VACHANGER: any one gain using lower weights (5 lbs and under) and longer times?

youknowme123321 · Dec 3, 2015

acromegaly;676755 said:
wow thats cool im really tempted, let us know how it goes

I will. Videos will be made as well

johng6 · Dec 3, 2015

I'm really interested in your water-based hanging method youknowme123321 since I have the LG Hanger as well. I have had 3 blisters including 1 huge one and now every time I hang, I have significant deep blue/purple bruising along the tip of the glans around my urethra.

To be clear, you suck the air out of the chamber with your mouth? I don't use the pump that came with the hanger then? I apologize if this is obvious.

youknowme123321 · Dec 3, 2015

johng6;676802 said:
I'm really interested in your water-based hanging method youknowme123321 since I have the LG Hanger as well. I have had 3 blisters including 1 huge one and now every time I hang, I have significant deep blue/purple bruising along the tip of the glans around my urethra.

To be clear, you suck the air out of the chamber with your mouth? I don't use the pump that came with the hanger then? I apologize if this is obvious.

Yes with your mouth. Just enough so that practically no water is left in the chamber. There is usually a small amount of air left. I'll probably make the water videos sooner then next month. When I do you'll be able to find it here.

You may be increasing your weight to quickly

stillwantmore · Dec 9, 2015

LG hanger has been on the market per se for over 2 years now. Plenty of time for documentation of measured gains. Time to start collecting threads and making evaluations as to actual effectiveness. I nominate YKM since he's got his finger on the sphincter of the vacuum hanger thing. The only "results" threads I am able to so far turn up on the LG are men talking about how they can use it to hang for hours on end and how great things feel. Those are not results in my book. At the end of the day, and to be fair and honest, the only thing that counts as results is measured gains. I hate to keep coming off so biased against vac hangers, because I really wish they were the "next leap forward" as the LG makes likes to claim, but this is the "Max Vac" in concept all over again with new paint on the walls in my opinion. Made "custom" by a "master machinist", or not. I'm just playing devils' advocate. If someone can do the footwork and find more than a couple actual results threads where the guy has used the LG either exclusively, or in addition to a routine and had measured length increases, please share them.

Moderators and Admins from PE gym (vested interests) do not count as it is in their best interest to help promote the device.

It's not fair to anyone in the PE community to push the "latest" thing in PE devices just because the guy/s selling it can afford to pay big money to promote it on places like PE gym. Especially if the actual results are anecdotal. We all have to keep in mind, just because a "new" product has a big marketing budget behind it and a large forum/site promoting it, does not mean it is an effective product.

templnite · Dec 9, 2015

Be serious man this LG hanger thing has been put to sleep XD. Still keep the onslaught coming as there may be young minds that haven't seen the light. *for the emperor*

Commodore · Dec 9, 2015

if YKM can show my how to hang 13-15 lb with the LG hanger it will be amazing. I would use it as a post workout, 60 min straight hang with 13lb. That is a very good addition to my routine. some times my penis skin is fatigu and do not like to get wrapt, sometimes i am not in the mood for wraping and do the regular hanging, then Vacum hanging with 15lb could come in.

Be positive guys, this could be a good thing, at least it cant be that bad

stillwantmore · Dec 9, 2015

I'm being positive. I'm asking for transparency and validation showing results from people who have had time to see results.

templnite · Dec 9, 2015

It can be that bad unless you treat PE like a hobby more than like a productive mission. Some people become 'institutionalized' meaning they are so conditioned to the prison life that they cant function in normal society.
This is similar to what happens with crazy tube-packers who drool over the idea of only packing tubes all day everyday. (Just like the vac-hanger guys who only want to hang all day without real results just because)

Don't get me wrong I enjoy doing PE, and I like the burn I get when I'm really hitting the tissues hard. Only I enjoy it not because of anything more than knowing ill gain.

deadwood187 · Dec 9, 2015

stillwantmore2;677575 said:
LG hanger has been on the market per se for over 2 years now. Plenty of time for documentation of measured gains. Time to start collecting threads and making evaluations as to actual effectiveness. I nominate YKM since he's got his finger on the sphincter of the vacuum hanger thing. The only "results" threads I am able to so far turn up on the LG are men talking about how they can use it to hang for hours on end and how great things feel. Those are not results in my book. At the end of the day, and to be fair and honest, the only thing that counts as results is measured gains. I hate to keep coming off so biased against vac hangers, because I really wish they were the "next leap forward" as the LG makes likes to claim, but this is the "Max Vac" in concept all over again with new paint on the walls in my opinion. Made "custom" by a "master machinist", or not. I'm just playing devils' advocate. If someone can do the footwork and find more than a couple actual results threads where the guy has used the LG either exclusively, or in addition to a routine and had measured length increases, please share them.

