Anybody who's followed this thread might be wondering; WTF?
Well, "Erection Valves" do not, I repeat; do not exist. Hence, there cannot BE a problem with them.
An actual cause of impotence, however, is Venous Leakage. The following is the preamble to a larger and very informative article found here:

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2490/7/14

Makes a damn good read, I recommend it to anyone with serious questions about impotence.
As I glean more info from the good ol' internet I'll make damn sure to pass it on here.


Abstract

Background

Etiology of venogenic erectile dysfunction is not exactly known. Various pathologic processes were accused but none proved entirely satisfactory. These include presence of large venous channels draining corpora cavernosa, Peyronie's disease, diabetes and structural alterations in fibroblastic components of trabeculae and cavernous smooth muscles. We investigated hypothesis that tunica albuginea atrophy with a resulting subluxation and redundancy effects venous leakage during erection.
Methods

18 patients (mean age 33.6 ± 2.8 SD years) with venogenic erectile dysfunction and 17 volunteers for control (mean age 31.7 ± 2.2 SD years) were studied. Intracorporal pressure was recorded in all subjects; tunica albuginea biopsies were taken from 18 patients and 9 controls and stained with hematoxylin and eosin and Masson's trichrome stains.
Results

In flaccid phase intracorporal pressure recorded a mean of 11.8 &#177; 0.8 cm H<SUB>2</SUB>O for control subjects and for patients of 5.2 &#177; 0.6 cm, while during induced erection recorded 98.4 &#177; 6.2 and 5.9 &#177; 0.7 cmH<SUB>2</SUB>O, respectively. Microscopically, tunica albuginea of controls consisted of circularly-oriented collagen impregnated with elastic fibers. Tunica albuginea of patients showed degenerative and atrophic changes of collagen fibers; elastic fibers were scarce or absent.
Conclusion

Study has shown that during erection intracorporal pressure of patients with venogenic erectile dysfunction was significantly lower than that of controls. Tunica albuginea collagen fibers exhibited degenerative and atrophic changes which presumably lead to tunica albuginea subluxation and floppiness. These tunica albuginea changes seem to explain cause of lowered intracorporal pressure which apparently results from loss of tunica albuginea veno-occlusive mechanism. Causes of tunica albuginea atrophic changes and subluxation need to be studied.
 
I dont even know what was the big deal. If those so called valves dont exist then the whole claim is bogus. This shouldnt even have gotten to the point of arguing about voluntary action and risk aversion.
 
Thanks, that was my point. Now venous leakage actually is a fairly serious, even if uncommon, problem. And with the number of posts on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] concerning ED I really think this is a subject deserving of full coverage.
 
My dads best friend died during a workout session while he was squatting. what happened? food poison? steroids? blood pressure? nope. he had a heart failure which he never saw or heard anything about, suddenly his ticker just stopped ticking.

How can we use this? we can't.
Yes if your scared of life, don't drink don't smoke, always eat healthy don't eat meat, don't have sex. never be out in the sun. stay away from big cities. Don't stress. don't work out, NEVER eat fast food.

There you go now you will prob turn 138 if you don't die from boredness before that.

The fact is, that everything in life has a risk. EVERYTHING! your sitting infront of your computer now? Bam condence water ran down into your screen makes it starting fire up. sets your house on fire and you will die a horrible flaming death.

if this so called "valve" exist and it can be broken by pe it can probably also be broken by a good fucking session. And how many in here wanna trade those away?

I will make my daily session even more intense just for the sake of this :)

Hail the risk takers
 
is there any scientific proof that penis enlargement excersizes really work?

is there any scientific proof that they are safe?

and what is the scientifically prooved limitations of pressure and time for penis enlargement excersizes?

so can someone please give me information about 'facts' ??

i can say Penis Enlargement works up to a limit. yes i was feeling good in first weeks cuz felt it is longer and it made me feel good. but for the last 5 months i have been suffering from pain. not any impotence but the pain is making me crazy. and my penis is getting with red blue varicosed veins around.

so it is not a bad idea that to add on a site penis enlargement excersizes are on your own risk. like it is written on cigarattes..

how wud u defend yourself if someone claims he hurted himself with these excersizes?? and u r living in US i guess and i know there bec of this kind of things companies have to pay millions.

and when someone opens a topic like this u start playing with words. without any real 'fact'.
 
