jekyllnhyde360

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I'm getting so fed up with the fact that my flaccid hasn't changed, and the worst part is my number have gone up dramatically in both BPEL AND MSEG since i started, in fact i'm hitting 7.5 bpel and yet i still have a 3'' flaccid some times even worse!
i just don't get it.
pissed.
girth has gone from 4.5 to 5.5 and still tiny flaccid, this is bull!
And never mind the fact that practicly everything gives my shrinkage. to cold, to hot, exercises, anxiety, holding piss, dancing with chicks, EVERYTHING!!!
Does anyone else have this prob?>:(?:(
 
jekyllnhyde360;613854 said:
I'm getting so fed up with the fact that my flaccid hasn't changed, and the worst part is my number have gone up dramatically in both BPEL AND MSEG since i started, in fact i'm hitting 7.5 bpel and yet i still have a 3'' flaccid some times even worse!
i just don't get it.
pissed.
girth has gone from 4.5 to 5.5 and still tiny flaccid, this is bull!
And never mind the fact that practicly everything gives my shrinkage. to cold, to hot, exercises, anxiety, holding piss, dancing with chicks, EVERYTHING!!!
Does anyone else have this prob?>:(?:(

Have you tried to use [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Uncle Jims[/words] Wrap as a way to train your penis to remain longer in flaccid state? This is such an easy method and the intensity is low so you can wear for long periods. Eventually it will train your penis to remember to remain elongated.
 
Hey DLD, no i've never tried that because i always feared it would hnder my girth gains.
I'm working on girth and i think that wrapping after a girth session may defeat the purpose, what do you think DLD, do you think girth gains will be affected?
 
jekyllnhyde360;613883 said:
Hey DLD, no i've never tried that because i always feared it would hnder my girth gains.
I'm working on girth and i think that wrapping after a girth session may defeat the purpose, what do you think DLD, do you think girth gains will be affected?

no it wont affect girth at all, may even help it. if you do your length and girth at different times of the day, then i would suggest wearing a cock ring after your girth work, and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ujw[/words] after your length work. this will ensure you are remaining larger at some form at all times of the day. im almost the same size as you, yet my flaccid is usually around the 5 inch mark. i attribute this to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ujw[/words], and temp expansion from my girth work. my flaccid size has gone up more than my erect measurements
 
I wouldn't try to compress any tissues after such routine. You can look into a silicone sleeve which can also expand a bit rather than compress.
 
I deal whit almost exactly the same fucking crap when i get nervous or anxious, sometimes when a hottie is near, fucking sucks when i take a leak my penis looks small, short.really sucks
 
The wrap method definitely works great but wearing an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for several hours THEN wrapping all day would be even better. Also, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] helps make the penis thick and gives it some weight. Another thing I do is just pull on my dick a little anytime I take it out. Going to the bathroom, getting in the shower, taking my clothes off... whatever. It kind of temporarily elongates it in case anyone is looking or just for your own sake.
 
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Wrapping never increased my actual flaccid but it makes it look like you have a big one lol. I stay shrunken all day too, unless for some reason I get a sudden blood rush to my dick.
 
shortdick;613946 said:
I deal whit almost exactly the same fucking crap when i get nervous or anxious, sometimes when a hottie is near, fucking sucks when i take a leak my penis looks small, short.really sucks

this is likely due to a response from the sympathetic nervous system. during this process, blood flow is directed to places more important than the extremities. this is probably why when you get nervous or anxious your flaccid gets smaller, as blood flow is lower.
 
dmoney101;614025 said:
Wrapping never increased my actual flaccid but it makes it look like you have a big one lol. I stay shrunken all day too, unless for some reason I get a sudden blood rush to my dick.

Sometimes I think that's it's main purpose. An awe effect under your pants w/ the dick print. The wraps and even sleeves, don't cause much stretch to the penis. In order to get that stretch you're probably going to have to get pretty constrictive w/ the wrap. Which could have a negative impact overall on PE. If people are going to do that, they might as well just get an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. At least then you know you're doing something beneficial. I think the verdict is still out of wraps/sleeve, some might swear by it though. @ the end of the day, turtling doesn't seem like a good idea (as long as you're wrapping past your FL).
 
Thank god mine doesn't turtle unless it's cold...which is why I hate the winter.
Nonetheless I'd like to have a bigger flaccid. mine usually ranges between 4,5 and 5,1 in length and around 5 in girth. With girth there's noticeably less fluctuation in size. Did someone else notice that, too?
 
Girth for me is usually the same all around. The only difference I notice is after edging and after girth routines when I did them. It also looks fatter after I take off my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], due to basic compression from elongation.
 
