More Skin = Faster Gains

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kong1971

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One thing that I think I have stumbled upon while doing Foreskin Restoration is the fact that it seems to help with Penis Enlargement. As you can see from my pics in the picture proof section, I have really made some good, fast gains. Now, I will admit that I am a lazy Penis Enlargementer, so the only explanation for this is the fact that I have been creating new skin.

Someone said somewhere on this site that the penis is a bag, not a rope. This is very true and applies to what I am saying. If you have a bigger bag, wouldn't you be able to pour more into it? That's why my penis looks so much fuller...I made the bag bigger.

Now, you say, won't Penis Enlargement make more skin anyway? Why do FR? The answer is simple enough. The exercises in Penis Enlargement stretch and tense the skin of the penis, true, but only for a set amount of time unless you are using some type of [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] or hanger. Most of the manual exercises are only going to stretch the skin temporarily, and it is going to snap back soon after you are done. To generate new, healthy skin, constant light tension must be applied to the skin surface over the course of the entire day.

But I don't want my foreskin back! Well, you don't have to restore all of it. I am talking about skin growth as it applies to Penis Enlargement... making your dick bigger. As you gain, your new size will take up the slack. If you feel you are getting too much slack in the skin, stop and work on Penis Enlargement exclusively until you have gained enough to fill it all up.

Foreskin Restoration is not for everyone. I love the added sensitivity and protection, and just looking more...natural. However, it can definitely be applied to Penis Enlargement--not to get gains but maybe to speed them up.

Skin stretches anyway? Actually, skin is not that stretchy. Grab the skin on the back of your hand and pull it out as far as it will go. Not far, huh? And it snaps back as soon as you let go. This elasticity and lack of give could be giving some guys problems. They can't stretch and jelq with enough intensity to create gains because their skin is so tight it quickly begins to grow damaged and painful, but with a bigger, looser skin covering, more force can be applied during Penis Enlargement with less pain and less damage. With more skin, you are going to have less injuries and stretch marks.

Circulation benefits...Your body will supply the new tissue with plenty of blood. In fact, FR generates new, more vascularized tissue...healthy tissue full of capillaries and veins. Blood is what makes your erections hard. More blood=better hard-ons, quicker recovery, healthier penis.

Get ride of turkey neck and hairy shaft. I have both from a tight circ and hate them. Each gain in length I have gotten have made them worse, until I generated enough skin for them to slide back off of my penis some. It's been a kind of give and go with that. Right now, the turkey neck is back because I have gained, but as soon as the new skin catches up it will abate a little.

More skin = more girth. Look at my pics and tell me it doesn't look plumper! My wife sure has noticed the difference in girth. It doesn't work just for length.

Better looking cock. New, healthy, vascularized skin is going to make your cock look better...better color, better skin tone. Penis Enlargement exercises can be rough on your skin and can cause discoloration and stretcHydromaxarks. But FR can give you brand-new skin. It's just got to look better!

That's it, I guess. My whole argument. I hope I made it well because several guys have PMed me asking how I have made such quick gains, and I think I know the reason for it and wanted to share it with everyone! Let me know what you think. You all know I am kind of a restoration fanatic, but I just wanted to let you know that FR can be applied to Penis Enlargement in several positive ways without going the whole route.
 
Very interesting article kong! I, personally, have noticed extra elacticity in my skin since starting Penis Enlargement, I might have to work on stretching my skin out to try out your theory :).

CYiNiSiS
 
Id love to restore my skin, but the fatc i gotta have my dick taped up for 12 months + puts me off, besides the fact i havent got any materials to keep it in place.
I think that Dry jelqing really stretches the skin out alot and will help with FR and Penis Enlargement.
 
Alright, this is what I came up for FR:

Instead of uising sticky tape, use plastic wrap! It works and it's not painful at all. I've gained some skin with this. Interested what you guys think about my idea. Never seen anyone doing this before. Seems to work!
 
I have not pe'ed in 2 months, and my penis has not gotten any smaller, and actually looks bigger.
 
Try it. Pull your skin forward and secure it in place with plastic wrap. Yeah, the type you use for food. The skin will stay in place. Alternatively, push the glans inside your shaft and secure it with the plastic wrap. My glans has started to change color in a matter of 2 weeks. Looking forward to extra sensitivity very soon and of course more skin. What do you guys think of this idea?
 
Great post kong and I agree my flaccid seems to be growing since I started using the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] in addition to my pe and I know I got looser skin from it which means maybe the bastard will grow now in the erect state.
 