What's your point?
&
Just whom are you talking to?


glennnn;364934 said:
is there any scientific proof that penis enlargement excersizes really work?

is there any scientific proof that they are safe?

and what is the scientifically prooved limitations of pressure and time for penis enlargement excersizes?

so can someone please give me information about 'facts' ??

i can say Penis Enlargement works up to a limit. yes i was feeling good in first weeks cuz felt it is longer and it made me feel good. but for the last 5 months i have been suffering from pain. not any impotence but the pain is making me crazy. and my penis is getting with red blue varicosed veins around.

so it is not a bad idea that to add on a site penis enlargement excersizes are on your own risk. like it is written on cigarattes..

how wud u defend yourself if someone claims he hurted himself with these excersizes?? and u r living in US i guess and i know there bec of this kind of things companies have to pay millions.

and when someone opens a topic like this u start playing with words. without any real 'fact'.
 
i've gained 2.25 inches of cock in a little over a year.- and NO, its not a variation in measurement, i didn't have bad erection quality prior to Penis Enlargement, and i have no affiliation to any Penis Enlargement products or sites. so yes, Penis Enlargement DEFINITELY WORKS! get to pulling and stop arguing doubters!
 
MAXAMEYES;364941 said:
What's your point?
&
Just whom are you talking to?

whom are promoting penis enlargement devices and techniques..and who are supporting them. and pretending not understand what some people says here or dont accept the risk of this. i recently opened a topic here about varicosed veins in penis. just have a search in net in medical sites and see how many people are effected of these techniques. u will now say they did it wrong, too hard etc.. but u and some other people dont have mercy for people who will start these and most probably injure theirselves. so if u believe in god, or karma or justice or just to feel urself good. please warn people who thinks starting these exercises.. this is what i am trying to do for months in internet. in medical and Penis Enlargement sites..this wont change my stuck situation but still i continue for this..
 
glennnn;365520 said:
you are doing the same thing.

my grammer is maybe not good. i am not english or american.


Here, this should help:

Free English Lessons from the ESL Resource Center

http://eslus.com/LESSONS/GRAMMAR/Gram.htm

Come on back when you have something useful to contribute, and can do so effectively. Thank you for your participation in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Matters of Size[/words].
 
glennnnnn....(whatever)

Do you actually have anything pertinent and/or productive to add to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]?
Anything, anything at all.
If so; contribute, if not then at least just stay quietly by yourself in the corner because your postings are less than useless.

Take a look at this, and for God's sake relax:

Penis Enlargement, Oxygen toxicity & proportion...
(posted 10-26-09, 12:52 PM)
<HR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #989898; COLOR: #989898" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->If the most vital element for life can be toxic, then we all should remember that anything in the wrong proportions can be harmful. Even exercises you perform yourself, on yourself.

The full article here: http://science.howstuffworks.com/question4931.htm

Just Breathe
Now what would happen if you breathed 100 percent oxygen? In guinea pigs exposed to 100 percent oxygen at normal air pressure for 48 hours, fluid accumulates in the lungs and the epithelial cells lining the alveoli. In addition, the pulmonary capillaries get damaged. A highly reactive form of the oxygen molecule, called the oxygen free radical, which destroys proteins and membranes in the epithelial cells, probably causes this damage. In humans breathing 100 percent oxygen at normal pressure, here's what happens:

