REDZULU2003
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lol I'm out of work at the moment and TOO interested in all this hehehe all for a good cause.
Any black guys who hate the big dick sterotype much as me?
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Reborn;344577 said:
You're exactly right- which is why I'm asking for more data
Reborn;344577 said:kinsey study is flawed/useless as far i can work out due to self reporting and the tiny sample of blacks used; so the 6.3 vs. 6.2 doesn't mean anything.
some of the other studies seem to indicate whites may have bigger dicks on average.
the smallness of asians seems slightly more consistent but again hardly you something you'd hang your hat on.
i'm beginning to think it may only be a myth after all
True- especially when you consider that "Asians" and even "Blacks" are general classifications for a wide variety of subgroups -e.g.- is a Pygmy (on average) going to have the same penile dimensions as a Masai?
Reborn;344580 said:
I've studied this kind of stuff before, and there seems to be a lot of conflicting and hand picked data- especially with the older studies. It wasn't too long ago when many scientists believed White people to be the apex of the human species- and they had all sorts of data and charts to "prove" it. Much of those studies have been debunked.
Many scientist today agree that there's such a wide variety of ranges within races and that there's so much mixing going on that it's hard for any one group to lay claim to "superiority" in any one particular category.
i think you are making a valid point in that black people are diverse but at some point, you have to try to make at least some generalisations to try at least try to answer the question.
for example...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people#In_sub-Saharan_Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmies
pygmy population is estimated to be 250,000 and 600,000 in the congo rainforest.
it seems like there are more than this but this seems to be the largest contingent.
there are 922,011,000 africans, of which most are black (yes there are sub populations of asians, indians in africa)
there are approximately 150mn black people in the americas, mostly us, caribbean, brazil.
so i'd argue we don't need to worry too much about pygmies specifically.
i take your point about there may be differences between dick size in black americans, versus kenyans vs. nigerians, vs. arabs but lets see if we can see any differences in the broader categories?
for example...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people#In_sub-Saharan_Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmies
pygmy population is estimated to be 250,000 and 600,000 in the congo rainforest.
it seems like there are more than this but this seems to be the largest contingent.
there are 922,011,000 africans, of which most are black (yes there are sub populations of asians, indians in africa)
there are approximately 150mn black people in the americas, mostly us, caribbean, brazil.
so i'd argue we don't need to worry too much about pygmies specifically.
i take your point about there may be differences between dick size in black americans, versus kenyans vs. nigerians, vs. arabs but lets see if we can see any differences in the broader categories?
Big Al;344584 said:
i would have to agree with this assessment.
my initial view after looking at the evidence is that there probably is a small difference (and i mean small) between races but the evidence is
difficult (due to biases discussed above and others) and as you say the range within races is much bigger than the difference between the averages.
difficult ever to resolve this one way or the other i'd say.
Reborn;344588 said:
With the wide variety of genetic expression, you'll likely see as much size variety within some groups- especially those more mixed (like African Americans) than between groups. That's what makes genetic traits like uniformly skewed penis size so difficult to pin down to one particular group. Now, most geneticists believe that modern humans share a closer common ancestor than was previously thought which is why some even consider the concept of "race" to be outdated.
true...but some generalisations make sense...
you can see it in at least some 'hard' facts ...pardon the pun.
condom size averages 5.4 in africa, vs 5.3 europe and 4.9 in asia.
difference is large enough in asian case to make me believe it makes sense to generalise at least for asians, that there is a size difference.
you can see it in at least some 'hard' facts ...pardon the pun.
condom size averages 5.4 in africa, vs 5.3 europe and 4.9 in asia.
difference is large enough in asian case to make me believe it makes sense to generalise at least for asians, that there is a size difference.
