stretching while aiming for girth?

[Girth Hammer]

I value girth more than length. But I want to present the total package when it comes to size.I got a few questions for you guys that have made gains in both departments:

1)Do you focus on length and girth at the some time?

2)Has your stretching with your girth routine help you gain in both departments?

3)How long are your sessions when you do both together?

4)If I add stretches into my routine I dont want to cut down on my girth work and I will be up to 1 1/2-2 hours each session.

-Is this to long?

-can I gain more from sessions being this long?

-have you gained more from your session being this long?

 

[Girth Hammer]

Part of me thinks stretching before girth work will help with engorgement. I never did both together or gave to much attention to length so help me out with these question if you have.

 

[Jeff Powers]

I haven't been a big gainer, but I have added a little over one inch in length and an extra .25" in girth over a three year period. Looking back on it all, I think the reason that I didn't gain more was because of over-training.....I didn't give it enough time to rest and recover between intense girth sessions.

1. To some degree I have worked length/girth together. Some folk only do length work for an extended period of time, reach the goal, then focus on girth, but I usually worked it all. I'd use jelqing, stretching, and clamping....doing the jelqs and clamping in the morning, then stretching it at night.

2. Yeah, I think the stretching and girth work together has helped. I think it all helps....you know? In other words I don't believe that stretching will ruin girth work by making it long and skinny. I haven't found that to be true for me at all. Even after some intense stretching, my girth measurements are constant.

3. When I do both together, I jelq for 15 minutes, stretch for 15, then do 20-30 minutes of slow squash jelqs and DLD bends....while being clamped. But, sometimes, if time is a problem, I'll just do the girth work later in the day or at night.

4. I haven't noticed any additional gain from doing longer workouts, but I have never really had time to do long workouts because of lack of privacy....but If you've got the time and you can work it without over-training, then I'd say go for it.

But, like I said, if I could go back and do it all over from the start, I'd take more rest days and not be so aggressive about it all. I think that's why I haven't made better gains during this time. I'm thankful for the extra inch in length and .25" in girth, but man, I wonder if it could have been more.

 

[Girth Hammer]

JP, are you taking rest days now?RED has convinced me to take rest days so I will do a 1on/1off or 2on/1off instead of doing it daily like I have in the past.

 

[Jeff Powers]

Here is what I'm doing right now...in this order in the early AM, like 5:30 in the morning:

-10-15 minute warm-up
-15 minutes of wet jelqs, slowly, at about 75% hardness, trying to keep constant pressure while I alternate hands

-After that, I'll apply just a bit more heat (hot wrap or whatever) then, when I'm back to flaccid, I'll do about 15 minutes of stretching. I'll pull straight out and hold it with both hands for 2 minutes, rest for 30 secs, then do it again, then do it again a 3rd set. Then I move on to some of those stretches that BlueWhale told us about (the bundled "mandingo" stretch). I do about 8-10 of those and hold each one for a minute.

I do this same routine six days per week with Sunday off. I feel like I can recover from this in a day since it's not overly intense. I re-started Penis Enlargement back in March and have added about 2 minutes jelq time per month, which I'll keep doing. My physiological indicators are good with this, i.e. good morning erections, no trouble with sex, etc.

THis is my morning workout, but about 2 or 3 times per week, I've been doing an additional "girth workout" later in the day, hours after the above workout. I'll clamp for 2, sometimes 3 sets of 10 minutes each. While clamped I do Slow Squash Jelqs along with some DLD bends thrown in there. The expansion is really good with this, about 1/2" bigger than my normal, everyday size. So far this week, I've only done this twice and some times I don't get the privacy I need to do this consistently, so, rest days happen out of lack of privacy.
I just wish I could get those post workout gains to become my normal size....I am just over 7" long and 5.25"mid-girth, with 5.75" base girth. My goal is to get up to 6" mid-girth. When I hit 7.5" in length, I'll really start to focus on girth more.

 

[Girth Hammer]

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[REDZULU2003]

I value girth more than length. But I want to present the total package when it comes to size.I got a few questions for you guys that have made gains in both departments:

1)Do you focus on length and girth at the some time?

2)Has your stretching with your girth routine help you gain in both departments?

3)How long are your sessions when you do both together?

4)If I add stretches into my routine I dont want to cut down on my girth work and I will be up to 1 1/2-2 hours each session.

-Is this to long?

-can I gain more from sessions being this long?

-have you gained more from your session being this long?

1) Yes, not at the moment though.

2) Yes.

3) Around 45 minutes at the most 1 hour.

4) Its too long for me and the principles I use for training, what has worked for me but it may suit you well like it has for guys on here. Someguys do gain well from that length of work. It isnt for me though and shorter intense sessions are best in my opinion.

Its not so much being able to gain more from sessions being longer and I know gym work is different to Penis Enlargement but I have to use it as an example here because the recovery & growth abilities of the body are systematic not local. In the gym you dont gain more from doing 25-30 sets and 3 hours or more in the gym, whats known as HVT - High Volume Training - and its that which causes lots of overtraining. Its better to train shorter in say 45 minutes with good intensity, to really stress the muscles and make the workout harder, its anaerobic pathways we want to hit when we build muscle not endurance and its the latter which is hit more with marathon sessions.

I see a similarity with Penis Enlargement. Longer sessions wont yield better gains than shorter ones in the longrun unless you are useing low intensity in the shorter sessions and bad form with good intensity and good form on the longerones. Still in the longterm the longer sessions can increase more injury imo and other problems.

Shorter Penis Enlargement sessions done honestly with good form and good intensity levels. You dont want to actually enjoy your sessions like its a walk in the park, but make them harder and more difficult to have your body adapt.

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[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extenders[/words] et el work because they are at such a low intensity they NEED such long periods of time to work otherwise they wouldnt work. They need hours and hours for them to even make a mark and often takes weeks if not months to see something with them. Worth it, thats for sure but my point is how come we can use one and not the other for longer sessions , this is why.

If you were useing an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] that could yank your penis at a force of say 50lbs and you wore it for hours eachday you would have to take it off at somestage and you would get injuries very soon and make no gains because it would have been such a shock to the body, the recovery abilities are scrambled and its pointless.

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[Girth Hammer]

For now on I will do 45-60 minute sessions. I was going up to 2 hours and my unit was a limp noodle the next day. I will do something that looks like this

-Erect Stretches or tugs 5-10 min.
-Jelq 15-20 min.
-Girth Hammers or Erect bend(left and right for width) 10 min.
-Girth Claws(Edging/reverse kegel/Ulis/Massage Head while Uli for more engorgement)
10-15 min.

2on/1off

Every once in a while(week or two) I will Jelq for 1-2 hours just for a shock effect.