kyomoto;706101 said:
No not at all , in fact it's the complete opposite. I find the cold water keeps me with a solid pump and feels great when I jelq and do squeezes.
Ice has shown to be better than heat for Stretching.A case for cold water pumping.
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No not at all , in fact it's the complete opposite. I find the cold water keeps me with a solid pump and feels great when I jelq and do squeezes.
I've done cold water pumping few times and I have found it's a good way to exercise! Of course we're all individuals, beardedbaldy did state this might not work for everyone.
Anyhow, for length especially I've noticed better results with cold water. Girth wise I am a bit pressed, I have it difficult with the girth, but it's certainly not a whole lot less compared to warm water pumping.
The initial hit of cold water is of course not so pleasant but the odd feeling passes quickly, at least for me. If one hasn't tried cold water pumping, I'd say to give it a go. Just like with any training, a plateau might come and different kind of exercises can break it, so maybe for many who might be struggling with gains, a run with cold water pumping is in order!
I personally tried a session alternating cold and warm water (as suggested / asked before) and in my opinion, it's best to keep the water temperature about the same. So, keep a warm water and cold water sessions separate.
Maybe a good idea would be to do cold water for gaining, personal time etc., but if you're expecting company; naturally do a warm water session! While your dong won't be an icepick after a cold water session, I'd still suggest a warm water session before sexy time, just a thought.
Anyhow, for length especially I've noticed better results with cold water. Girth wise I am a bit pressed, I have it difficult with the girth, but it's certainly not a whole lot less compared to warm water pumping.
The initial hit of cold water is of course not so pleasant but the odd feeling passes quickly, at least for me. If one hasn't tried cold water pumping, I'd say to give it a go. Just like with any training, a plateau might come and different kind of exercises can break it, so maybe for many who might be struggling with gains, a run with cold water pumping is in order!
I personally tried a session alternating cold and warm water (as suggested / asked before) and in my opinion, it's best to keep the water temperature about the same. So, keep a warm water and cold water sessions separate.
Maybe a good idea would be to do cold water for gaining, personal time etc., but if you're expecting company; naturally do a warm water session! While your dong won't be an icepick after a cold water session, I'd still suggest a warm water session before sexy time, just a thought.
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I cannot keep myself hard if pumping with cold water. tried it many times and never had any luck.
how do you guys do it?
how do you guys do it?
doublelongdaddy;707625 said:For me cold and penis do not go together
same here.
Just try finding the wiener after 12hour work day in -25Celsius on an airfield. haha
pillesnoppen;707628 said:
Holy shit! -25 Celsius, where do you live?
beardedbaldy;707644 said:
norway.
we had 3weeks in a row with -20to-30celsius every day.
coldest measurement is -54celsius about 40km away from my house.
pillesnoppen;707652 said:
That's some crazy stuff!! I don't think I could handle that at all.
beardedbaldy;707668 said:
dry air and -30 isn't that bad.
humid air and -10 and wind is muuuuuuuch worse.
pillesnoppen;707674 said:
Haha OMG I'm getting shivers just thinking about it ❄❄❄❄
beardedbaldy;707678 said:
hahaha. Viking here you know. light hair, blue eyes and red beard. and pretty big. hehe
tried that. don't helpkyomoto;707705 said:
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kyomoto;707501 said:
lol neither
To people who missed it, are those who are using cold water, warming there penis up before workouts with a heatpad or hot moist towel first?
kyomoto;707735 said:
tried that to
haha.
I usually have a sauna evening when I do my pumping, so first I warm up in the sauna, light stretching and so on. No heat pads or rice socks, I might shower with warm water a bit.
Of course entering the cylinder fully hard would be most beneficial, but I've noticed good growth even without a super hard on. I would say you get used to the cold water and keeping a some sort of an erection will become easier when you repeat the process over and over.
In my experience the fluid retention is less or none with cold water. I find it nowadays almost more relaxing than warm water, but of course I might switch from time to time.
