Now in the start my EQ was worse so that counts for some of it considering the rest of the measurements I edged twice and got really the maximum size for the measurement.

First measurements 9.10.2014 (flip 9 and 10 if american)
5.7 BPEL (BAD EQ) 6.37 BPFSL 4.8 EG

12.10.14

6.3 BPEL 6.65 BPFSL

14.10.14

6.5 BPEL 6.77 BPFSL

15.10.14

6.5 BPEL 6.89 BPFSL

16.10

6.7 BPEL 7 BPFSL

18.10 6.77 BPEL 7.32 BPFSL
21.10 stopped length exercises prioritizing girth exercises to reach 6" girth before getting too long.

So far all I've done is BTC stretches 30-50sec to the right, left and sometimes to middle. I've done 4 to 8 sets of those over the course of day, not all at once. On top of those I've done moderate few second stretches while on the computer to keep it elongated. In the shower I've done some kind of jelqs that target glans for like 2 minutes per day.

I didn't really expect this big gains so fast but I'd like to think some of it is due to me doing heavy squats 3 days a week to increase HGH and other beneficial stuff.

I got [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] on the way so I'll add the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]+slowsquashjelq to my PE routine but otherwise I won't change it until I hit the plateau with this.

My ultimate goal is 8.6x6.6 but first goal is 7.5x6 where I plan to keep it for longer time.. I don't want girls turning me down for having too big dick (browsed other discussion site/r/bigdickproblems and it seemed to happen to some guys... although I feel like they were just using that as an excuse why they didn't score with a chick).
 
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wtf this is madness can i gain like you please i wanna be 9 already but 10 end goal do you have before and after photos ?
 
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jacob5414;612948 said:
wtf this is madness can i gain like you please i wanna be 9 already but 10 end goal do you have before and after photos ?

Nah I dont have a cam with good enough quality and I figured I don't need a pic as long as I remember in the start it was average thus small.
 
There must be something in the water at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Matters of Size[/words] lately, we are seeing a lot of huge newbie gains over the past month.
 
I would love to conduct a study on all the men that get these amazingly fast gains and try to see what they are doing that others are not.
 
doublelongdaddy;613062 said:
I would love to conduct a study on all the men that get these amazingly fast gains and try to see what they are doing that others are not.

I thought the consensus was that a lot of these gains were mainly from upping ones EQ. Unless you can somehow zap your ligs that quick.
 
7.17" BPFSL 18.10.14 (+4mm in 2 days) I was stretching in sauna before measurement for warm up I'm usually too lazy to warm up properly. I could keep at 7.17 only for a moment so I'm not sure if the ruler bent and gave extra. Probably didn't but it's a possibility.

I've been taking 3g curcumin with 1.5g black pepper in olive oil every day might be making recovery faster. Black pepper and olive oil to increase bio availability of curcumin. It's supposed to increase muscle recovery by factor five link -> Curcumin helps damaged muscle recover faster + on top of that squats 3 times a week for HGH. Those together probably increase recovery as much as naturally possible. I'm planning to lose 20 lbs from 196lbs and I'm dieting right now so that might be affecting negatively to bone pressed gains but positively to NBPEL.

I haven't remeasured girth yet I doubt it has gained much but I'll check it before starting bathmating because 4.8 was measured with bad EQ.
 
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I thought the consensus was that a lot of these gains were mainly from upping ones EQ. Unless you can somehow zap your ligs that quick.

Many are but then we have cases where some of these men claim their erection quality was great prior to PE and since they started it remained that way These are the ones I am interested in, to see exactly why this happens to some men.
 
Second measurement today and got to 7.32 BPFSL tried to make sure ruler wasn't bending. Pretty close to full inch gain in BPFSL in 9 days.
 
mavekovis;613434 said:
Second measurement today and got to 7.32 BPFSL tried to make sure ruler wasn't bending. Pretty close to full inch gain in BPFSL in 9 days.

That's pretty quick. I was never 100% sure how EQ affected BPFSL. I guess it comes w/ the territory of a BPEL increase via EQ.

Are you using a heating pad for warmups?

You said you're in the process of dieting. Do you have much of a fat pad?

Curious to see how much of a girth gain you get even though you said you doubt much of one.
Are you getting much temp girth expansion from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]?
 
smerc;613454 said:
That's pretty quick. I was never 100% sure how EQ affected BPFSL. I guess it comes w/ the territory of a BPEL increase via EQ.

Are you using a heating pad for warmups?

You said you're in the process of dieting. Do you have much of a fat pad?

Curious to see how much of a girth gain you get even though you said you doubt much of one.
Are you getting much temp girth expansion from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]?

Fatpad is pretty significant my NBPEL is only 5.5 while BPEL is 6.77. My [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] hasn't arrived yet it was shipped on Wednesday so I'm hoping I'll get to use it tomorrow.
 
mavekovis;613522 said:
Fatpad is pretty significant my NBPEL is only 5.5 while BPEL is 6.77. My [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] hasn't arrived yet it was shipped on Wednesday so I'm hoping I'll get to use it tomorrow.

a few months of dieting will get that fat pad right down and you will get gains without even having to grow!
 
jordey;613545 said:
a few months of dieting will get that fat pad right down and you will get gains without even having to grow!

