Ice has shown to be better than heat for Stretching.A case for cold water pumping.

[Max Whitewood]

What would this mean for those doing manual stretching and using extenders?

Dipping your cock into an ice water bucket with an extender on? lol

 

[acromegaly]

bro i will save you some time

stretching with heat makes you grow faster
(read this sentence lol)

seriously though there is a reason why every pe site, even �other forum�, uses warmth in stretching and bathmates. cold water could be a useful shock or cool down though like a couple guys suggested. The Soviets experimented a lot with cold and raising testosterone, but I think we are talking about stretching tissues not balancing hormone levels. I mean conversely we can say too much hot water is going to be a bad thing and kill T levels. Give it a try, but i mean there is a reason why nordic people and eskimos are growers instead of showers, its because cold restricts the penis.

 

[DLD]

What would this mean for those doing manual stretching and using extenders?

Dipping your cock into an ice water bucket with an extender on? lol

This is more directed at warming up and down or cooling up and down

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

most of the time cold water shrinks the unit ...and heat let it hang...

 

[ma999]

bro i will save you some time

stretching with heat makes you grow faster.

Here is an article and and medical study Stating and showing some evidence from the study that ice was better in increasing degrees of flexibility than heat. This is one of many studies having the same results of ice increasing flexibility.

Icing Isn't Just for Injuries: Cryotherapy Improves Flexibility | Breaking Muscle

Comparison of Stretching with Ice, Stretching with Heat, or Stretching Alone on Hamstring Flexibility

But the whole point and mentioned in my first post was NEVER an argument against heat but ,to used in conjunction with Ice for the most possible gains.

The article and study clearly state of how it works is due to increase vasodilation and it's effect on stretching. So to apply it to girth and use in ice or cold pumping this relies on understanding of the hunting reaction

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunting_reaction

I've already explained prior posting how the hunting reaction can allow the internal structures of the penis expand beyond its normal limits . I will not retype it all but in short This is due to incresased internal heat caued caused by the hunting reaction. This allows these structures to expand and stretch easier with the heat increasing elasticticty. The incresased blood flow and widening allows to create more pressure or the more stretchable structure. This how theory and function of cold pumping can take you further. It sounds contractdictory but the cold and shrinkage on the skin helps trap heat and allows the internal temperature to keep warm and to raise the temperature.

Vasodilation is GOD to the function of the penis without that you have no erection. Vasodilation is the process that allows smooth muscle to relax and have an erection. It's how Viagra works as a vasodilator.

So if people take Viagra for girth work for better Expansion. And how Viagra works is As vasodilator . Everything above states how cold incresases this. So why would we not want to more of it.


And yes your penis will shrink the skin due to cold due vasoconstriction on the superficial tissues and heat will let it hang easier. It's only when it's used in a proper context will cold be beneficial .

 

[DLD]

most of the time cold water shrinks the unit ...and heat let it hang...

I find the same thing!

 

[templnite]

Its ok bro I have faith in cold water pumping even if I haven't tried it.

Sometimes new techniques don't catch on like Dld's size blasters.

 

[huge-girth]

most of the time cold water shrinks the unit ...and heat let it hang...

I agree with you on this one bro

 

[DLD]

Its ok bro I have faith in cold water pumping even if I haven't tried it.

Sometimes new techniques don't catch on like Dld's size blasters.

Time will tell but your are right, sometimes, actually a lot of times, something does not become popular until it gets enough user attention. Even so, I have exercises I have created that no one has even responded to buried deep in the history of MOS.

 

[master_mind]

I will try with cold water.

 

[DLD]

I will try with cold water.

Please MM and anyone else trying cold water therapy bring your experiences back to the forum so we can gain a greater understanding of the effectiveness of this.

 

[roboscop]

Please MM and anyone else trying cold water therapy bring your experiences back to the forum so we can gain a greater understanding of the effectiveness of this.

