The Draven

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I have come to realize a truth, that women only care about your penis size.


I am a really great guy, women love me, women ask me out and take me out to dinner and pay for me. I am ladies man I guess you could say, but every woman I have ever been with has cheated on me or dumped me after sex. They tell me how wonderful I am until sex. I know I'm great in bed cause I do everything, I'm a freak and I love to eat out for hours and I love to have sex for hours and hours.

I've tried all the exercises and devices. If you are saying it's in my head, it's not. My penis is 4 inches long and 4 inches girth (circumference) Average penis size is 5.5 inches long and 5.5 inches girth.
 
The Draven;280331 said:
I have come to realize a truth, that women only care about your penis size.


I am a really great guy, women love me, women ask me out and take me out to dinner and pay for me. I am ladies man I guess you could say, but every woman I have ever been with has cheated on me or dumped me after sex. They tell me how wonderful I am until sex. I know I'm great in bed cause I do everything, I'm a freak and I love to eat out for hours and I love to have sex for hours and hours.

I've tried all the exercises and devices. If you are saying it's in my head, it's not. My penis is 4 inches long and 4 inches girth (circumference) Average penis size is 5.5 inches long and 5.5 inches girth.

Actually average girth is a little less than 5 inches, but thats beside the point. No matter what don't become a bitter, scared guy who hates women and other guys because you don't feel you measure up. First of all, sex is great but there is more to life than sex. There is also more to keeping a relationship than sex. Any woman who would cheat on you or leave you because of the size of your dick is a piece of shit person. Maybe you've been going out with the wrong type of girl. I know you've been getting down about your Penis Enlargement results lately, but try to stay positive and stick to a good routine. No matter what don't fuck up the dick you have now trying to get a bigger one. What is your routine now by the way?
 
The Draven;280343 said:
i dont have a routine, pe is fake

Look it's not, you just not doing the right thing, try the extender and the Max vac, Buy a Bib starter the starter is a sure fire way that you will gain with it, I don't see why the same wont happen for you.
 
The Draven;280343 said:
i dont have a routine, pe is fake

Then why do you come to this forum if you really think that. I know for a fact Penis Enlargement is real because my dick keeps getting bigger. I also have put the effort into making it bigger which isn't always easy. I do about 2 hours of jelqing and SSJ's 5 days a week and have just start stretching again for length 30 minutes of "as hard as I can pull" stretches every day. Don't tell me Penis Enlargement is fake, my girlfriend making comments about how my dick is mysteriously growing is proof enough for me, along with the measurements. I wish you luck with everything, and I hope that you will give Penis Enlargement a real try at somepoint.
 
ok if it's not fake then it only works for guys who already have average size or bigger penises. guys who are small can't get bigger with Penis Enlargement.
 
The Draven;280351 said:
ok if it's not fake then it only works for guys who already have average size or bigger penises. guys who are small can't get bigger with Penis Enlargement.

There are guys on this forum that have started at your size and gotten big. You can do it too, you just have to figure out what your doing right and what you're doing wrong. Once you figure out what's right, do it consistantly and for months at a time. Have you tried edging and not cumming while exercising? I know people will argue with me but I find that if I edge every night but only actually cum once or twice a week and still exercise my gains are greater.
 
The Draven;280351 said:
ok if it's not fake then it only works for guys who already have average size or bigger penises. guys who are small can't get bigger with Penis Enlargement.
Check out posts by cguy on here, and yguy on �other forum�. Do a search for all of them. If you do everything you can: manual pe, hanging, ads, injections, surgery, then you can easily get 7x7. You might be able to get even longer with a bit of luck or extra dedication.

Never give in, never give up.
 
The Draven;280331 said:
I have come to realize a truth, that women only care about your penis size.


I know I'm great in bed cause I do everything, I'm a freak and I love to eat out for hours and I love to have sex for hours and hours.

Have you ever considered they don't come back because, they don't want a freak that eats out for hours, and likes to bang away for hours. Dude its about quality not quantity.
 
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I started around 5.5" and am now over 7.5" my wife can vouch for pe'ing. I told her after she finally asked me if i was still in puberty. I laughed and told her yes, then i told her the truth. She looked at me like why, then i reminded her how she likes it. So the bottom line is my goal is to resemble a paper towel role and she knows i'll get there!
Keep a positive attitute this is a long term investment, keep trying different things. You find the right path. Discouragemnet is a natural thing just try to keep at it and always keep in mind it's not gonna make your dick any smaller.
 
Dude, believe me, I started a little bigger than you but man. It's real, I am/was the most skeptical ever. I'm the type that grows (with diligent hard work, tough gainer) and will try and say it was measuring error or whatever, cu its not noticeable to your eyes since u see ur dick every day (every few hours as a devout Penis Enlargementr ;)

I can only say it works man, go at it like gang busters, think of all the ways you can pull and expand that thing. You wouldn't believe the inventions I have come up with and still doin for problems I run into. It works man, it's just not easy like anything else (body building, playing an instrument). Takes dedication and sometimes u will ask yourself if its worth it? The choice is yours.
 
