Hello! I hear a lot of people talking about temporary girth gains after workout. Can someone explain this to me? The only temporary girth gain i can see is at the time i'm holding a squeeze from a jelq or ULI. Like when my jelqmotion is at the top my head is much bigger cause of all blood i pushed up. This is the only temp gain i get while exercising. Btw, all the temp gains i see while i am squeezing/jelqing, should that expansion (current look) be considered as my future girth later on? I mean, wow my penis looks way more handsome in the middle of the squeeze/jelq.

Thank you!
 
Temporary girth gains are simply signs of your dick expansion. Expansion during an exercise is different.
For example temporary girth gains are notable after clamping and pumping because you expand your dick so much that it stays that way, in an unnatural state that is not your normal size. But it takes time and intensity to get to this point

I wouldn't consider your temp gains from squeezing/ jelqing as future girth because you say that only happens DURING your exercise, the effect has to be after you're done exercising to potentially have future size/gains.
 
You make it sound like it's a bad thing it only happens during exercise. How should i gain then you mean? ;)

When i see my penis expand like this during exercise it really feels like i'm doing the right thing. When doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] as this site provides you also get expansion during exercise. But when i'm not doing the exercise and after workout i have my regular sized boner. You say i am doing something wrong then?

Isn't temporary gains only edema or fluid buildup or whatever it is called? Should i aim for a temporary girth expansion instead? I think that has never happend to me.
 
habban;673787 said:
You make it sound like it's a bad thing it only happens during exercise. How should i gain then you mean? ;)

When i see my penis expand like this during exercise it really feels like i'm doing the right thing. When doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] as this site provides you also get expansion during exercise. But when i'm not doing the exercise and after workout i have my regular sized boner. You say i am doing something wrong then?

Isn't temporary gains only edema or fluid buildup or whatever it is called? Should i aim for a temporary girth expansion instead? I think that has never happend to me.

Depending on the kind of work you do, the expansion will subside after a certain amount of time. Sometimes minutes, sometimes hours. The goal is to keep it in an expanded state as much as possible when training girth. Using a snug but not suffocating ring is a good way to keep the expansion you earn for longer. So is getting random erections with said ring on, and training several times a day.

That's not to say that you won't gain doing one routine a day without a ring for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. But the odds of gains and rate they come should increase with one.
 
Maybe i don't understand how girth gains come by?

I have a real situation that happend to me a few days ago. I randomly measured 11,7cm mid shaft size instead of 11.5 a while back. I thought: "Wow i gained" This happend on a off day on a regular edging/masturbating session. Since that measurement days has past and my size went slowly down to 11,6 and then 11,5 again. I was back at 11,5. And i still am at 11,5. Does that mean i had a temporary expansion and that i should have edged a lot during this period to cement those 11,7 gains? Actually this is how i have noticed my girth gains, my measurements go up and down and slowly increases. Like my situation i just told. Suddenly the 11,7cm gain will be the new static measurements. Until it suddenly starts to hit 11,9 cm suddenly and then bounce back to 11,7 again.

Are those jumps to a higher number called temporary girth gains? When i notice them, should edging with this temporary increase be beneficial by then to make it permanent faster? I don't notice temporary girth gains straight after a session. I mean people claim to notice 0.5 inch and 1 inch and stuffs. I never do that, whats the case about that? I only notice girth gains like how i stated recently.
 
Yea, jumps are considered temporary expansion. You want to reinforce that constantly to make it permanent and it can take a while. I really suggest using a ring because it makes retention last a lot longer and makes gains a bit easier.
 
Longth;673797 said:
Yea, jumps are considered temporary expansion. You want to reinforce that constantly to make it permanent and it can take a while. I really suggest using a ring because it makes retention last a lot longer and makes gains a bit easier.

Thank you! I finally understand now x) Does the same thing apply regarding length gains? How long should it take usually until your temp gains kicks in? I didn't get any as i said directly after exercises. But i went back to my computer and edged now, perhaps 30m - 1hour after my workout and noticed a 0.07 inch in temporary girth gain when i edged!

0,1cm - 0,2cm temp gains is usually what i get. I wonder, is there a way to increase the temp gains? And what is the deciding factor i only gain this small amount of temp gains? My EQ is 10/10 all the time. Prominent veins etc. At least not less than 9/10

Thanks!
 