Thanks! I concentrate on stretching more than anything, so the only thing that can explain my girth gain is the FR. I do very, very little jelqing. Every time I get in the john, someone in my family starts knocking! It sucks only having one bathroom!
 
Kong, I have been wondering about this exact thing for about two weeks now. I've read some posts here and elsewhere where the Penis Enlargementer did some skin pulling along with their Penis Enlargement routine. One guy put the index and middle fingers of one hand on either side of his penis at the base to pull back the skin while he jelqed with the other hand. I am circumcised so when I am hard I don't have much slack in the skin. Tight skin could very well be a limiting factor. Not the magic pill, but a definate issue that must be considered by circ'd Penis Enlargementers. Good post.
 
SyncMaster said:
Try it. Pull your skin forward and secure it in place with plastic wrap. Yeah, the type you use for food. The skin will stay in place. Alternatively, push the glans inside your shaft and secure it with the plastic wrap. My glans has started to change color in a matter of 2 weeks. Looking forward to extra sensitivity very soon and of course more skin. What do you guys think of this idea?
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This idea sounds Brilliant!!! its Easily accessible and it does actually secure to my surpise without adhesives!!!
Your tha man!
 
I was tightly circed and have a horribly ugly, very dark circ scar. What got me to thinking about FR helping Penis Enlargement was the fact that my circ scar actually constricted my penis enough over the years that I have a circular indentation where it used to rest. If it can do that, tight skin must be a limiting factor on Penis Enlargement gains. I have been trying to stretch out the c-scar but scar tissue is notoriously hard to stretch.
 
SyncMaster said:
Yeah, I know, it rocks, doesn't it?
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My only concern would be that could the plastic cause long term damage since it doesn't "breathe" ? Still, I'm going to give this a shot, I've wanted to try FR for a while but taping seemed a little too much trouble - just one more item in an already overfilled schedule.

Thanks,

wesb
 
Skin is easier to stretch than the tunica or ligs, much easier. I highly doubt gains would be slowed by the skin.

You might notice better gains from your stretches from stressing the tunica/ligs, as opposed to the skin, when your skin is not bearing much of the weight.
 
Here is a quote from another thread, this one by a member who attended medical school:

"In medical school, I did a clinical clerkship with a Urologist who remarked that he has noticed a distinct pattern over the years: as a group, uncircumcised adult males have larger penises than those who were circumcised before puberty. What accounts for this? Most likely, residual scar tissue retards the normal rate of growth during puberty. Conceivably, disruption of the native vasculature, and the all-important blood supply, might also play a role in this.

This doesn't address the specific question that you posed, but it is closely related. The scar tissue doesn't just go away, for example, nor will the native vasculature ever be quite the same. Recently, I raised two blisters on the glans during a pumping session. I laid off from pumping for a week or two, at which point one blister had healed completely, whereas evidence of the other, larger blister remained. When I resumed pumping, after about 40 minutes into the first session I raised a blister again in the same spot that was still slowly healing. It's been three or four weeks since that recurrence, yet a discolored patch of skin still betrays the injury. What is the single most important factor that affects wound healing? As any surgeon would tell you in an instant, the answer is blood supply. If you keep up with current headlines, you'll already be well aware that blood supply is paramount for tissue growth in general."

What does FR give to the practicing Penis Enlargementer? New skin that is highly vascularized!

I'm not saying that FR is going to give you gains, only that it may remove a couple of the roadblocks that keep some men from getting what they want...a bigger cock.
 
Bump for Swank and Skepdick

I'm not saying that FR is going to give you gains, only that it may remove a couple of the roadblocks that keep some men from getting what they want...a bigger cock.

Is this where I promised all restorers miraculous gains in length and girth? :D

Get a life, guys.
 
Once again, did anybody question you on this article? What's your point, nobody said a word? You're a strange man.

I will say thanks for going to all the trouble to show that often nobody breathes a word about what you claim. Yep, poor Kong, always the victim of such brutal slander.

As with the other one, there are some highly disputable claims here, but I don't so much care as the thread is clearly started just to try and drum up some interest in FR so you can discuss your own story and views with some new guys. It's a recruitment add really - FR will speed up your gains so do it! Hey, it might be true. It might not be either . . . but we can talk about that if you really want.
 
Once again, did anybody question you on this article? What's your point, nobody said a word? You're a strange man.

