VACHANGER: any one gain using lower weights (5 lbs and under) and longer times?

youknowme123321 · Dec 14, 2015

templnite;678446 said:
Yeah alright cowboy just make sure to learn how to wrap first XD in these posts you're begging stillwantsmore to show you how XD
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/hanging-around-penis-enlargement-hanging/87289-iveadreams-hanging-log-9.html#post678443

There you go lying again, cowgirl. Below you can see I am not begging. I simply ask if he made a video showing how he does his wrap and then goes right into hanging. One video rather then 2. You make yourself look so bad with all your lies, cowgirl. And I'm using a vacuum hanger...I don't need a wrap like that, imbecile.

youknowme123321;678443 said:
No need to say no offense. Doesn't matter to me how someone wraps. All that matters is any man finds the best way to wrap for themselves. WOuld you ever consider making a video where you show how to do your wrap then you apply the weight after showing how you apply the wrap and the hanger? That would help so many men

SWM - Do you have this video already? Or do you only show hanging once the wrap and hanger are already in place? If it doesn't exist that would be a great video. One straight shot.

templnite · Dec 14, 2015

Yeah you better quote that shit for me. Respect my green bars! Also don't get mad if I don't quote your replys because most of the time I don't even read them its always the same name calling anyway.

templnite · Dec 14, 2015

And you're gonna use the vac exclusively for that 1+ year not just say you did but really use hanger(that's why you're asking for instructions on wrap):cool:Busted:cool:
My green bars demand this!

youknowme123321 · Dec 14, 2015

templnite;678448 said:
Yeah you better quote that shit for me. Respect my green bars! Also don't get mad if I don't quote your replys because most of the time I don't even read them its always the same name calling anyway.

I'm aware reading is tough for you. Remember you called others names first. Even got talked to about it from mods. Respect your green bars...hahaha everyone here calls you a troll and says to ignore you.

youknowme123321 · Dec 14, 2015

templnite;678451 said:
And you're gonna use the vac exclusively for that 1+ year not just say you did but really use hanger(that's why you're asking for instructions on wrap):cool:Busted:cool:
My green bars demand this!

Hahaha more trolling. The hanger isn't the tool for me. You know why I asked if that video SWM had made that video. In my message to Iveadream I say a video like that would help many men. Unlike you I hold no bias. I want any man using any tool to have the best chance to use it properly. Unlike you who is an MOS troll. Every forum has them. Go mention lengthmaster at the other forums and a trolling member just like you will pop up and say how you must be a shill for talking about the lengthmaster at one of the other forums. I've experienced talking about the lm and MH2 at other forums. They have their own trolling tempinites over there that no on likes and everyone says to ignore

youknowme123321;678443 said:
No need to say no offense. Doesn't matter to me how someone wraps. All that matters is any man finds the best way to wrap for themselves. WOuld you ever consider making a video where you show how to do your wrap then you apply the weight after showing how you apply the wrap and the hanger? That would help so many men

SWM - Do you have this video already? Or do you only show hanging once the wrap and hanger are already in place? If it doesn't exist that would be a great video. One straight shot.

templnite · Dec 14, 2015

templnite;678425 said:
I wasn't even talking to you I know you're a fan boy of those products, I was letting the other guy know

youknowme123321;678428 said:
Yes you were you liar. In post #13 you were referencing what I said in post #12 only 9 minutes after I said autoextender and lg sleeves were the best. But you provided no info.
Troll

Lololol you posted in the wrong thread. I'm gonna cross-post on purpose because this needs to all be added to your body of work which is here. See i wasn't talking to you there on the phallosan thread I was just exposing what huge girth said before on his . He is a real mod here, and can pass judgement of that company since he's not a fanboy like fifteen year olds who like Justin Beiber.

youknowme123321 · Dec 15, 2015

templnite;678460 said:
Lololol you posted in the wrong thread. I'm gonna cross-post on purpose because this needs to all be added to your body of work which is here. See i wasn't talking to you there on the phallosan thread I was just exposing what huge girth said before on his . He is a real mod here, and can pass judgement of that company since he's not a fanboy like fifteen year olds who like Justin Beiber.

