Penis Size and Women Does it Matter; My Theory

To the age old question does penis size matter I feel I may have stumbled on to a partial answer to this question that seems to haunt all men.

As you may or may not know I had penis enlargement surgery. Before surgery I was about 6.5 erect (NBP) and not quite 6 inches girth.

Now according to most studies I was above average and I never had any complaints size wise.

Now after surgery I am almost 7 inches erect and over 7 inches girth and here is what I have found.

Before surgery all of my former girl friends I had dated told me I was crazy didn't need it and so on. My current gf at the time said NO WAY she was afraid it would ruin our great sex life.

After the surgery my GF actualy broke up with me because she felt I did it because of her and for many reasons so I slept around with quite a few of my ex girl friends and girls I met.

One ex said it felt better being bigger and said "it looks better too..." as it turned her on more. The length hurts her when I thrust hard, but she LOVED the girth. She has a shallow vagina but more loose.

Second ex said it hurts but she eventually loosens up, but that it's painful now til she stretches to accomodate it and before it wasn't this bad, but she says her orgasms are no better nor does it truly feel better nor does she have any more, but she too is turned on by looking at it and says I am now HUGE! She also said anal is agonizing pain, but did it for me, although we had never done it before and she wad only the 3rd woman I have ever done that with.

Third ex GF said girth took a while to get used to and was uncomfortable at first. She has never commented one way or another as to her opinions of the new me. She seems to not want to talk about the subject for whatever reason

Fourth a new gf was freaked out about my size when she saw it and it hurt her the whole time and while she had orgasms she said she could never totally relax while we had sex and was always afraid a hard thrust would pound into her even though I tried to be gentle and she said the girth was uncomfortable even as she tried to relax. She didn't know I had surgery I didn't tell her. She said it was too big.


Now this is where my theory comes in. Before, with the 3 ex gf's our sex life had been great, now that I am much bigger sex is still good, but it did take them awhile to adjust.

If they sleep with someone much smaller than me, the chances are they will still have good sex, but knowing they can take bigger and with all the comments about the visual appeal I propose that inside they will wish, to varying degrees of desire, that their new BF is as big as I am now.

I think size does NOT matter "UNLESS" a woman has experienced pleasureable sex with a larger man. They may still have good sex, but that they will miss the size.

If you are the biggest a woman has ever had, even at 5 X 5, I truly think she doesn't desire you to have a bigger penis and I truly beleive she is honest when she says she is happy with your size. However if you are NOT the biggest and the experience with the bigger penis was NOT painful then I think deep down inside she most likely will wish you were bigger.

One of the girls I mentioned actually told me she's afraid I spoiled/ruined her.

As a side note EVERY ex GF who has had the before and after me does NOT want me to get a second surgery. This is the same thing they said before the first surgery.

They all initially had difficulty with the girth, but with the exception of ONE of them, they all handle the bigger girth like they did my smaller girth.

My hunch is if I do have second enlargement that I will have the same results.

Bottom line to my theory is; size matters only if they had pleasureable sex with someone significantly larger (emphasis on significant or noticeably larger) and that their experience was not painful sex as every woman who I have spoken with who has had painful sex, because of the man's size, does NOT want to repeat that event.

Anyone care to comment or add to this I appreciate it.

So if you're the biggest relax, if not much of a difference relax, and even if a lot smaller and she is having multiple orgasms well relax as a bigger dick isn't going to cause her to have more of them.

If he was bigger and the sex was great and you aren't getting the job done then yes size is probably an issue, but you can do something about that.

I also think the fact I had such instant dramatic results lends credence to my theory.

In other words it was the same man looks wise, money, talents, body, character, personality, etc. It was the same ME, except my penis had grown by a bit over 1/2 an inch erect and over 1 inch in girth in a very short time and they could compare the new me with the old and I could assess their reactions..

While not scientific I do see merit in my opinion/theory.

I agree with what you're saying to a point. I think a girl that has found pleasure with a 6" girth will not find a 5" girth very exciting anymore. But I think if say she found one that was 5.75" she would still see it as "large" and not really miss the slightly larger size. I don't think one should obsess about being the very largest one, but rather get to a large size that most any woman would consider large and know that she's happy she's getting more than the average girl out there.

