The Coming Of The Vacu-extender!!!

[KingD]

I am posting this thread for Monkeybar because I know that he is very busy setting up his new shop and getting ready to put out another great product!!! Now I have no affiliation nor do I gain anything by posting this, just the fact that I might be helping someone out is reward enough for me. This is a copy of the thread that Monkeybar posted at Thunder's, so check it out.


Finally I've moved into the new place. I now should have more time for better customer service (sorry for few folks) and updating the website. I literally didn't have any internet connection or working equipment.

The VacExtender mold is now being made and 1st shipment will go out on 29th or 30th. I'll probably won't do pre-order this time as it put more pressure on me last time.

Here's the picture of the proto-type - http://autoextender.com/vacextenderdev.html

First the release date and version:

1) The 1st one out of the gate will be for other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] version (for those that have [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words]/PM/others) and will ship on 29/30th.
2) The AutoEXT version will ship on 2nd week of July. This is for both complete package or those that only need the head parts for AutoEXT. The old AutoEXT base will work, however, the base has been redesigned for more comfort (same dimension).

Here's some info,

1) Same or more comfort level as Vacu-Hanger and same benefits (amount of wear time, usage, etc).

2) Stealthy - can't get any smaller - it just grab the top part of the head.

3) Its not a heavy hanger, but can hang up to 5 +- lb

4) [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] function - AutoEXT or other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. Adds new meaning to [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and amount of force - forget about previous experiences, you really could stretch your willy until your lig hurts or pain from the base hitting your bone. Its nice altenative to hanging only.

5) [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] functions - many ways to wear this: A) strap down the leg, around the waist (with ring on the base of cock for attachment or on a leg strap), over the shoulder or around the neck. It will come with elastic cord and you could use it anyway you like.

Without boosting - if you could only buy one device, this is it. I use this (been for last 2 months) about 90% of the time, supplementing only with vacu-hanger for heavier weight. You just can't get it any smaller or comfortable.

Thats it for now, the ordering page will be up around shipping time. I'll also put some pics in usage of all different application.

Cheers.

 

[sweets]

Does he say how much?

 

[8InchMIKE]

Damn i loved this new device, i think when i wear out my newbie gains with phase 1 i'll buy this device... looks incredible and multi-tasking like windows XP, well ok i'm exagerating maybe not windows XP but a linux or something lol

Just kidding guys ( yet still it is the truth rofl )...

Well any info on how us europeans might buy this online?

Peace

Mike

 

[cyberstud25]

this is the message i wrote on the autoexstender site, if this gets cleared up ill purchase one!

i hope you guys plan on including a large ammount of sleeves since ive read theres a problem with breakage of them with the vac hanger even the new thicker model sleeve..

a person using the exstender for 8 plus hrs a day will have major wear and tear on the sleeves since they will be coming on and off at least 1x a hr to pee, so i hope autoexstender.com plans on giving at least 10 sleaves or will at least send free replacements!



3 sleeves at 15 bucks +shipping at the moment is steering me away from this device considering other exstenders are 1 time fee.. to me it looks like this could lead into alot of money over time and loss of important [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] time while waiting for delivery of new sleeves!

id like to here autoexstenders response to this..

 

[cyberstud25]

I am also a bit skeptical on the size of the head piece,it looks like only a small portion of the head will be covered by the plastic while the rest will be covered and pulled on by the sleeve wich mite result in easy iritation.
this small head piece is based on forskin restoration devices without a air hole wich when your skin is pulled over and taped to the plastic it causes a vacum(ive discovered this yrs ago when i used to sleep with 1.5 lbs atached to the my homemade forskin restoration device )!

 

[cyberstud25]

Id also like to know if the autoexstender will com with Precise Tension Measurement..

similar to this:
The [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PeniMaster[/words] (PM Device) comes with a spring-loaded gauge that allows you to precisely measure the amount of tension applied to the penis.


i find this very very important because yrs ago i had a peni stretcher(first [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]jes[/words] knockoff) and it didnt have the precision tension measurement wich was a major pain in the ass!

i think alot of newbies can due themselves injury because human nature will say stretch more this isnt 1500 grams ect...

