Sure, but its better if you buy the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] first because its milder than clamping so you'll gain easier from it alone at this stage. Leave clamps for very last
 
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habban;674153 said:
Guys.. I don't get it. I can't really get any expansion straight after session. I tryed now and measured 11,4 - 11,5. It's like i lose expansion. I even did step up my girth work. I did one of my best girth workouts. I really got blood going, my penis was thick during exercise, got good expansion when i did ulis etc. But after session, no temporary expansion at all. It's more like i get less expansion afterwards. Really strange? Could this mean i am the type of guy that needs less workout to see expansions and gains? I don't do anything wrong when exercising. I have correct technique and everything. It just seems weird.

Any ideas? Thank you.

Ulis is a weak exercise...the only two manual girth exercises that work are [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] and Jelqing,the others,unless you're a newbie,won't give you much results.

If you're sure you have the right intensity and your workout is intense,and you still don't get any expansion i think you need a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words].For some men manual exercises are not great.Have you followed my girth routine and you still don't get any expansion?Are you working your dick at 100 % hard?
 
ChilDsh;674163 said:
Ulis is a weak exercise...the only two manual girth exercises that work are [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] and Jelqing,the others,unless you're a newbie,won't give you much results.

If you're sure you have the right intensity and your workout is intense,and you still don't get any expansion i think you need a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words].For some men manual exercises are not great.Have you followed my girth routine and you still don't get any expansion?Are you working your dick at 100 % hard?

Erect Squeezes? Habban if you want that expansion it's best to do girth right after length because you beat your meat to a point where it can be considered in a very good pre fatigue mode for girth.

habban;674116 said:
I use Mozilla Firefox. It has been working before. But hasn't worked for me for a month soon or something?

Try google chrome.
 
Use Firefox, Chrome or Safari, they all work great. if you are still having issues please let me know.
 
doublelongdaddy;674224 said:
Use Firefox, Chrome or Safari, they all work great. if you are still having issues please let me know.

I use Firefox and still have issues only with this specific website unfortunately.
 
habban;674233 said:
I use Firefox and still have issues only with this specific website unfortunately.

Where do you live?
 
kyomoto;674195 said:
Erect Squeezes?

Not bad,but i can talk from my own experience,jelqing and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] works the best and these two are the best manual girth exercises imo.Squeezes and all kind of other girth exercises could work too,but not as good as jelq or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] imo.
 
Okey! So Today i did an intensive 20min jelqing session without any progresss with temporary expansion afterwards whatsoever. I include slow squash jelqs. I have only been doing 10minute jelqing sessions max before. I have worked up from 5 minutes. A 20minute jelqing session is like a shock session for me compared to what i have been doing before when it comes to jelqing. It's more like i lose 0,1cm afterwards than gaining 0,1cm. Any thoughts? Could it be a chance that i could see expansion if i only did 3-5minutes if my penis responds better to lower intensity, or is that theory that some responds better to low intensity just bullshit?

Thank you! :)
 
habban;674271 said:
Okey! So Today i did an intensive 20min jelqing session without any progresss with temporary expansion afterwards whatsoever. I include slow squash jelqs. I have only been doing 10minute jelqing sessions max before. I have worked up from 5 minutes. A 20minute jelqing session is like a shock session for me compared to what i have been doing before when it comes to jelqing. It's more like i lose 0,1cm afterwards than gaining 0,1cm. Any thoughts? Could it be a chance that i could see expansion if i only did 3-5minutes if my penis responds better to lower intensity, or is that theory that some responds better to low intensity just bullshit?

Thank you! :)

It is possible that you may have started at an intensity too much for you, start low then progress higher and higher over time.

ChilDsh;674248 said:
Not bad,but i can talk from my own experience,jelqing and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] works the best and these two are the best manual girth exercises imo.Squeezes and all kind of other girth exercises could work too,but not as good as jelq or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] imo.

Yeah I figured. Erect squeezes to me didn't come up that great because it's tiresome and clamping is generally an easier alternative. Jelqing and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] are soon to be my favorites :)
 
I will do 4 rest days now and then month 9 will be over. Lets see what happens during the rest days. After that i will go back to my lighter jelqing routine, with a much lower grip strength and for only 5 minutes. Do everything with pretty low intensity basically. That is what has worked before. Also doing my jelqs at lower erection %. 70% max. This worked for me before.
 
