100% erect jelqing?

[jekyllnhyde360]

hey guys i have a question about 100% erect jelqing , why is it so wrong on every site i go on they keep sayn what ever you do make sure your not fully erect or you wont gain and you run the risk of hurting your self.
now, i do 100% erect jelqing everytime becaus when i tried to do it 50-75 with 1 minute im completly limp .
i havent gained any but that only becaus ive only been pe'ing for 3 weeks obviously , but if i keep doing them like this does it mean that i will never gain??? or that i will injure my dick? <

 

[MAXAMEYES]

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[jekyllnhyde360]

thank you, but id still like someone who has experience with 100&#37; erect jelqing tell me what its all about.

 

[abudabi2]

ive had no gains with 80-100&#37; jelqs over some months...
then i tried only 30% erection jelqs and finaly i got some girth gains.

cheers

 

[kingsnake]

In my humble opinion the tunica is extremely hard to stretch and induce plastic deformation without trauma when 100&#37; erect. When 100% erect the tunica has is hard and rigid and has a tensile strength similiar to a car tire. Good luck trying to apply enough internal pressure to stretch the tunica without injuring the tissues in the fully erect state. I think it's better to jelq at no higher then a 60-70% erection so some elasitciy and pliablility is still there for your to manover blood and pressure into different areas of the penis.

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

yes kingssnake but i thought it was the corpa cavernosa that we where trying to expand and that the tunica is just what hold the direction , but i do understand you when you say that if the tunica is so firmit takes an extreme pressure to expand the tissue . i think i understand tell me if im right . when you jelq with a lower erection it gives your tissue more of a stretching capabuility wich alows the inner penir to tear and lirrle by little you gain girth?
also id like to post the way i was thinking befor just so people who read understand wht i was thinking .
i thought that becaus it was under so much pressure that the added pressure would surley tear or(expand) my girth but what i didnt realize is that when its fully erect it takes a dramatic amout of pressure to actually stretch the tissue .

 

[kingsnake]

You are on the right track. Remember though the corpa cavernosa is not the main thing that needs plastic deformation. You see the corpa cavernosa has the capacity to obsorb and hold a lot of blood. What mainly limits the corpa cavernosa blood filling capacity is the strong fibers of the tunica that surrounds it.

Here is an example. Lets say your corpa cavernosa's spongy tissue can hod 1 pint of blood but your tunica that surrounds it can only expand to allow the corpa cavenosa the ability to hold half a pint of blood. That means that the poor old corpa cavenosa can't even use its full potential and hold 1 pint of blood because that damn tunica is to tight and is only alowing half a pint to be held. So the goal is to plastically deform the tunica to allow the corpa cavernosa to hold more blood. More room for blood equals a bigger and fatter penis.

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

so kingsnake does jelqing also stretch or wyden the tunica?

 

[homelesswombat]

I don't jelq at 100&#37; for gains, but rather for erection quality (EQ). When I jelq 100% hardness and use 5-10% manual pressure for about half an hour, my EQ goes through the roof. Remember to stimulate yourself enough to stay 100% erect.

 

[kingsnake]

In my opinion Yes. That is the primary purpose of jelqing. To plastically deform the tunica to a highter internal stretched capacity.

 

[German Stallion]

In my opinion Yes. That is the primary purpose of jelqing. To plastically deform the tunica to a highter internal stretched capacity.

King, you are right...I agree that is the purpose of jelqing. So many guys are doing nothing but running their hands down the shaft without pressure of any kind. Good slow jelqs with pressure pushing blood into the glans are what is the goal. Yes, you will often get those blood spots on the glans...just normal...or you can and will get bumps on the glans from the pressure you are creating in the penile shaft and end. That is the purpose and goal of deforming/expanding the penis so it will grow! GS

 

[Bound2Gain]

So overall from what everybody is saying , in order to plastically deform the tunica you should NOT jelq at 100 percent erection right? and around 60-70 percent will do the trick for girth gains correct?

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

yes ,bound 2 gain today i did 20 minutes of a slow high pressure jelq session and i expanded a whole quarter inch .nice!!! this is the first time ive had any expantion after a girth session. ill tell you tho my hands and wrist are always killin me after girth sessions !

 

[Xmetal]

One thing that I have found is that you need too stretch, jelq and do pc work for max. gains. I do jelq at 100% but also less as my erection dies while doing jelqing. Add PC squeeze/hold to your jelqing when less than 100%.

 

[AxeMaster911]

what does DLD think he always preached 100 percent jelq for best gains? does this rule apply to stretching and length gains as well?