I know I've experienced this same phenomenon with girls' pussies. The first girl I had sex with had a very loose pussy. It felt great to me, as I had no comparison, until my next girlfriend who was extremely tight. Every girl after those two has been somewhere in between, so I use them as my basis of comparison. If a girl is on the looser end I miss the tight pussy I've had before. If a girl is fairly tight, but not the very tightest I've had, I still feel fortunate to have something better than most. It's too bad we can't really tell just by looking whether a pussy's gonna be tight or loose.

There are definitely limits to some women's threshold for penis size, as you've seen, Thickest. Some women could likely take 7+ inches of girth, while others may not be able to handle more than 6". That is why I plan on cutting myself off at 6", assuming I ever make it. I wouldn't want to have a girl not be able to phyically take me, or always have pain with it. I'm at that point already in length where I will bottom out with any girl. I suspect if you have another surgery, your pool of potential 'takers' will be getting lower and lower.

bigsack said:

I agree with what you're saying to a point. I think a girl that has found pleasure with a 6" girth will not find a 5" girth very exciting anymore. But I think if say she found one that was 5.75" she would still see it as "large" and not really miss the slightly larger size. I don't think one should obsess about being the very largest one, but rather get to a large size that most any woman would consider large and know that she's happy she's getting more than the average girl out there.

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No I agree that is why I said

"Bottom line to my theory is; size matters only if they had pleasureable sex with someone

significantly larger (emphasis on significant or noticeably larger)

and that their experience was not painful sex as every woman who I have spoken with who has had painful sex, because of the man's size, does NOT want to repeat that event."

I agree with you 100%. I don't think a 1/4 inch difference will even be noticeable. Maybe not even 1/2 an inch as I don't know how tactilely sensitive a woman's vagina is.

I think it probably needs to be sgnificant for them to really notice and I think as it gets to their maximum ability to accomodate the amount of difference they can feel gets smaller and smaller.

For instance from 5 to 5.5 not as noticeable as 7 to 7.5 as each little bit is pushing them to their max comfort level. Does that make sense?


I also don't think women consciously think any thing about happy they are getting more than average or whatever.

Most likely happy not small or so damn big it hurts. LOL

Sorry guys I have to totally disagree....I have noticed a pattern in alot of my ex's - many of them come back for sex. And I know the most ALL of them have had much larger partners than me - so I have to disagree - penis size is such a guy issue (to a point - a small penis is an issue, but I am like 7.25 EL x 5.25-5.5" eg) - in the end I am told a lousy lover with a big cock is better than a lousy lover w/a small cock for sure....but a good lover goes much further than just how big is penis is...

THICKEST ONE said:

significantly larger (emphasis on significant or noticeably larger)

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Ah, missed that one. My mistake!

I also disagree, its allot to do with how the penis is used rather than womans past experiences with penis size.
You can have the biggest dick in the world and know nothing about sex and how to use it which makes it useless, however penis size does IMHO and its proven plays a role to some degree but I myself reckon from experience that its the better you are in bed which gets the woman/girls more excited.
My old flame [serious girlfreind] had men allot longer than me and she could measure because she was a cop and knew the batton sizes ect ect and this guy was massive in length, although I was bigger in girth she said I was superb in bed and I was her best lover.
Back to the theory, if someone had sex with a guy useing 7 inches of girth and it was fantastic than it doesnt mean that she will not enjoy sex with someone whos 5.8 inches....thats just stupid, because many independant variables will play a factor on the night/day/afternoon which make that shag what it is and allot of it is MOTION OF THE OCEAN and MOOD.
Get her in the MOOD and have the MOTION and you have her in your hands like putty, been their fucking black girls in my teens with a 6.6 inch long dick sporting 5.8 inches girth and they LOVED it all.

I never said they wouldn't enjoy sex witha smaller guy. Just said they might prefer the larger size and again your experience, or lack of it, is moot as you haven't made yourself that much bigger in such a short time and then given women the chance to comment and compare.

You commented on mood and so on, which is kind of sili, but again I actually performed a real world experiment where the SAME man in every way increased his penis size dramatically and then gave the women a chance to voice their opinion.

Sure an orgasm is an orgasm, but the majority of women I have had sex with since my surgery, that I also had sex with before, prefer the post-op penis.