I forgot! About that cock ring. Are you supposed to put it on in erect state? Is the penis supposed to shrink to regular flaccid size after a while with the cock ring on, or is it not tight enough then? I don't know which % my penis should maintain for my cock ring to do it's job.
 
For length the concept is retaining elongation. They're basically the same concept from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words], but the methods are obviously different. For retaining elongation the most common method is wrapping. See the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]uncle Jim[/words]'s strap for examples. Basically, the more you keep it stretched out the better your odds are at retaining the temporary length gains and converting them to permanent gains. It's also not easy and being relentless is really the best bet.

For the ring, I recommend putting it on while erect and make sure it's not so tight that an erection is painful. It should still be tight while erect so it is snug when you get flaccid. I would highly recommend an adjustable ring for all day uses. Just because it's going to vary a lot and it stands to reason that your size will change and you'll wish you had an adjustable ring to compensate for the gains.

I use something like this.

http://www.amazon.com/California-Exotic-Novelties-Lasso-Cock/dp/B0041HF4G

And if it gets to be irritating on the skin you can just get a strip of cotton to use as a barrier. I personally use a cotton polyester blend hand towel which I use as a loose wrap as well. Keeps me a little elongated and it makes it warm so I have that jelly state everyone loves to talk about pretty much all the time. That's just a suggestion. Just be aware you might want to prepare to use something for your comfort.
 
Thank you very much for your quick responses! :)

I only have 2 thoughts left before i go to sleep. I have made kinda 1 inch gain in length and i haven't used any wrap or kept my penis elongated after my sessions. I just did the exercises and then i was finished. Second thought, is it how fast a person can make temp gains into permanent gains that decides if you are a fast gainer or not?
 
habban;673805 said:
Thank you very much for your quick responses! :)

I only have 2 thoughts left before i go to sleep. I have made kinda 1 inch gain in length and i haven't used any wrap or kept my penis elongated after my sessions. I just did the exercises and then i was finished. Second thought, is it how fast a person can make temp gains into permanent gains that decides if you are a fast gainer or not?

If the theory holds true wrapping and retaining elongation could have helped those gains come faster or increase them.

It really depends on the work you're doing and how well your body responds to any given exercise. Some work just kinda leaves a lingering effect. Like [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] tends to last hours at first and eventually becomes all day for some people. That's going to be trial and error for you learning what seems to give you the best lasting impact. For me it's [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], edging with a ring, and horse squeezes so far. For you it could be blasters and ssjs. That's a variable area from person to person, but I think you can find some stuff that really hits the spot once you start trying new things.
 
habban;673763 said:
Hello! I hear a lot of people talking about temporary girth gains after workout. Can someone explain this to me? The only temporary girth gain i can see is at the time i'm holding a squeeze from a jelq or ULI. Like when my jelqmotion is at the top my head is much bigger cause of all blood i pushed up. This is the only temp gain i get while exercising. Btw, all the temp gains i see while i am squeezing/jelqing, should that expansion (current look) be considered as my future girth later on? I mean, wow my penis looks way more handsome in the middle of the squeeze/jelq.

Thank you!

If your girth workout is good you should see a temporary gains,meaning you should see a temporary increase of your girth.If you're girth is 5" normaly , you should be around 5.5" after a girth workout.You get a .5",but it's not permanent.Just like going to the gym and after finishing your workout you're all pumped up and muscular..but that's not your real size..you will get back to your size after a few hours.Same with PE.

We use a cock ring to keep the expansion as much as possible,this way we heal quickly and and gain faster than usual.Read the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] to understand better.
 
ChilDsh;673807 said:
If your girth workout is good you should see a temporary gains,meaning you should see a temporary increase of your girth.If you're girth is 5" normaly , you should be around 5.5" after a girth workout.You get a .5",but it's not permanent.Just like going to the gym and after finishing your workout you're all pumped up and muscular..but that's not your real size..you will get back to your size after a few hours.Same with PE.

We use a cock ring to keep the expansion as much as possible,this way we heal quickly and and gain faster than usual.Read the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] to understand better.