Moderators and Admins from PE gym (vested interests) do not count as it is in their best interest to help promote the device.

It's not fair to anyone in the PE community to push the "latest" thing in PE devices just because the guy/s selling it can afford to pay big money to promote it on places like PE gym. Especially if the actual results are anecdotal. We all have to keep in mind, just because a "new" product has a big marketing budget behind it and a large forum/site promoting it, does not mean it is an effective product.

Vacuum is vacuum.It has limitations due to the pressure the vacuum creates. No amount of engineering will stop the laws of physics.

And why trust YKM? He has vested interest in products. They properly called him out elsewhere. It would be like trusting you.If you have a vested interest in a product your word means jack.

runningignus · Dec 9, 2015

acromegaly;676755 said:
wow thats cool im really tempted, let us know how it goes

Make your own. Over at plungers place, they a thread in good detail about making your own vacuum hanger. On other forums as well. Simple pvc pipe cap, rounded of course, sized accordingly, female pump fitting tapped and glued, hose for sucking air out, and voila. You probably already have a sleeve to use. I do lol. Very intricate detail and yet so simple. Has pictures of hanging plenty of weight but attached to an object, not a penis. I'll have to read further through to verify but simple enough I believe.

youknowme123321 · Dec 9, 2015

Commodore;677589 said:
if YKM can show my how to hang 13-15 lb with the LG hanger it will be amazing. I would use it as a post workout, 60 min straight hang with 13lb. That is a very good addition to my routine. some times my penis skin is fatigu and do not like to get wrapt, sometimes i am not in the mood for wraping and do the regular hanging, then Vacum hanging with 15lb could come in.

Be positive guys, this could be a good thing, at least it cant be that bad

I will be making videos by January for sure. I may have videos for the VH3 and LGhangers howing how to apply them with water before Christmas but not sure if I will find the time to shoot the videos and then prepare them.

youknowme123321 · Dec 9, 2015

stillwantmore2;677575 said:
LG hanger has been on the market per se for over 2 years now. Plenty of time for documentation of measured gains. Time to start collecting threads and making evaluations as to actual effectiveness. I nominate YKM since he's got his finger on the sphincter of the vacuum hanger thing. The only "results" threads I am able to so far turn up on the LG are men talking about how they can use it to hang for hours on end and how great things feel. Those are not results in my book. At the end of the day, and to be fair and honest, the only thing that counts as results is measured gains. I hate to keep coming off so biased against vac hangers, because I really wish they were the "next leap forward" as the LG makes likes to claim, but this is the "Max Vac" in concept all over again with new paint on the walls in my opinion. Made "custom" by a "master machinist", or not. I'm just playing devils' advocate. If someone can do the footwork and find more than a couple actual results threads where the guy has used the LG either exclusively, or in addition to a routine and had measured length increases, please share them.

Moderators and Admins from PE gym (vested interests) do not count as it is in their best interest to help promote the device.

It's not fair to anyone in the PE community to push the "latest" thing in PE devices just because the guy/s selling it can afford to pay big money to promote it on places like PE gym. Especially if the actual results are anecdotal. We all have to keep in mind, just because a "new" product has a big marketing budget behind it and a large forum/site promoting it, does not mean it is an effective product.

I understand what you're saying for sure. But 2 years is not enough. Most men who do PE like any form of exercises don't stay dedicated long enough to produce results which can take a year or more some men. It will be many more years before there is what can be perceived as conclusive evidence for vachangers. Many positive results men report for tools that have been around for much much longer can still be debated.

I am loving vac style hangers so far and they are a great addition to my manual stretches with compression style stretchers. I will see and then share what I get out of this many months down the road but will update and share how it goes throughout that time. Vac hangers are going through skepticism like all PE tools did and still to. We will see if more positive results come in the future. But that future is years away.