That's a fact

Interesting experiment!I think that most women these days have a very different outlook on life!They tend to live life to the full, which isn't a bad thing in most ways!However when the topic of sex and penis size comes up, I think that most if not all of them want to experience all aspects of sex, whether it be a 1 off eating pussy, getting shagged up the ass, having a threesome, and experiencing that massive cock, etc., etc.....

Only by exploring sex, will they discover themselves, and what truly turns them on! So getting the big one is something they all want to have at least once!By having this experience they can determine if all the stories they have heard or read are infact true, and also it's sort of a bragging rite to them, kinda like catching a big fish.

Some will get hooked on the big dick, and know that they simply have to have a big dick to really have that fantastic orgasm, others will know from the experience that it was a little to uncomfortable or painful, and realize that for them perhaps a smaller man will be just fine, but at least they will have this experience to compare with their data base of past and future lovers.

All in all it's about living the dream, as when your old and withered, and your days of youth are gone, you reflect on your life and wish that you had of tried this or that, and no one wants to go through that, man or woman!Funny thing is most of these women settle down with the average size guy, as in most cases the men that have the big dick, know they have the big dick, and tend to play the field, as they know they have something that most women want to have at least once.

In other words they would most likely be unfaithful in a relationship or marriage, and the women know this and stay clear of them!I'm not saying that all are like this, but there are many that are!I know I paint a grim picture of bad morels and sluttiness, but that's the way society is today, and it's getting worse.

The best scenario is for an average guy that already has great morels and respect for women, and is also a fantastic lover!He should then start Penis Enlargementing and create a massive tool!Once he has created a massive tool, along with being a good person and great lover etc., he can't loose, as long as he don't abuse the power of the bigger unit and become a fucking machine using and abusing women!BUT!!!!!!! Even if you manage to create a massive tool, and you meet the woman of your dreams, it is not to say that she may prefer a smaller cock, as her past experience with a big one was unpleasent!Isn't life a great riddle???

Red> I think Thickest's argument is something that is based on the only variable being penis size. I agree with you that how you use your penis is much more important that the size. However, this site is mainly geared to enlarging the penis, not using it better. The arguments stated were holding all other factors of your technique constant and only the penis size changing. Like he said, he's basing this of his experience with girls he's already had sex with, so the only thing changing is his penis size.

bigsack said:

Red> I think Thickest's argument is something that is based on the only variable being penis size. I agree with you that how you use your penis is much more important that the size. However, this site is mainly geared to enlarging the penis, not using it better. The arguments stated were holding all other factors of your technique constant and only the penis size changing. Like he said, he's basing this of his experience with girls he's already had sex with, so the only thing changing is his penis size.

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Exactly bigsack. Technique, mood, wind direction, sun spot activity are all moot. LOL

It's kind of like having two clones one with an above average penis and one with a much bigger penis, letting them have sex with both, and asking them which one they prefer.

Few will pick the smaller penis all things being equal.

Plus my change wasn't gradual. Some of these women i had dated for several months then after the surgery we hooked back up.

They didn't see a gradual change but a sudden change.

I agree, all other variables equal many women would like bigger versus smaller....but I dont think it ranks high on most womens values...I mean its like the same woman with a tight pussy versus a tighter pussy...sure its better, but its not one of the highest things most of us value in a partner.

Girthius said:

Interesting experiment!I think that most women these days have a very different outlook on life!They tend to live life to the full, which isn't a bad thing in most ways!However when the topic of sex and penis size comes up, I think that most if not all of them want to experience all aspects of sex, whether it be a 1 off eating pussy, getting shagged up the ass, having a threesome, and experiencing that massive cock, etc., etc.....

Only by exploring sex, will they discover themselves, and what truly turns them on! So getting the big one is something they all want to have at least once!By having this experience they can determine if all the stories they have heard or read are infact true, and also it's sort of a bragging rite to them, kinda like catching a big fish.

Some will get hooked on the big dick, and know that they simply have to have a big dick to really have that fantastic orgasm, others will know from the experience that it was a little to uncomfortable or painful, and realize that for them perhaps a smaller man will be just fine, but at least they will have this experience to compare with their data base of past and future lovers.

