Am I really longer than I think?

what is an example of a 'right' food? you mean like granola for breakfast?

Yep, as much progress as I've made, still looking for the right foods myself. My big problem is whenever I eat "healthy" the foods turn to stone and it's hard to eliminate. So I find I have to add fats back into my diet. Staying active and eating moderately, helps me maintain, in general. Also I tend to retain water like mad.

I only wish the rest of my body were as in shape and chiseled as my penis, lol.

what about no dinner/pm meal? also, do carbonated drinks(diet soda) make you retain water? also, is there a 'better' order for exercise( cardio before strength or strength before cardio) to maximize fat burning?

I will tell you some of the food I would consider "good" amd are in my diet but there plenty of more you can find.

Tuna,skim milk,(You need colors in your diet green,red,etc.) all veggies, all friut(not too much though, friuts have hidden sugars),protien shake, olive oil/flax oil(cook your food in it and I put a teaspoon of it in my shakes), chicken breast, brown rice, sweet potato,egg beater(taste like shit but good source of protien, they taste like scrambled eggs but worse),cheerios,etc.

That's what I eat, again since I have no clue of your health history I'm not saying eat those exact foods but I hope that helps you.

stretcharmstrng;377136 said:

what is an example of a 'right' food? you mean like granola for breakfast?

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Nothing Arnie abolished in any way, no sugars, no fast food, no grilled fats/hardened fats,no high GI carbs, no candy, no alcohol, no antibiotics, limited fats, further limited carbs, fats and carbs separated

do your cardio after. You need to be fresh to put all you intensity towards lifting.

thanks for the advice guys. girth hammer, what are your portion sizes like? how many meals do you eat a day? do you drink? smoke?

btw, im a pretty healthy guy, no drinking, drugs or smoking, exercise ~4 times a week for ~1hour each time. i feel like my metabolism has never really let me eat whatever/whenever, and its odd because i weighed about 30lbs less when i drank and partied. i was also a few years younger so i dunno?

so you think strength training is more conducive to weight loss?

stretch,"no dinner or pm meals" Remember are bodies are survival machines. Were created if we got stuck on a island or something like that we would survive. So are bodies are designed to add bodyfat cause it takes the longest to break down. And since we are made to survive are body has no problem breaking down something it doesn't need to survive. "protien" are muscle tissue to use for fuel. When you give your body no food it starts break that muscle down to keep going. now its no anything drastic but not eating is not good anyway you look at it. get in some food every few hours until you go to sleep.

portion size? to be honest I eat a lot of food. it just the chooses. I also have a diet geared to trianing days and off days. I'm drug free. I will let you know less than 3 percent of the entire world have a slow metabolism so odds are your not in that group.

wieght lifting and cardio work as one. But you need to bust your ass lifting. And I say bust your ass I mean your effort not trianing forever like some people do. And you can't push yourself as hard after cardio.

forgot to answer this. I eat close to 6 times each day.

Girth Hammer;377144 said:

do your cardio after. You need to be fresh to put all you intensity towards lifting.

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He only can do a bit there, else he would need to stop fat burn via insuline or consume tons of bcaas... if not muscle gets burned and the shape will be even worse. separated cardio with supplemental protection is a fine thing. He still needs to maintain some muscle, because this is about bodyfat percentage and burned muscle would mean and equal amount of water lost what would heavily higher the bodyfat percentage.

He is a natural athlet and no WBNF igf-1 overuser or IFBB enantatebull.

pre during and workout nutrition is VERY important. I use to overlook this before but now my team makes shore this is in check.

Pre: Sip gatorade/protien shake
During: Sip gatorade/protien shake
Post: Drink gatorade/protien shake

* my pre and during shake are the same shake. its about 20oz. shake and I sip that and sip water from when I leave my house to head to the gym and until I finish my workout.

When I get home have a post workoutmeal.

thanks for the input guys. i should ad along with newbie, i am looking to drop 30-40lbs., not get super ripped or anything. Shit, even when i WAS 40lbs. lighter i wasn't bruce lee or anything, there was still a little flab there. maybe if i was more lean the weight would stay off easier?

also, i dont believe pm eating is necessary, unless you spend your night hours working or doing something other than sedentary(reading, tv, etc.) before you sleep. what about large meal in the day time (between 3-7pm) and that's it? or is it better to eat more smaller-sized meals tthroughout the day?

oh and newbie, you should change your name. what about cactus cock? lol

The faster you wanna lose it the more expensive and more demanding it gets.

During a diet every single meal is important to keep the metabolism consuming energy. The most effective ways of dieting reduce your cognitive abilities heavily.

If you want to lose it quickly I recommend starting with a 1 week crash diet. You will need to take that week off. Supporting that first week with ECY might make sense, but I am not sure - I rather don't take a position about that. After that week you continue without medics, but with a proper lifestyle and supplemenation. The most difficult part will be finding out how you react to what. That part will be a big problem in every case of dieting and it has a key role.

Some special tips that I can give about nutrition in that case:
-one meal with lean cattle meat the day
-tuna steak is getting your best friend
-I consider oats as best carb source
-there should be a daily intake of omega 3 fish oil capsules (very important and always extremely useful)
-multivitamine and magnesium are getting extremely helpful
-you may do the following cycle to keep your receptors free: 1 week coffeine before workouts, 1 week taurina before workouts, 1 week guarana before workouts, repeat

newbie and GH are both giving some good advice bro.

my input is this:

diet should be lean protein, healthy fats, dark green carbs.

lean proteins: chicken breast,egg whites, lean beaf (95% or better), tuna, talapia.

veggies: green beans, spinach, broccoli, asparagus.

healthy fats: nuts, olive oil, natural peanut butter.

try to eat 6 times a day

your first meal you can have oats for carbs.
you can also have some brown rice or quinoa for carbs for a preworkout meal about 1.5 hours before weightlifting.
then have the Pre,Intra,PWO like GH said.

the rest of your meals should be lean protein, dark green veggies, and some nuts or olive oil for healthy fats.

take fish oil pills about 10g a day.

if your real serious stay away from dairy, you can cut with dairy but I find it a little slower.


your first two weeks should be eating 6 times with above and seeing what your weight does. if it goes up then drop cals about 300cals. if you lose then up cals 300cals. you got to dial it in. I would do all this before adding in cardio. Once you find your maintenance, where you arenot losing and eating clean food, eat at that level and add cardio, LISS, low intensity steady state. basically cruising for 45minutes, not letting your beats get to high. do this firs thing AM on empty stomach. I would add in some BCAA's prior to cardio.
you will begin to lose fat. when it stops, and it will, simply add in extra cardio or lower cals by 300.

Do this and you will be in good shape bro.

thanks for the input guys. what are bcaa's?

branched chain amino acids..

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@oneday: carbs in the morning during dieting are only meant for cognitive capacities unless you do a weight resistance workout in the morning

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@oneday: carbs in the morning during dieting are only meant for cognitive capacities unless you do a weight resistance workout in the morning

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I like a 1/2 cop of oats in the AM. of course I lift in the morning as well so I never say a negative impact on it. So your saying if one lifts in the PM you wouldn't hit the carbs in the morning, keep them low until preworkout meal..