The Draven;280351 said:
ok if it's not fake then it only works for guys who already have average size or bigger penises. guys who are small can't get bigger with Penis Enlargement.

You should talk to gashking. He started off at a similar size and has experienced good gains. At the same time, him and his wife go have been swinging for years, so even though his wife had cocks bigger than his they seem to have a great relationship, even before Penis Enlargement I would assume.
 
The Draven;280351 said:
ok if it's not fake then it only works for guys who already have average size or bigger penises. guys who are small can't get bigger with Penis Enlargement.


I know a guy, an Aussie, at T's, who went from 4.5" to 6.5"--in six to nine months' time. It can be done.
 
It's starts with a positive mindset and The Draven has been struggling with it menality for over a year now. Gashking would be a great mentor and should let him know what it took to get his Neuropsychology jump started towards gaining.
 
Personally, I feel it's hard for us people without a small penis to give any real advice on this issue, at least those who started at at least an average size. Why I do agree and can attest to myself, even though a guy may be average, he might have more problems with it than a smaller guy who has accepted his size. However, all things being equal, I don't think we can honestly give naturally small guys much shit about "how it doesn't matter."

First of all, us members who were born with average or bigger penises aren't going to encounter the same type of pressure as small guys do. There is a lot of bad press out there, etc, that does cause worry to those who are "lacking" (according to society) in the penis size department. It creates a whipping boy image in which people can easily get into and make fun of without feeling bad by hurting their feelings, kind of like laughing at someone because they are black, people with mental handicaps, old people (although much more tolerated). However, while society has a sort of "filter" in for the racist and other prejudiced feelings, it does not have a "filter" for people with small penises. They can be openly ridiculed and everyone can participate without feeling any remorse. I've seen guys in the high school locker room made to feel like shit because they had a small flaccid penis. I never participated in any of it, but I couldn't image what pain and HELL those people being picked on were going through everyday, every time they saw themselves in the mirror, or every time they looked down. Another good example of a societal "filter" is with fat women vs small-penis'd men, you most likely won't ever straight-up in public (group setting that is sober) call a girl fat in front of her face and laugh, whereas I have seen this happen openly with guys, mostly with the guy not actually there to hear it though.

I admit that I'd handle my life somewhat differently if I were born with a small penis. By how much? I have not a clue. But it'd definitely be something I was MUCH more concerned about if I did have a small penis. When it came to sex I probably would be a great deal more scared about what she though, whereas now I could literally say with absolute confidence, if a girl ever complained, that "your pussy is broken if you didn't come from this dick." Of course I wouldn't be that pompous to believe that just ramming my dick in there will make her come, but I would brush it off my shoulder like it wasn't ever even there. A man with a small penis can't do this unless he REALLY has some frame control.

The best advice I could give to anyone out there who is small, if you're not TRULY happy with it, give newbie Penis Enlargement a shot and build from there, while working on your mental issues through several methods: meditation, some sort of counseling (a Penis Enlargement board is great, like this thread), or getting new hobbies (it makes you a more interesting, well rounded person).

The small members here get some immediate respect from me, because I won't ever have to potentially go through what they may potentially be going through.
 
You have already failed and there is no changing that through our reassurance. If you want to settle for the size you are and want to live in a personal pity party then do so. If you choose to change things for yourself then buckle down and train. I have met men, personally, who have gone from 4" to 6", these men believed Penis Enlargement was possible and they dedicated themselves to making it happen. If you do not believe Penis Enlargement is possible then you will NEVER GAIN! A small penis sucks, BOO-FUCKING-HOO..., making it bigger rocks. If I sat around accepting my size and a half inch penis forever I would have never realized my double digit member. Become a part of your desires! Do not allow a number to dictate the advancements you are able to make.

DLD
 
Camel;280374 said:
Have you ever considered they don't come back because, they don't want a freak that eats out for hours, and likes to bang away for hours. Dude its about quality not quantity.

Hmm,some do like quantity 2.Theres alot of women that are freaks as well LMAO
 
I can understand you man. Some time ago I was ready even to end my life due to my penis size (5.5) wich always made me feel insecure. The guy sin this forum gave me great advice and support.
I decided I would just give DLD newbie routine a shot and it turn out that Im almost 5.8 long now in about 3 months more or less, while being pretty inconsistent due to the lack of time because of my studies, yet I wont stop till Im 7 inches long even if it takes me two years. keep a positive attitude dude and just give it a try.
 
The Draven;280343 said:
i dont have a routine, pe is fake

Six months from now, you can have a larger penis, or you can stay the same size and continue wallowing in your self pity. There's obvioulsy a part of you that believes that Penis Enlargement is real or you wouldn't be her. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and get started on a good, simple Penis Enlargement program. There's plenty of free advice on this forum!
 
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