Yeah the fat pad really sucks and can make up lose a lot in visual length. Getting it down while you are gaining will bring gains so much faster and in the end your body will be in much better shape....win win situation.
 
Bathmate arrived today but they got me [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] when I ordered [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words]. I didn't open it yet.. I'm not sure if I should go through the trouble of sending it back for [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words].
Atleast I got it for the price of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words]. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Xtreme[/words] version so maybe I'll be fine with it at least with a stressball.
 
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mavekovis;613745 said:
Bathmate arrived today but they got me [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] when I ordered [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words]. I didn't open it yet.. I'm not sure if I should go through the trouble of sending it back for [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words].
Atleast I got it for the price of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words]. [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Xtreme[/words] version so maybe I'll be fine with it at least with a stressball.

I'm not sure if that sucks or if it's good? IT's the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]xtreme[/words] version correct? You mentioned only the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] before.

[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words] = $160
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] = $200
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Xtreme[/words] = $350

Depending on which one you've got:
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] = $40 price difference
[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]xtreme[/words] = $190 price difference

Now either way you look @ it. It's hitting their pockets, but they sent it to you by mistake.

You either:
A. Keep it.
B. Return it for the proper product.
C. Keep it and trade someone for an [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words] and cash or something else.
D. Ebay for $$$ and repeat the buying process hoping you get an [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words].

As far as using it. I wouldn't bother. You can try the stressball, but it could be a lousy pump and slow your chances overall for gains.
 
smerc;613755 said:
I'm not sure if that sucks or if it's good? IT's the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]xtreme[/words] version correct? You mentioned only the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] before.

ye it's [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]xtreme[/words]. I'm thinking I'll keep it since on the sizeguide on the site they would already recommend [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] for me so I should be able to get gains even if a little bit slower (maybe I can help that with doing longer sessions ? ).

Is there a big chance that [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] "slowgains" won't take me to a size where [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] would start to work efficiently ?
 
If people recommend the ball method, then go ahead and try it.
You're going to get a better pump anyways due to the added hose pump (wine vac replica). I forgot to factor that in earlier.

Give it a go and if it doesn't work to your standards you could sell or trade it on the forum.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that you have room to grow even past the 7 mark in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x30[/words]. You're just better suited for that. Not factoring any mods you do (like a ball included in the pump to regulate the vacuum better).
 
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I would keep it and I do not think you will need a stress ball, I think you will be able to get great vacuum as it is. Plus, now you have a pump for life, you will not need to upgrade later.
 
doublelongdaddy;613811 said:
I would keep it and I do not think you will need a stress ball

The stressballs seem kind of heavy. Have you ever attempted one or are other members just recommending them? Would seem like a dog ball or small cat balls would be better?
 
doublelongdaddy;613811 said:
I would keep it and I do not think you will need a stress ball, I think you will be able to get great vacuum as it is. Plus, now you have a pump for life, you will not need to upgrade later.

I'm glad to hear that ^^ I tested it today with just 3 to 4 pumps of pressure while flaccid and could feel it expanding from the first. I wanted to play it safe and only kept it on for 2 minutes. I had no problems with gator bite either :) . That might come with higher pressure, but then I'll try plastic bag mod (cut a piece of plastic bag and and cut an X in the middle for dick to go through).

I'm going to focus on girth exercises only now. 5.8" shaft and 6" glans or something like that and after that 7.2-7.5 inches length.
 
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mavekovis;614051 said:
I'm glad to hear that ^^ I tested it today with just 3 to 4 pumps of pressure while flaccid and could feel it expanding from the first. I wanted to play it safe and only kept it on for 2 minutes. I had no problems with gator bite either :) . That might come with higher pressure, but then I'll try plastic bag mod (cut a piece of plastic bag and and cut an X in the middle for dick to go through).

I'm going to focus on girth exercises only now. 5.8" shaft and 6" glans or something like that and after that 7.2-7.5 inches length.

I knew it would be just perfect, glad it is working out!
 
I had my first intense workout with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] today. I wasnt even planning on it being that intense and it was only 8 minutes but when I exited the pump my dick width almost covered ballsack and was significantly bigger than after previous session. Lengthwise I'm only hitting 16cm but it's definitely targeting girth well. I was planning on doing another session after gym but I could feel the penis being sore from earlier so I decided not to rush it.

I've been mainly getting used to [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] during last week or so and haven't gained any length now. I think I've done too intense workouts with not enough volume. Now I'm planning on doing 2 days with moderate intensity followed by 1 day of higher intensity for stretches so that too high intensity doesn't get on the way of gains.

Measured BPFH (flacid hang) 5.9 inches and NBPFH 4.13, my goal is 7 NPBFH
 
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Simple routine with few exercises, similar to my approach, except I've only been doing girth exercises and getting great gains.

Your technique must be very good and precise. If you can, please briefly update this thread every day with your Routine Exercises and Log data.
 