Why don't you buy a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] bro :). I hope you aren't going to that naughty place where they say bathmates are dangerous because they don't have a gauge. Truth is [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is the state of the art system that would help you especially since your tunica deforms so easily ")
Here's the official article http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/bathmate-hercules-goliath-hydromax-x30-x40-and-hydromax-xtreme-hydropump-forum/57065-principles-of-bathmate.html
 
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templnite;674298 said:
Why don't you buy a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] bro :). I hope you aren't going to that naughty place where they say bathmates are dangerous because they don't have a gauge. Truth is [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is the state of the art system that would help you especially since your tunica deforms so easily ")
Here's the official article http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/bathmate-hercules-goliath-hydromax-x30-x40-and-hydromax-xtreme-hydropump-forum/57065-principles-of-bathmate.html

I will buy it sometime. Not yet though. :) I want to do what i can with manuals first.
 
habban;674301 said:
I will buy it sometime. Not yet though. :) I want to do what i can with manuals first.

I didn't gain shit for girth until I started using rings and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. Manual work just doesn't cut it sometimes.

I will say if you really want to continue with manual work you should try squeezes. My favorite is the horse 440. You get to max (or I do anyway), uli at the extreme base, kegel to 110%, squeeze blood from glans with other hand into shaft with a kinda reverse jelq motion, hold both hands like that for 30 seconds or until your eq hits 50%. Repeat until you're sick of it.

I use a ring for these too, and I stick to doing girth work in an actually aroused state because things flare out just a little bit more when I do. I mix them in with edging with a ring also and the whole experience is very intense.

You should also consider doing some bundling as tight as you can without lumping up your dick. Ideally you bundle tight and stretch, but I can confirm that you can get at least some boost from doing tight bundling without a stretch. Jelqs for a few minutes have also been said to loosen things up for the real girth work. It's a trend that jelqing is generally considered a part of a warm up. They're very light when you compare them to the heavy work like bends or squeezes.
 
BM [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] is a powerful device shave your pubic area for better suction..BM hardcore stretches try them if you havent.:)
 
acromegaly;674322 said:
ya i do my jelqs after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]

What is the timing in pumping and jelqing?
 
habban;674295 said:
I will do 4 rest days now and then month 9 will be over. Lets see what happens during the rest days. After that i will go back to my lighter jelqing routine, with a much lower grip strength and for only 5 minutes. Do everything with pretty low intensity basically. That is what has worked before. Also doing my jelqs at lower erection %. 70% max. This worked for me before.

1)
I will do 4 rest days now


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4 rest days?Did i miss something?

2)What do you mean doing jelqs at 70 % erection?Did you not see my post before that?Any kind of girth exercise should be done at 100 % erection.Let me explain this to you.

If you are 70 % erect and you get 20 % expansion,that's 90 % of your max size.This is probably why you don't see any expansion.But if you're 90-100 % erect and get 20 % expansion that's 110-120 of your true size,that's when you get expansion and gain.

3)Get yourself a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] if you don't get any expansion at all.
 
Also, if you're having trouble maintaining 100% while jelqing you need to start up with kegels. I've been doing them 5 weeks a couple hours a day and have seen my eq get a lot easier to manage, but I still expect my eq to continue to improve as I do them over the next few months. Really is important to have a strong pc muscle for girth work.

It's the little things habbs. The conditions need to be right every single time, and it's not hard, but it is time consuming.
 
doublelongdaddy;674381 said:
What is the timing in pumping and jelqing?
Usually equal parts pumping and jelqing 15/15 or 20/20, I do that twice a day but I'm trying to cut back now. I think people who struggle with bad discoloration need to jelq more especially as a warm down
 
acromegaly;674498 said:
Usually equal parts pumping and jelqing 15/15 or 20/20, I do that twice a day but I'm trying to cut back now. I think people who struggle with bad discoloration need to jelq more especially as a warm down

I would try to switch this up a bit and see if it helps you with more expansion. 15/15 into 5x5x3 would make a better routine and bring the expansion you desire with little to no retention. So you will be doing 5 minutes of pumping followed by 5 minutes of jelqing and repeat this 3-4 times. You will see much better expansion after the first workout. I know you have had issues in the past with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SlowSquashJelq[/words] but if you can replace the jelqs, eventually, with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] it will be even more gainful.
 