All in all it's about living the dream, as when your old and withered, and your days of youth are gone, you reflect on your life and wish that you had of tried this or that, and no one wants to go through that, man or woman!Funny thing is most of these women settle down with the average size guy, as in most cases the men that have the big dick, know they have the big dick, and tend to play the field, as they know they have something that most women want to have at least once.

In other words they would most likely be unfaithful in a relationship or marriage, and the women know this and stay clear of them!I'm not saying that all are like this, but there are many that are!I know I paint a grim picture of bad morels and sluttiness, but that's the way society is today, and it's getting worse.

The best scenario is for an average guy that already has great morels and respect for women, and is also a fantastic lover!He should then start Penis Enlargementing and create a massive tool!Once he has created a massive tool, along with being a good person and great lover etc., he can't loose, as long as he don't abuse the power of the bigger unit and become a fucking machine using and abusing women!BUT!!!!!!! Even if you manage to create a massive tool, and you meet the woman of your dreams, it is not to say that she may prefer a smaller cock, as her past experience with a big one was unpleasent!Isn't life a great riddle???

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i think your right on the money

THICKEST ONE said:

I never said they wouldn't enjoy sex witha smaller guy. Just said they might prefer the larger size and again your experience, or lack of it, is moot as you haven't made yourself that much bigger in such a short time and then given women the chance to comment and compare.

You commented on mood and so on, which is kind of sili, but again I actually performed a real world experiment where the SAME man in every way increased his penis size dramatically and then gave the women a chance to voice their opinion.

Sure an orgasm is an orgasm, but the majority of women I have had sex with since my surgery, that I also had sex with before, prefer the post-op penis.

That's a fact

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Hey Pal,

Have you ever thought that maybe the reason the women you have had sex with since the operation are enjoying it more is because they are responding to YOU, and how you feel about yourself since the surgery, rather than the size of your penis. So much of a good sexual relationship is in the HEAD.

I have a very large penis, but I can pleasure my woman multiple times with my tongue. She doesn't give a shit how large I am. I'm doing Penis Enlargement for me.

If you are less sensitive about your size and more focused on pleasing them, AND YOURSELF, of course, large or small, they are going to enjoy it more.

goinfor11x7 said:

Hey Pal,

Have you ever thought that maybe the reason the women you have had sex with since the operation are enjoying it more is because they are responding to YOU, and how you feel about yourself since the surgery, rather than the size of your penis. So much of a good sexual relationship is in the HEAD.

I have a very large penis, but I can pleasure my woman multiple times with my tongue. She doesn't give a shit how large I am. I'm doing Penis Enlargement for me.

If you are less sensitive about your size and more focused on pleasing them, AND YOURSELF, of course, large or small, they are going to enjoy it more.

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I agree with this

goinfor11x7 said:

Hey Pal,

Have you ever thought that maybe the reason the women you have had sex with since the operation are enjoying it more is because they are responding to YOU, and how you feel about yourself since the surgery, rather than the size of your penis. So much of a good sexual relationship is in the HEAD.

I have a very large penis, but I can pleasure my woman multiple times with my tongue. She doesn't give a shit how large I am. I'm doing Penis Enlargement for me.

If you are less sensitive about your size and more focused on pleasing them, AND YOURSELF, of course, large or small, they are going to enjoy it more.

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Hey Pal, Seems I hit a sore spot. To answer your questions. No these women are mature adults and answered my questions objectively. I never had an issue with who I am before nor after.

Those who know me personally can attest to that.

Again reread my comments. It's the SAME me in every way. I asked them from a totally physical viewpoint.
These aren't 20 year old women, but mature women in their early 30's who have had numerous sexual partners.

As to the oral sex comments, any man can do that, but women don't want to just recieve oral sex and I find it hilarious that you feel the need to comment that you have a large lenis and then state your girlfriend doesn't care. Yeah I believe that.

Some here will get it.

I don't quite get it.

Before the enlargement all your partners said you were thick enough.

Then you added some size.

Then you lost your GF partially because she thought you did it for her.

Of the four exes you nailed after that the reactions to your new size was:
1: Length hurts. Girth great.
2: Painful. No better orgasms. Anal is agonizing pain.
3: Uncomfortable, dont want to talk about it.
4: Hurt the whole time, girth is uncomfortable, "too big".

