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Does anyone have any experience with the use of Yohimbe bark compounds, or Yohimbine Rx drug use for the enhancement of erections, or the enhancement of libido, or the improvement of results from penis enlargement exercises?

I have some limited experience with all 3 things. I have used both compounds along with each of the erection enhancing compounds, Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra. I have used Yohimbine Rx tabs as a regular regimen for libido enhancement. I have had positive results in both erection enhancement and libido increase. I have used Y along with testosterone supplementation and without. I have experience with the side effects of Y bark compounds and with the Y Rx side effects.

Y is the only medically identified and studied compound to show any aphrodisiacal effects, that I have been able to find. I have found it to be beneficial, and I would like to have an exchange of detail info with others that are interested in this topic.

Is anybody interested? Let's talk about it some and see where the discussion leads.
 
This is supplement related so it goes in this forum.
 
I'm not quite sure what you are asking for, but i've used it for a little while. From what I've read the yohimbine ingredient is what to look for. Yohimbe itself won't do anything. I got a bottle from GNC that is standardized and contains 2% yohimbine. It says no more than 1 a day, so I took 2 tablets ;) along with 3-4 grams of l-arginine just before my Penis Enlargement workouts. This was while I was clamping and it was very beneficial in keeping erection strength for about 20 min. Bear in mind that clamping is much more stressful so I don't know how long it would last otherwise. I've never had erection problems in normal activity so I've never used it otherwise.
By the way I would take it about 1\2 hour beforehand.
Side affects were only a runny nose for a short time after I took it. I only used it 3 times a week so I didn't develope any kind of immunity to it.
 
I tried it for 3 days 120mg a day and the effect was crazy. I was horny all the time I HAD to masturbate twice every one of those days and I still went to bed thinking about sex. I've never had problems in bed but being that horny all the time is one of the greatest things ever I love it. So it does work great hopefully that helps.
Also I'd like to know if anyone knows about the negative side effects of Yohimbe, how long to take it for and at what doses.
 
Dear Splack: Please, tell me what brand of Y or what compound of Y you were using at 120mg per day? Was it a GNC brand called Yohumbe Active, that supplies 9mg of Y alkaloid per tab and is about a total of 120mg of bark powdered extract per tab? Did you take more than one of these per day? Surely you don't mean that you took 120mg of pure Yohimbine Rx strength compound per day, do you????? I can't imagine what that much would do to you. I am sure it would do something pretty drastic, like you were describing. Please, let me know. Thanks.

I have used this GNC one in the past and found it to be the best and most powerful available on the general market. I did not particularly like the effects from all the included bark compounds and went to the Rx pure Y tabs to be free from the bark components.
 
Here is the regimen that I have developed for myself, after a lot of research and experimentation. It provides me the hardest, most sensitive, longest lasting and best feeling hardons that I have ever had. I do not recommend this to you, and I do not know whether it is safe for you. If you try this, you should, perhaps, work up to it gradually and see what happens to you as you progress. That is what I did to develope the regimen. Don't hurt yourself. So here it is:

About one hour before activity, workout or any form of sex, take the following combo of things: 3 grams (3000mg) of Arginine, 3 grams (3000mg) of L-Arginine, 2 grams (2000mg) of Lysine, one tab of your favorite erection enhancing drug (Viagra works the very best and for the shortest time), 400 mg of Tagamet ( or generic Cemetidine antacid, not effective with Levitra, only with V and Cialis), 2 tabs of Rx pure Yohimbine (5.4mg per tab)(or one tab of the GNC Yohimbine Active product), 3 capsules of L-Histidine Drink a cup of caffeine drink of some kind, like tea or coffee. It also helps to drink some electrolite kind of sport drink for the nerve sensitivity and functions.

About 15 minutes after you take these things, the side effects will start. They are significant and sometimes unpleasant. You will probably experience the following: Slight fever, red face, red eyes, the blue tinged vision, accelerated heartbeat, a nervous or restless feeling, the start of the stuffy nose and breathing thru your mouth. The stuffy nose may get really tight and you may need to spray your nose with some Afrin nasal spray to clear it enough to breathe thru your nose. I have to do this.

