Intro from a Former Lurker (and some ROP results)

I think I recognize what he is hiding at his base. It looks like the leather strap that comes with Kaplan pumps. I know becouse I just bought one.

So he is probably pumped and ¨clamped¨ with it.

About the ROP, I would comment, but I am still trying to sell a couple to get rid of the extra materials from when I made mine. I don´t want to sound like I´m trying to promote the ROP, never had and never will. But if asked, I will tell what I think about it. I will say though that I don´t think its BS at all.
 
Why do I always get dragged into this ROP bullshit? It isn't fair. I never had anything to do with the ROP, never sold it, never promoted it and never gave two shits about it. I don't know if it works or does not work and I don't care. All I ever cared about was making you guys see the pure hypocrisy of circumcision and letting you know what some of the benefits of FR might be. If you got burned by Supra or the ROP, I feel bad for you, but it has nothing to do with FR. I never made the outrageous claims attributed to me by my detractors here. If you will reread all the way back to the original FR threads, you will never hear me promise anything unequivocably, only say that THE BENEFITS OF FR DEPenis EnlargementND ON THE DAMAGE DONE BY THE ORIGINAL CIRC. I still stand by that. The catch is, most men don't know what circumcision has actually done to them. Because we're almost ALL cut, turkey neck, lack of sensation, tight skin, etc are all considered normal conditions of the penis. Whatever. Most of the claims I made are stickied right at the very top of the FR forum because of this repeated personal slander. If anyone is curious about FR and its benefits, please read the stickies. If anyone would like to debate any claims I've made, I have plenty of documentation, scientific studies and whatnot saved onto my hard drive ready for you.
 
Skepdick said:
Both are bad but for entirely different reasons. I think that the ROP could have been produced (in bulk) for more like 1-2 dollars apeice. That being said, EVERYthing about the opening post in this thread is pure male fantasy and yes, that is some sort of cock ring, the guy is clamped and still probly a ways away from the 7 inch girth he claims. I don't know why guys get off lying about their dick size to other guys on an anonymous forum.
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How is FR bad, skepdick? Why don't you just be honest and tell everyone the truth. You tried it for a little while, it didn't do what you thought it would and now you're bitter about it. Thing is, I just don't think you tried very hard. FR requires dedication and patience, and you just didn't see it through. Don't blame me for your lack of fortitude. I've been doing this for almost 2 years now. It takes an real effort. It's not a magical electric ring you stick on your weiner. I say this as a friend. Research it with an open mind, make a real and determined effort, and do it right. You will see the benefits we restorers speak of. Everyone wants a quick fix. FR is not that thing. FR is something that requires a much greater effort... and because of that, you know there has to be something to it. Do you think I would still be here 2 YEARS LATER if I didn't truly believe? Do you think I would keep putting up with your BS if I didn't think it was monumentally important? It's not like I make $50 every time someone decides to give FR a try. Stop running FR down just because you're too lazy to do it right.
 
kong1971 said:
How is FR bad, skepdick? Why don't you just be honest and tell everyone the truth. You tried it for a little while, it didn't do what you thought it would and now you're bitter about it. Thing is, I just don't think you tried very hard. FR requires dedication and patience, and you just didn't see it through. Don't blame me for your lack of fortitude. I've been doing this for almost 2 years now. It takes an real effort. It's not a magical electric ring you stick on your weiner. I say this as a friend. Research it with an open mind, make a real and determined effort, and do it right. You will see the benefits we restorers speak of. Everyone wants a quick fix. FR is not that thing. FR is something that requires a much greater effort... and because of that, you know there has to be something to it. Do you think I would still be here 2 YEARS LATER if I didn't truly believe? Do you think I would keep putting up with your BS if I didn't think it was monumentally important? It's not like I make $50 every time someone decides to give FR a try. Stop running FR down just because you're too lazy to do it right.
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Dude would you shut the fuck up and stop creating drama?!?!?! I didn't even mention you or FR, this thread has nothing to do with you. If you hadn't noticed, ever since you left and said you wouldn't be back for a "looooooooooooong time", made a total ass out of yourself, and then came back, I HAVEN'T DEBATED ANY OF THIS FR CRAP WITH YOU! You're now doing to me what you did to Swank, initiating drama.
 