REDZULU2003
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Not significant enough
If you guys are still going back and forth about what race is bigger. I will last week me and my buddies were at a party and a friend of mine was playing beer pong(I dont drink) and I dont know what cause this to happen but it happened. He is white/irish, he pulled out his cock and put it on the table and I swear to you he is the same size as whitezilla. His ex-girlfriend said she couldnt stay with him because he was to big and I thought she was just looking for a reason to dump him but Im a believer. He has once said that him and his dad and brother are both around the same size. Im black and Im no where near that and a know alot of black guys that are not close to his size.
REDZULU2003;344571 said:
I checked it out, its no biggie to me...
It does go against popular culture to see those black guys with their average cocks. I guess we are all used to seeing black guys with huge cocks. I think that is because the people who own most black adult entertainment sites know that a big black cock will sell better.
I for the record, dont beleive the myth. Sure, alot of black guys have big cocks, but so do other races.. Growing up, I played sports, been in the military, seen many naked guys... I was shocked to see that my cock, flacid was bigger than most of the black guys, even the tall 6'7" guys... and there were small and skinny white boys with big flacid hangs too..
Girth Hammer;344842 said:
To say the very least, I respect you for admitting that the myth isn't true..
But I also think that the Irish dude is probably big because it just so happened that he and his family are big, not his whole race...
I once seen a pic of a Japanese guy, I swear his dick was at least 8" long and it looked flacid because it was pointing straight down, but I wouldnt be surprised if he did Penis Enlargement
there is a asian guy on this site who is 8 inches. and im not shocked,you cant believe whatever you hear there is no way to prove what race is bigger and no one will ever be able to prove it. Lets all just be happy we all know a way to get bigger from this site.
REDZULU2003
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Glad to read the latest on here. The Irish story is sweet 
interesting that it runs in the family and not is random.
the whole evolutionary argument for why some and not all penii are big is interesting.
apparently a big wang is more effective at getting the women pregnant and hence passing on genes.
the women therefore is interested in 2 things...1) solid partner to take care of genes... 2) around ovulation she's most likely to cheat with a big wang...apparently.
given that the huge wang is more effective in passing genes on, why does this not become the dominant feature? ie why doesn't this gene for the bigger wang become more and more common?
the whole thing is fascinating. at the moment i can't answer these questions but i am sure someone here will.
the whole evolutionary argument for why some and not all penii are big is interesting.
apparently a big wang is more effective at getting the women pregnant and hence passing on genes.
the women therefore is interested in 2 things...1) solid partner to take care of genes... 2) around ovulation she's most likely to cheat with a big wang...apparently.
given that the huge wang is more effective in passing genes on, why does this not become the dominant feature? ie why doesn't this gene for the bigger wang become more and more common?
the whole thing is fascinating. at the moment i can't answer these questions but i am sure someone here will.
Today in the gym I saw a large black guy with a flaccid that wasn't really that big. And I am a small, small, white guy with a ~5.3' flaccid. Race doesn't matter at all.
Women tend to think that tall guys have big dicks which obviously isn't true at all. Same goes for men with darker skin. I for myself am small, white, and young-looking. Noone in the whole world would guess my penissize right.
It's time that people realize that you cannot guess a man's size before seeing it yourself.
Well thats just what I wanted to say rofl
Women tend to think that tall guys have big dicks which obviously isn't true at all. Same goes for men with darker skin. I for myself am small, white, and young-looking. Noone in the whole world would guess my penissize right.
It's time that people realize that you cannot guess a man's size before seeing it yourself.
Well thats just what I wanted to say rofl
REDZULU2003
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I never judge a book by its covers and more so when you have seen as many dicks in the flesh as I have in my last job which was in the health field which involved seeing many males naked and sure I have seen small, medium and large ... the biggest wasnt black.
Lastly I dont think most women see tall men packing big and is just another load of crap and tall men that do seem to have big dicks is like when a small man has one but than I suppose if you want your theory to fit, it WILL fit anyhow. The old story about big hands, feet and nose is all bullshit aswell.
Lastly I dont think most women see tall men packing big and is just another load of crap and tall men that do seem to have big dicks is like when a small man has one but than I suppose if you want your theory to fit, it WILL fit anyhow. The old story about big hands, feet and nose is all bullshit aswell.
