e's clamping experiment

ithiel · Aug 25, 2009

Douglas Hamlin;350435 said:
Sorry to object, but I need to clarify a point here...

I work as a personal trainer. I have studied anatomy, biology, physiology, and chemistry. I think its safe to say that I know a little bit about the ins and outs of the human body...

Now... Is the penis striated muscle (skeletal muscle)? No. Which means the tissues that make up the chambers of the penis have no voluntary contractile capabilities (but the PC muscle is, which can help shunt blood into the arteries of the penis). The tissues of the penis are smooth muscle. And any type of muscle tissue can grow once it has been stressed and allowed a recovery, albeit everyone has their specific needs. All types of muscle tissue need periods of lowered intensity/rest to enable positive adaptation (tissue growth, increased cardiac output/strong, lower resting Heart Rate). Likewise, the heart... if you continuously train it intensely without rest, a heart attack would ensue - possible from neuro-muscular failure.

Maybe you should try to take a day off every few days of intense training. In most regards, If you over-train/over-stress the body, it will cease to grow. Several theories exist for this phenomenon... some of these theories indicate a predominance of catabolic hormones that impede protein synthesis (tissue growth).

Just some thoughts...

You do got a point, and maybe it some case you right. But this is after all a experiment. So as you can see, if you been following my routine changes in this experiment I am experimenting with all different kinds of clamping methods. This time around it's a 7 day a week thing.

Douglas Hamlin · Aug 25, 2009

ithiel;350497 said:
You do got a point, and maybe it some case you right. But this is after all a experiment. So as you can see, if you been following my routine changes in this experiment I am experimenting with all different kinds of clamping methods. This time around it's a 7 day a week thing.

For sure. I do understand the nature of your experiments... and I do believe that the frequency/intensity that you have implemented in the past should work (for fuck sake, why not!? lol). And from what I have observe from your feedback is that - for the most part - the intensity remains constant, and the frequencies (how many times/day your train) and durations (the length of each session) are the variables that continue to change from one experiment to the next. What also remains constant is daily activity - no rest.

I truly wish you the best of luck - we could all benefit from your experiments/experiences. But if each new experiment continues to produce little to no gains, try going back to one of them that you like and add a day of rest every 2-3 workouts. See if that works.

Douglas Hamlin · Aug 25, 2009

ithiel;350497 said:
You do got a point, and maybe it some case you right. But this is after all a experiment. So as you can see, if you been following my routine changes in this experiment I am experimenting with all different kinds of clamping methods. This time around it's a 7 day a week thing.

For sure. I do understand the nature of your experiments... and I do believe that the frequency/intensity that you have implemented in the past should work (for fuck sake, why not!? lol). And from what I have observe from your feedback is that - for the most part - the intensity remains constant, and the frequencies (how many times/day your train) and durations (the length of each session) are the variables that continue to change from one experiment to the next. What also remains constant is daily activity - no rest.

I truly wish you the best of luck - we could all benefit from your experiments/experiences. But if each new experiment continues to produce little to no gains, try going back to one of them that you like and add a day of rest every 2-3 workouts. See if that works.

Douglas Hamlin · Aug 25, 2009

ithiel;350497 said:
You do got a point, and maybe it some case you right. But this is after all a experiment. So as you can see, if you been following my routine changes in this experiment I am experimenting with all different kinds of clamping methods. This time around it's a 7 day a week thing.

For sure. I do understand the nature of your experiments... and I do believe that the frequency/intensity that you have implemented in the past should work (for fuck sake, why not!? lol). And from what I have observe from your feedback is that - for the most part - the intensity remains constant, and the frequencies (how many times/day your train) and durations (the length of each session) are the variables that continue to change from one experiment to the next. What also remains constant is daily activity - no rest.

I truly wish you the best of luck - we could all benefit from your experiments/experiences. But if each new experiment continues to produce little to no gains, try going back to one of them that you like and add a day of rest every 2-3 workouts. See if that works.

ithiel · Aug 27, 2009

Douglas Hamlin;350527 said:
For sure. I do understand the nature of your experiments... and I do believe that the frequency/intensity that you have implemented in the past should work (for fuck sake, why not!? lol). And from what I have observe from your feedback is that - for the most part - the intensity remains constant, and the frequencies (how many times/day your train) and durations (the length of each session) are the variables that continue to change from one experiment to the next. What also remains constant is daily activity - no rest.