Skepdick said:
Both are bad but for entirely different reasons. I think that the ROP could have been produced (in bulk) for more like 1-2 dollars apeice. That being said, EVERYthing about the opening post in this thread is pure male fantasy and yes, that is some sort of cock ring, the guy is clamped and still probly a ways away from the 7 inch girth he claims. I don't know why guys get off lying about their dick size to other guys on an anonymous forum.
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You did say it was bad, or maybe I misunderstood your intent. However, I just want you to be clear on why you think it is bad. I hate to think you might influence someone away from FR if it might help them just because you keep talking about what a scam it is and how it doesn't work without anything to back that up but a chip on the shoulder. I also think you shouldn't curse at me, as my post to you was pretty civil.
 
WHoaaa... Kong. I'm the one who brought up your name to start with and I don't believe I said ANYTHING about FR. What I was comparing was YOUR threats to ban members and Supra deleting post if anyone had anything bad to say about his 50 dollar ROPs.

Go back and read it, post 6 of this thread. That is the ONLY thing I mentioned that brought your name into this and it is a reasonable comparison(MOD Power abuse)

But, in your case, you did what you did because I believe you to be very passionate and somewhat fanatical about your beliefs in FR and circ. Most believe what Supra did he did because he did not want damage his sale of ROP's by letting negative threads get started about it.

Please Kong....go back and read the original post from this thread that mentioned your name...it should be mine and should be #5-6
 
kong1971 said:
How is FR bad, skepdick?
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I never said it was, reread the original post. He asked me what I thought about your rediculous claims (and even YOU have admitted to have bullshitted us on occasion about those).
kong1971 said:
Why don't you just be honest and tell everyone the truth. You tried it for a little while, it didn't do what you thought it would and now you're bitter about it. Thing is, I just don't think you tried very hard. FR requires dedication and patience, and you just didn't see it through.
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This is true, I tried it for a day or two. Then I reread some of your ridiculous claims and looked back at your progress (or lack thereof) pictures and realized that I wouldn't get any benefits from it which is fine. What is NOT true is that I am bitter about it. I really don't care one way or the other. Your attempts to psychoanalyze are once again pathetic
kong1971 said:
Don't blame me for your lack of fortitude.
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When and where did I blame you?
kong1971 said:
I've been doing this for almost 2 years now. It takes an real effort. It's not a magical electric ring you stick on your weiner. I say this as a friend. Research it with an open mind, make a real and determined effort, and do it right. You will see the benefits we restorers speak of. Everyone wants a quick fix. FR is not that thing. FR is something that requires a much greater effort... and because of that, you know there has to be something to it.
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I don't really want the foreskin back and I DO think that there were many benefits to the ROP in the way you promoted it (basically as a "cure all" to any sexual ailment a person could have, and it didn't stop with the sexual realm, you made ricidulous claims about circumcision causing aggression in men and such). Not to mention the way you attempted to silence any opposing viewpoints by threatening to ban the members who disagreed with you.
kong1971 said:
Do you think I would still be here 2 YEARS LATER if I didn't truly believe? Do you think I would keep putting up with your BS if I didn't think it was monumentally important? It's not like I make $50 every time someone decides to give FR a try. Stop running FR down just because you're too lazy to do it right.
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I have seen your pictures and I am sure you are full of shit about your size, gains, and FR progress. It doesn't matter whether you have been here for 2 days, 2 years, or 200 years. I never doubted for a moment that you believe all the nonsense you preach. When you keep lying over and over, it becomes hard to distinguish between what is and isn't reality.
 
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kong1971 said:
You did say it was bad, or maybe I misunderstood your intent. However, I just want you to be clear on why you think it is bad. I hate to think you might influence someone away from FR if it might help them just because you keep talking about what a scam it is and how it doesn't work without anything to back that up but a chip on the shoulder. I also think you shouldn't curse at me, as my post to you was pretty civil.
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Kooky brought you up, I merely responded to his question. Get the fuck off my back.
 
That was some pretty funny shit AC.