Strange man? For this not being a personal thing, you often have alot of disparaging remarks to make about me. I merely bumped this thread because you were accusing me of promising men miraculous gains in size from doing FR and I just wanted everyone to see here that I never did any such thing. The criticisms you've leveled against me regarding this point are completely unfounded and merely meant to hurt my credibility on this forum. That is, in fact, the only tactic you really have to use against me. You have never addressed any of my restoration ideas, only attacked my credibility and the credibility of my sources. Did you think I would never see through this ruse, and now I'd love for everyone else to see it too! Instead of admitting you are wrong, you call me strange. If I'm strange for wanting to bring the truth to light, then oh well, I guess I'm strange!

I will say thanks for going to all the trouble to show that often nobody breathes a word about what you claim. Yep, poor Kong, always the victim of such brutal slander.

Yes, another personal remark. Now you want them to think I am playing on their sympathy when I try bring the truth to light. I am not playing this game anymore. You've been putting words into my mouth and trying to hurt my credibility long enough. That tactic isn't going to work anymore because now it have been SEEN!

As with the other one, there are some highly disputable claims here, but I don't so much care as the thread is clearly started just to try and drum up some interest in FR so you can discuss your own story and views with some new guys. It's a recruitment add really - FR will speed up your gains so do it! Hey, it might be true. It might not be either . . . but we can talk about that if you really want.

Yes, everyone, swank thinks they're highly disputable! Oh my! He hasn't even tried FR to see for himself. He just regurgitates all the crap facts he reads on the circumfetishist websites and expects us to eat them up because he's so "fair" and "open-minded". He wants to "debate" them with me, but it is really only another chance for him to discredit me and cast a shadow of doubt on the anti-circ/restoration movement. Why don't you want others to know about restoration?
 
Just read the threads people, all these gripes have been mulled over endlessly. I don't feel any real need to defend myself here, anybody who checks out what has been written before can see what the real deal is.

The "foreskin smell" one is great, the one I started "A little more about my reasons" or something like that, um, the "confused" one is pretty good, the "psuedo-male" thread of Kong's is good.

Read those, not these pithy personal arguments. There's plenty of bickering in those, but they at least have to do with the issues of FR and circumcision on a basic level, not "Swank vs. Kong like these are all devolving into.

Read the threads fellas, make up your own minds!
 
Unlike swank, I am going to cease banging on this drum...until he tries to question my credibility or the credibility of my sources again. Especially considering that his are no more valid than mine, except in mis mind.

You have been caught, swank. Your debate tactics are underhanded, morally wrong and deceptive to the extreme. We can get along so long as you stop trying to cast me as a loony or put words into my mouth that I never said.
 
Kong, you seem to be complaining a lot about Swank attacking specifically you rather than the ideas of FR in general. but as far as i can tell, Swank never had any beef with FR, the only problem he had was with you spewing a whole lotta crap.

the issue is not FR, it is you (Kong) talking ridiculous shit about FR.
 
Hmm, Kong's Loony and I'm morally corrupt. What an interesting place . . .

Fine by me guy, guess I've been busted.

Remember men - when you read a conversation between Kong and myself, always keep in mind that I'm a deceptive, manipulative schemer that tricks poor Kong for no reason and makes no valid points. Every issue I raise is just subterfuge for my pro-circumcision propaganda.

Just in case, read the threads for yourselves and make up your own minds, don't let Kong, or me, do it for you.
 
Kong, you seem to be complaining a lot about Swank attacking specifically you rather than the ideas of FR in general. but as far as i can tell, Swank never had any beef with FR, the only problem he had was with you spewing a whole lotta crap.

Why is it crap? Because you think it's crap? I think it's pathetic to butt into the FR section when you think it's just a bunch of made-up stuff. Does that make you pathetic, or is that just me being ole krazy kong again? Hey, why don't you go and be someone else's blind follower some more?

the issue is not FR, it is you (Kong) talking ridiculous shit about FR.

No, the issue is swank making it all look like ridiculous shit when he has no valid arguments and can only attack my credibility or the credibility of my sources of information.
 
kong1971 said:
Kong, you seem to be complaining a lot about Swank attacking specifically you rather than the ideas of FR in general. but as far as i can tell, Swank never had any beef with FR, the only problem he had was with you spewing a whole lotta crap.

Why is it crap? Because you think it's crap? I think it's pathetic to butt into the FR section when you think it's just a bunch of made-up stuff. Does that make you pathetic, or is that just me being ole krazy kong again? Hey, why don't you go and be someone else's blind follower some more?

the issue is not FR, it is you (Kong) talking ridiculous shit about FR.

No, the issue is swank making it all look like ridiculous shit when he has no valid arguments and can only attack my credibility or the credibility of my sources of information.
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since when did i say FR is all made up crap? and how am i "butting in" in the FR section, last i checked i was alowd to post where ever i dam well like on this forum.

and for christ sake, if i agree with Swank how the hell does that make me a blind follower.
 
