im getting really ticked off frm this guy frm not relpying to my emails bcus i cannot view the penisbible any more and i dint pay 129 dollars to only see the dam thing once, il be posting the supplements shortly.
 
though i can remember the supplements needed im not gonna lead to chance, bcus i wrote it down somewhere just incase summit like this would happen b back shortly
 
right here it goes the supplements need to create the growth are

choline-choline bitartrate or phosphatidyle choline
HGH spray
tyrosine - dopamine
l-argnine
5-HTP-serotonin
water-3-litres
evening primose-PGE-1 precurser

ok il startt with choline, the choline is a neurotransmitter, which can greatly improve erections meaning more blood can enter the penis and so more DHT can enter there and help the liver produce the required enzymes and done so that the body can make more DHt by 5-alpha reductase, i often take choline bitartrate.

HGH as you all know is need for growing things and aswelll is need by the penis, thepenisbible said you should use or it is better to use a spray because they can be absorbed better into the body.

tyrosine an amino acid is needed to manufacture dopamine which in turn makes more testosterone in the testes, therefore more DHT is manufactured aswell.- im my opinion waste of time unless you dont have a high protein diet.

L-arginine- used to produce nitric oxide to help dilate the vessels or relax them and used to expand the chambers of the penis - inmy opinion waste of time unless you dont have a high protein diet,

5-HTP serotonin precursor- quite important used to prevent premature ejaculation, and helps prevent dopamine getting converted to adrenaline which will lead to ejaculate faster and the dopamine needed to help make testosterone may be less efficient, so quite important, and maybe just the answer to cure Penis Enlargement.

water is needed to thicken the blood like in puberty when you made more red blood cells, this is useful in transporting all the nutrients around the body and powering your erections, i know 3 litres maybe a bit too much but it all depends on what you do but me personally i go to the gym a lot so i drink around that much per day.

evening primose- PGE-1 precursor, this is needed to grow the skin of the penis so the extra skin can accomodate the exrta size of the penis, aswell can help make the spongy tissues of the penis more elastic and stretchy so it can expand a lot better. BUT very important point when you reach your size of penis size, and you want to stop growth, stop taking the evening primose. personally me bcus im havnt hardly got any foreskin this is quite important.

last bot not least he said you have to massage, i rememer him saying "if you have just 10 minutes a day time to yourself, would do a world of good for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words] and testosterone production" basically its just like penis ballooning bcus he said massage the groins , balls, base especially, shaft and then upper shaft, and the take yourself to point of no return ,3-5 times, will create DHT receptors after that you are free to ejaculate, but he said the more you do it, as in do it to point of no return more, than 3-5 times , the more the penis will grow. But personally i do this up to 10 times and then ejaculate.

But warning he said the more you ejaculate the less serotonin you have and as you all know serotonin is important to us, if you are like young like 18-24 then you can ejaculate like 4-5 times a week but please dont overdo it bcus you will really stress the body and penis growth is less likely to happen ever, if youre above 30 you can only ejaculate once and above 45 dont ejaculate at all bcus your testicular function is not as great as the younger people.

from that aswell he said that choline will help staighten up curved penises apart from thats about it
 
choline bitartrate and phostphatidyl choline are only used because they are what actually used by the body for choline for the penis and brain and can be utilised properly

results depend from person to person, i genuinely think you need a lot more time than 10 min for massaging time, it all goes like this biochemical enter penis more time spent in there more reeaction with penis receptors more signal for cell growth and then more penis growth but what gets me and dont understand is that everytime we have an erection do we create receptors or just maintaining them.

personal tip frm me its all about shifting your body for growth like puberty so i suggest having a really good diet can help which is high in protein which is fundemental for growth, and immiediately cut bad habbits out like smoking, drinking which can harm the organs and slow down your progress

the supplements you can either get from the net or from a normal herbal shop but for the HGH spray may be needed to look over the net.