Also many men who use most tools don't participate in the forums. So who knows what results the larger population of men who don't communicate in the PE world are seeing across the board of all tools.

boohoohoo · Dec 9, 2015

I've hung 15 lbs for an hour straight with a compression hanger (the Bib Starter). I've done this many many times. The only problem was that it killed my EQ. I personally think if you are going to hang light weights for long periods you might as well just buy a good extender with good attachments and find a way to hide it so you can wear it all day. Just my thoughts.

youknowme123321 · Dec 9, 2015

deadwood187;677595 said:
Vacuum is vacuum.It has limitations due to the pressure the vacuum creates. No amount of engineering will stop the laws of physics.

And why trust YKM? He has vested interest in products. They properly called him out elsewhere. It would be like trusting you.If you have a vested interest in a product your word means jack.

Every tool has limitations based on its design and how it functions. Some people just like to latch onto an idea and put down others rather then putting in the time to work with it themselves. That is where I come in. Then there is the limitation of each individual man. 2 men may use the same compression hanger and same extender for the same amount of time and intensity but one will see an inch in gains and the other nothing. The same will go for all PE tools including vachangers. When I talk about vachangers I am speaking of the positive experience I have had so far. I don't understand why some talk about my experience like I am saying this the best PE thing to ever come along and like I'm saying it will give you inches so quickly like nothing else before it.

And why are you saying I have a vested interest? And who called me out where? Thunder's people saying I am behind the gripping trainer which I shot down with facts? Is that what you're talking about? What is with member saying things without providing proof information and evidence to back it up. You say I have a vested interest but don't explain how I do. Then you say I was called out elsewhere for my vested interest but again don't explain how I was. You are just telling lies.

So instead of coming here and providing help I have to talk about this type of stuff.

stillwantmore · Dec 9, 2015

deadwood187;677595 said:
Vacuum is vacuum.It has limitations due to the pressure the vacuum creates. No amount of engineering will stop the laws of physics.

And why trust YKM? He has vested interest in products. They properly called him out elsewhere. It would be like trusting you.If you have a vested interest in a product your word means jack.

Standing by your philosophy there, why don't you just go ahead and say the same about DLD? He has a vested interest in every single product recommended here. YKM has no permission to represent anything here. Sure, he can tell us his opinions. I have permission to represent my devices here. You have a flawed thought pattern there, but whatever. I am here to represent my products, answer questions about them and I also coach men on using them...and on hanging in general.

youknowme123321 · Dec 9, 2015

stillwantmore2;677682 said:
Standing by your philosophy there, why don't you just go ahead and say the same about DLD? He has a vested interest in every single product recommended here. YKM has no permission to represent anything here. Sure, he can tell us his opinions. I have permission to represent my devices here. You have a flawed thought pattern there, but whatever. I am here to represent my products, answer questions about them and I also coach men on using them...and on hanging in general.

Well put.

Commodore · Dec 10, 2015

boohoohoo;677628 said:
I've hung 15 lbs for an hour straight with a compression hanger (the Bib Starter). I've done this many many times. The only problem was that it killed my EQ. I personally think if you are going to hang light weights for long periods you might as well just buy a good extender with good attachments and find a way to hide it so you can wear it all day. Just my thoughts.

hey whats up buddy.

you do not hang 60min straight with compression hanger, that would problably couse problems EQ or something else. Not that i have done it but i think DLD,Still and BiB would confirm that.

15-20 min ( no more than 20min ) sets are what we ame for... but you Boohoohoo probably know this now.

templnite · Dec 10, 2015

Is that why they didn't want you to affiliate at pegym still, because you didn't come hard with that cash money <

? I know they promote the vac over at plungers, but I think they gave thunderSS like one dollar which was enough to feed him/his lackeys for a year. They probably gave a vac to the other THOTs just so they can say it works. They will never breach the brotherhood force-fields doe

deadwood187 · Dec 10, 2015

templnite;677730 said:
Is that why they didn't want you to affiliate at pegym still, because you didn't come hard with that cash money <? I know they promote the vac over at plungers, but I think they gave thunderSS like one dollar which was enough to feed him/his lackeys for a year. They probably gave a vac to the other THOTs just so they can say it works. They will never breach the brotherhood force-fields doe

I think I like this post but can you do the whole thing in English?

youknowme123321 · Dec 10, 2015

templnite;677730 said:
Is that why they didn't want you to affiliate at pegym still, because you didn't come hard with that cash money <? I know they promote the vac over at plungers, but I think they gave thunderSS like one dollar which was enough to feed him/his lackeys for a year. They probably gave a vac to the other THOTs just so they can say it works. They will never breach the brotherhood force-fields doe

Who are you talking to? This post doesn't make sense and then you can't be sure who you are even talking to?

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