A lifestyle Change - Advice needed

rakas;519620 said:

Okay so from my currently fat state i want this body, preferably by say the end of 2013 (along with my massive shlong)..

How do i get this?

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Drugs

rakas;480945 said:

Essentially i am tackling my current problem at its source.

I am pretty much addicted to pizzas (BBQ, chicken tikka ect), burgers and kebabs which has put me over the 300lb line.


also the fact that the human body is not made to eat meat

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You realize that everything you listed except kebabs is about 10-15% meat right?

The human body is not designed to eat meat when the meat itself has been fed things meat it was not designed to eat.

If you think you are gaining weight or fat because you are eating too much meat, go buy 10 lbs. of grass-fed beef and make that the only food you eat for 3 days. See how long it takes you to finish it, my guess will be longer than you think.

AF3;528128 said:

You realize that everything you listed except kebabs is about 10-15% meat right?

The human body is not designed to eat meat when the meat itself has been fed things meat it was not designed to eat.

If you think you are gaining weight or fat because you are eating too much meat, go buy 10 lbs. of grass-fed beef and make that the only food you eat for 3 days. See how long it takes you to finish it, my guess will be longer than you think.

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That post was a good while ago, since April i've lost 23lb just from cutting out takeaways (though i still eat meat from time to time).

I honestly would'nt know where to buy such meat.

i second the brown rice thing. while its more expensive then brown and body composition wise it will be no different, it is more micronutrient dense and will fill you up quicker. sainsburys is a good place to get it, i think they do two bags for like £5 (dont get quick/easy cook though as it tastes rough). it may seem expensive but is a cheaper and healthier carb source than chips. also regarding yoghurt being expensive, if you go to lidl (i think?) you can get 1kg of 100% natural live yoghurt for like £1, which is easy to add to granola/ oats and is good for you.
regarding your shopping list, if moneys an issue drop the berries and get leafy greens instead. fresh berries although good for you, are unbelievably expensive for how much you get.
a bag of spinach is pretty cheap, four serving will cost about a pound. broccoli is also cheap and very good for you. if you dont like eating veggies, just cook them and eat them quickly at the begging of your meal to get them out of the way. you can also get frozen mixed veg to use from time to time for convenience.
about the meat thing, if you bought plain raw meat and made your own sauces/ marinades, this may overcome the craving for shit food. you'd be surprised how easy a nice sauce is to make for a steak or chicken with herbs, that will be alot cheaper than a store bought sauce. this may allow you to actually enjoy the meat, and 'crave' the meat instead of craving what the meat is in (as in takeaways). but if its going well with fish then stick with that.
as for your aspirations to look like that guy, you would need a muscular base, albeit you wouldnt need to build alot of muscle as hes not big. if you dont have much muscle atm, you will need to hit weights and build up a base (which may be difficult on a calorie deficit). the definition will come with losing more fat. i say carry on with your weight loss until you reach around 10% bodyfat or lower (can see visible abs), while also going to the gym and start weightlifting. then, if needs be, bulk with a small surplus. your newbie gains in the first 3-6 months should be enough to build the muscle required for that physique if you dont already have enough muscle

Jdcsd;528119 said:

Drop the corn, bread and cereal and get brown rice. That's a very cheap carb

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I can replace the corn with another vegetable (if i can find one of the Carnifirus i actually like).

I'm limiting myself to just one loaf of wholemeal per week.

Not a chance, i love cereal for breakfast.

Rice is horribly bland.

rakas;528448 said:

I can replace the corn with another vegetable (if i can find one of the Carnifirus i actually like).

I'm limiting myself to just one loaf of wholemeal per week.

Not a chance, i love cereal for breakfast.

Rice is horribly bland.

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I love pizza and beer but you won't lose weight with them. 99% of cereal is garbage. I guess if
Your overweight at least they are mostly low calorie. But mostly processed crap. Only good complex carbs to eat are brown rice, oatmeal and yams. You can boil the rice in low sodium chicken stock if you want it to taste better

Not sure if you knew this but corn is actually a grain, which has been carefully selected by farmers in order to speed up its evolution and get it to a state that has multiple culinary uses. Unfortunately, humans just have not evolved as fast as corn has, making it nearly indigestible. One only needs to look in the toilet the day after eating corn to confirm this. So Jdcsd was correct in advising cutting out corn. This also applies to whole grains for the same reason. Do not believe the hype about whole grains. Rice is a great substitute for whole grains. They make breads and cereals, and of course rice itself. And it does not matter what type of rice you choose, they are all fine.