0.5 inches expansion really seems like a lot. I don't own a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] or anything. I do everything manual. Mostly jelqing. So you mean the time of my girth session should last until i get the temporary expansion? Is that like the decider for how long you should jelq etc? I don't see any expansion like this. How long after your session should it normally take until the temp gains kicks in? Even though i don't see those kind of expansions i have increased my beg and meg at least 0.6 inches. So i don't get it?
 
habban;673831 said:
0.5 inches expansion really seems like a lot. I don't own a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] or anything. I do everything manual. Mostly jelqing. So you mean the time of my girth session should last until i get the temporary expansion? Is that like the decider for how long you should jelq etc? I don't see any expansion like this. How long after your session should it normally take until the temp gains kicks in? Even though i don't see those kind of expansions i have increased my beg and meg at least 0.6 inches. So i don't get it?

The temporary gain stars while you're doing your exercises...it doesn't " kick in " after the workout..while you're jelqing or whatever girth exercise you do,after 5 min you should see a temporary expansion,your dick will become thicker.If this doesn't happen to you,you're doing something wrong.For how long do you jelq?How hard are you when you jelq?Do you jelq alone?

A girth session with no expansion = 0 . If you don't get any expansion,something is wrong.

So you mean the time of my girth session should last until i get the temporary expansion? Is that like the decider for how long you should jelq etc?

No.After your girth workout,you apply a cock ring on your penis.It's a little ring,you put in at the base of your penis.This way you will slow down the blood flow and you will keep the expansion for more time.

Girth routine - > You get expansion -> apply cock ring for a couple of hours to keep the expansion for as much as possible.

The more you keep the expansion the quicker you will gain.
 
I usually stick with a ring day and night to retain expansion from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] edging and horse squeezes. If you always have expansion you are basically cementing constantly. That's the ideal method of growing rapidly.
 
I don't get those expansions. I usually do v-jelqs, ssjs, ulis. A variation of supra slammers and other stuffs. I push as hard so i can see my glans and shaft expand and getting thicker with the motion. But that expansion goes away when i release the grip as the massive blood i push go back in to my body or whatever. It's not like the expansion stays there when i release grip or after the exercise. When i edge afterwards it's my regular girth size. My EQ is rock hard and veiny.

Though at random times my girth can be a little bit higher somedays to 11,7 from 11,5 for an example. This is my sign grow are close by. Suddenly with same metod my new regular size is 11,7. And later i'm sniffing at 11,9cm suddenly sometimes until it goes permanent. But those increases i usually see at off days or when i just randomly edge, not directly after a session.
 
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habban;673842 said:
I don't get those expansions. I usually do v-jelqs, ssjs, ulis. A variation of supra slammers and other stuffs. I push as hard so i can see my glans and shaft expand and getting thicker with the motion. But that expansion goes away when i release the grip as the massive blood i push go back in to my body or whatever. It's not like the expansion stays there when i release grip or after the exercise. When i edge afterwards it's my regular girth size. My EQ is rock hard and veiny.

Though at random times my girth can be a little bit higher somedays to 11,7 from 11,5 for an example. This is my sign grow are close by. Suddenly with same metod my new regular size is 11,7. And later i'm sniffing at 11,9cm suddenly sometimes until it goes permanent. But those increases i usually see at off days or when i just randomly edge, not directly after a session.

I don't know how to explain it better.An expansion is not the blood that you bring in the head of the penis when you jelq,it's a temporary increase of your girth.It should last for a few hours.
Answer this please :

-What girth exercises do you do?
-How erect are you when you do them?
-For how long do you train?
-Any kind of information on your routine.

Even if you do 1 min of jelqing you should see a tiny expansion.Getting no expansion is a sign of failed workout.
 
You guys are making him more confused XD. If you're getting expansion with jelqs that's perfect do jelqs all day.
When you finish your session the expansion starts to heal, and soon you have energy to do more jelqs. Just do jelqs all the time so the expansion doesn't have that much time to heal. Using this technique your cock will always be working to regenerate itself which brings more blood flow into it which helps you jelq :blush:.
 