Supplementation on choline can be done after every meal and dosages for choline are any where from 550mg-3500mg any higher than 3500mg can be harmful as said.

aswell with all the DHT you need to protect your prostate and scalp, so take things like isoflavones, like nuts, dark, fruit as such to protect, from all this info i think you should be all set
 
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Thanks for that really interesting stuff, it all seems to be a good theory/method from what i have reseached, although i would take a supplement of amino acid lycine as well as this combined with larginine can boost hgh up %600 or so iv been told dont quote me on that. Iv also read that the "BIBLE" says to use hydrogeon peroxide is this correct?
 
after i posted this up, ive lately been exchanging emails with DR.lin and he said each time you ejaculate with semen wipe it all over the penis like a cream bcus it contains shit loads of angrodens, hormones, vitamines, minerals, IGFs, growth hormones and stuf let the penis absorb the stuf for a little while
 
Hi BP123,

Thanks for posting this very interesting information. At least on paper it looks like a treatment that makes sense.

I am planning to purchase all the ingredients and start on the program as soon as next week.

Will keep you all informed about the progress.

Cheers.

Shorty
 
yes your correct about thr h2o2, this is in the potency report not the "PB", Iv received a short brief of the "PB" of a friend (basically some notes jotted down barely half a page) now and have all the supplements in place except for the hgh spray, im going to be using injectable hgh instead and i will be taking 10 iu's per day along with a very healthy diet and my normal weight trainning routine, also as well as balloning as many times a day as poss i might incorporate some stretching exercsies as well, what do u think?

current stats. 8x6 with good solid erection. 05 aug 09.
 
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that seems really good, especially if youre injecting the HGH, youll get a better effect. but be carefull with all those needles n stuf, and your current stats are awesome
 
This is extremely interesting. Thanks for posting.

My question is: Say you take the supps as required and grow an inch. Are you supposed to stay on the supps to 'keep' the gains or can they be cemented?
 
no you dont have to keep on taking the supps to cement it but it will greatly improve your performance in bed to keep it cemented 100% i would only take choline and evening primose and thats it
 
it usually comes in capsule form so doesnt taste of anything, iv just bought 1000capsules of high strength evening primrose oil for less than £10 very affordable, i believe its best to get the high strength stuff as its higher in gla fatty acids which i think is the active ingredient in the oil its self, although the normal strength stuff should still be ok.
 
oh yeah i did some thinkin about the how all this works and it is connected (tyrosine) dopamine is needed to activate the testes to activate testoerone levels so you can get a erection from this when elevated test levels arise we have an erection as a sign for sexual intercourse thats why you get excited for sex and horny at the same time, from this it activates the liver to apply heavily concenrated enzymes that down to thepenis so it can be converted to DHT, this is the most important process, this where serotonin the(5-HTP) comes in, when you masterbate you achive orgasm faster and DHT is being converted and dopamine is still sending signals to the testes to produce testosterone, now when your on that edge of ejaculation, dopamine is getting converted to nor-adrenaline, or adrenaline sending signals to brain that it needs to orgasm, from this it does that by contracting the PC muscle, when dopamine is getting converted to adrenaline less signal is sent to the testes, so less testosterone is made so less DHt can be converted, thats why he says massage the balls, dorsal side of the penis, base bcus you just about get a enough sexual stimulation for testosterone and not enough for adrenaline, from this doing this for an hour continously feeds the penis with adequate amouts of DHT, but to make more adequate amonts of DHt you need more enzyme so thats where choline comes you need to get an erection for long enough for the conversion of testosterone to DHT is effective, now we already have 5-alpha reductase in a penis already so soon as testosterone hits the spongy tissue of penis its gets converted straight away and then more enzymes are sent by the liver so help now the more erectiond you have the more you supplement etc, will force the penis to create more DHT receptors to cope the amount of DHT in there so the prostate does not suffer, especially when you start clenching you PC muscle more DHt goes on to there then it does on the penis, leaving less DHT for the penis to grow. But the main part is massaging bit now i understand why little stimulation to the penis can trigger greater testosterone than adrenaline for greater penis gains
 
nitric oxidee acts like tap opener more nitric oxide more opening of the tap meaning more DHt, enzymes, more testosterone, can get in and from what we see, is a bigger erection only but underneath what we see is more conversions on the superhormone DHT, HGH is needed to help regenerate the penis though they ssay its really important, it does not does do the main purpose of penis growth its just there to help, but i would still take it speed it up
 