Satyr;614069 said:
Thank god mine doesn't turtle unless it's cold...which is why I hate the winter.
Nonetheless I'd like to have a bigger flaccid. mine usually ranges between 4,5 and 5,1 in length and around 5 in girth. With girth there's noticeably less fluctuation in size. Did someone else notice that, too?

my girth foes from 4-4.5 inch, to 5.3 mseg. my length goes from around 5 flaccid, to 7.1 nbp, so yeah i would say theres less fluctuation for girth
 
I didn't mean the difference between flaccid and erect but those between "shrunk" flaccid size and "chub" flaccid size, so to say. But your observation also holds true in my case.
 
jekyllnhyde360;613854 said:
I'm getting so fed up with the fact that my flaccid hasn't changed, and the worst part is my number have gone up dramatically in both BPEL AND MSEG since i started, in fact i'm hitting 7.5 bpel and yet i still have a 3'' flaccid some times even worse!
i just don't get it.
pissed.
girth has gone from 4.5 to 5.5 and still tiny flaccid, this is bull!
And never mind the fact that practicly everything gives my shrinkage. to cold, to hot, exercises, anxiety, holding piss, dancing with chicks, EVERYTHING!!!
Does anyone else have this prob?>:(?:(
I'd rather have faster erect gains than flaccid. Anxiety and cold weather effect my flaccid the most.
 
Satyr;614087 said:
I didn't mean the difference between flaccid and erect but those between "shrunk" flaccid size and "chub" flaccid size, so to say. But your observation also holds true in my case.

oh woops, my bad! only time my flaccid is noticeably different is if its very cold, or it is after a girth workout
 
Yeah i had tought about that the blood goes somewhere else and the dick gets smaller when i noticed that was when im doing something physically the penis gets shrunk because the arms, legs and back need more blood.
 
shortdick;614110 said:
Yeah i had tought about that the blood goes somewhere else and the dick gets smaller when i noticed that was when im doing something physically the penis gets shrunk because the arms, legs and back need more blood.

yeah, and depending on your mental state aswell
 
jekyllnhyde360;613883 said:
Hey DLD, no i've never tried that because i always feared it would hnder my girth gains.
I'm working on girth and i think that wrapping after a girth session may defeat the purpose, what do you think DLD, do you think girth gains will be affected?

Girth gains will not be effected by this wrap, after each session you may appear thinner but this is very temporary until the blood returns to 100%. I have used this method for years to keep my penis trained to remain elongated. It is a very good solution to flaccid issues, simple, but effective. The penis has a tendency to want to shrink up when flaccid, it is a normal part of the physical body and it takes teaching the penis, through steady elongation, to learn to remain elongated. Over time, eventually, you will not need to wrap any longer once the penis retains the memory.
 
doublelongdaddy;614168 said:
Girth gains will not be effected by this wrap, after each session you may appear thinner but this is very temporary until the blood returns to 100%. I have used this method for years to keep my penis trained to remain elongated. It is a very good solution to flaccid issues, simple, but effective. The penis has a tendency to want to shrink up when flaccid, it is a normal part of the physical body and it takes teaching the penis, through steady elongation, to learn to remain elongated. Over time, eventually, you will not need to wrap any longer once the penis retains the memory.

amen, my flaccid is bigger now even when im not wearing a wrap, down to wearing an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ujw[/words] after lengthwork
 
First off i just want to thank everyone for the great responses!:)
I really appreciate it!
So from what i'm reading is that, for some the wrap does lead to permanent flaccid effects, but for others it does do a thing?
Am i right?
 
jekyllnhyde360;614303 said:
First off i just want to thank everyone for the great responses!:)
I really appreciate it!
So from what i'm reading is that, for some the wrap does lead to permanent flaccid effects, but for others it does do a thing?
Am i right?

I never got an increase in flaccid hang, but that was a while back and it was only used for around 2-3 months in total. I think if I was to see any benefit, it would had happened by then. I didn't have mine that tight though as I thought that would have a negative impact on girth. I think that really only applies after a girth routine. I would not advise that @ all. More benefits IMO would come w/ a slight cockring. Something you could wear for a longer duration w/o negative impacts.

I now use no wrap @ all. I keep it stretched w/ the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. If you can use the wrap to get that same or a similar type of stretch (which would negate having to purchase a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] in the first place), then you will see an increase overtime. Not saying you can't w/o that type of stretch. I think any stretch even in the slightest is a good thing.