ChilDsh;673846 said:
I don't know how to explain it better.An expansion is not the blood that you bring in the head of the penis when you jelq,it's a temporary increase of your girth.It should last for a few hours.
Answer this please :

-What girth exercises do you do?
-How erect are you when you do them?
-For how long do you train?
-Any kind of information on your routine.

Even if you do 1 min of jelqing you should see a tiny expansion.Getting no expansion is a sign of failed workout.

Yes i get that. Wonder what makes it fail then? I still am gaining though so it just seems weird.

I have mixed up a lot but this is basically what i do: warm up - bundled stretches - tunica tugs - dld stretches - squeezes - jelqing 10minutes ( v-jelq, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ujs[/words], regular, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] )
And my own variation of supra slammers.
Done!

Right after my girth session yesterday my erect meg was still 11,5cm. 1hour later when i edged after reading this thread i had 11,7 meg instead.

When i do my jelqs i'm about 70-90% erect. Squeezes at 40-50% Ulis/supra slammers 100% [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] 90/100%

I have varied a lot but this is what i'm going to stay consistent with and see what happens.
 
habban;673787 said:
You make it sound like it's a bad thing it only happens during exercise. How should i gain then you mean? ;)

When i see my penis expand like this during exercise it really feels like i'm doing the right thing. When doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] as this site provides you also get expansion during exercise. But when i'm not doing the exercise and after workout i have my regular sized boner. You say i am doing something wrong then?

Isn't temporary gains only edema or fluid buildup or whatever it is called? Should i aim for a temporary girth expansion instead? I think that has never happend to me.

It's not a bad thing during the exercise, I'm just saying it's not the effect you're looking for. Continue expanding during your exercise its all good because that's the point. Aim for anything that gets you bigger. You're not doing anything wrong.
Keep working on it and implement more girth exercises :)
 
habban;673853 said:
Yes i get that. Wonder what makes it fail then? I still am gaining though so it just seems weird.

I have mixed up a lot but this is basically what i do: warm up - bundled stretches - tunica tugs - dld stretches - squeezes - jelqing 10minutes ( v-jelq, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ujs[/words], regular, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] )
And my own variation of supra slammers.
Done!

Right after my girth session yesterday my erect meg was still 11,5cm. 1hour later when i edged after reading this thread i had 11,7 meg instead.

When i do my jelqs i'm about 70-90% erect. Squeezes at 40-50% Ulis/supra slammers 100% [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] 90/100%

I have varied a lot but this is what i'm going to stay consistent with and see what happens.

You have some length exercises there,why?Try to keep length and girth separated,puting them on the same routine won't be that effective.

Any girth exercise should be done at 100 % hard or close to that,try and stay in the 95-100 % area.This is what i recommend you to do :

Warm up
Bundles - 5 - 10 min
Jelqing + [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] = Just play with them.You can do something like 10 min jelq + 10 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] , 3 times,or something like that.30 min of girth workout should be great
Warm down
Cock ring applied at the base of the penis for as much as possible ( if you have no cock ring try and replace it with a shoelace or something like that )

Remember,stay as hard as possible.Watch adult entertainment while doing the girth work to make sure you're 100 % hard.
 
Longth;673801 said:
For length the concept is retaining elongation. They're basically the same concept from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words], but the methods are obviously different. For retaining elongation the most common method is wrapping. See the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]uncle Jim[/words]'s strap for examples. Basically, the more you keep it stretched out the better your odds are at retaining the temporary length gains and converting them to permanent gains. It's also not easy and being relentless is really the best bet.

For the ring, I recommend putting it on while erect and make sure it's not so tight that an erection is painful. It should still be tight while erect so it is snug when you get flaccid. I would highly recommend an adjustable ring for all day uses. Just because it's going to vary a lot and it stands to reason that your size will change and you'll wish you had an adjustable ring to compensate for the gains.

I use something like this.

http://www.amazon.com/California-Exotic-Novelties-Lasso-Cock/dp/B0041HF4G

And if it gets to be irritating on the skin you can just get a strip of cotton to use as a barrier. I personally use a cotton polyester blend hand towel which I use as a loose wrap as well. Keeps me a little elongated and it makes it warm so I have that jelly state everyone loves to talk about pretty much all the time. That's just a suggestion. Just be aware you might want to prepare to use something for your comfort.

Best answer!
 