Reborn;345036 said:
There's an interesting discussion on evolution and the penis linked here: http://mattersofsize.com/forum/showpost.php?p=332480&postcount=4
REDZULU2003;345052 said:
the italian study referenced in paragoomby's post in thunders argues that
"penile dimensions are highly correlated with height and weight". this would argue against your statement redzulu.
OBJECTIVE: The knowledge of normal variations in the size of male external genitalia is of considerable interest to several disciplines. We carried out an extensive study in young Italian males to provide estimates of normal variations of penile dimensions. METHODS: The penile length in flaccid and stretched states and the penile circumference were measured in a random group of 3,300 young men aged 17-19 years and free from endocrine disorders and from congenital or acquired abnormalities of the penis. In a random sample of 325 subjects of the same set of people, penile length and circumference were also correlated with weight and height. Statistical analysis was performed with the Sperman test, because our data were not normally distributed as tested by the Kolmogorov-Smirnov test (p < 0.01). RESULTS: The median values of penile dimensions recorded in the present study are flaccid length 9.0 cm, flaccid circumference, at the middle of the shaft, 10.0 cm, and stretched length 12.5 cm. We also observed that the penile dimensions are highly correlated with height and weight. CONCLUSIONS: Since penile length and circumference correlate with anthropometric parameters such as weight and height, we suggest to consider themselves as two bodily measures which display a wide extent of normal variability along the general population
this from a greek study :
"the index finger length, which correlated significantly with the dimensions of the flaccid, maximally stretched, penis."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/puBathmateed/12350491?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.Penis Enlargementntrez.PuBathmateed.PuBathmateed_ResultsPanel.PuBathmateed_DiscoveryPanel.PuBathmateed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=2&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=puBathmateed
"the index finger length, which correlated significantly with the dimensions of the flaccid, maximally stretched, penis."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/puBathmateed/12350491?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.Penis Enlargementntrez.PuBathmateed.PuBathmateed_ResultsPanel.PuBathmateed_DiscoveryPanel.PuBathmateed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=2&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=puBathmateed
REDZULU2003
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Interesting one about the Italian & Greek studies although they arent massive samples used and cant be taken as the be all and end all with this. 325 subjects used in the Italian experiment, which isnt that big on a test that would need many thousands for it to really show a good pattern for the rest of us.
Also how were the studies conducted? its alright finding studies but its very important how they have been setup and carried out. Did the men measure themselves? or did the team do it for them? how were they measured? and where? how did they take the weight? scales? or fat calipers? for example ... I could go on.
The Greek study is a case of If you want a theory to fit, it WILL fit and the researchers were looking for this trend more than actually finding it, if you understand me here.
Also how were the studies conducted? its alright finding studies but its very important how they have been setup and carried out. Did the men measure themselves? or did the team do it for them? how were they measured? and where? how did they take the weight? scales? or fat calipers? for example ... I could go on.
The Greek study is a case of If you want a theory to fit, it WILL fit and the researchers were looking for this trend more than actually finding it, if you understand me here.
REDZULU2003
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Also I have seen quite a few guys well over 6ft tall and they had nothing special between the legs at all, albeit I only seen it flaccid they had average to below average size from what I saw with the odd one with something over average, nothing unusual from anything I had seen before.
Oneguy in particular who stood at just shy 7ft had a tiny flaccid penis.
I'll be honest though here, these were all patients so it could be biological inbalances for why they have dicks like that and not whoppers like the theory goes, but also from my female freinds and sisters who have dated tall guys, they all say the same ... that they arent larger than anyone else.
