I had gains even with NEGATIVE PIs

So guys, I need to share with you my experience on the last months:


I was very enthusiastic about the temporary gains that Bath gave me, I even created this topic


Http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...happened-to-my-dick-very-huge-temp-gains.html


As a guy recommended me there, I decided to follow this 5x5x3 routine, my discouragement came when I noticed that I was having negative PI's such as: brown cock, turtling, no wood in the morning, the only "positive" thing was a remarkable erection (always - making sex or just masturbanting) - so, i spent 2 months in this way ... for my surprise i measure my cock today and i grew 0.3 inches in lenght! I decided not to measure the girth but i am sure that i also grew it.


My question is: If I had only positive PI's, would my gains have been greater? What can I do to reach them?

waleker;730038 said:

So guys, I need to share with you my experience on the last months:


I was very enthusiastic about the temporary gains that Bath gave me, I even created this topic


Http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...happened-to-my-dick-very-huge-temp-gains.html


As a guy recommended me there, I decided to follow this 5x5x3 routine, my discouragement came when I noticed that I was having negative PI's such as: brown cock, turtling, no wood in the morning, the only "positive" thing was a remarkable erection (always - making sex or just masturbanting) - so, i spent 2 months in this way ... for my surprise i measure my cock today and i grew 0.3 inches in lenght! I decided not to measure the girth but i am sure that i also grew it.


My question is: If I had only positive PI's, would my gains have been greater? What can I do to reach them?

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What is a PI? Like 3.14159265359?

Physical Interactions???

present illness??

Positive Indicators, funny jokes Brothers!

I would say keep on going if you feel you're gaining the way you are; if you feel there is a halt in gains, you could add more time to the 5x5x3 regime, as in 7x7x3 for example.
Trust me, even a minute can make a big change, just try to stay clear of the fluid retention.
Or as you wrote about negative Positive Indicators (I hope this is the term you meant), I would be hard put to say would your gains been more if you only had really positive indicators.
I think using the BM, for many men, in the beginning there will be some discoloration (can be counter-attacked with the 5x5x3, but as we're individuals, sometimes the time must be adjusted), turtling also can occur, I find it happens to me from time to time.

I would say to be happy about the gains you've made so far! If you look for more Positive Indicators than the not so pleasant ones, I would suggest very thorough warm-ups and -downs and also stretching before a BM sessions. I feel this will give your penis the idea "oh, it's work out time" and the session should be more pleasant, with lesser amount of negative sides.

To reach more of just positive indicators, try to vary the length of your sessions, do the warm-ups and -downs, stretches and so on.
And be consistent; variation is good (keep your dick guessing), but really aim for daily or bi-daily workouts, depending on results.
I hope I made some sense.

I was only playing but my joke was the best

how can one have 'negative' positive indicators? wouldn't that just be a negative indicator? as Threak would say, I don't mean to be pedantic...

you can prevent the turteling by UJW after your workouts

Big Schwanz Acht;730297 said:

how can one have 'negative' positive indicators? wouldn't that just be a negative indicator? as Threak would say, I don't mean to be pedantic...

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That's what the +/- thing is you'll see sometimes. That one is "positive negative." When it's -/+ it's "negative positive."

If you want to get really technical positive would be the presence of something and negative would be the absence of it. In the psychology field they discuss positive and negative reinforcement. Everyone assumes that positive reinforcement is a reward and negative is a punishment. The assumption is wrong. Positive reinforcement can be a reward or a punishment and negative reinforcement is no reward or punishment.

And that my friends concludes my "useless information for the average person" lecture for today.

To help with turtling I would throw on an ace bandage, an ads silicone sleeve, or a phallosan if you have one. This will keep your penis in an elongated state throughout the day preventing it from turtling and teaching it to stay in an elongated state. And for the morning wood I usually don't even get morning wood anymore, probably only 1 out of 5 mornings. If I'm not mistaken pimping will decrease EQ after a session, bros tell me if I'm right or wrong (I don't own a pump, but want one lol)

eugine8plz;730331 said:

To help with turtling I would throw on an ace bandage, an ads silicone sleeve, or a phallosan if you have one. This will keep your penis in an elongated state throughout the day preventing it from turtling and teaching it to stay in an elongated state. And for the morning wood I usually don't even get morning wood anymore, probably only 1 out of 5 mornings. If I'm not mistaken pimping will decrease EQ after a session, bros tell me if I'm right or wrong (I don't own a pump, but want one lol)

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As scary as turtling is I almost want it to happen. It's the closest I'm going to get to having foreskin and the protection it provides.