Hey betterpenis123!! This website www.purebulk.com sells the supplements you are toalking about for a real good price. I would substitute the L-Arginine and L-Orthinine for the L-Arginine AKG/L-Orthinine AKG mixture that PureBulk carries. They carry all the supplements in powder form, so it should be easy to intergrate them into drinks of all sorts. Don't forget to take a multi-vitamin with the regiment of your supplements and to Edge.
 
Hey guys I have a few questions about the PB, I bought it about a month ago.
What would be a good schedule for everything, for example, should I balloon then do exercises or vice versa. does it effect your results if you ejaculate after ballooning?
 
well 1st of all ejacuulating depends on ur age but if you are in your twenties then only ejaculating once a week is what is needed then, for the supplements i always take the choline, l-arginine, l-tyrosine, at lunch, the HGH spray when i wake up in the morning and just before im going to go to sleep, the 5-HTP i take it any time but i normally take it between meals, with the evening primose i just take it between meals aswell. When i do ballooning or edging i do it round the evening , but you can do it anytime really its not specific really.
 
well all the prducts listed here you buy frm a vitaminshop because they are all dietry supplements but if you havnt got a vitamin shop near you or a herbal shop for that matter just go on the internet, to be honest the only branding you would have to worry about for quality is the HGH spray, my personal two favourite was vital HGH from the vitaminshoppe or vitacost website, and somatosome HGH by maximum nutrients bought from evitamins.com, all the rest of the supplements i got from a herbal store like holland and barret and the vitamin shoppe
 
Thanks for posting this betterpenis123. Sounds like the exact same philosophy Dr. Lin preaches.

What is your opinion on EPO for you GLA levels for supporting PGE1 levels and the research that claims EPO to be a potent DHT inhibitor. I stick to EPA's for my PGE1. Dr. Barry Sears books seem to be a great resource for info on EFA's and prostaglandin production.
 
Hey Sasquatch,what are EPA's?And so do you think that people doing this program should not take evening primrose oil(because of it inhibiting DHT)?Then why would it be in the formula of the e-book if it was not beneficial in the process?I am just curious,and somewhat confused.Anyways,if you could help that would be awesome.Thank you.
 
well frm what i read in the past EPO(evening primose oil) is source oF GLA its just a nutrient that helps grow the skin, but this evening primose oil is normally used for women in the menstrual cycle, but this info is what i gathered from the penisbible i did notice when i took the evening primose oil my penis was slightly thicker due to the skin being slightly thicker aswell. But yes they are saying that it could be a powerful DHT inhibitor but only in the right places like prostate skin as such but when you supplement on choline, tyrosine (dopamine) they all over power the inhibiting effect of the GLA especially when you are erect when theres a flood of testosterone and DHt.
 
the best answers and help i got for my queries was dr.lin because you can email him with any questions and he replys fast, so i might ask him about this and see what his views are about
 
EPA's are an EFA that comes from fish oil and are direct precursor to prostaglandin production. Some experts say that GLA is not used efficiently within the human body.

I also take quality tribulus terrestris products because tribulus is an alpha 5 reductase activator meaning it converts test to DHT
 
cool so you could add the fish oil and the tribulus terrestris to collection of supplements aswell tribulus not only stimulates alpha reductase theres more test for more DHT to be made
 
From what I've read, if you are taking EPO for you GLA's you are suppose to take toasted sesame oil with it, not sure exactly why though. It is very easy to "overdose" with GLA's and throw out your EFA balance.

For the dopamine production (important for lowering prolactin) check out fava beans, broad beans and velvet beans. They contain very high levels of L-dopa.
 