Of course entering the cylinder fully hard would be most beneficial, but I've noticed good growth even without a super hard on. I would say you get used to the cold water and keeping a some sort of an erection will become easier when you repeat the process over and over.
In my experience the fluid retention is less or none with cold water. I find it nowadays almost more relaxing than warm water, but of course I might switch from time to time.
I started the first post and some of the original intent seems to be Enos and think some clarity is needed. I have a lot more science and links can't edit the first page for additional information.
first for best results it must be as Cold as possible for the "hunting effect" to work. I used ice in mine. But it was also never ment to fully take over and replace heat.bIt was supposed to be additional approach because heat effects tissue growth differently than cold, and heat works better stretching skin,collagen, soft tissue that also needs to grow for PE.
I'm also amazed how many people posting on how could cold works and not reading the science part. How the cold works I just stated this buts it's important to say again . ICE isn't necessarily better than heat but different. ICE has the advantage of using the "hunters reaction" of alternative vasocnstriction and vasodillation,this helps cause the relaxation of smooth muscle(that is how erections happen) and increase blood flow, for better expansion. This is biggest benefit when it's combine with pumping.This increases in blood flow also increases and raises the temperature internally. The "shrinking of the penis" When its cold helps traps the heat RAISES the internal temperature as saving mechanism . There is a lot more to it than this I won't go into without being able to accurately quote it.This cycling also pushes out lymph fluid and bruising in the skin . This explains why people state less fluid. Less fluid retention gives the illusion of less expansion, and appearing less effective.
Heat will stretch skin,collagen and tissue better. Than cold. Heat is still needed The original ice protocol and being adjusted to PE would be ICE,ICE, Heat for the final set. Though people seem to be doing fine and very happy with ice set being last..
first for best results it must be as Cold as possible for the "hunting effect" to work. I used ice in mine. But it was also never ment to fully take over and replace heat.bIt was supposed to be additional approach because heat effects tissue growth differently than cold, and heat works better stretching skin,collagen, soft tissue that also needs to grow for PE.
I'm also amazed how many people posting on how could cold works and not reading the science part. How the cold works I just stated this buts it's important to say again . ICE isn't necessarily better than heat but different. ICE has the advantage of using the "hunters reaction" of alternative vasocnstriction and vasodillation,this helps cause the relaxation of smooth muscle(that is how erections happen) and increase blood flow, for better expansion. This is biggest benefit when it's combine with pumping.This increases in blood flow also increases and raises the temperature internally. The "shrinking of the penis" When its cold helps traps the heat RAISES the internal temperature as saving mechanism . There is a lot more to it than this I won't go into without being able to accurately quote it.This cycling also pushes out lymph fluid and bruising in the skin . This explains why people state less fluid. Less fluid retention gives the illusion of less expansion, and appearing less effective.
Heat will stretch skin,collagen and tissue better. Than cold. Heat is still needed The original ice protocol and being adjusted to PE would be ICE,ICE, Heat for the final set. Though people seem to be doing fine and very happy with ice set being last..
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ma999;709288 said:
Having taken on the idea of using cold water with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] I have definitely seen benefits most noticeably a lack of fluid retention at my circumcision scar.
You mentioned heat should also be used and I may have inadvertently been doing this to some degree with jelqing between sets, granted this is only raising the temperature to a body heat range but a raise none the less. Would you say that counts in some way??
beardedbaldy;709303 said:
I'm honestly not able to say would be best. I think a full ice session like you and many people been using seems to be more beneficial than adding a heat session at the end like original concept was intending.
high heat has scientificly proven to stretch collagen, skin, and tissue ligaments and a long time staple in PE for a reason. Though one ice study was on ligament lengthening with ice but won't get into that discussion.But I don't think at body heat temperature level is enough raise in temperature to really push those to there peak and potential. Not saying you can't gain, just probably not most effective.I think this is why others don't feel ice works as good as heat as soft tissues growth might be the areas that slow there growth and heats long regards for breaking plateau for people and understand why they would be leary of the cold . I feel High heat is still valuable . I think for maximum benefits at least add a day of hot water pumping if you are finding cold working best . Or two a day heat first maybe and then ice later. I feel the best thing ice did was better healing and able to get less dick fatigue and always had zero fluid build up.