Yes you were talking to me. Right after I said I like autoextender sleeves, immediately in the next post you said huge girth said they suck. No one else mentioned autoextender sleeves except me in that thread and right after I did you posted about them sucking. You wouldn;t have said that unless I said that I like them. You just follow me around trolling. That is why everyone says to ignore you and you aren't worth the time.

Go read all my positive posts about the lm, pf, and bm here at MOS you troll. You'll see I like many tools and help many men use them. You help nobody.

That is weird of you to reference your following me around here at MOS as being like a 15 year old who likes and follows around justin bieber. So you are to me as a 15 year old girl is to justin bieber...if you say so but I'd prefer you stop following me around in here and stop trolling. But hey...those girls don't stop following justin bieber either so I guess you're gonna be following me for a while. Just like those girls you have no life of your own...sad

templnite · Dec 15, 2015

You may find this hard to believe cause of your attention deficiency complex, but just because I post something generally doesn't mean you have to take it personally. I have told you how you require acknowledgment remember?
Well now you're proving just that by appropriating my posts. No one is talking to you were just talking, but you need attention so you make it about you.
Go to the thread in my signature where I wrote the prophesy long ago. You're trying to turn a prophet into a troll all because you want to turn a profit *illuminati confirmed*

youknowme123321 · Dec 15, 2015

templnite;678470 said:
You may find this hard to believe cause of your attention deficiency complex, but just because I post something generally doesn't mean you have to take it personally. I have told you how you require acknowledgment remember?
Well now you're proving just that by appropriating my posts. No one is talking to you were just talking, but you need attention so you make it about you.
Go to the thread in my signature where I wrote the prophesy long ago. You're trying to turn a prophet into a troll all because you want to turn a profit *illuminati confirmed*

Don't message me and I won't message you back. You commented to me about using water with hanging even though I wasn't talking about hanging I was talking about all night stretching. Then you responded to me talking about autoextender. I was messaging other members until you messaged me. And it my responses to you I was cordial until you went on to say accuse me of a nice plug. I was answering another persons questions and you just had to message me a try to troll me. Had you never messaged me I would have never messaged you. You are the one who always starts this.

I would never waste my time reading a thread written by you. I may as well put a computer in front of my pet and read what it manages to type out. if I was going to consider reading someone who talks about illuminati confirmations and calls himself a prophet. That is basic trolling right there

templnite · Dec 15, 2015

We can put an end to the violence just log out. You've only been here two hour longer than you usually are because of our little chat. Like I said its gonna be hard for you to get this, but subliminally you want me to keep talking to you. With the statement "fifteen year olds will always follow just Beiber so you must follow me a while too" you secretly wish that ill always be around don't you

youknowme123321 · Dec 15, 2015

templnite;678472 said:
We can put an end to the violence just log out. You've only been here two hour longer than you usually are because of our little chat. Like I said its gonna be hard for you to get this, but subliminally you want me to keep talking to you. With the statement "fifteen year olds will always follow just Beiber so you must follow me a while too" you secretly wish that ill always be around don't you

Please improve your reading skills. I bolded and increased the font size. Stop messaging me and making up lies and I will never message you, troll. You are the one who first messaged me and keeps on messaging me. If you never message me again I will never message you. The quote you provided wasn't from me, liar. I added the quote below so you can see what it actually says. Why would you write your own fake quotes when you can just click a button and get the exact quote...oh it's b/c you want to lie.

