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ok so recently i havent been having great bathmate sessions - i just havent been getting great expansion, although a couple of days have been alright.
today i trimmed down there to give better suction, and used the bathmate in the bath instead of the shower (which i normally do). well, i got truly amazing expansion - the best ive ever gotten! i did 3 sets with a ssj between them and one warmup set. i filled the tube a little better, and i reached further up the tube than normal. after i got a 0.45inch temporary increase in girth, which for me is a very big deal as i usually dont get more than 0.2 inch. there was some fluid retention but not much. my main question is about the fact that i got ALOT of red blood spots/ burst blood vessels on the shaft. i left my penis to sit in the bath for about 5 minutes to get warm beforehand, then i put the bm on at half pressure, then 3/4 pressure, like i usually do to warmup and get a bit of blood in there in increments rather than all at once. still though i got the blood spots, and i dont know why. i should probably also add that i do get them quite often from the bm, however nowhere near as bad as it is today. they never hurt, juts look bad.

some of the red spots have faded already, but im just wondering why i keep getting these? and also, are they harmful in any way?

also as a side note, does anyone know why i can have fairly similar bm sessions, then now and then randomly a very good one?
 
The red spots are caused by using a higher presure then what your tissues are used to, i still get them randomly after some sets but they allways go away by EOD.

As for the quality of your sessions I think it has a lot to do with your arousal level, EQ and fatigue from previous sessions, there are a lot more factors at play but for me theese are the ones that dictate the quality of my session
 
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The red spots are normal. Any type of girth work where blood stays trapped in your penis will cause them.
 
I used to get them from going more intense; donut effect from going too long. Not anymore, and I believe my dick "just got over that shit". I have gone intense, just not long cuz I've been more efficient with time. Never used a pump, and bearly getting into stretching
 
Blueballs;607744 said:
The red spots are caused by using a higher presure then what your tissues are used to, i still get them randomly after some sets but they allways go away by EOD.

As for the quality of your sessions I think it has a lot to do with your arousal level, EQ and fatigue from previous sessions, there are a lot more factors at play but for me theese are the ones that dictate the quality of my session

the thing is, i started noticing a couple of red spots even on half pressure whilst warming up! couldnt understand it, it did get alot worse when the pressure was at max though.

the quality was just random, didnt feel particularly aroused. guess its just one of those things!

acromegaly;607745 said:
Do you use the extreme? Massage it, getting blood flow will help

no just the standard hercules. i will try a massage next time and see if it helps, thanks

dmoney101;607747 said:
The red spots are normal. Any type of girth work where blood stays trapped in your penis will cause them.

yeah just sometimes its randomly alot worse than others. aslong as its not damaging i guess its alright

tkto;607752 said:
I used to get them from going more intense; donut effect from going too long. Not anymore, and I believe my dick "just got over that shit". I have gone intense, just not long cuz I've been more efficient with time. Never used a pump, and bearly getting into stretching

hopefully over time then it'll stop happening as i dont get to train as often
 
Red spots come with intense girth work, there is no real way to avoid them but they go away rather quickly so I would not worry about them. It sounds like trimming the hair made a big difference, I just did the same thing and wow what a difference. Too much hair can account for inconsistent sessions but also could fatigue, hard to say. What is most important is you are gaining past your normal size and this is how girth is packed on. I hope your sessions remain consistent but if not, do not be hard on yourself, if you can only get a little past your norm you are still doing a good job. Of course getting huge expansion is better but it all adds up.
 
doublelongdaddy;607810 said:
Red spots come with intense girth work, there is no real way to avoid them but they go away rather quickly so I would not worry about them. It sounds like trimming the hair made a big difference, I just did the same thing and wow what a difference. Too much hair can account for inconsistent sessions but also could fatigue, hard to say. What is most important is you are gaining past your normal size and this is how girth is packed on. I hope your sessions remain consistent but if not, do not be hard on yourself, if you can only get a little past your norm you are still doing a good job. Of course getting huge expansion is better but it all adds up.

dyou think i should wait a day before using the bm again, or is it safe to pump with red spots still there?

and yeah hair makes a huge difference. when my hair has grown out just a little i dont get as good suction, and more air leaks in. also sometimes when trying to get to max pressure it just releases the valve, so keeping trimmed very close is very important for me.

as for pressure, last night was way better than normal. on the bathmate there is a line near the top from manufacturing, where the curved bit starts (not sure if this makes sense). since i was passed the ruler sticker, i just took it off and judged my progress with how close to this line near the top i could get. i had made progress, and a few sessions ago just about got to the line. yesterday however, i was about 0.2 inches past the line out of nowhere and got the best temp gain ive ever had after, so i definitely got past my normal size!
 