If height is special than surely guys small in height have small dicks? this isnt the case as they also come in various sizes incl huge sizes but I can see how this theory gathered support. Surely if someone was 10ft tall he wouldnt have a penis like the 'normal' males around would he? probably not, but than again 6-10ft is a massive leap, assuming 6ft is average height for human males ... so if thats the case or even 5.10ft and a male is 6.5 or 6.10 it isnt enough IMO for nature to warrant a large leap in penis size ... it doesnt make sense as its not a huge difference in the grand scheme of things, but when you go into 7 1/2 ft to more than I think 'something' could occur .... maybe than nature altered something.
Oneguy in particular who stood at just shy 7ft had a tiny flaccid penis.
I'll be honest though here, these were all patients so it could be biological inbalances for why they have dicks like that and not whoppers like the theory goes, but also from my female freinds and sisters who have dated tall guys, they all say the same ... that they arent larger than anyone else.
If height is special than surely guys small in height have small dicks? this isnt the case as they also come in various sizes incl huge sizes but I can see how this theory gathered support. Surely if someone was 10ft tall he wouldnt have a penis like the 'normal' males around would he? probably not, but than again 6-10ft is a massive leap, assuming 6ft is average height for human males ... so if thats the case or even 5.10ft and a male is 6.5 or 6.10 it isnt enough IMO for nature to warrant a large leap in penis size ... it doesnt make sense as its not a huge difference in the grand scheme of things, but when you go into 7 1/2 ft to more than I think 'something' could occur .... maybe than nature altered something.
Girth Hammer;342287 said:
Being a Nigerian and living in my home country, I feel the pain too especially on Instagram. But the funny part is that by this same time next year, I would have become a monster in length.
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I just read this entire thread and found some very interesting information as well as a few hypotheses that merit further exploration. Suffice it to say that there's no definitive body of research to explain (or predict) the various sizes, but one study that mentioned Africans over-all being very similar to other races except for the fact that there are many more 'outliers' which got me thinking...
could there be a correlation to those few 'massive' blacks and sickle-cell anemia? That trait is only found in Africans and it can often lead to 'mega-phallus'...perhaps some only have a 'minor' case which causes this effect?
Maybe Big Al can chime-in on this idea
could there be a correlation to those few 'massive' blacks and sickle-cell anemia? That trait is only found in Africans and it can often lead to 'mega-phallus'...perhaps some only have a 'minor' case which causes this effect?
Maybe Big Al can chime-in on this idea
Big Schwanz Acht;761341 said:
You said it all.
Big Schwanz Acht;761341 said:
I also believe American Indians also have issues with sickle cell. I agree that it can be a benefit to those who are minimally effected as impotence comes when the penis remains erect for too long. So shorter erection sessions lets say of about 5-8 hours would be beneficial as long as Kegels are done. The danger is when the afflicted have erections lasting hours, some times days.
You are quite right. Although I am Turkish, I have a good penis size. The fact that the lands of Turkey are very mixed racially and their mixing with the Anatolian peoples has a great effect on this. Even though Turks are Asian, the Europeans outweigh the Turks in Turkey. I personally have never been obsessed with the penis. until I watched mandingo adult entertainment. When I saw black men, my childhood complex started personally. I've seen many black men far, far superior to whites and Asians, not just the mandingo. I mean, dude, it's the adult entertainment industry that's actually protecting it a bit. If a new teenager watches an Asian mandingo, he gets depressed. It's impossible to have a penis size like that down there. neither japan nor genie can deal with those huge blacks. In the adult entertainment industry, white men with giant penises are also very selective. like the jewel found on the beach. Although the climate makes sense, I read that Vikings living in cold climates are good at this. Also, hot countries like qatar arabia don't have such huge penises. By percentage, blacks are unquestionably superior penis size. There was a program filmed in the orphanage on youtube in black and white. in the 1940s. even a black baby's penis was too big there compared to his peers. mandingo is really enough to disrupt the psychology of adolescents. I've heard of depressed men around me who couldn't get married because they had small penises. Since Turkey is an Islamic country, these issues are not very controversial. It's a shame to talk. Unfortunately, he can't even admit this to his family, not to go to the doctor. In my opinion, giant penis adult entertainment negatively affects young people, unfortunately