 

[cyberstud25]

does autoexstender.com ever answer emails, messages on thier own forum or other forums for that matter? ive been emailing that site and posting questions with no response...
you would think someone with a business would at least respond to emails and messages on thier own forum within 3 days! id be really nervous to send any money to that site after this!

i know the site owner moved and all , but this is a bit much...

 

[KingD]

POST FROM MONKEYBAR:Finally I've moved into the new place. I now should have more time for better customer service (sorry for few folks) and updating the website. I literally didn't have any internet connection or working equipment.


As stasted by Monkeybar, he has just moved into a new building and is very busy "setting up shop". Here are some other issues he is having moving in.

POST FROM MONKEYBAR:Sorry for the delay - I was actually going to release it this week, but this moving thing is a nightmale. I'd putting in new electrical wiring as it didn't have enought for my machines. This new place is not what it crack up to be - there's no cable or DSL available. Its bigger than the last place, which I desperately needed, but no cable? Jeesh.


Give him some time, he'll always respond when he gets the time.

 

[cyberstud25]

well its been 5 days since i wrote him,it takes 10 seconds to write back to someone!(plug your phoneline into the pc ,check your board and emails, then go back to working on your setup, he could take 15 minutes out of his day to answer emails and his forum)
im sure hes still taking orders and theres customers who mite have ordered with no way of contacting him if they wanted to know if the order went through, to cancel, to change ect...

he should have the site shutdown till he's ready to conduct business properly! what if you dont know of this forum and just order a product , then email the guy and get no response? you post a message on his board and get no response, whats a a customer to think?

 

[sizequest]

well its been 5 days since i wrote him,it takes 10 seconds to write back to someone!(plug your phoneline into the pc ,check your board and emails, then go back to working on your setup, he could take 15 minutes out of his day to answer emails and his forum)
im sure hes still taking orders and theres customers who mite have ordered with no way of contacting him if they wanted to know if the order went through, to cancel, to change ect...

he should have the site shutdown till he's ready to conduct business properly! what if you dont know of this forum and just order a product , then email the guy and get no response? you post a message on his board and get no response, whats a a customer to think?

I tend to agree. I have posted not only on this forum but on MB own site weeks ago and no reply at all. As I have bought three of his products I find this very ordinary customer support/service.
I realize that moving would take up time but you owe it to your customers, especially the ones who have purchased the products the decency to reply to questions that relate to your product. You cannot make excuses for poor customer service or you shouldn't be in business in the first place.

 

[cyberstud25]

I tend to agree. I have posted not only on this forum but on MB own site weeks ago and no reply at all. As I have bought three of his products I find this very ordinary customer support/service.
I realize that moving would take up time but you owe it to your customers, especially the ones who have purchased the products the decency to reply to questions that relate to your product. You cannot make excuses for poor customer service or you shouldn't be in business in the first place.

My biggest problem now is should i buy and get hooked on something that needs these sleeves purchased from autoexstender every few months, when it has the makings of a company that could fold at anytime.
I could easily see this guy saying a yr from now that he cant keep up with it due to his family and his regular job ect.... then where all stuck with a vac exstender with no sleeves!

someone else can easily make these things , but they have to be willing to put up the cash to get the ball rolling(your not gonna spend several thousand just to make your own sleeves)!i was looking into making a sleeve for a foreskin restoration type device several yrs ago after i realized the the vacuum was pulling on my entire inner penis plus the skin, so if i did'nt have to tape the skin to the cylinder id take the skin stretching out of the equation. part 2 was making it so it never had to be removed unless you wanted to breathe or just wash it . part 3 was to have constant tension of 3 lbs 24/7(i had a better version of a product(that company went out of business a yr or so ago) that would accomplish this!

on the other hand I'm sure some these other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] ripoff companies will copy the vac hanger if it turns out to be a good product and we will have plenty to choose from!

im currently leaning to the max vac or the grip gflex weight atacHydromaxent sleeve(for a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]) since both companies have good solid customer service!