We'll see what your next lie is. Who knows maybe you wont message me again and then I will never message you. That would be so nice

youknowme123321;678469 said:
That is weird of you to reference your following me around here at MOS as being like a 15 year old who likes and follows around justin bieber. So you are to me as a 15 year old girl is to justin bieber...if you say so but I'd prefer you stop following me around in here and stop trolling. But hey...those girls don't stop following justin bieber either so I guess you're gonna be following me for a while. Just like those girls you have no life of your own...sad

deadwood187 · Dec 15, 2015

youknowme123321;678474 said:
Please improve your reading skills. I bolded and increased the font size. Stop messaging me and making up lies and I will never message you, troll. You are the one who first messaged me and keeps on messaging me. If you never message me again I will never message you. The quote you provided wasn't from me, liar. I added the quote below so you can see what it actually says. Why would you write your own fake quotes when you can just click a button and get the exact quote...oh it's b/c you want to lie.

We'll see what your next lie is. Who knows maybe you wont message me again and then I will never message you. That would be so nice

Did someone forget to put an "off" button on this shill model? Jesus Christ you are obnoxious. Anyone trusting your word is an idiot

templnite · Dec 18, 2015

templnite;675240 said:
Water would amplify vacuum, and make it even worse

youknowme123321;675273 said:
It exists with water. I have experienced no blistering since beginning to use water. I did when trying to go heavy and use various wrapping techniques from tape to glans caps and everything in between. The vacuum pressure that exists within a vachanging chamber when using water is different from a water pump such as a bathmate. With a vachanger there is no where for the water to escape from to apply the constant penis expanding vacuum pressure that we see with water pumps. Water pumps push or suck water out giving a negative pressure that results in strong vacuum pressure leading to tissue expansion. With a vachanger, once most of the air is removed from the chamber and it is clamped off so that no more air can escape, the vacuum pressure that increases with added weight leads to a compressing force to be applied to glans through the water. This compressing force provides protection against blistering and discoloration. I still experience slight glans swelling (edema) after removing the cap but that goes away within 30 or so minutes (though I wish it wouldn't, lol) and mild discoloration that goes away within 5 minutes.

Untrue. Read my reply above to SWM explaining why water works to prevent blistering and discoloration.

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Here you can see me hanging 12.73 lbs using the VH3 with water. I can maintain this weight for an hour with no issues. A small air bubble can be seen. The glans looks very enlarged in the pic but that is only b/c water magnifies. That much swelling has not occurred to me. I built up weight slowly though over a long period of time just like you should do with any hanging device. As I explained above the air bubble expands and increases in size with added weight but shrinks to practically nothing when no weight is applied. There will always be a small amount of air left in the chamber. At the top of the pic the 2 clips from the suspenders can be seen. Usually I attach those right to the glans cap bar. Since they are attached to the scale I couldn't get over 13 lbs b/c the suspenders were less stretched and I couldn't sit back any further in bed. The suspenders are at max tension. I will start using a resistant band again once I decide to increase the tension but for now I am comfortable here.

Since becoming more experience with vachanging over the months it is my belief this is the best way to hang. BUT ONLY WITH WATER!! If you don't use water expect blistering. The other benefit to water is you don't have to spend money on wrapping materials. Just super small amounts of water lol.

Tools like the lengthmaster still have their place though. I recommend using one to perform manual stretches, especially bundled stretches, before a hanging session. I feel tools like the bib or malehanger2 will be used less and less until only the uneducated are buying them. And if money is an issue and that is why someone is buying a hanger then look into the gripping trainer. It is cheaper and much better.

youknowme123321;679027 said:
I didn't say that. I never said there won't be increased pressure. I said that without water escaping through a port the increased pressure leads to a compressive force with the water on the glans resulting in preventing blood blisters. Below is a quote of exactly what I said..

You got all sciency about it here (the bold part shows vacuum behaving the same as any vacuum based tool , but you act like there's something magical about the hanger that changes laws of nature), but the fact of the matter is water does make the pulling force much greater and more dangerous in this instance.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-products-and-reviews/87595-lg-hanger-please-post-your-results-reviews.html#post679027

templnite · Dec 18, 2015

deadwood187;677790 said:
No. You come in to shill certain products (Vachanger being one) and push your OWN product. I'll leave it at that.