There are people that get benefits in their flaccid hangs as a result of the wrap. There are sooooo many techniques to wrap though and even more variables to factor in such as constriction. Not too mention most are also doing other exercises and they just might correlate a wrap to a flaccid increase. It really could be any number of exercises causing that.
 
using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and wrapping with sports pre wrap helped improve my flaccid hang. now i use a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and it is even better!!!

the sports pre wrap i like more then an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] b/c i could wrap very tightly and blood flow was not effected
 
jekyllnhyde360;614303 said:
First off i just want to thank everyone for the great responses!:)
I really appreciate it!
So from what i'm reading is that, for some the wrap does lead to permanent flaccid effects, but for others it does do a thing?
Am i right?

I think the most important thing is to keep your dick in an extended state for As much as you possibly can. This is penis training just like women do waist training. Keep it extended all day everyday and it will eventually just stay like that on it's own
 
Dld says drinking plenty of water keeps you nice and chub. I dont see y [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ujw[/words] would hurt either
 
tkto;614331 said:
Dld says drinking plenty of water keeps you nice and chub. I dont see y [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ujw[/words] would hurt either

at the most it should be uncomfortable, but never painful
 
I use my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] to keep myself stretched all day long. I put it on immediately after my stretch routine in the morning and am able to wear it all day- 12hrs+. I am working on length right now so I haven't tried it after a girth routine yet but I see the possibilities of being able to use it right after a girth routine and also be able to wear a cock ring right along with it being able to stay stretched and pumped at the same time. The reason I think this is I have had massive hard ons while wearing it and the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] just adjusted to it and never slipped or anything so I think you would be able to hold your expansion after a workout and be extended as well. Wow, after talking about it I can't wait to try it myself.
 
IVEADREAM;614403 said:
I use my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] to keep myself stretched all day long. I put it on immediately after my stretch routine in the morning and am able to wear it all day- 12hrs+. I am working on length right now so I haven't tried it after a girth routine yet but I see the possibilities of being able to use it right after a girth routine and also be able to wear a cock ring right along with it being able to stay stretched and pumped at the same time. The reason I think this is I have had massive hard ons while wearing it and the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] just adjusted to it and never slipped or anything so I think you would be able to hold your expansion after a workout and be extended as well. Wow, after talking about it I can't wait to try it myself.

Good you posted this, I don't think everyone knows that the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] can be used as a stand alone stretcher, which is great for healing. It is usually only mentioned as an attachment for the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] but it can also be used as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] alone.
 
youknowme123321;614315 said:
using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and wrapping with sports pre wrap helped improve my flaccid hang. now i use a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and it is even better!!!

the sports pre wrap i like more then an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] b/c i could wrap very tightly and blood flow was not effected
It also gives a much more honest and subtle bulge, as opposed to the huge lump from an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words]. And it's nice and soft on the skin... ahh. Love the sports prewrap.
 
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feel with you brotha, got the same problem im 7X5.5 (bpel and meg) but my flaccid after hitting the gym is fucking terrible... If a girl would see me then would she expect my cock erect to be like 5.5 bpel

Im a grower but would love to get a meat cock... DLD do you have any deep penis theory to why some men have meat cocks and others have blood cocks? More smooth muscel tissue? Better blood holding in the cock, a shower dosent realse the same amount of blood after an erection like a grower?
 
aintgottime;614660 said:
feel with you brotha, got the same problem im 7X5.5 (bpel and meg) but my flaccid after hitting the gym is fucking terrible... If a girl would see me then would she expect my cock erect to be like 5.5 bpel

Im a grower but would love to get a meat cock... DLD do you have any deep penis theory to why some men have meat cocks and others have blood cocks? More smooth muscel tissue? Better blood holding in the cock, a shower dosent realse the same amount of blood after an erection like a grower?

for the first part, blood going elsewhere is likely your issue after the gym. wrapping would likely solve this
 
i think it's just body temperature and nutrition.

for instance when my body temperature is lower than normal from inadequate nutrition, my extremities get colder, hands, feet, and my flaccid is smaller.

this happens usually when I fast(once a week), or when I'm really focused on studies and forget to drink or eat. as soon as i pack a bit of weight back my extremities become full again.
 
k18;614730 said:
i think it's just body temperature and nutrition.

for instance when my body temperature is lower than normal from inadequate nutrition, my extremities get colder, hands, feet, and my flaccid is smaller.

this happens usually when I fast(once a week), or when I'm really focused on studies and forget to drink or eat. as soon as i pack a bit of weight back my extremities become full again.

yeah ive noticed the same thing with extremities getting colder
 
k18;614730 said:
i think it's just body temperature and nutrition.

