MFOMNI;534988 said:thanks dld! Yeah I'll try the massage and then look into the surgery if that can't fix it!
TheKing1;604915 said:Shouldnt the double grip be used when jelqing, too?
I feel I have pretty bad turkey neck..something like a picture ive seen in this thread. My balls hang lower than my flaccid penis and myweb comes at least half way up my shaft. Ugh I hate it. And honestly I dont understand HOW the testical health stretch and massage (or even the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]) will help this...If anything, make it worse. Im not sure what the problem is...bad form, not using dual grip during stretching?? Not using while jelqing? expressive stretching (at the base?)??? Or the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] itself??
Dld, would you (or have I looked over it and missed it...) post that video, as im not a member on the site?
TheKing1;605707 said:Im giving this a try...implementing it into my routine so far for about a week. Workin it in. I like the testical massage its pretty therapeutic I just dont see how some of this would work. Like the logic behind it. I guess I see how it could work but seems counterproductive to me. its just like how my initial thought to fix a curve to the right would be to stretch further to the right...it's counter intuitive at least for me. (To fix a curve youd stretch to the opposite, and I thought this would worsen the curve)
Dld, can/did you post that video? Thanks bro
Noone said that, I was just stating its counter intuitive. I would think that stretching to the right would cause more a curve to the right. I understand and know now why thats not how it worksdoublelongdaddy;605816 said:To fix a curve you need to go to the opposite side to make any changes. Where is it said that fixing a curve means stretching in that direction? Whoever posted this was wrong or mistaken. Curves come from two places, either a plaque build up on the shaft or uneven ligaments, in either case to correct the problem you need to stretch and jelq against it.
Simyan;664690 said:Im doing daily testicle stretches to reduce my turkey neck. I have it bad!
doublelongdaddy;665288 said:Also, in addition to the Testicle Health Stretches, always anchor one hand at the base of the penis, holding back skin, as you manually stretch.
Simyan;665346 said:Yes, I do that. It hurts but I'm doing them daily. Also convinced that there is a direct correlation with turkey neck and one's ability to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. I am of the believe that the extra skin helps the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] suck up a nut which is extremely painful and bottle necks my girth work with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words]. I need a looser lower hanging scrotum.
Simyan;665459 said:Interesting thing happened last night. Got high as FUCK off weed, was a bad trip, passed out with my cock ring! [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] till the death of me! I had trained clamping and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] earlier in the day. Needless to say I was swollen as FUCK down there! crazy girth!
Interesting enough today by balls feel a lot looser. Skin seems looser too. I've been stretching hard for a week and I think it's starting to pay off. I think my balls will hang lower and my turkey neck will fuck off!
Simyan;665459 said:Needless to say I was swollen as FUCK down there! crazy girth!
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Simyan;665527 said:I do it. One hand pulls balls down and the other pulls from the shaft?
doublelongdaddy;665728 said:Do you have access to the members site? If you watch any of the basic stretching videos you can see the exact hand position. I will describe for you here; using the standard OK grip at the base as close to the pubic bone as possible, use the upper hand to stretch.
eugine8plz;702933 said:hey DLD, can you add a picture to this thread of how I would go about wrapping my scrotum? I need a visualization to understand a bit more lol if you don't mind of course
Top notch advice.
Hey DLD I tried using a cock ring as an anchor at the base of my shaft while stretching (still doing bare hands... I know I know and ultimately yes I'll invest in a Lengthmaster. ). I noticed that, while the cock ring kept the skin back to some extent, some scrotum still slipped under it.
Am I right in thinking that this isn't good enough? That I should feel the stretch actually in my skin until the turkey neck is gone?
In any event, I'm going to start doing the testicle health massage stretch every time I use the restroom!
Thanks, DLD! I got started on the SSJ today, too. Good stuff, sir!A couple things, the testicle Health massage and stretch is going to displace turkey neck big-time moving it down to the scrotum and away from the shaft. This will make your penis hang heavier and lower. The next thing is your cock ring, I don’t see anything wrong with this as it’s similar to what I told you to do, anchoring a hand at the base holding back all skin why you stretch the penis. You have been training long enough that I do not think your turkey neck will get worse especially now that you’re aware of it. I would say the same thing with the Jelq, It can cause turkey neck because it’s an open ended exercise. But if you switch over to the slow squash jelq, being a closed ends exercise, you will not lose any blood in the exercise process because both ends of the penis have been trapped causing extreme expansion and no TN.
Thanks, DLD! I got started on the SSJ today, too. Good stuff, sir!
Sadly, I was robbed as a baby.Good question. I also have one does anybody uncut stretch with the foreskin pulled back? when I try this, it seems to help allot, and not needed to hold at the base so much.