Fluid accumulates in the lungs.
Gas flow across the alveoli slows down, meaning that the person has to breathe more to get enough oxygen.
Chest pains occur during deep breathing.
The total volume of exchangeable air in the lung decreases by 17 percent.
Mucus plugs local areas of collapsed alveoli -- a condition called atelectasis. The oxygen trapped in the plugged alveoli gets absorbed into the blood, no gas is left to keep the plugged alveoli inflated, and they collapse. Mucus plugs are normal, but they are cleared by coughing. If alveoli become plugged while breathing air, the nitrogen trapped in the alveoli keeps them inflated.
The astronauts in the Gemini and Apollo programs breathed 100 percent oxygen at reduced pressure for up to two weeks with no problems. In contrast, when 100 percent oxygen is breathed under high pressure (more than four times that of atmospheric pressure), acute oxygen poisoning can occur with these symptoms:

Nausea
Dizziness
Muscle twitches
Blurred vision
Seizures/convulsions
Such high oxygen pressures can be experienced by military SCUBA divers using rebreathing devices, divers being treated for the bends in hyperbaric chambers or patients being treated for acute carbon monoxide poisoning.
 
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MAXAMEYES;365569 said:
Here, this should help:

Free English Lessons from the ESL Resource Center

http://eslus.com/LESSONS/GRAMMAR/Gram.htm

Come on back when you have something useful to contribute, and can do so effectively. Thank you for your participation in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Matters of Size[/words].

laughing hard over here....
 
glennnn;365634 said:
point is not that.. that tons of people get hurt from penis enlargement. so u shud warn them before they start.

here is a site u can make a search 'jelq' and see how many injured from that and there are many others who dont mention it but obviously they injured themselves with Penis Enlargement. they have good english so i think u can understand.

http://www.medhelp.org/search/expanded?cat=posts&query=jelq

Another boggis medical site that allows posts only that fit their agenda. Why in the fuck would you even consider listening to advice like this when you have thousands of real, active users telling you it works?

I guess if you don't want Penis Enlargement to work it wont and if you like you can join forums and post all day about how it does not work...that way it wont work for those readers too.
 
i wudnt care if i didnt have months of constant pain. u wake up with pain, go to work with pain, come home meet friends girls-boys with pain. and yes.. have sex with pain and after.

sorry for my depressive words but this is the truth for me for the half of 2009.
 
glennnn;365784 said:
i wudnt care if i didnt have months of constant pain. u wake up with pain, go to work with pain, come home meet friends girls-boys with pain. and yes.. have sex with pain and after.

sorry for my depressive words but this is the truth for me for the half of 2009.

So what in the flying blue fuck do you expect any of us here to do for you?
I live in constant pain too; I'm a disabled vet with an 80% rating from the VA. Do you here me sniveling about it you whiny, pathetic little cunt?
I got injured during my service to my country.
You fucked up your own dick, sad news; but a self inflicted wound.

Last time: contribute something, anything positive or I'll escort you out the door.
 
dont dramatise urself.. i dont believe a word u say. and even ur a veteran. good luck in ur job risking peoples lives like ur state did for u.
 
MAXAMEYES;365806 said:
I'M gonna close this thread as all it seems to do is congregate detractors and negativity.

i knew it would happen eventually:)
 
Here's the original message from Thund3rs Pl@ce which started this hoopla. The OP did not care to provide the fact that he only skimmed over the message, and did not ever include the original or complete text of the message. The below mentioned ''defect'' is unproven, and if proven there are no raw numbers or statistics to cause it to be a real concern to 99&#37; of men most likely. Any man, at any age and at any given point in time ''may be'' susceptible to any number of defects physically. Heart defects are one of the most common and usually over looked which sneak up on us. Anyway, I thought I'd show the original message in it's entirety. If you read the entire message rather than just pick and choose what you want to read, and take as ''fact'', you will see it's just a warning of a POTENTIAL but not PROBABLE concern. ----Stillwantmore

I don't think I've encountered anyone with this type of problem. Micro penis is even very few I've seen. They are a very rare population.
 
I don't think I've encountered anyone with this type of problem. Micro penis is even very few I've seen. They are a very rare population.

We have had a few people with that disorder, and what it means is their penis erect is less than 2 inches. So it is extremely rare. But a micro penis can become a normal penis with doing the work to get there. My heart goes out to anyone who is experiencing this and I pray they ask for help as we're here to help them correct this
 
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