Of the 9 things said by the four different lovers only one is positive. And by that you conclude that they will not find sex with a man who is smaller than you pleasurable.

As much as I like the thought of being the one thought of by all my exes as the one with the huge cock who was the best fuck they ever had, I'm sorry to say that I do not see the merit in your theory. At least it does not seem to be backed up by the comments by the exes.

aishoal said:

I don't quite get it.

Before the enlargement all your partners said you were thick enough.

Then you added some size.

Then you lost your GF partially because she thought you did it for her.

Of the four exes you nailed after that the reactions to your new size was:
1: Length hurts. Girth great.
2: Painful. No better orgasms. Anal is agonizing pain.
3: Uncomfortable, dont want to talk about it.
4: Hurt the whole time, girth is uncomfortable, "too big".

Of the 9 things said by the four different lovers only one is positive. And by that you conclude that they will not find sex with a man who is smaller than you pleasurable.

As much as I like the thought of being the one thought of by all my exes as the one with the huge cock who was the best fuck they ever had, I'm sorry to say that I do not see the merit in your theory. At least it does not seem to be backed up by the comments by the exes.

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Kudo's for the great analysis.....right on the money.

At 7 x 7 I personally don't think you need additional surgery. There is definitely a male instinct that makes us desire a huge and powerful unit, but lets keep in mind the end user; the woman. I just don't think the old "If a little's good, more is better" applies in this case. Remember, I can basically guarantee that at 7" girth, you'll be the thickest that any future girl will have experienced. I just think you might want to give it another year or two before signing up for another round of surgery. 7 x 7 is an excellent size. Maybe try it out on another 10 and decide from there.

THICKEST ONE said:

Hey Pal, Seems I hit a sore spot. To answer your questions. No these women are mature adults and answered my questions objectively. I never had an issue with who I am before nor after.

Those who know me personally can attest to that.

Again reread my comments. It's the SAME me in every way. I asked them from a totally physical viewpoint.
These aren't 20 year old women, but mature women in their early 30's who have had numerous sexual partners.

As to the oral sex comments, any man can do that, but women don't want to just recieve oral sex and I find it hilarious that you feel the need to comment that you have a large lenis and then state your girlfriend doesn't care. Yeah I believe that.

Some here will get it.

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Thickest,


Hope I didn't offend you. I haven't met a woman yet who could respond to such a question from a totally physical viewpoint. I don't think they're wired that way.

In other words they would most likely be unfaithful in a relationship or marriage, and the women know this and stay clear of them!I'm not saying that all are like this, but there are many that are!I know I paint a grim picture of bad morels and sluttiness, but that's the way society is today, and it's getting worse.

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There's a legitimate concern in there perhaps for the woman, but easily another factor is -- there are a lot of women who can't deal with not having most of the power. A guy who knows he can go get anyone he wants anytime he wants isn't necessarily a slut (unless actually doing it) but he does walk around knowing he has -options-.

That is .... if his girl gets a little too f.o.s., he'll be way more likely to drop her like a hot rock than a weak and needy guy would.

The weak and needy guy figures he's really lucky to not be alone in the first place, panics at the thought of not having that particular gal in his life (cos he thinks otherwise he might well have to spend his entire life alone) and gives away pretty much all of his personal power to the woman, kissing her butt, taking nonsense, in short ... failing every social status test that she gives him .... until finally she has no respect for him whatsoever and if he's lucky she'll cheat on him and leave (instead of dominating him that way forever.)

IMO, a woman that shys away from a man with a massive member (for anything other than physical discomfort reasons) probably has some emotional immaturity and control issues where you wouldn't want to be with her in the first place.

I agree, all other variables equal many women would like bigger versus smaller....but I dont think it ranks high on most womens values...I mean its like the same woman with a tight pussy versus a tighter pussy...sure its better, but its not one of the highest things most of us value in a partner.

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A tight pussy is on the inside. (duh! but bear with me) .... It's an amazing thing, yee haw !!!! , but it's not the same sort of experience ... the guy can't hold its weight in both hands with extra left over, visualize it personally (since it's right there in the open), fantasize about pretty trippy things with it and etc the way a woman can (or more accurately -- does) for big wood.

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