I truly wish you the best of luck - we could all benefit from your experiments/experiences. But if each new experiment continues to produce little to no gains, try going back to one of them that you like and add a day of rest every 2-3 workouts. See if that works.

Yeah apart from this cycle (previous 2 weeks, next 2 weeks), I been taking off the weekends that is. Mostly because of time. When I was doin the 24/7 clamping that was weekends. This phase theres no days off, so like I think I mentioned I do at least SOMETHING on the most hectic day. Which may be a set or two. I'm averaging about 30-45 minutes of clamping per day so far. Ima try and bump that up a bit in these last couple of weeks but its hard, I'm tryin to do other shit in my life.

But yea, I havent gained shit really thru this whole experiment so far. It's been a good bit too. So you could be right about the whole rest idea. I always had success with "the more you do for length, the more you gain" and I still believe that. Girth is different. Girth is weird.

I been seeing sort of a pattern tho. Seems to me like whenever I begin a new phase, or whatever you wanna call it, I get great temporary gains and pumps but it eventually diminishes. So on that note, this is something that I can take away from this, and work with that. Well see what I gain in a couple of weeks. But at this point, I don't think it will be anything sad to say. The longer it drags, the less expansion I'm seeing.

Douglas Hamlin · Aug 27, 2009

ithiel;350791 said:
Yeah apart from this cycle (previous 2 weeks, next 2 weeks), I been taking off the weekends that is. Mostly because of time. When I was doin the 24/7 clamping that was weekends. This phase theres no days off, so like I think I mentioned I do at least SOMETHING on the most hectic day. Which may be a set or two. I'm averaging about 30-45 minutes of clamping per day so far. Ima try and bump that up a bit in these last couple of weeks but its hard, I'm tryin to do other shit in my life.

But yea, I havent gained shit really thru this whole experiment so far. It's been a good bit too. So you could be right about the whole rest idea. I always had success with "the more you do for length, the more you gain" and I still believe that. Girth is different. Girth is weird.

I been seeing sort of a pattern tho. Seems to me like whenever I begin a new phase, or whatever you wanna call it, I get great temporary gains and pumps but it eventually diminishes. So on that note, this is something that I can take away from this, and work with that. Well see what I gain in a couple of weeks. But at this point, I don't think it will be anything sad to say. The longer it drags, the less expansion I'm seeing.

When you say that you get "great temporary gains and pumps", is it just fluid build up? Or are you actually experiencing larger flaccids/erections?

When I first started experimenting with clamping exercises (cable clamp + jelq/horse squeeze/edging), I instantly gained 1/16 - 1/8". I was stoked, but then after a programmed rest (4 days off), I realized that the larger flaccids/erections were just retained fluid build-up. After the break, I lost most of the girth that I had gained (possibly yielding a net gain of 1/32" - but really, thats kinda splitting hairs IMHO).

So... I decided to try something new. Now, instead of 3 x 10 minute sets, I am experimenting with 4 x 8 minute sets. Logically, this method actually equates to a greater workout because I am experiencing tension for 32 minutes vs. 30 minutes. The shorter sets ensure less fluid build up, which is also effected by the fact that I am NOT jelqing/horse squeezing at 100% (still edge at 100% - which is necessary). Now I clamp + Jelq and clamp + horse squeeze with a 80-95% erection.

Thus far, I have experienced little to no fluid build up within the workout, and no fluid retention post exercise. It is still too early to conclude (1st week), yet I am experiencing 1/16-1/8 prolonged expansion during erections. With any luck, my gains will progress.

ithiel · Sep 13, 2009

No gains on this last phase. I'm puttin a close on the experiment. I aint frustrated, I'm glad because one can never not benefit from this. This was a good run. No gains but it was experimental, the whole point. Would have been nice to see gains but thats cool.

I'm actually still workin on girth but doing other shit, so I'm not putting anything into this experiment. In closing, Ive learned and one can't get enough of that!

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