 

[cypher79]

I'm also thinking of getting one of these, the only thing stopping me is the fact that you only hang around 5lbs, max? And isnt the whole point in hanging to INCREASE your weights as you progress?

 

[cyberstud25]

from what ive read it could hang 30 plus lbs, but most say 10lbs for maximum comfort before side effects like water blisters start occuring..
i also personally believe time in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] is more important then ammount of weight, dr [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]jes[/words] 3 lbs 12 or more hrs a day theory is what i go by!
if you research every body part that dr's enlarge ,its always by constant tensiomn 24/7 at tiny increment increases in tension.

if someone offered me a million bucks to pick who was gonna grow more lengh between a guy useing 3 lbs of tension 24/7 on his penis for 1 yr or a guy hanging 30 lbs 7 hrs a day , id without hesitation take the guy doing 3lbs 24/7!

 

[KingD]

Here is another post by Monkeybar that I am once again posting just to inform those interested.

POST BY MONKEYBAR: You guys are so impatient Just came back - sort of. Have to go to sleep soon as I haven't slept for 24 hours.

I'm just working out the production issue. Its one thing to design the device and completely different challenges for production.

Here's the latest info - www.autoextender.com/vacextender.html

There's a video near the bottom also - I didn't realize I had a such a big love handle. Must hit the gym. The jean is a Levis low rise, size 32. Its a tight fitting jean.

Cheers

 

[cypher79]

So is there a difference between the Vac-Hanger and the Vac-Extender? If there is, which can hold the most weight?

 

[cyberstud25]

the vac exstender is designed to hold 5 lbs or less..
again the vac loos like a good product and gets good reviews, but the customer service is borderline non existant!

theres a few reviews ive seen where people ordered thier product and havent got any email responses in over 2 weeks!

130 bucks and no email responses is keeping me away from this!

 

[blackice]

chill out man, your on line with the rest of us untill it's out!

 

[TomdW]

Here is somewhere you'll get a better product, excellent customer service and video's of it in use. http://www.mynewsize.com/

Also it's tried and tested. I've gained 0.5" BPSFL with 3 months of use with picture proof and I only used 5 lbs for 1 hour sets. These hangers are hands down better because they come with a valve to which you can attatch a pump. That way you can control the amount of vacuum that you use at all times. The MaX-Vacs are also made using top quality components. Register here to access the videos and a lot more: http://www.mynewsize.com/forum/

I don't get it. I write loads of posts saying how amazing the MaX-Vac is and yet no-one listens.

 

[cyberstud25]

Here is somewhere you'll get a better product, excellent customer service and video's of it in use. http://www.mynewsize.com/

Also it's tried and tested. I've gained 0.5" BPSFL with 3 months of use with picture proof and I only used 5 lbs for 1 hour sets. These hangers are hands down better because they come with a valve to which you can attatch a pump. That way you can control the amount of vacuum that you use at all times. The MaX-Vacs are also made using top quality components. Register here to access the videos and a lot more: http://www.mynewsize.com/forum/

I don't get it. I write loads of posts saying how amazing the MaX-Vac is and yet no-one listens.

i woul def. go with the max vac if i wanted to hang more then 10 lbs, but im looking for 6-8 and the rest as a all day at 3 lbs , so im more interested in the vacu hanger for that reason(+i made something like it yrs ago and know if made right it would do what im lookin for it to do)....
to bad for me because crash's customer service looks oustanding, autoexstender.com isnt bad its non existent!