I still need to buy a "cock sock" to take the place of foreskin and keep my glans protected. From what I've read if you do it right you can get your glans to the shiny, slick look that uncircumcised men have and restore the sensitivity.

I haven't noticed a decrease in EQ after pumping. I look almost hard when I'm not for a while depending on how intense the session was though. I love my Bathmate and strongly suggest getting one.

eugine8plz;730331 said:

To help with turtling I would throw on an ace bandage, an ads silicone sleeve, or a phallosan if you have one. This will keep your penis in an elongated state throughout the day preventing it from turtling and teaching it to stay in an elongated state. And for the morning wood I usually don't even get morning wood anymore, probably only 1 out of 5 mornings. If I'm not mistaken pimping will decrease EQ after a session, bros tell me if I'm right or wrong (I don't own a pump, but want one lol)

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I would think if you pump until water retention,thats bad. but if you pump for 15 minutes max,preferably 5x5x3 method, you EQ will actually increase and I personally have experienced that

cladre60;730333 said:

As scary as turtling is I almost want it to happen. It's the closest I'm going to get to having foreskin and the protection it provides.

I still need to buy a "cock sock" to take the place of foreskin and keep my glans protected. From what I've read if you do it right you can get your glans to the shiny, slick look that uncircumcised men have and restore the sensitivity.

I haven't noticed a decrease in EQ after pumping. I look almost hard when I'm not for a while depending on how intense the session was though. I love my Bathmate and strongly suggest getting one.

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Turtling is a natural function of the penis to protect it when not in use. The body is an amazing creation and understanding the whys and hows of it's operation can be very enlightening.

doublelongdaddy;730380 said:

Turtling is a natural function of the penis to protect it when not in use. The body is an amazing creation and understanding the whys and hows of it's operation can be very enlightening.

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I never got much turtling, at least that I noticed, until I started PE.

I've spent the past almost 20 years wishing I hadn't been circumsized. It's mutilation and ruins pleasure to where the glans loses a lot of sensitivity. Not cool at all.

I've read up on restoration and how it's not anywhere near as good as the real thing but does provide some protection. I may look into it again but right now I'm more focused on gaining length and girth. One thing at a time

Thanks guys !!

doublelongdaddy;730380 said:

Turtling is a natural function of the penis to protect it when not in use. The body is an amazing creation and understanding the whys and hows of it's operation can be very enlightening.

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hate turtling tough.. nothing more enjoyable than walking whit a long and thick flaccid between the legs:cool:

cladre60;730474 said:

I never got much turtling, at least that I noticed, until I started PE.

I've spent the past almost 20 years wishing I hadn't been circumsized. It's mutilation and ruins pleasure to where the glans loses a lot of sensitivity. Not cool at all.

I've read up on restoration and how it's not anywhere near as good as the real thing but does provide some protection. I may look into it again but right now I'm more focused on gaining length and girth. One thing at a time

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Not at all! General PE with some extra specific efforts will brings back foreskin to whatever degree you desire. I have gained about 1/2 back without doing anything but PE. If a TLC is worked into your routine you can see a return of Foreskin very quickly.

longerdick7+;730504 said:

hate turtling tough.. Nothing more enjoyable than walking whit a long and thick flaccid between the legs:cool:

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ace

doublelongdaddy;730600 said:

Not at all! General PE with some extra specific efforts will brings back foreskin to whatever degree you desire. I have gained about 1/2 back without doing anything but PE. If a TLC is worked into your routine you can see a return of Foreskin very quickly.

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I noticed, especially in the past few weeks, that I can pull more skin over my glans with ease when erect than I could before I started PE. As time goes on I might have to look into a tugger if it really is that easy to get that protection back. It would be heaven to be able to feel the gentle flicking of the tip of a tongue on the glans instead of needing heavier pressure to feel it.

They say with enough foreskin sex is like having the head constantly sliding in to something. It slides into the vagina and when pulling back it slides into the foreskin.

cladre60;730660 said:

I noticed, especially in the past few weeks, that I can pull more skin over my glans with ease when erect than I could before I started PE. As time goes on I might have to look into a tugger if it really is that easy to get that protection back. It would be heaven to be able to feel the gentle flicking of the tip of a tongue on the glans instead of needing heavier pressure to feel it.

They say with enough foreskin sex is like having the head constantly sliding in to something. It slides into the vagina and when pulling back it slides into the foreskin.

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Be SURE to get the TLC for foreskin restoration. The VLC is an attachment for the SizeGenetics or PeniMasterPro.