About 45 min. to an hour after you take these things, the side effects will have maxed and started to fade. Your penis will have long since begun to feel ALIVE! and have started to harden spontaneously, and may have a slight buzzing sensation in the head of it. If all has gone according to what happens to me, the hardon will be the very hardest, most sensitive and largest that you have ever had and it will last a long time, if you don't stimulate it too much.

It will take almost nothing to make it shoot off like a rocket. A workout with one of these hardons is an experience in self control like you have never had. You will find a new meaning for the term "edging".

If you have any kind of heart weakness, do not attempt to do this. Your blood pressure will be up by about 20 points and your pulse will be accelerated greatly. You may get chills and you should wear some warm clothes to prevent the chills occuring from the slight fever that this induces.

This is crazy stuff, but I have done it many times and, when I can do it, I always remember it vividly and want to go there again. Different strokes as they say.

If you try any of this, please, let me know how it works out for you.
 
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bubbawand,

That sounds like amazing results.

I'm surprised nobody has commented on it, as the effects sound as they would be incredbily beneficial. Not only for the effects in themselves, but because you would be in the best state for Penis Enlargement.

Did you start on smaller doses and work up to those doses yourself?

Can you suggest what you feel may be safe measurements of those ingedients to start with?
 
Dear Merc: Thanks for the response. I was also wondering why nobody was responding.

Background Stuff: I started out looking for things that would get me back to feeling like I had, when I was a lot younger and could get really hard. I researched a lot, and talked to my urologist a lot, and tried a lot of worthless things in the way of supps, and vitamins etc. I found a lot of info on the internet about various impotency drugs, and all their side effects. I began to try things for myself, and to weed out the things that did not work, and keep the things that seemed to have a beneficial effect and that supported the necessary functions for the penis to perform to the max. I tried all the V, C, and L drugs as they came out, along with caverject and apomorphine. V still works the best, but lasts the shortest time. Finding the Rx Yohimbine was a major advance in my progress, because as you age your ability to produce hardness with blood pressure declines and the Y offsets that, up to a point, but enough to really help with the hardness. I did a lot of reading and research in medical books about the penis and the prostate, and the whole blood and nervous system that operates the penis. I investigated the brain functions that support the libido and the physical penis function, and things that effect those brain functions. After all this work and personal experimentation, I developed the regimen that I have explained in the earlier message posting.

When I started out, yes, I was cautious and used smaller amounts of these things to "sneak" up on the correct amount to produce the effect that I wanted and to learn about the side effects and my body responses to the compounds.

What I learned was this:

The Arginine compounds work almost like, and almost as well, as the V, C or L drugs, however, using them together is much, much better. The A seems to "load" the system for a higher level response, but is not as specific for hardness as the Rx drugs. The A works best as a mix of the normal A and the L-A isomer. It also works best accompanied by Cystine and Glutamine and Taurine, in smaller quantities.

The Tagamet, or generic name Cemetidine, has a wonderfully enhancing effect on the performance of the V and the C drugs, but less so on the C drug. You can check the relative effect by researching the side effects, or drug interaction info, for each of the erection drugs. The best effect for me seemed to come from 400mg, or two 200mg tabs, along with V. I never have had any noticeable side effect from this, except the production of a more intense blue vision side effect from the V. No blue vision with C or L.

As little as 25mg of V will do a very good job, but it does not seem to produce any more side effects or last any longer to take more. All sizes of the V pills cost the same, so buy the 100mg and break them down into pieces for your use. I usually use a 1/2 tab, or 50mg. Likewise, C comes in 40mg tabs and a 1/2 tab is plenty to do the job, so break them in two for use.

A Little caffeine in the system works to further adjust the blood pressure upward and make all the other components work a little better for really hard and long lasting effects.