DLD, I'm solely using ice cold water in my daily BM sessions. My progress, updates and findings are in my thread within the routines section. Any questions, please ask away. Within two weeks I aim to be doing 2 BM sessions per day, so I should be in the knowledge by the time I hit that frequency.

 

[DLD]

DLD, I'm solely using ice cold water in my daily BM sessions. My progress, updates and findings are in my thread within the routines section. Any questions, please ask away. Within two weeks I aim to be doing 2 BM sessions per day, so I should be in the knowledge by the time I hit that frequency.

I think the best information will come with the gains you make using this process. Can you link your progress thread for me?

 

[roboscop]

I think the best information will come with the gains you make using this process. Can you link your progress thread for me?

No problem - http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...1-my-journey-to-not-being-self-conscious.html

 

[templnite]

Look you guys I'm doing cold water bathmates, and bathing with as cold water as possible. So far its shown better eq, better flaccid, and better fluid prevention.


Make sure if you're gonna clamp after you pump to do a lukewarm bathmate before, this ensures you have a pain free clamp

 

[DLD]

Look you guys I'm doing cold water bathmates, and bathing with as cold water as possible. So far its shown better eq, better flaccid, and better fluid prevention.


Make sure if you're gonna clamp after you pump to do a lukewarm bathmate before, this ensures you have a pain free clamp

With cold water, coming out of the tube, do you find more or less retention than if you used hot water?

 

[templnite]

Yes definitely and the difference in temperature provides a new, exiting sensation. Im really digging the cold showers too they leave you more awake and your skin more smooth. I guess it has to do with the pores shutting off, and not letting any grease come out. I also guess there's a similar effect in the tunica where it closes the micro pores that lets fluid retention permeate the skin.

The only problem is after you come out the bathmate you feel more rigid. It takes a bit more careful manipulation to get your expansion. Which is why I said that if you must clamp/ssj, make sure to warm your cock a little in a rice sock or another bathmate this time with warm water. *ice-cold nigga sub-zero*

 

[BigBeardBig]

Cold bathmate sessions ? Sounds pretty good, definately will try once my frenulum is healed.

 

[DLD]

Yes definitely and the difference in temperature provides a new, exiting sensation. Im really digging the cold showers too they leave you more awake and your skin more smooth. I guess it has to do with the pores shutting off, and not letting any grease come out. I also guess there's a similar effect in the tunica where it closes the micro pores that lets fluid retention permeate the skin.

The only problem is after you come out the bathmate you feel more rigid. It takes a bit more careful manipulation to get your expansion. Which is why I said that if you must clamp/ssj, make sure to warm your cock a little in a rice sock or another bathmate this time with warm water. *ice-cold nigga sub-zero*

I suppose that stiffness can be dealt with using Bundled Stretches or even masturbation to return good malleability. I have to try this myself to get my head around it better. Thanks Temp!

 

[ma999]

I started this thread some time back and glad it had a positive response this time around. I wish I could find the time to condense my previous postings into one, change the language, more studies and proof I found , and make it easier to understand.
The science I posted backing it is legit. Because the hunting effect it actually allows more vasodillation(widening of the blood vessels and increases oxygen ) and increased relaxation of smooth muscle(the process that allows erections to happen). It really makes it optimal for pumping.But explaining how it works sounds contradictory , and sticking your cock in ice water is not appealing. I'm OK that it never took off or people think it's dumb My only wish is actually if someone could challenge it with science instead of "this is dumb heat has been proven to work " this again isn't argument against heat cause again the hunting responds raises the internal temperature through the vasodillation caused by the cold. Again it all sounds contradictory, but I linked the science and I'm getting long winded and rambling as usual.

Templenite the biggest thing I taken from it was I always had better EQ, and on less fluid retention, there is scientific reason in one of my postings why there would be less fluid . When I was done I always tried to fit in a small 3-5 warm water session at very low pressure, just trying to bring the temp back up. Unfortunately I had to stop with the cold water pumping after I had issues dealing with bathmate valves constantly failing, I had to ship it to England I think to get it looked at and then it got lost in the mail return.