So what, in your opinion, is real FR and what is the "ridiculous shit"? You should be able to tell me since you've done it yourself, right?

Or do you need to wait for swank to outline that for you?

whatever, dude. Have a good night. I'm signing off and you can say whatever personal bullshit you can think of about me that you want. Saying it doesn't make it reality, and from now on, I am just going to give what I get.

You think I spew a whole lotta crap and ridiculous shit.

I think you let other people do your thinking for you.
 
what are you talking about!?!? your makin jack all sense and bringing up points that have nothing to do with anything.

your talking rediculous shit about FR, what the hell does that have to do with me defining "real" FR.

christ, i really should stop talking to you, your so frustrating. i feel like im having an argument with jessica simpson.
 
Why won't this go away.... personal attacks...I'm right and you're wrong... FR has some benefits... and it also has draw backs... you guys getting all into each other's hair is not cool.... let it rest... good grief... FR is good stuff... Kong is a supporter of FR and anticircumcision... SH and Swank are presenting a case against the benefits of FR, and that's fine too... but in all honesty someone has to be right... For Kong in his situation being butchered as he has described his circumcision FR would be a useful tool for him so that he could enjoy sex.... I can't really imagine how bad it was to tear your skin if you got too rough in bed with your wife...that's pretty brutal... so for him to actually have moveable skin is a big step up... so yes FR has it's benefits... subjective or objective... there's plenty of evidence to support him... and it's personal experience, he's the best judge of that... Personally I like FR, even though it's tedious and sometimes a bit of an irritant... but for the most part I'm glad I'm persuing it... I can say that my glans is softer, the skin folds quite neatly over the glans mostly now... and it's actually improved my flaccid hang.... As of recently I've really gotten over the whole Penis Enlargement thing... I still Penis Enlargement but it's not such a big deal to me if I'm not at my goal yet... I'll take my time to get there... This probably has nothing to do with FR... but it's all relative since in all things involved with this board we don't know exactly how it works.... why some make gains and others don't... it's not exact but every little bit helps to complete the puzzle... FR is part of that puzzle for some... just like hanging is to length... and clamping is for girth... you can do it all with your hands but for some it's just another piece of their puzzle....
 
millionman, have you read any of the posts? Swank, and me have never ever tried to argue against the benefits of FR.

im all for FR, i've never said anything against it. i've only ever spoke out against kongs claims, never against FR in general.
 
Exactly!

We should be talking about making the puzzle fit right. I don't know everything. I don't have all the answers. Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong. I don't mind talking about anything, so long as it isn't called bullshit right from the start. You call it bullshit and there is no debate. It becomes an argument with everyone taking sides.

All I ever said was that FR might give some men faster gains. It seemed to help with me. There was some anecdotal evidence to support it from other restorers and there seemed to be some medical basis for it as well when talking about botched circumcisions with scarring and too much skin removed. It all makes sense if you don't let it get overblown. Next thing you know, I'm being accused of telling everyone that it would give you 10 inches in gains! It was done purposefully, too!

Do I think it will give you a huge horse cock?

Nope. Never said it.

Do I think it can, in some cases, help with gains?

Yep.

That's the title of the thread. More skin = faster gains.

The rest is just words being put in my mouth to muddy the issue and cause an uproar.
 
Shithead said:
millionman, have you read any of the posts? Swank, and me have never ever tried to argue against the benefits of FR.

im all for FR, i've never said anything against it. i've only ever spoke out against kongs claims, never against FR in general.
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read the threads yourself, shithead. the ridiculous claims I made were never made by me. they were made by swank. I said two bonehead things, that i thought circ was linked to aggression and something else, and retracted them both. the rest is bullshit never ever uttered by me at all.
 
that's what this is all about tonight. i have been accused of saying so much i didn't even know what i said and if i believed it. then i go back and look from my very first FR post and it becomes quite obvious. if i'm anything, it's a fool for being so completely manipulated and allowing someone to make me look so foolish. i won't allow that to happen again. it's all lowkey and polite until swank gets involved. i have to admit, tho, that he knows how to push those buttons! he's good!

you believe what you want. Just do me a favor and keep your opinions to yourself until you read ALL the threads and try FR for yourself. I don't think that's unreasonable.
 
kong1971 said:
Bump for Swank and Skepdick
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Ya know Kong, for someone who CLAIMS to be personally hurt by all of these posts and threads which debate your FR claims, and for someone who keeps CLAIMING that they are done on the subject/done debating with Swank and myself/done being a MOD/done being a member on the forum bc you just can't deal with it you sure do like to stir up shit. Why else would you ressurrect all these threads "for Swank and Skepdick." I have been pretty diplomatic up to this point but I will just go out and say that it should be clear to anyone just how full of shit you are at this point. I am done on the matter of FR unless you drag me back in.
 