A little extra dopamine in the system also seems to help. I use Mucuna Pruriens that has about 20% dopamine content and take 2 caps along with the regimen for the extra brain chemical support and libido enhancement.

Each of these regimen components seems to have a certain threshold value that you have to find for yourself. Before reaching that T value, you will have almost no effects, and afteward you will get the effect you want, and if you add more you will not further enhance the effects, but just waste compound and money.

Y is a paradoxical compound. If you take some everyday, you get accustomed to it, and it seems to raise the libido and increase the penis sensitivity some. If you only take it occasionally, it has an immediate marked effect on the blood pressure and the body temperature, very much like Niacin flushing effects. If you use it daily and then add some for the regimen, it still works better, but the immediate response is more muted. It is actually very inexpensive as a Rx drug because it is old and not patented by anyone. The GNC Yohimbine Active supp is the next best, but produces significantly greater flushing, temperature elevation, and nasal congestion.

I am almost 70 age, about 225 lbs., pretty good shape, no heart problems, no vascular problems, normal blood pressure, normal cholesterol measurements. The amounts of each that I included in the regimen are what I use. I have been doing this for about 2 years, and other than the transient side effects, I have had no ill effects from this regimen. It has made a major improvement in my physical performance every time I have done it. It has made a major improvement in my psychological confidence to know that I can perform like a 30 year old, whenever I want to do the regimen. I certainly don't do it everyday, and not for every Penis Enlargement workout. I sort of reserve this for times when I want to have a superior experience from the Penis Enlargement workout or for great feeling sex.

I can't guarantee you anything about the effects you might have, or anything about whether this would be safe for you to do. You will have to find your own best level of all, or any, of these things. If you do find your own best level of them, I believe you will experience something that is pretty good, and better than usual for your Penis Enlargement workouts, and for sex, even it is only with yourself.

All the best to you. I will be happy to answer questions and comment on this some more, if you want me to. B
 
I just want to add something to the info above about my regimen and supplements:

I follow a pretty agressive anti-aging hormone replacement program under supervision of a great doc and clinic in Las Vegas. They do blood draws and consultations every 6 mo. to test the hormone levels and all other health factors. I take thyroid hormone supplementation daily. I take testosterone injections weekly. I take HGH injections daily. All these supps are set at levels to return me to the levels that I had at 35 years of age. This is making a wonderful difference in my life quality, and maybe will give me more longevity, or let me enjoy myself for longer into my old age. So the background levels of stuff in my body to interact with this regimen of sex specific things is at a much higher level than it would be if I did not do these things for myself. Biologically, I am a lot younger man than my age indicates, and so I respond to this regimen like a much younger man would.

Recently, I have been following a hair health program that involves laser scalp treatments and special shampoo, a scalp stimulating hair spray and very strong Saw Palmetto tabs to suppress DHT production in the body. The DHT suppression seems to be helping libido and performance, now that I have been on it for several months. Nothing happened at first.

I have discovered that the scalp stim spray is pervertible. The active ingredient is Aloe Barberensis leaf extract. I tried this on the erection to see whether it produced any noticeable surface stimulation and increased blood flow. The short answer is yes. The longer answer is that it gives a burning sensation in the hair around the base of the penis. But it also gives a very interesting and pleasant effect of heat and sensitivity to the surface of the head and the shaft that seems to me to enhance the feeling of the stimulation occuring during a Penis Enlargement workout or sex. The sensitivity increase is very welcome, to offset the dulling of sensation from the Penis Enlargement manipulations and from age.

Just thought that I would try to further complete this pix for everybody that might be interested. Any questions, I will be happy to discuss this further with you.
 
Wow, you really have been doing your homework on this. Absolutely fascinating and may I be the first to congratulate you on the obvious good health, lust for life and magnificent age.

So how long have you been studying all these health enhancements? I think everyone would be wise to read this as I know alot of the guys here take many of these supplements you mentioned. I alas dont yet but am expecting to get my generic V and C very soon, which should help my girth workouts, and give just that something extra in bed.