OK, the deal with GLA and toasted sesame oil is that GLA's quickly create a spillover effect and are turned into AA (arachidonic acid) which is bad. Toasted sesame oil stops the conversion.

EFA's and the proper amounts and ingestion is a very tricky thing. I suggest reading all the works of Dr. Barry Sears, he is the leading authority on EFA's.
 
i might invest in some tribulus because it contains prodoscion which a 5- alpha reductase activator from this aswell taking choline and increase dopamine , LH and serotonin i think a lot of DHT can be made
 
betterpenis- How do you use your HGH spray? Do you spray it orally in the mouth or do you spray it on the penis so the penis can absorb it?
 
betterpenis123;349437 said:
well frm what i read in the past EPO(evening primose oil) is source oF GLA its just a nutrient that helps grow the skin, but this evening primose oil is normally used for women in the menstrual cycle, but this info is what i gathered from the penisbible i did notice when i took the evening primose oil my penis was slightly thicker due to the skin being slightly thicker aswell. But yes they are saying that it could be a powerful DHT inhibitor but only in the right places like prostate skin as such but when you supplement on choline, tyrosine (dopamine) they all over power the inhibiting effect of the GLA especially when you are erect when theres a flood of testosterone and DHt.

?:(?:(?:(This is a foreign language. Can you explained what is the importance of the words I bolded in relation to my penis getting bigger. Wasn't great at science ?:(

"From what I've read, if you are taking EPO for you GLA's you are suppose to take toasted sesame oil with it, not sure exactly why though. It is very easy to "overdose" with GLA's and throw out your EFA balance. For the dopamine production (important for lowering prolactin) check out fava beans, broad beans and velvet beans. They contain very high levels of L-dopa."

Sasquatch-
Why do I want to lower prolactin. what is prolactin, GLA, dopamine?
Is dopamine the same as tyrosine?

In addition what is 5- alpha reductase activator , prostaglandin production, EFA, L-Dopa and it's relation to my penis getting bigger.

Thanks
 
dopamine is a neurotranismitter that comes from tyrosine, dopamine is the first in the chain for making testosterone, so if you have more dopamine more testosterone is made for the penis, GLA( gamma linolenic acid) is a nutrient that helps grow the skin, so when your growing your penis the skin will be able to stretch and accomodate the size, aswell it can help make the spongy tissues of the penis more stretchy for erections, basically a DHt inhibitor is something that stops the DHT affects of DHT working or just stops DHT totally, an inhibitor basically stops something that is specific from working. A 5 alpha reductase activator is something that sends a message to the liver to produce more of the enzyme 5 alpha reductase from this more DHT is made so it can grow the penis, prostogladins are lipids that are made from essential fatty acids (EFA), from this it helps the penis to become more elastic especially the skin so you can get greater erections and prevents inflamation of the penis so thats why when you jizz a lot you get a sore penis because it is inflamed and semen contains prostogladins. And finally l-dopa, this is just a precurser to dopamine meaning that it does the exact same job as dopamine itself even though they are not 100% similiar. remeber all these things we take in are just percursors to do the same job as the real hormones, so we can trick the body or well the penis into growing again.
 
betterpenis123;349785 said:
dopamine is a neurotranismitter that comes from tyrosine, dopamine is the first in the chain for making testosterone, so if you have more dopamine more testosterone is made for the penis, GLA( gamma linolenic acid) is a nutrient that helps grow the skin, so when your growing your penis the skin will be able to stretch and accomodate the size, aswell it can help make the spongy tissues of the penis more stretchy for erections, basically a DHt inhibitor is something that stops the DHT affects of DHT working or just stops DHT totally, an inhibitor basically stops something that is specific from working. A 5 alpha reductase activator is something that sends a message to the liver to produce more of the enzyme 5 alpha reductase from this more DHT is made so it can grow the penis, prostogladins are lipids that are made from essential fatty acids (EFA), from this it helps the penis to become more elastic especially the skin so you can get greater erections and prevents inflamation of the penis so thats why when you jizz a lot you get a sore penis because it is inflamed and semen contains prostogladins. And finally l-dopa, this is just a precurser to dopamine meaning that it does the exact same job as dopamine itself even though they are not 100% similiar. remeber all these things we take in are just percursors to do the same job as the real hormones, so we can trick the body or well the penis into growing again.

