Ready to quit for good (DLD or anyone please help)

My name is Chris I’m 20 years old 5’10 and 127 pounds and I’m almost done with trying anymore. There are a lot of factors as to why I’m down but this is a huge part that eats me alive everyday of my life. If you going to post I’m stupid or crazy cause I want to die over this go ahead but it won't change anything. I’ve never had sex in my life and maybe never will cause of how I feel about my girth. I’ve been at this for three months and I just don’t understand how to gain girth. I understand that P.E doesn't’t work for everyone and that three months is not a lot but since I never get a bigger post girth, and it seems you must have to gain I just don't get it. If P.E doesn't work for me I can't live with that.

I’ve tried wet and dry jelq and almost every girth exercises listed on here and other websites and no matter what I NEVER get a bigger post girth. I’ll do my workout get erect and it's still the same at 4.25. I’ve tried different days on and off, took a week off and tried again but still nothing. I've done it for 20 minutes to over an hour and still the same. Is getting a higher post girth mark a must for gains? If so I’m willing to do anything no matter how extreme.

I’ve thought that maybe my body is just so skinny that maybe I can't gain girth but who knows if that is true. I’ve thought that maybe I can't do the jelq grip properly cause of my small girth, I’ve read on here of people that had this girth and gained but I just don’t understand.

I do appreciate anyone if they do post telling me the world is more than how I see it but my mind is set and either I figure this out or I’m done. I will gladly answer any questions that might help solve my problem. Please anyone give me some hope.

mate ur brain is holding you back try hypnosis and exercise ur too skeptical and pessimistic

youve only been at it 3 months. Sit back for a minute and relax. Gains take time for alot of people. Not everyone gains quickly.

It's taken me over 8 months to see any gains. I thought I was wasting my time at first but stuck with it. I started off at 4" EG and am now just over 4.5" I often feel less of a man because of my small willy but fuck it I still enjoy life.
I think the only thing I can say is persevere. If thats not what you want to hear then I'm sorry for the lousy advice.

Have you tried clamping and pumping?

hey man if it makes you feel any better im 18, 5'10'', 145-150ish pounds, and i only have a 4.13 mid shaft girth. Im not complaining or anything, that would just feed the negativity but all im sayin dude is that there is always someone worse off than you in this world. I know the pressure of having a big dick is huge in this distracted world we live in, especially when you have close friends that look up girls online and make sex their pastime. Ive found myself making up excuses to get out of perfect opportunitys with beautiful girls just because of my dick size. I laugh when i see people on these forums who start at lik 6 inch girth and 7 inch length. You guys are fine godammit! save the peing for us haha

And as far as having sex, i know how you feel but you should still try to go with it, just feel the girl out, if shes nice she will respect you. Ive had sex with 3 different girls and noone ever said anything about it. Which especially shocked me because my current girlfriend has been with 9 guys in her past. Just learn how to give a girl some sick cunnulingus and learn how to kiss like a champ, you can sweep almost any girl off her feet.. hell i give my girls orgasms somehow and my dick fucking sucks!

oh and btw we got a choice in this world, love it or hate it. Just get your mindset straight man, you can acheive any of your goals through the power of persuasion and positivity.

Hey man, don't give up!! You've got to change you're thinking. You are thinking way too negative. I believe Penis Enlargement works for everyone that is willing to put forth the effort and have patience. True, some gain faster than others but it will work for everyone. You said you have tried almost every exercise and that may be your problem. It sounds like you are impatient and are looking for the "magic" exercise that will give you overnite results. You need to follow a well laid out plan. If you are doing manual, then follow Dld's program to the letter. If you want to try devices, stillwantmore 2 has an excellent sticky post in the clampers forum here. Bib also has an excellent post at his website www.bibhanger.com on making a uli for girth. If you do decide to clamp, be careful and do it the right way or you can hurt yourself. You've got to be patient and set small goals. Don't measure too often. Post your routine here and I am sure you will get a lot of help. There are many options available, so hang in there.

Do your jelqing on the toilet seat with it up and down, try it as sili as it sounds.

