doublelongdaddy;26182 said:
I have read many posts in my time on the impact of girth effecting length and visa-versa. Some men believe training girth may hinder length gains and I want to debate this. In my opinion Length and Girth not only complement each other but a small gain in both directions increase the total size of your penis then if you made the same gain in any single area

I hear people comparing the penis to rope or a rubber band stating that it is easier to stretch a thinner rope or band in comparison to a thicker one. I completely agree with this theory but I feel it is a poor penile comparison. The penis is more like a balloon as it is filled with blood when we get an erection and emptied when we are flaccid.

The reason I debate this is simple you can't fill a rope with liquid so it is impossible to expand the rope through increasing thickness. But you can expand a balloon length and thickness by increasing its load capacity. When you fill a balloon past it’s capacity it not only grows wider but longer too. The penis is very similar to balloon in that when we fill it with blood during an erection it expands outward and upward.

With that said I think it is a bad decision to neglect girth in hopes for better length gains. I have always trained both Length and Girth with as much intensity as the other with very good results. What are your opinions?

I have noticed that when i have my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] sessions i can feel certain engorgement too ...
 
A good stretching session definitely helps me enter the jelly stage:blush:.
Good thread!
 
yup i rmemeebr i had gained like an inch in a week when i was working on girth and length both.....but now by doing only length my gains have really slowed down...
 
Length and girth complement each other ..if you do length work you will gain girth,even a tiny bit,especially at base , and if you do girth you will gain a little bit of length too...

I don't think there are exercises for PURE length or girth :)
 
I would assume [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] and hangers create base girth because since the penis goes inside you, its almost like doing a flaccid/semi-erect bend from the base of your penis which is a common girth exercise, theoretically if you used an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]/hanger with an assisted A stretch type of setup towards the middle of the penis perhaps you could gain similar girth in this location. Two birds with one stone.
 
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steveguy;656161 said:
I would assume [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] and hangers create base girth because since the penis goes inside you, its almost like doing a flaccid/semi-erect bend from the base of your penis which is a common girth exercise, theoretically if you used an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]/hanger with an assisted A stretch type of setup towards the middle of the penis perhaps you could gain similar girth in this location. Two birds with one stone.

This is correct. It also relates to Expressive Stretching and how the base girth pulled forward is thicker than what was there originally and this is why covering all parts of PE are vital to keep things in good symmetry.
 
Brilliant thread that all members need to read

Thanks Red! It was a great article that I point to at least once a week. Brothers can get an understanding of how complimentary girth is to length and him complimentary length is to girth.

Today we can also include the understanding that the Tunica needs to be prepped before we even begin to train using Bundled Stretches. This pre-Stretch allows for so much greater gains. I always knew there was something more to Bundled Stretching than just length gains. And BOOM! There is was!

After years I realized how limiting the Tunica was but I also knew Bundled work would eliminate theses limits. Today it has allowed many Brothers to gain who have never gained before and men who were at plateaus were able to break through. Eventually they became a staple in all PE users exercise list.

It is amazing when theory and method can translate so perfectly with experience and gain. When this happens we make a great stride in the work we do.
 
I come from the future , it was confirmed that clamping technique is all you need to increase the penis overall size progressively

Prove it as I have had to prove. Pictures and measurements and a third party verification. Proof is very hard to illustrate in this business but I have managed to do this in many ways through multiple media sources. Allowing people to measure me so I could ‘prove’ pe worked. Nobody’s proven anything as much as I have so please, If you can make the gains I’ve made and proven using a clamp and nothing more, prove it.
 
Now , what about men with poor lenght and fat cocks

They need to put emphasis on length full time, no need for girth work. But keeping within the guidelines of this thread, if this person got a thicker cock from PE but no length it would surprise me. I would make the assumption that if you have made great girth gains you had to have made minimal length gains. The reason (which you know) is the penis is not like a rope it is much more like a balloon as it expands in all directions when being blown up.
 
After all , the affirmation i read in google "Less blood means a smaller penis" is perfectly right

Or the inability to hold more blood in the penis due to weak pelvic floor muscles.
 
When comes the best part of PE , after 1 year ?

When you reach your goals. There has to be something to work towards. I would say the fastest growing period for most is when they are newbies, so I would say seeing those first gains is a great time to as it changes perspective and gives confidence. For me the best part is now, getting to work with my Brothers full time. I live vicariously through my Brothers, your gains are mine, I share in you excitement. So there are many wonderful places in PE and if you stick around long enough you will experience it all.
 
