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hey.. guys..

I would like to share my ANS (All-Night-Stretcher) or Anti-turtle device. I prefer to look at this method as an Anti-turtle instead of ANS.

I am afraid to use high tension GearKeepers. For this reason, 12 oz retraction force is more than enough to avoid turtling during my daily 8 hours sleeping.


These are the following devices you will need.

a) VacHanger 3 (autoextender dot com) (you might have to purchase the complete set, because if you only purchase the cylinder, it comes without the tubing/clamps.)

b) GearKeeper (my model is RT2-0032)
- 12 oz Retraction Force
- 60 lbs Breaking Strengh
- 20" Extension
(gearkeeper dot com) or ebay dot com

Attn.: There are many models, but I prefer use the light tension. (I love my penis) :)

c) The connector name between VacHanger and GearKepper is "S-biner", you will be able to find on HomeDepot.

d) The bed bungle cord is from thegripsystem dot com, but you should be able to use any cord to attach the vachanger/gearkeeper to your bed.

e) the pinch clamp is available on ebay/amazon.

I've been using this Anti-turtle device or ANS during 8 hours night sleeping since September, and never had any blister, swallow or edema.
Actually, I only had a little bit of edema 2 times in 3 months because I was doing physical exercises with
the device attached to my penis in my bed.... LOL "What a retard"...ahaahah

I sleep face down, on side right/left, on my back easily without any problems. This method is much better then Phallosan ANS.

Here is my procedure:

1) I insert my penis inside
2) I do not suck the air out using the vacuum tubing.
3) I use 2 pinch clamp to make sure there is not air coming out through the vacuum tubing.
4) Roll back the new Phallosan large size FDA approved down on my penis
5) That is it!!! :)
6) I do NOT use cone ring, fluid tape or phallosan condom.

Attn.: My advice is to set your clock to 30 min to an hour to take a nap during the day till you get use to this method. Keep in mind,
we all have different penis, and they react differently .. what is good for me, might not be good for you. So please use your BRAIN and run some test before you decide to sleep with it attach to your penis daily.

Like I had already mentioned, I've been sleeping with this device for over 3 months without any problems, and this method "in my opinion" and "for myself" is much more comfortable and reliable then sleeping with Phallosan.


Attn.: I will be sharing my All Day Stretcher device method device next week. (there is nothing original about this method, but I think is worth sharing with you guys again)

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Prices on everything? Ouch, $89 for just the suction cup??? Do golden glove wearing elves make them? I'm always encouraged when I see stuff like this selling for a lot more money!
 
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What do you not like about the phallosan? This seems really expensive and also a bit of a hassle to cobble it all together.
 
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Expensive,? It is $89.00 for the basic package not just a cylinder. LG Hanger is $ 245.00 and Bib Hanger is $ 130.00.
Please keep in mind that our moderator was sharing a video & pics regarding his vachanger 3 experiences and nobody was being negative. And when I mentioned that I am using vachanger 3 for something else instead of hanger. He wanted to know about it. So I am just trying to be helpful to my colleagues in this forum.

VIDEOS & PICS - VacHanger3 - First Time Use

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...ics-vachanger3-first-time-use.html#post625274



Also, I am not promoting or selling any PE devices and neither I am brainwashing anyone to follow my method. !!!

What is wrong with Phallosan? There is pro and cons with Phallosan like any PE device in the market. Many people in the PE communities already requested an extra large Phallosan cylinder, and Orbisan company “phallosan maker” is still ignoring their customers. So I had NO choice then to figure out my own All Night Sleep device. J In my point of view, the best PE companies are the ones who are listening to the PE communities and providing great customer service, and so far, “in my opinion” nobody from orbisan is providing this service at MOS.

Also, everyone should keep in mind; I paid $364.00 (with shipping) for my Phallosan a year ago, so I should have the freedom to provide the pros and cons of this device. L

Here are some pics when I woke up this morning. You will see pics after I slept 8 hours with vachanger 3 and then I took a nap with phallosan wearing a condom. Otherwise, my penis would not get inside the large phallosan cylinder without condom. You see, take a look on my edema after only 1 hour with Phallosan. I was always getting edema with Phallosan with or without condom during sleeping hours. So, here are my reasons, why I am not sleeping with Phallosan anymore. Once again, we all have penises that react differently to each PE device, so if you are ok with your Phallosan during night sleeping – please keep using it. You do not need to spend your hardworking money trying different methods. J I am still using my Phallosan with VLC Tugger belt during the day.

A pic of my glans after I woke up this morning.

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the remaining pics is 1 hour nap with phallosan

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Attn.: Once again, I was sharing my anti-turtle method or ANS because the moderator wanted to know about it.

Folks, have a great day :)
 
Thanks for your thread, very informative and gives less expensive options to the Phallosan. It looks like you put a lot of effort in to this so I thank you for that.
 
Thanks for the post man, it looks like a well thought out idea. That being said, and I am not trying to be negative towards you OP, but I am still firmly against any type of PE while asleep. It is just too risky IMO to be worth it.
 
Thanks Boohoohoo.. I also respect in your opinion.