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My name is Chris I’m 20 years old 5’10 and 127 pounds and I’m almost done with trying anymore. There are a lot of factors as to why I’m down but this is a huge part that eats me alive everyday of my life. If you going to post I’m stupid or crazy cause I want to die over this go ahead but it won't change anything. I’ve never had sex in my life and maybe never will cause of how I feel about my girth. I’ve been at this for three months and I just don’t understand how to gain girth. I understand that P.E doesn't’t work for everyone and that three months is not a lot but since I never get a bigger post girth, and it seems you must have to gain I just don't get it. If P.E doesn't work for me I can't live with that.

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I want to address only this first paragraph as you have clearly stated who and what you are with certain belief. Your name Big Dreams already tells me that you have agreed with yourself that your dreams a big...How big are they? We sometimes make simple reality, something easy and simple, so massive that it is just out of our reach. Matters of size are imaginary things. Size is relative to the real matter of it's belief. Have you ever watched a tiny puppy bark as if he were massive, well in the relative mind of that puppy he is huge. We perceive him as small but it makes no MATTER of SIZE to him for he is what he believes he is...BIG. Now, that puppy may be small by measurement standards but when the puppy sees his reflection in his dog dish he see a massive, strong, brave dog. What does the puppy see that the world does not? Is the puppy's bark just as vicious as his massive counterpart? What is missing from the equation? In the simplest word MASS. The puppy has the energy he needs, the belief and drive, he is only missing the particles of mass that will make him what he believes he is, A DOG. How will the puppy grow up? What will he become with all this pretending he is doing? I would wager he is going to be the biggest dog on the block, fuck that, the universe.

Some thing like a tiny puppy becoming a massive dog is a very big thing on the scales of imaginary to real creation but the penis is quite small in comparison. The puppy faces odds in the billions, the penis faces very little odds. If you pull on the penis it will get longer, if you get enough blood in it and massage it with intension, it will girthen....Physics says so and so do millions of real men. So why are you not gaining? When you look in the puppy's drinking bowl what reflection do you see? What is surrounding that reflection, what is the reflection saying to you? Does it tell you that you are a big dog? If you look very closely at the reflection, like a picture, it tells thousands of words, when you consider that your reflection is moving, changeable, creatable, unlike a stationary picture, it speaks volumes.

Separate your desires from the thing you want, eliminate the need and believe with certainty that you already have it and like magic it will appear.

Very, very well said DLD. Belief is soooooooo important. In Penis Enlargement, in everything. I'm loving the direction of this place. Everyone here should also check out the Alpha Blade Blog which is amazing too.

CrazyEight;309562 said:

Very, very well said DLD. Belief is soooooooo important. In Penis Enlargement, in everything. I'm loving the direction of this place. Everyone here should also check out the Alpha Blade Blog which is amazing too.

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Thank you. Alpha+Blade is becoming a very nice place and I think that everyone here can USE the information on Alpha+Blade to further the gains they are making in everything they do.

hey, we're the same size. i'm 5'10/11 and go from about 125-129 daily. you're being too negative. i agree that you should try hypnosis. i think weni freisen's program (available in the mental p.e. forum) has helped me some what.

Please, be honest with YOURSELF and ask this question. How long have you done one routine Religiously every day?
Again, you dont need to answer us, have you done 600 jelqs EVERY day for a month?

Dont give up! I had the same girth, and now i have 5,25 inches, an inch more! You never had sex, that could be the problem, because you dont know the feeling of it. When i first started to Jelq, i had a girlfriend and sex with her. All i did is that i transformed my sessions from plain workout to virtual sex. That helped a lot. When you jelq imagine that you are entering the vagina, and when you do ULI or compression squeez, or other form of girth exercise, just imagine thats somehow connected with sex.

i don't know if anyone else address your question but no you don't need a bigger post girth to gain...i can work out for hours and the post girth isn't that much but i have gained...and like others has said three months really isn't all that long...some members pe for a whole year just to get a 1/2inch...take some time out and start thinking a little differently...pe does work for some better than others...maybe you just are gonna have to put in more time...what is your current routine? i try to stick with a routine for a couple of months before i start changing? pick a couple of exercises and stick with those for a while...if you stay consistent for the next three months i'm sure you will see an improvement...good luck...and don't give up

Well its been a few days and i've really thought about things and i didnt even notice how obsesse I became with P.E and just needed to take a step back for a bit. But now my goals are once again in place. I mean i have a bigger flaccid, little better erection and even more erect length but i put aside all the good things for one bad thing and completly focused on that.