MY SUPPLEMENT LIST

Secret Potency Report

1.) Cacao Nibs
2.) Goji Berries
3.) Maca Powder

Penis Bible

4.) choline bitartrate
5.) HGH spray
6.) tyrosine
7.) l-arginine
8.) 5-HTP-serotonin
9.) evening primose

Supplements you've listed

10.) GLA
11.) 5 alpha reductase activator (what product do I buy that will act as a 5 alpha reductase activator.
12.) l-dopa

Supplements Sasquatch listed

13.) fava beans
14.) broad beans
15.) velvet beans
16.) Tribulus

Is there any more supplements that I should add to my list that I will need to help increase my penis?

So we want to have more DHT?

Thanks
 
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yes we want more DHT produced so we can transfer it all to our penis so it can grow and the 5-alpha activators in that list are tribulus and choline bitartrate
 
betterpenis123;349895 said:
yes we want more DHT produced so we can transfer it all to our penis so it can grow and the 5-alpha activators in that list are tribulus and choline bitartrate

Are there anymore supplements I should add to my list?
 
i would use a good quality multi vit and mineral, plus regular exercise not to mention a healthy diet.

SPIRULINA would be a good option as welll, its a super food and contains a huge amount of vitamins, minerals, essential fatty acids, amino acids and chlorophil which is very important for producing new cells.
 
this is what i found on the internet which is the same thing we are trying to do aswell the guy is doctor and his name is dr.kevin pezzi but he advocates a different way this is what i found on a different Penis Enlargement forum

So I bought Pezzi's Advanced Enlargement book. He's painfully long winded and roundabout in his discussion, the guy can't just out and SAY it. I'll attempt to summarize a few of his findings.

DHT is useful only to the extent that your receptors are sensitive/present. Adding more DHT to a grown man's insensitive receptors is like pouring more water into a full sink. The water will still drain at the same rate, you'll just spill a bunch over the edge.

A way to resensitize DHT receptors: Propecia and Rogaine contain finasteride, which supresses DHT. A DHT drought in the body can create more sensitive receptors. So taking Propecia for 6 months and then going off it will create a period of time where your body is more sensitive to DHT. During this post-DHT drought period is when you are supposed to start using DHT gel, when your receptors are hyper sensitized. I sure as hell don't need or want to go on Propecia, DHT gel is about $200 a squeeze tube. Maybe if I'm balding and well financed I'll try this method.

He also talks about heat, and how tissue responds more amicably to tension when heated. He cites a discussion with one of his readers who as a routine heated his penis for a full 1/2 hour, then did basic stretches. This guy reported a 12mm gain in both length and girth(!), but stopped gaining after about 2 weeks. Noobie gains, but this makes me wonder about warm-ups. The usual warm up is about 5-10 minutes.While it has been largely dismissed by the Penis Enlargement community as an injury prevention tactic, it may be worth looking at it as an actual gaining tool. I think I'll try an extra-long warm up routine. while if this info is applicable to my physiology it may break me from my 6 month plateau.
 
i dont think dr.pezzi went the right way you can still create DHT receptors by releasing a lot more DHT into the penis, i dont think you should have to starve the receptors in order for some thing to happen you can still make DHT receptors by puting more DHT in so the penis can take it a lot better so more DHT receptors are made and its a lot cheaper to raise DHT/test then to starve you penis receptors which i think is a lot more dangerous and would result in temporal shrinkage and propecia and finasteridecan be actually dangerous for you balls and liver
 
I agree.

It's great that you have bought all these programs and are sharing them. The last program I bought was "The Secret Potency Report".