I hope you dont mean that after the first year of PE we wont no longer gain enough

Gains always slow over time that is why you have to be ready to make PE a permanent part of your life. I made a 2 inch gain in length and a 1/2 inch gain in girth in my first six months but it took the better part of 12 years to gain the rest. How much do you want to gain? That is a much easier question to answer.
 
In my experience, gains come sporadically (not linearly) and there have been plateaus that must be overcome with either a change in routine, more intensity (or both). The first 1 1/2" came very quickly (within the first year) and as DLD mentioned, it was a spring-board to continue and maintain drive/enthusiasm to fight for each and every millimeter thereafter.
 
haha i want to kiss rite now , lets say 1" in lenght more and some girth , i say some cuz i dont know how to measure girth yet :unsure:

1 inch I think you can gain that in six months with consistent work. Measuring girth is simple, take a string and lightly wrap around your penis, mark tgat measurement and gage against your ruler. Or you could simply get a tailors tape at any drugstore, hardware store etc. and this makes it simple.

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Man , how could you be able to PE everyday when you started did you have a work or did you live with your parents at that time im very confused about how did you manage to get it in like that
 
Man , how could you be able to PE everyday when you started did you have a work or did you live with your parents at that time im very confused about how did you manage to get it in like that

In the beginning I was working for my family business but within a year things became so busy at MOS I had to quit my other job. I was living off of the small amount of memberships I was selling for the paysite. I lived on like $50 a week for a very long time. I had to sacrifice much to be able to do what I do today. Eventually the business made enough money but I was able to live off of it, a humble lifestyle but still the brotherhood supported me. Today I no longer actively train but I still spend hours here everyday. Still live in the ghetto, just a better lifestyle.
 
Do u live in Miami

Nah, Massachusetts. Used to spend about half a year in Miami, well actually Boca Raton but We spent most of her time in Hollywood in Miami. We go to Hollywood to shoot all the videos for MOS in the Bang Brothers studios. After we would head out to Miami to party and relax.
 
There's solid information on the first page of this thread! And from year 2003; still gold!

DLD asked about opinions. I've always felt strongly that whatever the exercise, girth and length can come together. Maybe not in totally linear gains, but the "Balloon not a Rope" holds true.
While certain exercises can target length gains more, girth usually takes some place as well.
And vice versa with more girth oriented exercises.

RED brought this thread up and DLD did write a very good follow up about the revival:
Thanks Red! It was a great article that I point to at least once a week. Brothers can get an understanding of how complimentary girth is to length and him complimentary length is to girth.

Today we can also include the understanding that the Tunica needs to be prepped before we even begin to train using Bundled Stretches. This pre-Stretch allows for so much greater gains. I always knew there was something more to Bundled Stretching than just length gains. And BOOM! There is was!

After years I realized how limiting the Tunica was but I also knew Bundled work would eliminate theses limits. Today it has allowed many Brothers to gain who have never gained before and men who were at plateaus were able to break through. Eventually they became a staple in all PE users exercise list.

It is amazing when theory and method can translate so perfectly with experience and gain. When this happens we make a great stride in the work we do.

Just wanted to bring the thread back to the solid ground, as it swayed a bit.
Macons can write a review about the pills to the Pills and Supplements forum. ;)
 
There's solid information on the first page of this thread! And from year 2003; still gold!

DLD asked about opinions. I've always felt strongly that whatever the exercise, girth and length can come together. Maybe not in totally linear gains, but the "Balloon not a Rope" holds true.
While certain exercises can target length gains more, girth usually takes some place as well.
And vice versa with more girth oriented exercises.

RED brought this thread up and DLD did write a very good follow up about the revival:


Just wanted to bring the thread back to the solid ground, as it swayed a bit.
Macons can write a review about the pills to the Pills and Supplements forum. ;)

Good move!
 
I still believe that if you gain allot of girth from the start, and focus on length more later down the road, it will be more difficult.

Don't believe me? try to imagine Shorty Mac with his massive girth gaining 1" in erect length compared to the average guy gaining the same. The sheer volume takes up more time in growth.
 
I still believe that if you gain allot of girth from the start, and focus on length more later down the road, it will be more difficult.

Don't believe me? try to imagine Shorty Mac with his massive girth gaining 1" in erect length compared to the average guy gaining the same. The sheer volume takes up more time in growth.