Thank you all. How many days could you do girth exercises? I found them funny to do, was going for 1 on 1 off. But i feel i want do more somehow.
 
When you get comfy with them you can train everyday. I imagine you aren't so nooby just from looking at your regime
 
Transition it like shifting gears on a car. Raise the rpm to a point where you have both great expansion, and great eq understand yes? If your eq starts to hurt from overtraining your expansion will suffer subsequently
 
I wonder.. About that theory that you shouldn't focus girth first because it will make length gains more difficult. Is that theory true?
 
Its a theory like everything else we discuss. The focus is how something works not why, so if your training works then no need to investigate further. Why make life more difficult instead do your routine everyday, and when something seems awry just report yourself:blush:
 
habban;673946 said:
I wonder.. About that theory that you shouldn't focus girth first because it will make length gains more difficult. Is that theory true?

I get into the same questionings sometimes,but yeah overthinking can be counterproductive n sometimes can be useless too...

Better start your routine DLD has spent years working hard n researching n i think he s offering the best you can get..:)
 
To finish off, if i would like to get the best of both worlds, length and girth gains at same time spectrum. As i have knowledged i'm pretty decent gainer in both areas. How should i set up my routine? Not exercises, just how i should focus and what i should think about, tips. Basically how i should play my cards. Questions like should i do an entire length only routine in the morning and an entire girth only routine in the evening etc? And give me tips how to do this without the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] method and devices for now. Haven't fixed those things yet.

Thanks :)
 
do both the same day girth n lenght if you have the time,is a great thing..

girth sessions are great cause you can stimulate your self n have a shooting at the end of your session..

once your penis is more malleable you can start whit your lenght routine...:)
 
habban;673957 said:
To finish off, if i would like to get the best of both worlds, length and girth gains at same time spectrum. As i have knowledged i'm pretty decent gainer in both areas. How should i set up my routine? Not exercises, just how i should focus and what i should think about, tips. Basically how i should play my cards. Questions like should i do an entire length only routine in the morning and an entire girth only routine in the evening etc? And give me tips how to do this without the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] method and devices for now. Haven't fixed those things yet.

Thanks :)

Slammers, size blasters, anything with a long duration uli. Stuff like that forces things out and up. Bundled stretching should be used before every routine. No days off. Instead just scatter less intense days every 3 days or so. Multiple sessions per day. Die hard consistency and a rigid schedule. Ring for girth retention. Wrapping for elongation retention. Kegels. Tons of kegels. Heat during down time. Creams for skin irritation. Pre fatigue. Eat right. Sleep well. Fitness training. Quit smoking.

The more of these little things you commit to, the better off you are. It's not easy, but if it were, everyone would be dld sized. Don't be overwhelmed either. A lot of it is just logical next steps for what you're already doing. So, while a list might seem daunting, the reality is really just a few simple extra steps.

Other option, just do what you've been doing to gain length but with a ton of kegels. Then go ham on girth work. Your eq would be crazy by then and the whole girth training experience would be so much easier. And doing lots of kegels goes great with length work if you do them enough to exhaust your pc muscle the whole day. Personally, if I didn't think I could get 8nbp by losing weight, this would be what I would do.

It's all your option. Take what you need and leave the rest as they say.
 
habban;673897 said:
Thank you all. How many days could you do girth exercises? I found them funny to do, was going for 1 on 1 off. But i feel i want do more somehow.

What do you mean how many days?PE should be done everyday,only take a day off when you're injured,other reasons are just excuses.For the best and the fastest gains,train daily.
 
ChilDsh;673980 said:
What do you mean how many days?PE should be done everyday,only take a day off when you're injured,other reasons are just excuses.For the best and the fastest gains,train daily.

Ye i have just heard that rest days are good for healing. And during healing the gains appear. If i tug on my dick 24/7 my penis will not get enough time to heal what has to be healed to visualize gains. You take rest days on the gym for same reason i guess? :)
 
habban;673988 said:
Ye i have just heard that rest days are good for healing. And during healing the gains appear
But what do you believe?
 
habban;673957 said:
To finish off, if i would like to get the best of both worlds, length and girth gains at same time spectrum. As i have knowledged i'm pretty decent gainer in both areas. How should i set up my routine? Not exercises, just how i should focus and what i should think about, tips. Basically how i should play my cards. Questions like should i do an entire length only routine in the morning and an entire girth only routine in the evening etc? And give me tips how to do this without the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] method and devices for now. Haven't fixed those things yet.