 

[TomdW]

The MaX-Vac can be used for hanging light or heavy and it's a much better design. If you look at both products it seems like a no brainer to me. Monkeybars products look cheaply made and yet the prices are still so similar.

What happens when you decide that you do want to hang heavier also?

Have you read any of the information on the forum at mynewsize?

For me this just comes down to buying the best designed, most versatile product on the market that is backed by proven excellent customer support and has also been shown to work. It's up to you but the answer seems pretty obvious to me.

 

[cyberstud25]

The MaX-Vac can be used for hanging light or heavy and it's a much better design. If you look at both products it seems like a no brainer to me. Monkeybars products look cheaply made and yet the prices are still so similar.

What happens when you decide that you do want to hang heavier also?

Have you read any of the information on the forum at mynewsize?

For me this just comes down to buying the best designed, most versatile product on the market that is backed by proven excellent customer support and has also been shown to work. It's up to you but the answer seems pretty obvious to me.

im done with heavy hanging, 2 yrs ago i did 20 lbs a day useing the bib for 7 hrs a day for 4.5 months without missing a day and gained zippo!
i ddnt measure once before the 4.5 months , so you could imagine the disbelief when i put the ruler up to my cock after all that suffering useing the bib 7 hrs a day at 20 lbs!

all of my 1.5 inch gains came back in 2006 useing the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]jes[/words] exstender for 12 hrs a day for 5 months. if it wasnt for the pain(from the noose) i went through using that i would have kept going, now im goin 12 to 15 hrs a day for at least 6 months at 3 or more lbs with the vacu hanger as long as it does what everyone says it will do(zero pain at 3 lbs)!

basically because of my own trial and error i feel heavy weight is useless, 3 lbs worn constantly i think based on my own exsperience and dr [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]jes[/words]'s reaearch is the best way to go!

 

[cyberstud25]

The MaX-Vac can be used for hanging light or heavy and it's a much better design. If you look at both products it seems like a no brainer to me. Monkeybars products look cheaply made and yet the prices are still so similar.

What happens when you decide that you do want to hang heavier also?

Have you read any of the information on the forum at mynewsize?

For me this just comes down to buying the best designed, most versatile product on the market that is backed by proven excellent customer support and has also been shown to work. It's up to you but the answer seems pretty obvious to me.

the funny thing is people on the other forum were killing crash for his price and not one mention about monkeybars price wich is about the same. yet the max vac looks much more involved to make.(shows how some these forums have a agenda, especially when the main mod in monkeybar's threads is a "FREE" product tester )

the vacu hanger cost about 2 dollars in material to make. now i know where paying for monkey bar to buy the molds, equiptment ect... (im sure he made that back within the first 20-30 devices sold) and put the time into making the product,but 90 bucks for a 2 dollar product is pretty rediculous!

id bet within a yr there will be 5 or more sites selling the same thing for half the price, patents mean shit(just look at a huge company like the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]jes[/words] exstender theres at least ten knockoffs, just change the color and a bolt here or there),,,,,

 

[john5]

I've placed a order over a week ago and have gotten no email responses from autoexstender.com wich is pissing me off because i have some important questions and i also wanted to change myo order.
I wish i saw this thread before i ordered so i could have bought the max-vac since im looking for a heavy hanger.


john

 

[REDZULU2003]

Give the guy a chance, I have done many buisness with him in the past and he is REAL and a GOOD GUY so give him time and also the vacu-hanger can hang heavy as I have tested it doing so, and remember heavy isnt always better like some think.

You dont need to use huge amounts of weight and small amounts like what the vacu-hanger is said to use is perfectly enough to see good gains.

Also lets not make this a Product VS Product saga, as both products are good and to me will help whoever buys them. Its to the decision of whoever is looking at either model as to what they buy and they shouldnt have their minds decided by anyone else but themselves .... slow email replies by Monkeybar isnt good but like KingD has said the guy has just moved and I'm SURE HE WILL GET BACK TO YOU as like I've said I have delt with him and he is a real good guy and not a scammer like some .... give him some more time and he'll produce the goods.