Who doesn’t believe you? Are you trying to say the study is not right? I’m kind of confused on what you’re saying here please clarify.
 
it kinda makes sense that both type of exercises (girth and length) influence each other.

For instance, girth exercises is going to weaken the tunica... After that, you can mold the weakened tunica in any direction you want first (lenght or girth)
 
Who doesn’t believe you? Are you trying to say the study is not right? I’m kind of confused on what you’re saying here please clarify.

Not saying anyone doesn't believe me. Its a turn of phrase, and I used the famous adult entertainment star Shorty Mac as an example. He is very thick, so thick, it neatly catches up with his length.

Both girth & length gains crossover to an extent, BUT when the man is already huge in girth (this could be natural or from mostly girth gains), gaining length from that point on is difficult ..FACT .. experience talking here, and explained how I believe that process goes. Not impossible at all, but certainly more difficult, and that was what I disclosed recently, this isn't to belittle your viewpoint, everyone can think what they like.
 
The more I read and research about tunica and septum, the more difficult it seems to grow it. This tissues are extremely hard to grow.

Based on that study that measured the amount of pressure required to burst the tunica, it seems like no matter how much pressure you create, the tissues are not really expanding beyond its elasticity. It seems like the tissues reach its 100%, you increase pressure, but expansion remains the same. You can feel pain, it will feel hard like steel, but there is no more expansion. Until eventually reaches its maximum resistance and explodes.

That is discouraging because ideally you would expect that the tunica reach its 100%, you increase pressure, tunica reaches 150%. Over time it grows to 110%, you increase pressure, it stretches to 160%, over time grows to 120% and so on. But is not the case.

I guess is the same with a joint for example. You can stretch so much to do a full split with your legs, but that doesn't mean you can stretch the join to literally pull your leg out of your hip socket 10 inches far out. The ligaments are only going to stretch and strengthen to allow a full split and thats it. Its their genetic limit.

Same with the dick. It seems like when we grow through PE, you are growing a joint to allow you to do a full split. Thats it. People who gain more in PE is because they had more untouched genetic potential. Similar to somebody that never did any sport in his life and for the for the first time start a routine to stretch the joints. It will gain a lot of flexibility until it reaches its genetic limit.

It seems like when you reach the maximum of stretching with the septum, is game over. It just cant grow beyond that length. You can hang an airplane from it, IT WILL NOT ELONGATE. It will rip off your pubic bone, the glans will rip off the phallus, but the septum will remain intact in its length. It will not stretch beyond its limit, it will not grow any longer, only tougher.

The hope is in gene therapy and procedures like ultrasound waves.
 
it kinda makes sense that both type of exercises (girth and length) influence each other.

For instance, girth exercises is going to weaken the tunica... After that, you can mold the weakened tunica in any direction you want first (lenght or girth)

They do benefit each other as the study shows. The penis grows in all directions whether it’s length or girth work. There’s obviously better ways to approach girth and then going with and length exercise but the point is the penis will grow in all directions anyways. The more effort you put in the length of the more length you’ll get but you also get a bit of girth. And if you go for all girth you’re gonna end up with a bit of length. They complement each other.
 
Not saying anyone doesn't believe me. Its a turn of phrase, and I used the famous adult entertainment star Shorty Mac as an example. He is very thick, so thick, it neatly catches up with his length.

Both girth & length gains crossover to an extent, BUT when the man is already huge in girth (this could be natural or from mostly girth gains), gaining length from that point on is difficult ..FACT .. experience talking here, and explained how I believe that process goes. Not impossible at all, but certainly more difficult, and that was what I disclosed recently, this isn't to belittle your viewpoint, everyone can think what they like.


Shorty Mac would be a man and anomaly because he’s extremely unique, along with all others that are in his size range. There will always be a misnomer and every study but the reason I wrote this study is to show that each part of PE and enhances the other. This study is written for the 90% it is applicable to.
 
Deforming the tunica,what are the exercises that could deform the tunica?

What about ligaments?? How can they get longer... stretching exercises there are tons of exercises here
 
This is a good point but it is also important to stick with a solid routine and not jump around too much. I think allot of guys become overwhelmed with the infinite number of Penis Enlargement exercises. I think that once you find a workout that works for you, you should stick with it until plateau.

SRT take what we can when time or whatever is not enough for a full session
 
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