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hey guys the price of the GearKeeper is around $20.00 at eBay.
 
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doublelongdaddy;625343 said:
Thanks for your thread, very informative and gives less expensive options to the Phallosan. It looks like you put a lot of effort in to this so I thank you for that.


Thank you DLD. I know some folks are afraid wearing PE device All Night Stretcher even though my method looks like more an anti-turtle device. It is just 12oz..

12oz = 340.194 grams

12oz = 0.340194 kilograms

12oz = 0.75 Pound

This is nothing.!! Furthermore, I used to wear Phallosan for 1 year during sleep hours at night without any problem besides edema sometimes. So as you all can see, 1 year Phallosan + 3 months Vachanger 3 sleeping time for 8 hours at night. This is a total of 15 months. My penis is still handsome as ever before.

To clarify my method to some of my colleagues here. Everyone should keep in mind, this is not something new. There are 2 famous PE companies that their users have been sleeping with their devices for a long time, and so far, I haven't heard anyone lost their penises.

Examples:

VITALLUS PLUS

vitallusPLUS


Lasting penis enlargement with regared to length and circumference

Regular use of the vitallusPLUS® for 6 to 8 hours daily over at least 3 to 6 months leads to a lasting enlargement of the penis in terms of length and circumference. vitallusPLUS® can be comfortably used at night during sleep.

PHALLOSAN

FAQ - PHALLOSAN® forte

Can I wear Phallosan Forte night?

According to the latest tests PHALLOSAN® forte can be worn when sleeping. If natural erections may occur several times at night the condom will stretch to accommodate them. Blood circulation is not impeded.

I believe the Germany regulatory healthy institutions had already investigated those claims, and as far I know about the German culture. They would not allow these companies misleading their customers. Moreover, FDA approved the Phallosan Forte device and condoms.

In my case, the (tbone method), the vachanger cylinder is large then Phallosan cylinder to accommodate those users who have a large penis, and is impossible to the condom to cut blood circulation. In addition, the oxygen your penis needs during the sleep hours is received through other parts of your body. For this reasons, I believe this method with vachanger and Phallosan attached to a Gear Keeper is safe, unless if you girlfriend use the Gear Keeper to strangle you during your sleeping hours. :)
 
boohoohoo;625356 said:
Thanks for the post man, it looks like a well thought out idea. That being said, and I am not trying to be negative towards you OP, but I am still firmly against any type of PE while asleep. It is just too risky IMO to be worth it.

I can understand your reservations. What are your thoughts on people like the OP and myself (i use PF) who do it successfully?
 
great thread! Thank you for sharing. I have been in nice warm weather down south all weekend so I will have to take a better look when i can keep my eyes open and retain what I read and fully get your set up lol. people talking about price of things is always interesting. many active forum members often say things are to expensive. but even more probably don't. And as you alluded to...some seem to really be against higher PE tool pricing b/c of ulterior motives.

I really enjoy seeing other members posting in depth informative threads like this with pics to go along. it makes it so much easier to understand. think you will ever do any vids?
 
I love it! I truly believe YKM has been incredibly helpful! His videos have helped ALL of us come up with new things and gain better understanding on how devices work.
 
Zambrodom3;625947 said:
I love it! I truly believe YKM has been incredibly helpful! His videos have helped ALL of us come up with new things and gain better understanding on how devices work.

Agree 100%, his video have really helped men understand many things that words can not express.
 
Thanks... I never go to bed without attaching this device. Just to let you know if in case you decide to try this method. My Cylinder and Condom are larger size.

You will need to purchase a GearKeeper at amazon or ebay. If you can't find a 12oz or lower. The manufacturer provides a list of all the dealers around your city.

Dealer Locator-Gear Keeper

You will also need a rope to attach to your bed (just see the pics how I did it) ... and that is it.

You will notice your penis will be huge next morning. I really believe this method is beneficial for a lot of members in this forum, but there is no marketing campaign in this method like Phallosan and Sizegenetics. So people will be skeptical and never give it a try.

Hopefully, you will like it ,and eventually you will make a video... :)



Attn.: I will be sharing my ADS (All Day Stretcher) in few weeks.


talk to you later..
 
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tbone350;626356 said:
It seems the Admin might have removed those pics.

I can still see all the pictures tbone.
 
stillwantmore2;625275 said:
Prices on everything? Ouch, $89 for just the suction cup??? Do golden glove wearing elves make them? I'm always encouraged when I see stuff like this selling for a lot more money!

I've read through 10-15 threads today. I have come across you in 3 of them and each time you are harping about price. This thread. A cool thread showing some Tools produced in Russia and another thread about pumping. Is it a correct assumption that you are always drawn to comment like this as a marketing tool because you sell a lower cost product that you are looking to bring attention to? I came to this presumption just now when I read your, "I'm always encouraged when I see stuff like this selling for a lot more money!" comment.
 
how do you find this to be more reliable? My phallosan should arrive tomorrow and this is a cool set up. But I won't be getting a vac hanger anytime soon. Maybe someday though. The 12 oz fear thing is cool. So it applies a constant 12 oz of pull no matter how far you pull the cable out?
 
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