I hope in time he also gets a forums running at his site so users of his products can give feedback and lots of advice on it all.

 

[john5]

well ill wait till tuesday and if i dont here nothing then im calling paypal and asking for a refund!

 

[REDZULU2003]

I understand and its your choice.
Hope it goes well for you and that he does get back to you as it is a good product and I do think you would like it like I have.

If you dont get anything after Tuesday than go for the product sold by BTC but please dont go dissing autoextender.com and monkeybar as we DO NOT know the exact circumstances surrounding his abscence, and it isnt nice to speculate and start gossip so please respect this ... I know you have paid via Paypal and money makes the world go round but please understand that its his buisness and mud sticks when infact it doesnt need to be thrown, if you understand what I mean.

Thanks

 

[blackice]

I have ordered from autoextender 2x's in the past and every thing was cool. Monkeybar also answered like a dozen of my emails quickly also, except for these last 2 weeks, he's obviously something came up, just give him a few, he's certainly not looking to rip anyone off.

 

[cyberstud25]

anyone get in touch with this guy yet?

 

[cypher79]

I'm really torn between the Max-Vac and the Vacu-Hanger, but I think I'm gonna have to go for the Vacu-Hanger coz that comes with that leg strap so you can wear it as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] during the day, then do some hanging in the evening, and also its a bit cheaper. I admit, the Max-Vac does look better built but for that reason I'm gonna have to go with the Vac-Hanger.

 

[TomdW]

The main reason I'd personally go with the MaX-Vac, leaving customer service and speed of delivery out of it, is due to the ability to change the amount of vacuum in the cylinder at all times. I think this gives it more potential to hang heavier weights but also to find the most comfortable amount of presure at any weight. When I hang 5 lbs I attatch the weight and then increase and decrease the pressure in the cylinder until it is most comfortable. Then as time goes by I alter the presure depending again on comfort.

So it seems to me that what I have just explained is the main benefit of the MaX-Vac although you can not use a pump at all and it would work exactly the same as the Vacu-hanger does. The main benefit of the Vacu-hanger is the fact that it comes with a leg strap.

 

[The BTC Killer]

I'm really torn between the Max-Vac and the Vacu-Hanger, but I think I'm gonna have to go for the Vacu-Hanger coz that comes with that leg strap so you can wear it as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] during the day, then do some hanging in the evening

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[TomdW]

lol

So buy that leg strap and then you have the best of both worlds. Hang heavy and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] with the MaX-Vac.

I keep saying it. The ability to change the amount of pressure in the cylinder at all times is a massive benefit.

 

[cyberstud25]

I'm really torn between the Max-Vac and the Vacu-Hanger, but I think I'm gonna have to go for the Vacu-Hanger coz that comes with that leg strap so you can wear it as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] during the day, then do some hanging in the evening, and also its a bit cheaper. I admit, the Max-Vac does look better built but for that reason I'm gonna have to go with the Vac-Hanger.

well if you do the math the vac hanger comes to about 133 bucks with tax afte you ordrer 3 exstra sleeeves( pretty much needed since they rip according to what ive read on another forum) and the constriction sleeve(needed to prevent blisters) the leg strap and waist strap i made yrs ago for about 2 dollars with string and a ring from lowes!

so since thier the same price, id base my purchase on what your gonna use it for , wether or not you will recieve the product in a timely manner and if you could reach customer support if you want to return, need help using it or have other questions..

 

[cypher79]

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So why dont you start selling these in with the Max-Vac, as part of a package deal? It would occur to me that a lot guys would be more interested if this was the case.

 

[The BTC Killer]

So why dont you start selling these in with the Max-Vac, as part of a package deal? It would occur to me that a lot guys would be more interested if this was the case.