for instance when my body temperature is lower than normal from inadequate nutrition, my extremities get colder, hands, feet, and my flaccid is smaller.

this happens usually when I fast(once a week), or when I'm really focused on studies and forget to drink or eat. as soon as i pack a bit of weight back my extremities become full again.

just from one day of fasting those things happen to you?
 
youknowme123321;614764 said:
just from one day of fasting those things happen to you?

i fast one day every week, and my metablism is very quick, i also in general need to increase my iron and zinc b/c i mainly just eat vegs, fruits, and starches
 
k18;614769 said:
i fast one day every week, and my metablism is very quick, i also in general need to increase my iron and zinc b/c i mainly just eat vegs, fruits, and starches

Have you had a ferritin test done?
 
smerc;614770 said:
Have you had a ferritin test done?

No i don't go to docs, i'm not into blood tests, don't like strangers touching me especially blood extraction. but i know i have low ferritin and iron levels b/c i only eat meat/fish once a week usually. i also don't follow the FDA's RDV of vitamins and minerals. i follow diet mostly based on intuition, research, and more of an Okinawa japanese diet at the moment, but things change
 
I don't like docs either. Had too many bad experiences.

I think blood work is a bit different though. I think someone who does research on diet/body, should find value in self-diagnosis/monitoring. Which is blood work.
 
I'm sure you could research some lab locally that would take it as long as it has proper containment. I wonder what they do for people that are bed ridden and can't make it anywhere, nor have the funds for people to come out and draw blood.

Check out: Theranos Lab Testing | Pharmacy | Walgreens if you're within their operation areas.
 
jekyllnhyde360;613854 said:
I'm getting so fed up with the fact that my flaccid hasn't changed, and the worst part is my number have gone up dramatically in both BPEL AND MSEG since i started, in fact i'm hitting 7.5 bpel and yet i still have a 3'' flaccid some times even worse!
i just don't get it.
pissed.
girth has gone from 4.5 to 5.5 and still tiny flaccid, this is bull!
And never mind the fact that practicly everything gives my shrinkage. to cold, to hot, exercises, anxiety, holding piss, dancing with chicks, EVERYTHING!!!
Does anyone else have this prob?>:(?:(
I never really understood why anyone cared about what their flaccid was, it fluctuates anyway. I guess if your a gay dude trying to show of to other dudes in group showers is the only reason I could see it mattering. But if someone told you I'll give you a erect 10x7 or whatever your dream size is but your flaccid will be 1x3 would you be happy? I would be happy with the huge fuck stick and not care about my homo erotic prison flaccid dreams lol
 
Jdcsd;614927 said:
I never really understood why anyone cared about what their flaccid was, it fluctuates anyway. I guess if your a gay dude trying to show of to other dudes in group showers is the only reason I could see it mattering. But if someone told you I'll give you a erect 10x7 or whatever your dream size is but your flaccid will be 1x3 would you be happy? I would be happy with the huge fuck stick and not care about my homo erotic prison flaccid dreams lol

Girls check the bulge just as much as a gay dude would
 
No doubt that erect size is absolute priority to me and I don't deliberately go for flaccid size increase. But checking out bulges surely isn't only a homosexual preference.
 
dmoney101;614959 said:
Girls check the bulge just as much as a gay dude would

I'm not talking about bulge taking about flaccid size not mattering. Of you wants one crazy bulge you can always stuff a sock down your pants. You'd have to either have an enormous weiner or some right right pants on for that to matter much anyway
 
Much matter. but since PE I notice people cheking me out more, I hate it cuz I think they're gay.
The girls I dont mind alot cuz its natural for them to look just like we chek out boobs. Its never a lustful look with them only once did I get that and she didn't even look down there. Her eyes still said she wanted to hack my care package, and I felt sort of bad.
For real guys sometimes chiks want me to fuk em even though they already have novios. Some of you could say "that's awesome",but I dont understand how you can lie to your partner. It honestly makes me sad
 
tkto;615112 said:
Much matter. but since PE I notice people cheking me out more, I hate it cuz I think they're gay.
The girls I dont mind alot cuz its natural for them to look just like we chek out boobs. Its never a lustful look with them only once did I get that and she didn't even look down there. Her eyes still said she wanted to hack my care package, and I felt sort of bad.
For real guys sometimes chiks want me to fuk em even though they already have novios. Some of you could say "that's awesome",but I dont understand how you can lie to your partner. It honestly makes me sad

Women are always looking to upgrade.
 
My flaccid is so fucking tiny. It stopped bothering me because my erect is fatter and a little bigger now. I now see my flaccid state as compact and "out of the way"
 
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