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Skepdick said:
Ya know Kong, for someone who CLAIMS to be personally hurt by all of these posts and threads which debate your FR claims, and for someone who keeps CLAIMING that they are done on the subject/done debating with Swank and myself/done being a MOD/done being a member on the forum bc you just can't deal with it you sure do like to stir up shit. Why else would you ressurrect all these threads "for Swank and Skepdick." I have been pretty diplomatic up to this point but I will just go out and say that it should be clear to anyone just how full of shit you are at this point. I am done on the matter of FR unless you drag me back in.
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Umm, maybe after reading all the latest posts between you and swank in the confused thread, I thought the truth needed to come out about what I really think and claim. Would you sit idly by and let a couple other dudes run you down constantly? Especially when most of what they say are lies? Nope, didn't think so. Over the next few days, I will be going back over the basics and RE-iterating what I believe FR can do and what I have experienced. It will be what I really believe and not all this miracle crap that you keep attributing to me, which is in fact bogus and spread over the last 6 months by swank. I am not going to let you guys keep putting words in my mouth or undermining my credibility. In the end, it will be obvious who is full of shit. This is all so ridiculous I can't even begin to describe it, as all my official claims about the benefits of restoration are stickied right at the top! You want to attack me personally and call me a liar and a kook and full of shit, you can take it elsewhere, cause what I claim is right up there at the top in black and white.
 
Kong skin is very elastic,if it wasn't it wouldn't spring back on the back of your hand when you leave go of it,a bit like a rubber band.

If having extra skin means faster gains from Penis Enlargement then shouldn't uncut men make the quickist gains?

I'm uncut and its take 2.5 years of dedicated peing to gain just over an inch in length and .5 in girth.

Also can you tell me what you mean when you talk about having a hairy shaft from being cut,i have hair that grows half way down the front of my shaft and 3/4 of the way down the back of the shaft,i just shave it off.
 
I am uncut as well and my girth gains have been very slow. My length gains when implementing a length routine are very quick but I don't think this has to do with having a foreskin.
 
Being uncut pretty much eliminates skin from the equation as far as Penis Enlargement gains go. The real question is how much of an effect circumcision has on Penis Enlargement gains. I think it runs the spectrum from NO EFFECT to SEVERE EFFECT. If we look at it that way, FR can be employed as a tool to quicken the newbie gains phase and get that trapped percentage of penis out fast. If some of us here can get past the cut/uncut controversy and look at it objectively without trying to stir shit or blow it out of proportion, maybe we can come up with some ideas on how to detect trapped penis, how to free it quick, and get down to the business of getting huge! Alot of guys are balking at the whole issue because of the FR angle, but it doesn't have to be so. Use the skin expansion trick to help pull out some fast, decent gains! Not going to work for uncut or loose cut guys, tho!
 
Skin stretches AS you Penis Enlargement. You stretch the skin as you jelq and stretch. I had a perfect circumcision, my skin isnt tight, my penis was obviously not altered in size due to circumcision, IMO, (naturally with little Penis Enlargement 8x5.75), I only hook a little left due to masturbation and putting pressure on shaft certain ways when I do it. I do have some horizontal stretch marks, very small, which I can say were from skin stretching manually or natural growth.

I never had a problem with skin and many circumcized men will attest to the same thing. The skin stretches way more readily than the multiplcation/expansion of tissue in the penis and stretching of the ligaments. Skin is pretty much a moot issue in Penis Enlargement since it can be stretched so easily overtime. Penis Enlargement gains can be pretty wishy washy depending, sometimes they come sometimes they go, sometimes they wont come forever, but if you try stretching just the skin it can be pretty easy, IMO.

Anyhow, just my opinion. And from the opinions of uncut men, it seems there is no advantage in Penis Enlargement to it, it simply varies. One finaly note, many uncut men have actually complained about the foreskin being "bothersome" and "in the way" when Penis Enlargementing.
 
Skin stretches easier than scar tissue. I'll give you that. You can't say that no one has problems with it because you personally had a good, loose circ-- which is something I hear from alot of hung, loose cut guys. What about the rest of us?

And, yes, "trapped penis" has nothing to do with uncut guys. I think that's pretty much understood.
 
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