Also, are you tracking your calories or macro nutrients, and how are you keeping track? Do you have a food scale?

2 Burger King Cheeseburgers and some delicious Sangria...this is pretty much the diet

Avoid ANYTHING genetically modified, just like the plague that it is.
www.ewg.org
www.cornucopia.org
www.mercola.com

rakas;528148 said:

That post was a good while ago, since April i've lost 23lb just from cutting out takeaways (though i still eat meat from time to time).

I honestly would'nt know where to buy such meat.

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The more overweight you are the easier it is to lose weight. As you keep dropping pounds (or stones) . you will need to tighten up the diet. Especially if your goal is sub 10% body fat. On the other hand if your goal is 20% fat then you can stick with the corn pops and just keep your calories in check

Hmm. Where's the protein? Of course YOU really don't need protein powder, It's not recommended. I still kept up with my lifts and never shrunk. It's all a mind-game. I noticed when I started eating alot more carbs than low-carbing, I've lost more weight and actually kept up my energy levels while having a calorie deficit. Plus, I still eat what I want. Gotta' find out what works for you, but protein is necessary.

keepingitbig;528571 said:

Hmm. Where's the protein? Of course YOU really don't need protein powder, It's not recommended. I still kept up with my lifts and never shrunk. It's all a mind-game. I noticed when I started eating alot more carbs than low-carbing, I've lost more weight and actually kept up my energy levels while having a calorie deficit. Plus, I still eat what I want. Gotta' find out what works for you, but protein is necessary.

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My initial priority is simply to carry on dropping weight and so i'm not worrying about protein amounts although fish has a decent amount of protein.

Don't forget; your body is just one huge collection of an amazing array of proteins.
Even your bones consist mostly of a protein matrix.

Are you exercising? It is very important to exercise while dropping weight to ensure that the body recognizes that it needs to preserve muscle and burn fat. Without it, muscle mass and, and even bone density could be lost. That is also why it is important to count your macrnutrients rather than just calories. By counting your macronutrients, fats/carbs/proteins, you can customize your diet, eliminate any uncertainty, zero in on exactly what works for your body, and maximizing your results by ensuring the weight you are losing is just fat and not muscle.

Okay so i'm going to look around ans see what green veg i actually like (i've never tried many) but in the meantime i've made a few small changes..

Cod In Butter Sauce
Fish (i'm thinking a river cobler)
Tuna in Sunflower Oil
Carrots
Mushroom
Onion
Potato
Cucumber
Cereal
Milk
Wholemeal Bread
Banana
Pear
Melon
Strawberry
Blueberries

MAXAMEYES;528583 said:

Don't forget; your body is just one huge collection of an amazing array of proteins.
Even your bones consist mostly of a protein matrix.

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This is why the fad diets scare me, I am old school with the diet.....fuck, I still look at the food pyramid as my guide

And science still gets shit wrong. I remember Covert Bailey and his, "Fat burns in a carbohydrate flame!"
So I started in with the brown rice, sweet potatoes, oatmeal, yada-yada-yada cut way down on fats and proteins and got fat!

I tried real hard for that stupid 80-10-10.

Now I go about 40-30-30 and I'm doin' just fine.

rakas;528877 said:

Okay so i'm going to look around ans see what green veg i actually like (i've never tried many) but in the meantime i've made a few small changes..

Cod In Butter Sauce
Fish (i'm thinking a river cobler)
Tuna in Sunflower Oil
Carrots
Mushroom
Onion
Potato
Cucumber
Cereal
Milk
Wholemeal Bread
Banana
Pear
Melon
Strawberry
Blueberries

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Try broccoli, asparagus, green beans and spinach for veg. Cucumbers are just edible water in the shape of a cock.

Jdcsd;529140 said:

Try broccoli, asparagus, green beans and spinach for veg. Cucumbers are just edible water in the shape of a cock.

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Don't like Broccoli but will try the others.

I like green beans the best. The skinny "French" kind and not canned, fresh. A spinach salad is good with some evoo and vinegar