No reason to not pump as no matter what you do the red spots will appear with an intense session. It is so simple and many men do not heed the advice but to get a good pumping session it is vital to keep the penis trimmed down. I finally got around to trimming yesterday and I had a good pound of hair come off my beastly body:) 6 months without a trim can be pretty scary in my case:)

Your expansion does make sense and I understand what you are saying. Keep this up for every session, some sessions will be better than others but try to keep the expansion past your norm in every case. Somedays you may see an inch of expansion and other maybe 1/4 of that but you are still expanding which will effect the permanent gains.
 
Are you super hard when you put your penis into the BM? If you go in it with an 80 or 70% erection, it may be more malleable and expand more. I noticed now that I'm able to stay harder while I'm putting the pump on, my expansion isn't as much and I don't touch the walls of it anymore. It feels like a more intense pump and the after results are pretty much the same, but I get to like 5.8 instead of more than 6"
 
dmoney101;607951 said:
Are you super hard when you put your penis into the BM? If you go in it with an 80 or 70% erection, it may be more malleable and expand more. I noticed now that I'm able to stay harder while I'm putting the pump on, my expansion isn't as much and I don't touch the walls of it anymore. It feels like a more intense pump and the after results are pretty much the same, but I get to like 5.8 instead of more than 6"

I always start off completely erect and after a few pumps I subside to about 90%. I think ideally 80-90% is the best as long as the expansion is beyond your standard size.
 
doublelongdaddy;608036 said:
I always start off completely erect and after a few pumps I subside to about 90%. I think ideally 80-90% is the best as long as the expansion is beyond your standard size.

I tried going in with just a heavy flaccid, then pumping and working the BM until I was the same size as when I go in erect (I'm assuming my maximum penis size) and I got the exact same expansion as usual. I always come out of it with just a heavy flaccid anyway.
 
dmoney101;608151 said:
I tried going in with just a heavy flaccid, then pumping and working the BM until I was the same size as when I go in erect (I'm assuming my maximum penis size) and I got the exact same expansion as usual. I always come out of it with just a heavy flaccid anyway.

You really want to see a temporary expansion beyond your 100% size, unless I am reading your post wrong. For me it is all math, if I am at 80% I want to gain a temporary gain of at least 30%, if I am at 90% I want to see at least 20%, and so on.
 
ok so i havent solved the red spot issue but im sure itll be fine. i have however been able to make workout a little more consistent by cleaning out my bathmate valve. i get much better and more consistent pressure. i just started another thread to remind people to clean theirs!
 
jordey;608275 said:
ok so i havent solved the red spot issue but im sure itll be fine. i have however been able to make workout a little more consistent by cleaning out my bathmate valve. i get much better and more consistent pressure. i just started another thread to remind people to clean theirs!

The red dots will probably never be solved. Eventually the penis toughens a bit and they become less but still, in an intense environment they will reappear. I saw your post on cleaning the BathMate and that and trimming the pubic hair will always have the pump functioning at 100%. Water can attract much dirt and over time the dirt will cause a interruption in flow, the same thing happens with hair at the base, the flow is interrupted by the excess hair and will cause leakage.
 
doublelongdaddy;608481 said:
The red dots will probably never be solved. Eventually the penis toughens a bit and they become less but still, in an intense environment they will reappear. I saw your post on cleaning the BathMate and that and trimming the pubic hair will always have the pump functioning at 100%. Water can attract much dirt and over time the dirt will cause a interruption in flow, the same thing happens with hair at the base, the flow is interrupted by the excess hair and will cause leakage.

definitely, maintenance of both the body and equipment make a big difference.

for the red spots, ive pumped to some decent pressure lately with not too many bloodspots, so i think i just broke past a big barrier all at once a few days ago which gave the really bad blood spots. to me it indicates progress so im not worried!
 
doublelongdaddy;608260 said:
You really want to see a temporary expansion beyond your 100% size, unless I am reading your post wrong. For me it is all math, if I am at 80% I want to gain a temporary gain of at least 30%, if I am at 90% I want to see at least 20%, and so on.

I'm saying that it grows to the same size regardless of how hard I am beforehand. I get an extra few cm in length and I'm not sure just how much girth I end up at when fully pumped.
 
dmoney101;608559 said:
I'm saying that it grows to the same size regardless of how hard I am beforehand. I get an extra few cm in length and I'm not sure just how much girth I end up at when fully pumped.

I see, sorry for the mix up.
 
No prob homie. Man I decided to do a 3 or 4 day decon because of lack of privacy. My shit has never been so shrunk up. Can't wait to get back in my BM lol
 
dmoney101;608905 said:
No prob homie. Man I decided to do a 3 or 4 day decon because of lack of privacy. My shit has never been so shrunk up. Can't wait to get back in my BM lol

I would expect some shrinkage after how hard you have been hitting it. Fatigue is the culprit and deconditioning will help you get back to good eq and flaccid size.
 
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