It all makes sense now https://www.thundersplace.org/progress-reports/i-gained-my-new-progress-thread.html

youknowme123321 · Dec 18, 2015

templnite;679046 said:
It all makes sense now https://www.thundersplace.org/progress-reports/i-gained-my-new-progress-thread.html

You're doing this again. Even after you were told to stop.

Read through the few threads where only a few guys, who are Thunder's only promoters like you are an MOS only promoter try to put me down and make up lies to connect me to a tool I have nothing to do with. Without any facts. But luckily I had contact with cooler moderators like there are here that just say to keep helping men and eventually the very few members like you tempinite will go away.

I won't say anything on the matter

templnite · Dec 18, 2015

What are you talking about did I do something wrong? Disclaimer: I would never go back to tp after they viciously attacked my eyes with their crappy posts. Honestly too, all I did was google thundersplace ykm fake, and I was taken to that first thread where I thought "damn this sounds alot like ykm" .
This second thread makes it even more evident what you're upset over, but this time I only googled thundersplace the gripping trainer
(you know that rip-off of the lengthmaster that's not even worth two shits(dried), and a flaccid fuck?) Also why did you denounce your vac hanger faith in post four? I thought vac hangers were the future?
https://www.thundersplace.org/penis-hangers/advancement-of-penis-hangers-since-the-bib.html

youknowme123321 · Dec 19, 2015

templnite;679055 said:
What are you talking about did I do something wrong? Disclaimer: I would never go back to tp after they viciously attacked my eyes with their crappy posts. Honestly too, all I did was google thundersplace ykm fake, and I was taken to that first thread where I thought "damn this sounds alot like ykm" .
This second thread makes it even more evident what you're upset over, but this time I only googled thundersplace the gripping trainer
(you know that rip-off of the lengthmaster that's not even worth two shits(dried), and a flaccid fuck?) Also why did you denounce your vac hanger faith in post four? I thought vac hangers were the future?
https://www.thundersplace.org/penis-hangers/advancement-of-penis-hangers-since-the-bib.html

I tried to hang heavy to soon and paid for it then gave up on the VH3. Then after months of it just sitting around I gave it try again. I stopped using the vacuum ring and began just using a silicone sleeve, built up weight slowly and was able to hang 13 lbs with no issues. Unlike you I come to things or come back to them with an open mind. I hold no bias like the very few �other forum� members who kept coming after me or like you (who is also deadwood) who come after me here at MOS. There is always some people who don't like people when they are talking about things outside of their comfort zone. DLD did and Thunder's gave him shit. I am not looking to develop what DLD has, I just decided to make videos to help men more easily with PE tools and provide them at no charge.

Just like you lied about me having vested interest in the LGhanger they were doing the same about me and the gripping trainer. I never got banned b/c the mods know there is no proof of anything anyone said and many members at Thunder's are very thankful for my helpful free videos that cover pretty much every type of tool.

It's funny...you make me think of Taylor Swift.

templnite · Dec 19, 2015

There's nothing funny here.

youknowme123321 · Dec 19, 2015

templnite;679082 said:
There's nothing funny here.

yes there is. It's you reminding me of Taylor Swift. B/c she has that haters gonna hate hate hate song. You're the hater who keeps hating...on me. See...

You still keep coming after me even though you were told to stop. Are you trying so hard to get me banned that you're willing to get yourself banned again?

You didn't message me for almost 2 days after we were told to stop. It was nice. But then you just have to message me again. And with threads from Thunder's that got put to rest like the mods here are trying to do by telling us to stop. If those things being said over there were true I would have been banned but I am just providing a nice service that is available to their members so I was never banned.

Will you please listen to DLD and the mods and stop. It's nice when we don't interact or reference each other. Those 2 days were great. Let's go back to that b/c we were told to by DLD

templnite · Dec 19, 2015

What exactly do you want me to stop bro? No ones out to get you were just here talking like I was trying to with deadwood until you made yourself a victim. Why don't you shoot down my lies with hard facts like you used to instead of begging me to stop talking. That's all I'm doing after all just talking. If you think that Taylor swift has good advice then take it, and let me talk

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