The [words=http://buymos.pebible.hop.clickbank.net]Penis Bible[/words] sounds like it focuses more on androgens, prostaglandins and growth horomones. I agree that learning how to ehance production and sensitivity to these hormones should benifit a program based on positive and creative visualization combined with a intelligent and dedicated exercise program.

It seems that whenever I start supplementing my diet with specific foods and supplements intended to drive up my testosterone levels and energy levels combined with a Penis Enlargement program involving jelqing, pumping and ballooning. I am lucky to make 5 days of this self induced blue balls effect before I jerk off 4 times in one day, thus completely burning myself out.
 
ok so choline is the main thing and basically its balooning. Massaging the penis at the base, balls, and sides without trigger zones right? and if im correct choline is the main chemical found in soy lecitin
 
yes you are correct but to get choline directly i just take it from choline bitartrate and the amino acids like tyrosine etc, i get either from milk or whey protein but mainly milk to save some money
 
does anybody think it would be a bad idea to add clamping to the ballooning process? like mabey masturbate till just before point of no return than throw on the clamp. Or does this just defeat the purpose of bringing in nutrient enriched blood to the penis?
 
betterpenis123;348071 said:
right here it goes the supplements need to create the growth are

choline-choline bitartrate or phosphatidyle choline
HGH spray
tyrosine - dopamine
l-argnine
5-HTP-serotonin
water-3-litres
evening primose-PGE-1 precurser

ok il startt with choline, the choline is a neurotransmitter, which can greatly improve erections meaning more blood can enter the penis and so more DHT can enter there and help the liver produce the required enzymes and done so that the body can make more DHt by 5-alpha reductase, i often take choline bitartrate.

HGH as you all know is need for growing things and aswelll is need by the penis, thepenisbible said you should use or it is better to use a spray because they can be absorbed better into the body.

tyrosine an amino acid is needed to manufacture dopamine which in turn makes more testosterone in the testes, therefore more DHT is manufactured aswell.- im my opinion waste of time unless you dont have a high protein diet.

L-arginine- used to produce nitric oxide to help dilate the vessels or relax them and used to expand the chambers of the penis - inmy opinion waste of time unless you dont have a high protein diet,

5-HTP serotonin precursor- quite important used to prevent premature ejaculation, and helps prevent dopamine getting converted to adrenaline which will lead to ejaculate faster and the dopamine needed to help make testosterone may be less efficient, so quite important, and maybe just the answer to cure Penis Enlargement.

water is needed to thicken the blood like in puberty when you made more red blood cells, this is useful in transporting all the nutrients around the body and powering your erections, i know 3 litres maybe a bit too much but it all depends on what you do but me personally i go to the gym a lot so i drink around that much per day.

evening primose- PGE-1 precursor, this is needed to grow the skin of the penis so the extra skin can accomodate the exrta size of the penis, aswell can help make the spongy tissues of the penis more elastic and stretchy so it can expand a lot better. BUT very important point when you reach your size of penis size, and you want to stop growth, stop taking the evening primose. personally me bcus im havnt hardly got any foreskin this is quite important.

last bot not least he said you have to massage, i rememer him saying "if you have just 10 minutes a day time to yourself, would do a world of good for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words] and testosterone production" basically its just like penis ballooning bcus he said massage the groins , balls, base especially, shaft and then upper shaft, and the take yourself to point of no return ,3-5 times, will create DHT receptors after that you are free to ejaculate, but he said the more you do it, as in do it to point of no return more, than 3-5 times , the more the penis will grow. But personally i do this up to 10 times and then ejaculate.

But warning he said the more you ejaculate the less serotonin you have and as you all know serotonin is important to us, if you are like young like 18-24 then you can ejaculate like 4-5 times a week but please dont overdo it bcus you will really stress the body and penis growth is less likely to happen ever, if youre above 30 you can only ejaculate once and above 45 dont ejaculate at all bcus your testicular function is not as great as the younger people.

from that aswell he said that choline will help staighten up curved penises apart from thats about it
 
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