Longth;674314 said:
I didn't gain shit for girth until I started using rings and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. Manual work just doesn't cut it sometimes.

I will say if you really want to continue with manual work you should try squeezes. My favorite is the horse 440. You get to max (or I do anyway), uli at the extreme base, kegel to 110%, squeeze blood from glans with other hand into shaft with a kinda reverse jelq motion, hold both hands like that for 30 seconds or until your eq hits 50%. Repeat until you're sick of it.

I use a ring for these too, and I stick to doing girth work in an actually aroused state because things flare out just a little bit more when I do. I mix them in with edging with a ring also and the whole experience is very intense.

You should also consider doing some bundling as tight as you can without lumping up your dick. Ideally you bundle tight and stretch, but I can confirm that you can get at least some boost from doing tight bundling without a stretch. Jelqs for a few minutes have also been said to loosen things up for the real girth work. It's a trend that jelqing is generally considered a part of a warm up. They're very light when you compare them to the heavy work like bends or squeezes.

I agree I feel as though at most you can gain from manuals-girth wise will be 0.5" maybe if you're lucky 0.75"
 
kyomoto;674536 said:
I agree I feel as though at most you can gain from manuals-girth wise will be 0.5" maybe if you're lucky 0.75"

Manually but I have seen some men get into the 1"+ area using the 5x5x3 routine. I get about 1/2" but I go it very light.
 
doublelongdaddy;674707 said:
Manually but I have seen some men get into the 1"+ area using the 5x5x3 routine. I get about 1/2" but I go it very light.

Are you saying those numbers as in expansion? I'm talking about permanent gains btw.
 
kyomoto;674743 said:
Are you saying those numbers as in expansion? I'm talking about permanent gains btw.

You can really do plenty with manual work either way. Bundles and rks for length and squeezes and bends for girth. Just takes grit and determination. Devices just give us the power to go farther faster than we ever could without them. Ideally we use the best of both worlds and come up with killer combo moves like bundles/jelqs/Bathmate/jelqs/cock ring/edge/horse squeeze/edge. Devices can be like the gameshark for pe.
 
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doublelongdaddy;674530 said:
I would try to switch this up a bit and see if it helps you with more expansion. 15/15 into 5x5x3 would make a better routine and bring the expansion you desire with little to no retention. So you will be doing 5 minutes of pumping followed by 5 minutes of jelqing and repeat this 3-4 times. You will see much better expansion after the first workout. I know you have had issues in the past with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SlowSquashJelq[/words] but if you can replace the jelqs, eventually, with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] it will be even more gainful.
Ok I will try
 
Longth;674750 said:
You can really do plenty with manual work either way. Bundles and rks for length and squeezes and bends for girth. Just takes grit and determination. Devices just give us the power to go farther faster than we ever could without them. Ideally we use the best of both worlds and come up with killer combo moves like bundles/jelqs/Bathmate/jelqs/cock ring/edge/horse squeeze/edge. Devices can be like the gameshark for pe.

well yes yes yes. I'm just saying like cuz idk if dld got confused with what i said.
 
Hello! I hear a lot of people talking about temporary girth gains after workout. Can someone explain this to me? The only temporary girth gain i can see is at the time i'm holding a squeeze from a jelq or ULI. Like when my jelqmotion is at the top my head is much bigger cause of all blood i pushed up. This is the only temp gain i get while exercising. Btw, all the temp gains i see while i am squeezing/jelqing, should that expansion (current look) be considered as my future girth later on? I mean, wow my penis looks way more handsome in the middle of the squeeze/jelq.

Thank you!


From what you have written, it seems you haven't done the 5x5x3 pumping routine. Get yourself a mityvac penis pump.
 
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