Do yo think I have become to nice in my post?

Do you think I was out of hand by making my initial observation?
 
koooky said:
WHoaaa... Kong. I'm the one who brought up your name to start with and I don't believe I said ANYTHING about FR. What I was comparing was YOUR threats to ban members and Supra deleting post if anyone had anything bad to say about his 50 dollar ROPs.

Go back and read it, post 6 of this thread. That is the ONLY thing I mentioned that brought your name into this and it is a reasonable comparison(MOD Power abuse)

But, in your case, you did what you did because I believe you to be very passionate and somewhat fanatical about your beliefs in FR and circ. Most believe what Supra did he did because he did not want damage his sale of ROP's by letting negative threads get started about it.

Please Kong....go back and read the original post from this thread that mentioned your name...it should be mine and should be #5-6
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I apologize for misunderstanding the intent of that. Yes, I am guilty of losing my cool. However, I do seem to catch alot of shit that should actually be thrown Supra's way. I may have went apeshit a few times, but I have never and would never delete posts or try to deceive someone to make a few bucks. Asshole, yes. Mod power abuse, no.
 
I never said it was, reread the original post. He asked me what I thought about your rediculous claims (and even YOU have admitted to have bullshitted us on occasion about those).

I have joked around at times. Do you really think I was serious when I said FR gave you psychic powers? The objective and subjective benefits of FR are stickied at the top of the FR forum.

This is true, I tried it for a day or two. Then I reread some of your ridiculous claims and looked back at your progress (or lack thereof) pictures and realized that I wouldn't get any benefits from it which is fine. What is NOT true is that I am bitter about it. I really don't care one way or the other. Your attempts to psychoanalyze are once again pathetic

When and where did I blame you?

"Shut the fuck up", "Get the fuck off my back", "ridiculous", "pathetic"... Umm, okay. Anyhoo, I won't try to psychoanalyze you anymore.

I don't really want the foreskin back and I DO think that there were many benefits to the ROP in the way you promoted it (basically as a "cure all" to any sexual ailment a person could have, and it didn't stop with the sexual realm, you made ricidulous claims about circumcision causing aggression in men and such). Not to mention the way you attempted to silence any opposing viewpoints by threatening to ban the members who disagreed with you.

Stickies, stickies, stickies...

My ridiculous claims are actually based on published professional research papers and articles. Would you care to view one?

http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/boyle6/

I never threatened to ban anyone who did not agree with me. I only attempted to ban some few who tried to disrupt the FR forum so that they could silence information they found unpalatable. You have your view on that and I have mine.

I have seen your pictures and I am sure you are full of shit about your size, gains, and FR progress. It doesn't matter whether you have been here for 2 days, 2 years, or 200 years. I never doubted for a moment that you believe all the nonsense you preach. When you keep lying over and over, it becomes hard to distinguish between what is and isn't reality.

"Full of shit...", "nonsense...", "lying over and over..." Nothing personal there, right? It does get tiresome being called a liar all the time. Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to kids who stick their fingers in their ears and cry "lalalalalala!" I'm trying to learn to not let it bother me. I know not everyone falls for the "kong is a lying nut" routine. I'm going to be posting some FR update photos later tonight. Maybe you can find a few minutes to come and dispute them. Should be fun...!
 
PS-- AC is right. I respect him for having the balls to call this "lurker" out. This thread is nothing but bullshit from start to finish. It should be trashed.
 
Look Kong, I am only making a comparison. That's it. Between what recently went on in the FR forum with you as a MOD and what Supra did when he was a MOD. And, I am in a way defending you because where you do admitedly come of assholish at times, you never tried to profit one cent from anything you tried to tell people. It is only the two most recent instances I am comparing is all.

Am I the only one who found it odd now we have "newbies" and "lurkers" all with great things to say about the ROP after such a long hiatus with nothing but bad being said about it?

Kooky
 
kong1971 said:
PS-- AC is right. I respect him for having the balls to call this "lurker" out. This thread is nothing but bullshit from start to finish. It should be trashed.
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Too many threads where you make a total ass out of yourself get trashed, lets leave this one.
 
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