Yes you’re being way too strict. As you have seen your hand is much better than a cock ring. So I understand your predicament that you’re talking about. There is still skin stretched happening at the extreme base near the scrotum. In time this will loosen up but if you want to loosen it up immediately simply do the testicle Health massage and stretch and you’ll see the skin stretched very quickly then from that point forward anchor that hand at the base so you’re only getting shaft stretch.Update:
In another thread I asked someone if they really needed two hands to stretch with a LM. That got me thinking, do I really need two hands to stretch bare handed? Sometimes, yes. But I've also found that if I use plenty of baby powder and twist my grip (can include pictures if needed) I can often get a pretty good stretch with just one, leaving the other to hold back skin.
So now I have either a hand or a cock ring to hold back skin.
Question:
When I'm using my hand (much more effective than cock ring) I can really feel the skin stretching along the underside of my shaft. So much so, in fact, that this stretch of the skin is what limits the stretch! That is, when I'm really doing a great job of holding that skin back, I'm not (currently) able to stretch the tunica and ligs like I otherwise would.
My question is: am I being too strict about the skin now? Or is this just a phase I need to work through until the TN goes away and the skin is no longer a limiting factor?
Please and thank you!
Good question. I also have one does anybody uncut stretch with the foreskin pulled back? when I try this, it seems to help allot, and not needed to hold at the base so much.
1) My sentiments exactly!!
Okay, I'll modify that and make sure the stretch is still hitting shaft and ligs predominantly. Thanks for the response, DLD!Yes you’re being way too strict. As you have seen your hand is much better than a cock ring. So I understand your predicament that you’re talking about. There is still skin stretched happening at the extreme base near the scrotum. In time this will loosen up but if you want to loosen it up immediately simply do the testicle Health massage and stretch and you’ll see the skin stretched very quickly then from that point forward anchor that hand at the base so you’re only getting shaft stretch.
After experiencing with both ive concluded that i can get a better stretch without pulling foreskin back.I feel the stretch in my ligs moreIf they do not pull the foreskin back they’re not stretching their penis they’re stretching the skin. If you are uncut it is totally necessary to retract the foreskin and stretch from the base of the head. I understand that this is uncomfortable but that only happens in the first 4 to 6 weeks. After that you’ll find so much more comfort in retracting the foreskin, it will not be as oversensitive allowing you to stress with complete comfort and make gains much faster
After two months PE.. I noticed it too : while jelqing my ok grip at the base is disturbed by too much scrotum skin.. I am afraid I will make things worse. It's still not as worse as on the picture but I am a bit scared now to progress with my daily workouts..There has been a lot of interest in the dreaded Turkey Neck. The technical name for this condition is penoscrotal webbing. Unfortunately, with poor Penis Enlargement form, penoscrotal webbing becomes a problem. If you don't know what it is I have attached a picture showing it at the bottom of this post.
The reason Penis Enlargement can make this condition worse is due to the massive skin stretch that happens through Penis Enlargement. To many men it may seem like a nightmare but there are, surgery-free, methods of correcting and avoiding this problem.
When most men stretch their penis the skin, running along the bottom of the shaft, connecting to the scrotum, stretches with it. Since skin is so easily stretched it begins to bag towards the bottom of the shaft over time and the webbing becomes more pronounced. Visually, it makes the penis appear shorter than it really is. In some cases the webbing can go up past the half mark making a penis that is 5" appear to be half of that.
How can you avoid or correct this? The first and most important thing is using a dual grip in stretching. If anyone has ever watched my videos they will see that I grip my penis below the glans with one hand but the other is affixed, firmly at the base and for good reason, I am holding the skin at the scrotum back. This allows me to stretch my penis without stretching the skin at the scrotum. I will ask Jaz to give me a clip of one of my videos so you can see this first hand. In the mean time, if you are already a member of the Members Site here is a video link: http://www.mattersofsize.com/members/member_video/new-videos/qt/Testicle-Health-Massage.mov
Another thing that contributes to this issue is pulling too much foreskin up while stretching. I understand that this makes for a more comfortable stretch but be sure that you are not pulling too much up. In cases where a user is looking to restore his foreskin by pulling the foreskin up it is important that he uses the dual grip to be sure the skin stretch is not coming from the scrotum.
Wrapping the scrotum is another method I found to be incredible. This is easily accomplished with a standard [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words]. Get your scrotum nice and relaxed using the Testicle Health Stretch and Massage (which is also a incredibly fast way to eliminate webbing), once relaxed wrap the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] around the scrotum being sure to strap back as much skin is you can being sure to leave a small amount for stretching. Once wrapped you can continue with standard stretching without fear of additional skin stretch.