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First post and totally new to PE though have looked at a few forums etc in the past. I've just bought a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words] (considered [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words] of course but read a lot of negative feedback on it) and when it arrives I can't wait to get started. I've had a look at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] which is just way to much effort and time for me sadly, so anyone who can suggest an effective workout which is short and easy to start with, please comment!
I'm about to get back into shape for rugby, meaning lots of heavy lifting, releasing HGH and eating a lot of protein. I'm also going to be supplementing with L-Arginine and B vitamins too. So basically my body should be in surplus of growth nutrients whilst testosterone should be peaking. By using cold water to cause vasoconstriction then warm water to return blood flow, I'm encouraging new blood to flow to the penis. This forms the rationale for the program I have been thinking about starting - let me know what your thoughts are..
Upon waking - 10 mins Jelq & Stretching (4 directions, 30 seconds * 3)
Shower - warm water Jelqing * 50, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] in warm water * 10 mins, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] cold water *5 mins, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] Warm Water *5, Stretch, 50 Jelq.
Evening - Light stretching, possible 10 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sesh with warm water.
I'm about to get back into shape for rugby, meaning lots of heavy lifting, releasing HGH and eating a lot of protein. I'm also going to be supplementing with L-Arginine and B vitamins too. So basically my body should be in surplus of growth nutrients whilst testosterone should be peaking. By using cold water to cause vasoconstriction then warm water to return blood flow, I'm encouraging new blood to flow to the penis. This forms the rationale for the program I have been thinking about starting - let me know what your thoughts are..
Upon waking - 10 mins Jelq & Stretching (4 directions, 30 seconds * 3)
Shower - warm water Jelqing * 50, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] in warm water * 10 mins, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] cold water *5 mins, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] Warm Water *5, Stretch, 50 Jelq.
Evening - Light stretching, possible 10 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] sesh with warm water.
burn this thread, warm water is best end of story
Nothing better then an ice cold pump session after heavy training. Increases recovery, reduces swellign and edema and gives a monster hang.
Did anyone else notice that you dont sense the cold as much under a vacuum? Takes some overcoming to get into the icecold but once the vacuum is there it isnt as cold.
Did anyone else notice that you dont sense the cold as much under a vacuum? Takes some overcoming to get into the icecold but once the vacuum is there it isnt as cold.
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dickerschwanz;718259 said:
This is what I've heard as well about cold pumping. But I'm not sure as hot water promotes more bloodflow meaning better recovery. Many say that cold water just reduces the inflammation feeling and is more of a placebo affect and instead of helping recover it actually reduces recovery. This is what I learned from my athletic trainer. I'm trying to find studies based on this idea but all I get is shitty articles.
kyomoto;718272 said:
I have said many times before the benefits cold water pumping has brought me and seeing as I've pumped hot and cold in many many occasions I'd say it's definitely not a placebo.
Only way a person can verify if something works for them personally is to try it.
kyomoto;718272 said:
This makes no sense to me what your trainer says. Timing seems to be important if to use cold or hot and I think much of the differing opinions is due to this.
You cant say neither is bad.
Hot water not neccesarily promotes more blood flow. It increases expansion in all tissues imo which can be beneficial but can also lead to problems like skin bloating which can actually hinder internal expansion if done too long.
But I use warm often at and during any session.
With ice cold I get less overal messurable expansion but it feels more "real". I still only use at the end of my sessions. Alternating ice/hot would be interesting too but is a big hassle especially while maintatining erection.
The penis reacts to cold much more then any tissue lol we all know that. It feels very bad for the first moments. Its a bit like cold shower.