Just subscribed to this thread. I have been dropping the length exercises and just doing the 5x5x3. I think I gained my 1/2 from doing the stretches manually (DLD's [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words]) and with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Length-Master[/words] when I got it. I probably should go back to the basics....
 
k18;616555 said:
Simple routine with few exercises, similar to my approach, except I've only been doing girth exercises and getting great gains.

Your technique must be very good and precise. If you can, please briefly update this thread every day with your Routine Exercises and Log data.

I'm too lazy to update every day but I'll try to update after measurements + when I'm changing routine.

Even though I had had kind of intense workouts with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] already (reaching 17.5cm based on the gauge ), today the expansion after [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] managed to freak me out again. Like a submarine. I hate that my foreskin get's so bloated it goes half way over glans and makes the glans lose elongation fast + weird shape. Foreskin gets so bloated for hours I probably couldn't have sex for a good 12 hours. edit: usable in 6 hours.

Today I started using [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]shower strap[/words] for comfort and watching adult entertainment on phone because it took too long to get a 100% boner 3 times without that to enter the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]. That really helped in getting a better workout. I did 5 min at 16cm, 1 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words], 5 min at 16.5 cm, 1 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words], 6 min at 17cm. I don't know why I didn't reach atleast 17.3cm because I've reached that on 2 days before this.
 
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Yesterday I finally reached 17.5cm in [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] so I guess I was wrong earlier when I said I had reached it before (must've been 16.5cm). I had to stop the last set at 3 minutes because testicles were getting pressed to the sides of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and discomfort was getting a bit worrying.

I've gone from 16.75 to 17.5 cm in 11 days in [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].

Today some problems with testicle on the right side feeling uncomfortable had to settle for 10 min at 16.5cm for 1 set.
 
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mavekovis;620649 said:
Yesterday I finally reached 17.5cm in [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] so I guess I was wrong earlier when I said I had reached it before (must've been 16.5cm). I had to stop the last set at 3 minutes because testicles were getting pressed to the sides of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and discomfort was getting a bit worrying.

I've gone from 16.75 to 17.5 cm in 11 days in [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].

Today some problems with testicle on the right side feeling uncomfortable had to settle for 10 min at 16.5cm for 1 set.

Nice jump in size especially after only 11 days! Congratulations! Something that can really help with the testicle discomfort is wrapping your balls back using a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words], making them clear the tube completely. This may help you break the 17.5 mark. Before wrapping back do some good, deep tissue massage on the scrotum and base of the penis to relax them as much as possible so you can wrap back enough to clear the tube.
 
Thanks for the idea ^^ I tried the wrap but couldn't seal the vacuum with it. Maybe if I hadn't folded it into thicker but smaller bandage it would've worked ill try it again sometime. Today had a good workout 8 min at 16.5, 6 min at 17, and 6 min at 17.5 maybe reaching 17.6cm for a moment.
 
Yesterday about 6 hours after my workout my left testicle started hurting for a few seconds per minute and it lasted about 20 minutes and got me really worried. I hope there's no permanent trauma it looks fine on the outside and hasn't hurt since. I think I'll have to keep a weeks break to make sure everything heals. I'll try a ghetto pumping sleeve from a cutting broad (it's thin, stretchable and has kind of sticky feel to it)... I wonder if it'll seal the pump if it's just flat square with small opening for the penis.
 
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mavekovis;621216 said:
Yesterday about 6 hours after my workout my left testicle started hurting for a few seconds per minute and it lasted about 20 minutes and got me really worried. I hope there's no permanent trauma it looks fine on the outside and hasn't hurt since. I think I'll have to keep a weeks break to make sure everything heals. I'll try a ghetto pumping sleeve from a cutting broad (it's thin, stretchable and has kind of sticky feel to it)... I wonder if it'll seal the pump if it's just flat square with small opening for the penis.

Have you been holding back an orgasm? Sometimes I get similar pain if I have not had an orgasm for a few days. Also, sometimes when doing intense girth work using [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] Size Blasters I will pull a bit too hard at the base causing aching in the testes, it last for a couple hours and fades after that. So maybe it is the pressure against the scrotum that is causing this.
 
doublelongdaddy;621261 said:
Have you been holding back an orgasm? Sometimes I get similar pain if I have not had an orgasm for a few days. Also, sometimes when doing intense girth work using [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] Size Blasters I will pull a bit too hard at the base causing aching in the testes, it last for a couple hours and fades after that. So maybe it is the pressure against the scrotum that is causing this.

It's not from holding back orgasm the pain was sharper than that. It felt like something wrecking its way through a vein or something on the bottom side of testicle. There was 5 minutes between the first 2 times it happened and then it started happening more than once per minute until it stopped.
 
mavekovis;621307 said:
It's not from holding back orgasm the pain was sharper than that. It felt like something wrecking its way through a vein or something on the bottom side of testicle. There was 5 minutes between the first 2 times it happened and then it started happening more than once per minute until it stopped.

Then this was most likely due to too much pressure on the Vas Deferens, the chord that connects the testis to the pubic bone.
 
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