 

[DLD]

what does DLD think he always preached 100 percent jelq for best gains? does this rule apply to stretching and length gains as well?

For me, erect work definitely produced my fastest girth gains. In my opinion it is all mathematics. Lets say you are jelqing at 80% and you get 10% expansion, you are still below the 100% expansion mark so gains will not manifest as they will when training at 100%. If you train at 100% erect and get 10% expansion you are really doing something, make sense?

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

yes dld but how do you create enough pressure to expand the tunica ?
you see with me when im erect my dick is rock solid and ive tried 100&#37; jelqs for 3 weeks now and ive never gotten any expansion during a session and i go hard , high pressure , and everything?

 

[REDZULU2003]

I found 90&#37;-100% erection the best for the jelq and I have the gains from it, should work for everyone as we all share the same physiological make-up.

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

so what is it that you do red?
if you dont mind me asking thats my main prority.
i really want girth , like i said my first 3 weeks i tried 100&#37; erect jelqs and i never even got any expansion during or after a session.
i need some help!

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

bump

 

[DCI]

why wouldn't 100&#37; work think about when you clamp you clamp at 100% and then add more so you are hitting 110%+ and anyone who clamps can tell you it adds girth.
i see the jelq in the same way i do less then 100% only until i get to 100% as a warm up then when i am 100% i clamp then force as much blood in as possible then i do bends, additional clamping (basically trying to make it flat) then jelq when i am at 110+% until i can't any more.
i also toss in some 100% stretching while clamped (this may be good or bad don't know yet but i sure feel it after)
so far i am at 1/4 " gain from on and off totally non consistent workouts.
my goal is 7" girth as i am at 6.25" right now my length is slowly gaining but i only do a few stretches here and there but i am at about 8.25" aiming for 9.

my biggest gains were in the first month of starting

edit: also i think (from my exp) is that when doing flaccid or semi erect jelq it has more impact on flaccid size (length and girth) more so then erection size.
and the 100% has much bigger effect on erection size but also on the flaccid anyone have this same effect?

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

when your at 100 &#37; erection how do you do bends?
also i tried clamping and although i did get harder the only thing that got bigger were all the veins in my dick, whats the best exercise to catch girth when clamping?

 

[DLD]

when your at 100 % erection how do you do bends?
also i tried clamping and although i did get harder the only thing that got bigger were all the veins in my dick, whats the best exercise to catch girth when clamping?

When doing bends, for me, I will start at 100% but as I begin my penis will go down every slightly...kind of a natural response. I can also do them fully erect but the "roll" is not as great.

 

[kingsnake]

Hey jekyllnhyde360, 100&#37; erect work never really worked for me as well. When I used to jelq and clamp at a 100% erection I didn't get much expansion and all I was doing was messing up my erection quality. For me slow squash jelqs and bends work better when doing them with no more then a 60% erection. Once my dick gets hard to where I can't bend it then i let my erection subcide to where it's pliable again then commence. Since doing this my mid girth and base girth has increased. I'm not saying this is the gospel way to do it but it has been working for me.

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

hey kingsnake ,thanks man i really need to catch some girth.
what do you think about compression squeezes ?
and lastley when doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] and bend at 60&#37; erection are you clamped or just doing it regular? thanks!

 

[kingsnake]

I think compression squeezes work great as well. When I do my 1 hour jelq,ssj,bends and squeeze variations I am only using my hands. Using a clamp does sound like a good idea though. I might try that tonight.

 

[9inches]

I do all my girth exercises 100&#37; errect and it gave me nice girth gains. I think everyone is different, but I can get much more expansion when I do the exercises 100% errect...


MfG

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

i guess everyone really is diffrent becaus i dont even gains expansion when i do 100&#37; erect jelqs and i go hard .

 

[DLD]

i guess everyone really is diffrent becaus i dont even gains expansion when i do 100% erect jelqs and i go hard .

I think a lot of it has to do with tunica density. Eventually, in girth work, the tunica becomes more elastic and workable at higher erection levels. Start around 80% and work up to a higher level. But, as you said, everyone is different so some experimentation will be necessary.

 

[jekyllnhyde360]

most definetly!

 

[youknow]

I usually do my jelqs anywhere from 90-100% erect. I follow jelqing with a 15 minute clamping routine. Then I jelq for another 5-10 minutes. I've gotten really good expansion.

 

[AxeMaster911]

I am with DLD on this one I get much better results jelqing fully erect even stretching fully erect I get good results.