While pumping this retraction reaction is less existant if the vaccuum is stronger then that response(not much needed.. a good seal if you have already an erection entering)
What I know is that after a vey heavy training Im better recovered to have natural erections the next day then on others. Less soreness.
I would say that some think we have to carry on some damage/inflammation until the next pe training so in some cases ice cold pumping could shut down the inflammation too fast. When my training isnt that intense then I dont feel the need to do ice cold. But with very heavy training sessions it can feel like a good relief and I feel like Im more ready for another intense training the next day.
So as always with PE there isnt much adjsuting and observation necessary to know if it helps oneself or not.
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Oh don't worry about it swan he's talking about his pokemon trainer who usually beats him with the pokeballs. But you also need to be honest with yourself why would it feel more "real" if you know that heat aids in stretching the tissues? Because you're propumping bra! if you keep it up you'll end up like iceman38 or acro I'm just saying.
Icey bathmates cause less fluid because penile mesh is contracted and dosnt let extra fluids into skin layer. This lack of fluid leaves skin more vulnerable for discoloration as there's nothing to absorb some before it gets into skin and dissipate it for easier reabsorption into the body later.
Icey bathmates cause less fluid because penile mesh is contracted and dosnt let extra fluids into skin layer. This lack of fluid leaves skin more vulnerable for discoloration as there's nothing to absorb some before it gets into skin and dissipate it for easier reabsorption into the body later.
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templnite;718372 said:
you still give in to the thought of scorpions rope dildo in your system so you get in a state of shock and remember to tell kyo he's the best pokemon trainer ever. thanks.
dickerschwanz;718337 said:
Going to need to do some research
I'm just reading articles talking about both sides and they're never giving real sources to where the studies are at. I'll keep trying.I dont know much about pokemon.templnite;718372 said:
The tissue is stretched above normal level during ice pumping as during warm pumping. Feels like more inner tissue is expanding. Skin expansion I think is mostly faux expansion that doesnt give much to gains.
I get less discoloration with ice water pumping as it seems the skin layer is "closed". Discoloration comes when blood is drawn into the outer skin layers traping blood/iron there. Fluid might help clearing it out on the way back but not neccesarily so.
But of course overpumping with too much vacuum can always lead to discoloration.
Slowly releasing vacuum seems to help with less trapped blood.
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No dude you have it all Wong! Certain amount of heat increases tissue elasticity just not too hot because it causes it to contract like if you were cooking it. I like icy bathmates towards later sets because something about it makes the dick so stiff. Idk if its because it feels pleasant/different or has an activating effect on the cells but definition useful
Don't worry about the pokeman he is a wannabe vegan.
Don't worry about the pokeman he is a wannabe vegan.
templnite;718433 said:
I see you like to pick fights lol
I didnt say heat doesnt expand elasticity.
One of the traits of elasticity btw. is to easily be able to revert back to the initial size. Think about that.
What is the point of this thread, just to confuse newbies? If I told you pumping with chicken noodle soup works better than water would you believe me?
Instead of saying why cold water MIGHT have benefits, let's rely on most people's experience with warm water and how it will give more expansion and a better hang. I pumped with cold water for an entire month a while back, and there is NO benefit. Sorry if I'm being annoying but this thread irks me.
Instead of saying why cold water MIGHT have benefits, let's rely on most people's experience with warm water and how it will give more expansion and a better hang. I pumped with cold water for an entire month a while back, and there is NO benefit. Sorry if I'm being annoying but this thread irks me.
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acromegaly;718741 said:
Swallowing that chicken noodle soup after finishing my own session DELICIOUS!! haha:Olol
kyomoto;718774 said:
There is much truth here. Every man will be able to take a bit different intensity than the other. Some can train all day while others need days off. Some men will gain with very light work while others demand extreme work. Finding these personal innuendos is done through a solid progress thread and listening to the advice of the elders.
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Yeah do a search for any of this you’ll find plenty of threads where men have tried but not too many that stuck with it.