Thanks :)

Yes,this is right,keep length and girth separated.You need different mind sets for each of them so putting them all together won't get as effective.

just how i should focus and what i should think about, tips.

When you do length there is not much to thing about,you just stretch.Make sure you are as flaccid as possible and just stretch.

When you do girth on the other side you need to be in a sexual mood,you need to be as erect as possible.What i do before a girth workout ( 1 h - 30 min ) is , i start to enter that sexy mood.I start watching some NSFW picture for 1 min or something like that,just to prepare my brain and my dick to stay erect for the duration of the training.

And give me tips how to do this without the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] method and devices for now. Haven't fixed those things yet.

I will try to give you the best manual routine possible for you,but remember,if you have no devices and you do not follow the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] principles you will gain slowly,so you need to be patient.You should at least follow some principles in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] like not wearing underwear.Undewear will squash your penis and you don't want that.You want to keep it as extended as possible.So,i think this is a principle you could follow.Or if you cannot give up on underwear,wear loose ones.

Length routine / Morning ( or evening,it's important to keep them separated,doesn't matter if you do length in the morning and girth in the evening or viceversa ) :

Warm up-5min

Bundles-5-10min

Basic Stretching: 3 Sets of each stretch below
Behind The Cheeks to the Left: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Center: 30-seconds
Behind The Cheeks to the Right: 30-seconds

Straight Down to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Down to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Down Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Out to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Out to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Out Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Straight Up to the Left: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Center: 30-seconds
Straight Up to the Right: 30-seconds
Straight Up Rotary Stretches: 25-Cranks

Warm down:5min

Additional exercises : If you feel like the routine above is not strong enough or you want to add more exercises,try this :

Foot long stretch : Very powerful stretch,imo the strongest manual stretch ever , and it's a very underrate exercise,you use your leg's strength and you generate a lot of power. : 3 sets , 30 sec. http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/10117-dld-foot-long-stretch-graphic-version.html

Mandingo stretch : Careful with it,it's a powerful stretch to release the inner penis :3 sets , 30 sec http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/55350-the-mandingo-stretch-as-named-by-blue-whale.html

DLD Duel Double Stretch : powerful stretch created by DLD recently :3 sets,30 sec http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/86704-dld-duel-double-stretch-should-have-thought-of-this-years-ago.html

Girth routine / Evening :

Warm up:5 min

Bundles :5-10 min

Jelqing : 500 jelqs

[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] : 10 min of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]

Warm down :5 min

You can play with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] and jelqing,you can add more time to them if you feel like they're not enough or you can take time if you feel like it's too intense for you.Your choise :)

Additional exercises

Testicle health massage : esticle Health Stretch will help your penis to hang lower in flaccid state. It will also increase blood flow to your testicles and aid in sperm count. This routine should take no longer than 5 minutes but the benefits are many.

With favorite lotion grab your scrotum just above your testicles. Now in a rubbing motion massage each testy for 30 seconds rubbing between your fingers in a gentle but firm movement. Now massage all the fluid around your testicles for 60 seconds. At this point your scrotum should be very relaxed. Finally lightly stretch your scrotum downward while the other hand pulls your penis upward. Do 60 of these. This is a very quick routine but the benefits are great. This will also aid you in any kind of early warning signs of testicular problems.

Kegels : ( kegels shouldn't be " additional " you should do the kegel exercise daily no matter what.PC Muscle Fitness/Kegels
This is an important part of your workout.
This routine can be done anywhere. The benefits of doing these are a huge part of your growth process. A mature, developed PC muscle will be paramount to future gains and penile health.

What is a kegel?
A kegel is the name of a pelvic floor exercise, named after Dr. Kegel who discovered the exercise. These muscles are attached to the pelvic bone and act like a hammock, holding in your pelvic organs. To feel this muscle movement simply stop and start the flow of urine. This isolation of the PC muscle is a kegel.

Why would I want to do kegel exercises?