Keep up the obvious good work and welcome the forum. By the way how long have you been Penis Enlargementing?
 
Dear Joe: Been on Penis Enlargement for about 3 years, at a low level. I am mostly interested in good condition of the penis, rather than enlargement. I practice the same techniques as the rest of you do, except that I do not do it as strenuously and as aggressively or as often. The idea that I have is to maintain the good circulation and the ready ability to have erections and keep them. I do the Kegels, and now the reverse Kegels each day about 100 times. When I am working out at the gym, I do the Kegels along with each rep of each exercise. It helps the exercise and it helps the PC and PB muscles to stay in shape. Works good.

I started doing the research on the supps about 4 years ago. I was having a lot of prostate related problems and I wanted to clear those up. I was declining in health and mental alertness and I wanted to reverse those trends if I could. Been a long, but interesting and rewarding study and practice. Still going on. I have only recently heard about the TongKat Ali material and I am going to see how that works with what I am already doing and whether it offers anything fot improvement. All the best to you. F
 
bubbawand said:
...About 15 minutes after you take these things, the side effects will start. They are significant and sometimes unpleasant. You will probably experience the following: Slight fever, red face, red eyes, the blue tinged vision, accelerated heartbeat, a nervous or restless feeling, the start of the stuffy nose and breathing thru your mouth. The stuffy nose may get really tight and you may need to spray your nose with some Afrin nasal spray to clear it enough to breathe thru your nose. I have to do this.

About 45 min. to an hour after you take these things, the side effects will have maxed and started to fade. Your penis will have long since begun to feel ALIVE! and have started to harden spontaneously, and may have a slight buzzing sensation in the head of it. If all has gone according to what happens to me, the hardon will be the very hardest, most sensitive and largest that you have ever had and it will last a long time, if you don't stimulate it too much...
You can also get the same side from taking a double dose or too much Viagra/Cialis...

I think you're taking too much stuff for similar effects that most get from a good dose of plain 'ole Viagra/Cialis. I'm not trying to flame, but just wondering if you could get the same or similar results with less.
 
Dear Sikdogg: Well, yes, you can get the same side effects from very high doses of V or C.

The differences are these: The Tagamet is really cheap, only a fraction of the cost of V or C, and increases the effectiveness of V by about 35% and C about 20%. Good economy.

The Yohimbe, and the caffeine, do a great job of offsetting the blood pressure drop from the V or the C, and contibute a good feeling of real hardness to the erection, as well as any libido enhancement that may or may not occur.

The rest of the items are just good supporting nutrition for the body functions that are in play in the erections and libido.

I know this regimen is complicated, and I wish it was simpler and that I could get all this stuff in only one pill, or two. But I can't. Also, if it were combined into one pill, I would not be able to verify the purity, strength and dose of each of the components, to make certain that I was getting what I thought I was getting.

I have tried a lot of combo supps for male function, and they are universally just baloney to sell for money, and did nothing for me that I could measure.

The benefit of recognizable side effects is that you can track what is happening and know that you have gotten what you asked for. I can measure blood pressure for instance, and see the drop from the V or C, and then know that I have corrected it by the application of the Y and caffeine.

I know I am a nut about this stuff, I admit it, but I am having the best time and the best performance of my life on these things--and that is saying a lot for an old guy. All the best to you. B
 
I was talking to my friend about this and she was wondering if these or other things like viagra had similar affects on women such as horniness, more sex drive, etc...
 
Anony said:
I was talking to my friend about this and she was wondering if these or other things like viagra had similar affects on women such as horniness, more sex drive, etc...
Dear Anony: Well, I do not have really extensive experience with the use of these things by women, however, I do have some. I have had my wife take many of these things from time to time and some have produced remarkable improvements in her percieved orgasm intensity and duration. The ones that have worked the best so far are L-Arginine, L-Histidine, Choline, and Phenylalanine. She has had some success with Arginine loaded lotion to be used on the genitals before sex. She has been unwilling to try out V or C, even though the med lit supports the probable effectiveness of these for women as well as men. I am still hopeful that she will try these out and let me know by her responses and what she says whether they seem to improve her experience or not. If I can get anything done further in this direction, I will update this post for you and others.

