you say do erect work, do you mean stretching or girth work? I just had to ask for clarification.

Actually, your exit point can change based on the ligament length and inner penis that is pulled out. I've lowered my exit point significantly since I've been involved with Penis Enlargement. It has to have a lower exit point off of the pubic bone as the ligaments extend down, but also as the tunica lengthens it will hang lower.

Yeah, what is often called girth work.

I've never heard anyone refer to it as anyting else. Am I missing something?

Well things like erect pulls wouldn't count as girth work, but you might be able to raise your LOT with them.