As I stated above, The Testicle Health Stretch and Massage is an incredible way to eliminate webbing for good. The exercise also allows your scrotum to hang lower which allows the penis to hang much longer in flaccid state. This exercise can be done twice a day as a way to stop and reverse webbing.
I hope this helps the guys looking to eliminate this issue from their penis.
After two months PE.. I noticed it too : while jelqing my ok grip at the base is disturbed by too much scrotum skin.. I am afraid I will make things worse. It's still not as worse as on the picture but I am a bit scared now to progress with my daily workouts..
Thanks DLD.. I still have a few doubts about the stretch in the THM.. In my opinion the problem is too much scrotum skin due to a wrong penile stretch method (one hand) but if you stretch the balls down you stretch the scrotum skin between balls and shaft and isn't that just the problem?? : too much skin? Did you ever receive any positive feedback from a brother with this problem who tried to solve it with THM? Sorry for all these questions but I don't wanna make this skin issue worse.. Maythe help of the anchor hand is valuable info for all newbiesNo longer do jelqing, It is an outdated exercise that will cause TN. Switch to the SSJ and you’ll no longer have this issue with skin. Also check out the way I stretch by going to www.mattersofsize.com/access. Go to the audiovisual section and download any stretching video and you’ll see that when I stretch I always anchor a hand at the base to prevent any skin coming up from the scrotum. It is also imperative that you do the testicle health massage and stretch as this will re-distribute the skin from the shaft back down towards the scrotum.
Thanks DLD.. I still have a few doubts about the stretch in the THM.. In my opinion the problem is too much scrotum skin due to a wrong penile stretch method (one hand) but if you stretch the balls down you stretch the scrotum skin between balls and shaft and isn't that just the problem?? : too much skin? Did you ever receive any positive feedback from a brother with this problem who tried to solve it with THM? Sorry for all these questions but I don't wanna make this skin issue worse.. Maythe help of the anchor hand is valuable info for all newbies
I realize now I 've been stretching for 2 months in an inappropriate way. From now on with anchor hand.. It feels a bit weird in the beginning, especially the retracted foreskin which is very sensitive, sometimes painful but I guess I' ll get used of it.. Thanks for your directions DLD.. I try the THL twice a day from now..
This is so important, I hope every brother have this implemented in their penis enlargement program. You will be able to gain faster as well, when there are no skin restrictions.There has been a lot of interest in the dreaded Turkey Neck. The technical name for this condition is penoscrotal webbing. Unfortunately, with poor Penis Enlargement form, penoscrotal webbing becomes a problem. If you don't know what it is I have attached a picture showing it at the bottom of this post.
The reason Penis Enlargement can make this condition worse is due to the massive skin stretch that happens through Penis Enlargement. To many men it may seem like a nightmare but there are, surgery-free, methods of correcting and avoiding this problem.
When most men stretch their penis the skin, running along the bottom of the shaft, connecting to the scrotum, stretches with it. Since skin is so easily stretched it begins to bag towards the bottom of the shaft over time and the webbing becomes more pronounced. Visually, it makes the penis appear shorter than it really is. In some cases the webbing can go up past the half mark making a penis that is 5" appear to be half of that.
How can you avoid or correct this? The first and most important thing is using a dual grip in stretching. If anyone has ever watched my videos they will see that I grip my penis below the glans with one hand but the other is affixed, firmly at the base and for good reason, I am holding the skin at the scrotum back. This allows me to stretch my penis without stretching the skin at the scrotum. I will ask Jaz to give me a clip of one of my videos so you can see this first hand. In the mean time, if you are already a member of the Members Site here is a video link: http://www.mattersofsize.com/members/member_video/new-videos/qt/Testicle-Health-Massage.mov
Another thing that contributes to this issue is pulling too much foreskin up while stretching. I understand that this makes for a more comfortable stretch but be sure that you are not pulling too much up. In cases where a user is looking to restore his foreskin by pulling the foreskin up it is important that he uses the dual grip to be sure the skin stretch is not coming from the scrotum.
Wrapping the scrotum is another method I found to be incredible. This is easily accomplished with a standard [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words]. Get your scrotum nice and relaxed using the Testicle Health Stretch and Massage (which is also a incredibly fast way to eliminate webbing), once relaxed wrap the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] around the scrotum being sure to strap back as much skin is you can being sure to leave a small amount for stretching. Once wrapped you can continue with standard stretching without fear of additional skin stretch.
As I stated above, The Testicle Health Stretch and Massage is an incredible way to eliminate webbing for good. The exercise also allows your scrotum to hang lower which allows the penis to hang much longer in flaccid state. This exercise can be done twice a day as a way to stop and reverse webbing.
I hope this helps the guys looking to eliminate this issue from their penis.