On another topic, I have ordered Tongkat Ali Extract to experiment with. I have also experimented with Uprima and had some interesting results with it. Upriman did not do anything for me in producing and erection, but it did have an effect of enhancing desire for sex and enhancing the experience. I have only limited experience with Uprima and am not in a position to be very definite about exactly what it does for me in a longer experiment. I have in mind to work some more with Uprima and try to find a complimentary way to use it in my established regimen.

If you try some of these things with your female partner, please, post your results here for the rest of us to see and become better educated on this. Thanks. B
 
jody said:
bubbawand, read this guy:

http://www.sexualenhancement.org/

his personal research on sex drugs is extensive. i've been thinking about trying:

zinc
tongkat ali
dostinex
uprima

here's another site:

http://sexanddrugs.info/


where are you going in vegas? i live in vegas.



I read some of the articles on the first site you linked to.

Very interesting stuff.

Tongat Ali looks to be powerful stuff,..if you get the proper stuff.
I think it's important that you make sure you get the bona fide stuff, at the correct dosage that he mentions, to make sure that anyone thinking of trying it isn't disappointed.

I've been referred to a specialist who is known to prescribe patients with both Yohimbine and Viagra.

I am also hoping that I can find a good supplier of Tongat Ali after a while too, if I can find an affordable source.
But I'll see how the Yohimbine and Viagra works first, and just maybe use Tongat Ali to enhace things further if I wish.

Viagra for the plumbing.
Yohimbine for a combination of the plumbing and neural/nerve enhancement.
And maybe Tongkat Ali for a boost of sex drive and nerve enhancement.

I wouldn't mind knowing if any other people are interested in trying out Tongat Ali as described in the above linked site.

If Tongat Ali is too expensive, maybe if I want to enhance the neural/nerve connection and increase sex drive, I should opt for Dostine(angry)cabergoline) or Uprime.

I hope some people try these things out to see what experiences people here have.
 
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I was reading one of the pages on that site about penis size:
http://www.sexualenhancement.org/sizematters.htm

And from what I read, I'm wondering if Tongat Ali and/or Yohimbine could be used in conjuction with exercies on MOS site to maximum effect.

Here are a couple of exerpts from the text (I hope I am allowed to paste exerpts here)


Tongat Ali

Body builders who use anabolic steroids and thereby shut down the testosterone production in the Leydig cells of their testes will experience a substantial decrease in penis size. Constant use of substances that stimulate Leydig cells, such as tongkat ali, will cause testicular and penile size increases

One has to be aware that working on the tone of the penile tissue by supplying certain chemicals and avoiding others (such as caffeine), no anatomic change will be effected. Anatomic change currently can only be caused by enlargement exercises that stretch cell walls, and by a supplement (tongkat ali) or pharmacological agent (clomiphene citrate, human chorionic gonadotropin) that stimulates Leydig cells.


Yohimbine

Alpha-adrenergic receptor blockers such as yohimbine definitely will cause an increase in size, primarily of the penis (more than of the testes). That size gain lasts exactly as long as one has the yohimbine in one's system, and will be followed by shrinkage the next day. There is no permanent influence on size.




I thought that bit about the effect Tongat Ali has on Leydig cells was very interesting.

And it recommends cutting out coffee, and maybe also tea and chocalate.
I've come across a few articles that say that coffee and cigarettes can affect adrenaline, which is very bad for penis enlargement. And they also mess with dopamine levels in the brain.

Penis Enlargement is effective in normal circumstances. If you can also get the right mixture of hormones and chemicals running around in your system then results may be maximised.

I'm sure I've posted something in this post that isn't quite accurate so if I've got anything wrong, I don't mind if someone corrects me on anything that I may have got wrong.
 
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By the way,...does anyone know where I can buy some of these substances in the UK?

Or can I only order them online?
 
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