I really thought you MUST have a higher post girth after jelqing to have a chance to gain but apperetly that is not the case and really that was getting on my nerves but thank you for answering that.

My routine was Phase 1 for three months on average 5 days a week sometimes more. But like i said i've seen all postive things except girth.

So should i stay with phase 1 or go to phase 2?

Once again thank you DLD and everyone for the help.

stick with it

if you feel like you are no longer gaining from phase 1...i would say move on to phase 2...3 months is a good amount of time to spend doing one routine...and you can always go back to phase 1 in the future to jolt yourself into new gains...just like lifting weights sometimes you do one routine for a while then go back to it later and get better results...good luck...i'm glad to hear you have a different perspective now..

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"I’ve never had sex in my life and maybe never will cause of how I feel about my girth. "



Look you said it yourself: The way YOU FEEL about it , keep you from doing the nasty. Its not your girth or anything else. A matter of attitude.

Check out the french pornstar wich goes by the name of "WOODMAN".

Now this is a perfect example of a guy with a little dick. Tiny flaccid, and small to medium erection. He even makes jokes about it , while undressing or talking to the girls. DId I mention , that he is ugly , hairy and bald ?

But make no mistake , at no point, of any scene there is No question whatsoever whether or not HE is in charge HE is the BOSS, and dear god this guy is the most energetic fuck I've seen.Got to leave him that. Hes sexgame is pure alpha male behaviour and rough hardcore style....The girls go crazy, beyond what the yhave to act, so much you can tell from watching his stuff.


Where I'm going with this is :

If you fuck a womans "head and emotions" in a manly way , your dick will not matter at all , ever.

If you somehow admit or act up on it that your dick is your weakness, women will catch up on it and put you down, for it, by your OWN fault.

If you never had sex in the first place, why enlarge it , so its closer to the toilet while pissing??? Have sex with several girls. Learn to see wich girl is after your dick only. Wich genuinly like you for your charakter.
Become a master at fucking , seducing , talking to and choosing women.

Because in the end thats whats counts. Women who fall in love with objects like "big dick" "bank account" are and allways will be size whore and golddiggers, and a good woman will never leave you for a lack of dick centimeters but because of a lack of emotions that u make her feel.
Thats the truth. SO which type of guy are YOU and what type of women do you want to attract ?

And in the end ..no matter how much you gain..even if you become 2 inch bigger in lentgh and girth - you still will be smaller than many many others here and in the world...so why bother ? If even then it will be your charakter, your confidence , your sexgame that will put you apart from the others rather than the mechanical penetration ability of a larger dick....

Even a 8x6 guy comes across the same problems as you...I mean there a cow pussys , tiny pussys...psycho women... rare good women, and so on , many different types... just don't base you beliefs on the beliefs of the masses of "what is supposed to be good"

Make your own thoughts, make your own rules , make your own world around you where you are the king of everything, and enjoy living a happy live....sounds to me better than chasing ideals created by the mass appeal..wich are a sure way into depression and negative thinking...because ideals are unreachable for the normal mortal people like you and me.


Just ask yourself what would suit u better for the next year, what would produce more happyness ? Sitting there, watching ����, pulling and pushing on your dick and enforcing I'm too small I'm not good enough I don't compare...or having regular sex with a hot chic who likes you for Y O U wich pretty much takes your mind of all your problems and fears...

Infact you don't even have any fears, you are just afraid of being afraid when situation X (= possible sex ) arises. And to avoid this possible "bad feeling" you avoid situation X and everything around it all the time...

I say : Feel the fear and do it anyways, life always rewards you for taking risks and overcoming your fear with good feelings, stronger confidence and experience that is priceless..

~Peace and good luck in your organic and menthal developement.

dont quit man ive had more issues then you regarding penises. and im 6'4 and 220 and i have a skinny dick. I started off on 4.4 or 4.5 girth on midshaft and now ive gained a little bit, it took me forever to gain just a little bit, i gained almost a full inch in length in like less then two months but it took me like 6 months to gain 0.2 in girth, i havent pe'd much lately but when i get back into it im gonna go for the 5 inch mark in a realistic time zone of 1 year for 0.3 more inches. I know i can get there and u can too



on another note, try penis enlargement pills, they pump more blood down there.