• Stronger Erections
• Longer Erections due to blood hold capacity
• Larger head size
• Further ejaculatory Distance
• Sexual enjoyment is enhanced for both partners
• It can prevent prolapsed of pelvic organs
• It can help prevent leaking urine when you sneeze or cough

There you go,if you want you can follow this routine,simple and very effective,i don't think you could find a manual routine better than this,it's something like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] but a bit modified for the best results.Read the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] even though you cannot follow it,it's important to know that information.Try and stay elongated as much as possible,give up on the tight underwear and just be patient.
 
But whats up with the problem that you can't enter this website on your computer anymore? Has been like that for a long time now. Have to check everything on my phone :/
 
habban;673988 said:
Ye i have just heard that rest days are good for healing. And during healing the gains appear. If i tug on my dick 24/7 my penis will not get enough time to heal what has to be healed to visualize gains. You take rest days on the gym for same reason i guess? :)

usually at night when you sleep your body repairs and you get nocturnal erections etc... If you actually need time off you will know.

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just watch your EQ
 
habban;673897 said:
Thank you all. How many days could you do girth exercises? I found them funny to do, was going for 1 on 1 off. But i feel i want do more somehow.

Do them as much as your penis can handle. You say you're 10 months in, I'm sure you're ready for 6 days on 1 day off or everyday, just progress there, increase a day every week.
 
habban;674024 said:
But whats up with the problem that you can't enter this website on your computer anymore? Has been like that for a long time now. Have to check everything on my phone :/

What do you mean? The Mobile and Web Sites are both running perfectly.
 
Lucidity;673997 said:
You mean this one?

Kit

Ron just got back to me and recommended this one:

Kit

I'm not sure what the difference is between the two if I'm only going to be using it with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]

Yes, that is the right package. Just be sure to buy through this link: [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]
 
Guys.. I don't get it. I can't really get any expansion straight after session. I tryed now and measured 11,4 - 11,5. It's like i lose expansion. I even did step up my girth work. I did one of my best girth workouts. I really got blood going, my penis was thick during exercise, got good expansion when i did ulis etc. But after session, no temporary expansion at all. It's more like i get less expansion afterwards. Really strange? Could this mean i am the type of guy that needs less workout to see expansions and gains? I don't do anything wrong when exercising. I have correct technique and everything. It just seems weird.

Any ideas? Thank you.
 
I told you to do your exercises all day not to do a whole days exercises in one session
 
templnite;674158 said:
I told you to do your exercises all day not to do a whole days exercises in one session

What do you mean? I splitted length session morning and girth evening as you said. What theory do you even base this on, that you should split it up? I have always gained when doing everything in 1 session before. You guys really don't have any other explanation why i don't get the expansion? How does the effect even happen? "Poof! Tunica expanded due to a heavy amount of blood pressure for a very long time and couldn't take it anymore." I guess my EQ is as good as it an be right now and therefore i don't expand. My tunicas limit is reached. Now i have to make micro tears in my penis and let my penis heal and add "whatever it is" and make my penis a little bit bigger each time. I bet you guys don't even have a 10/10 superduper erection, and therefore your penis "expands" after workout to hit your tunica limit. You get more blood flow going due to exercises so your tunica gets filled with blood properly, temporarily.

Or perhaps your skin gets swollen temporarily. Just throwing theorys why you expand and i doesn't.
 
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I wasn't the one who told you to split it up that was childish. I think you are getting to a point where you max out expansion (which isn't much since you only do manuals), and try to crunch out even more, traumatizing your cock, voiding the session.

Its not so much you're a less is more cat, but that you need to time your workouts better. Don't expect to do just one very hard session, and gain alot try to go for as many reasonably hard sessions as you can (if you had a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] like we do you'd have it much simpler)
 
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I have noticed one thing. If i keegel hard when i'm 100% erect i will grow with 0,2cm. Lets say i get myself to 100% erection, then put on a clamp while i hold a keegel to lock that 0,2cm gain and trap it. Do this often could possibly make my penis increase those 0,2 in a regular state eventually. And then you keep doing same thing over and over again. Maybe clamping woule be best choice for me in the current state i'm in. Just a thought.

One day i will try a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]! Looking forward to it :)
 
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