Because anyone can pick this up around their local neighborhood. You may have a different preference than what MyNewSize chose to offer, and things that are this cheap are a useless show of trinkets and gadgets. However, MyNewSize will begin to offer weight plate stack holders. Something that is not "ready-made" and readily available across the street. I think this is an important enhancement to hangers because it centers gravity, and eases weight change.

I have mentioned advice to connect the M\/ upwards, down the leg, BTC (ADS), OTL, connected to a bed headboard and swinging 30 pounds off your cock. If you want string and velcro....

 

[cypher79]

The main reason I'd personally go with the MaX-Vac, leaving customer service and speed of delivery out of it, is due to the ability to change the amount of vacuum in the cylinder at all times. I think this gives it more potential to hang heavier weights but also to find the most comfortable amount of presure at any weight. When I hang 5 lbs I attatch the weight and then increase and decrease the pressure in the cylinder until it is most comfortable. Then as time goes by I alter the presure depending again on comfort.

So by this, I take it your talking about the hand pump? I say this because I probably will only hang about 10-15 pounds max and I'm not sure if I want the added hassle and expense of a pump.

 

[john5]

well its tuesday and still no response on a item i PAID MONEY for!
this is pathetic!

 

[The BTC Killer]

So by this, I take it your talking about the hand pump? I say this because I probably will only hang about 10-15 pounds max and I'm not sure if I want the added hassle and expense of a pump.

The hand-pump is not required. I think there's some pictures around here with me hanging 30 pounds without added vacuum, but the (hand-pump)option is available with the MV. I'm sure the Vacu-hanger is a decent product so don't let us bust your balls. I noticed I was referred to as crashhex. At [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] members are free to talk about the Max-Vac. Unfortunately, there is some partisan influence at other boards and topics are carefully watched, scrutinized, discouraged and moved to a single un-related thread.. Some people in life actually enjoy being an ass and it always shows.

As a consumer, I would pay attention to members' personal reflections, images and routine progress. Not VS. from one board to another. Obviously, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] seems pro MV, and the other pro VH. Personally, I haven't come across too many members' experiences with the VH at either board, but I'm sure there's several opinions (even from those that don't own either).



~BTC

 

[john5]

wed. still no response!
buyer beware...

 

[monkeybar]

wed. still no response!
buyer beware...

John, send me a PM and I'll refund your purchase. Its already shipped, but you could ship it back and I'll provide a full refund including shipping.

I've been away for a 2 weeks due to a personal reason and I do apology for that. I believe I have a pretty good customer service, but personal life takes precedent.

As for the discussion between MV vs Vacu-hanger - I've talked to crash while back and he's a good guy. There's no need to trash or one up the other product. We all know what each device does and they are both good products (in my eye). If you like the look of a device and thats determining factor, then it is the product for you - you still can't go wrong with neither product.

As you know, I don't just sell Vacu-Hanger. I have many products, both on the website and on the pipeline. I test my product for long long time before its ever introduced. My product will never look good as Crash's hanger as it is not injection molded by a professional molding shop. Everything I make is done by me, at my shop. Its just different philosophy as I've discussed this with Crash. I tend to change my design quite often as I keep finding better way to re-design the devices. This makes outsourcing very difficult (very costly), which in turns will keep me boutique producer at best. Crash, for example, could probably produce 10,000 units per month if he wished - for me, at max - I could make about couple of hundered units.

As for the pricing, yes it doesn't cost lot of money in terms of material. But for me, the development cost (without saying how much, you could buy nice a nice BathmateW) and time associated has to be recouped. If someone is saying I could recoup after 20-30 press doesn't know how much it take to bring things to market. Yes, you could make fairly cheap home version, but to have a small production environment is quite a another story.

Again, I apology for any delay and you are welcome to PM me for any refund or returns.

Note: If you emailed me, please bear with me as I'm having amazing spamming issues. I'm getting 1 letigimate email for every 200 messages.

cheers.

 

[monkeybar]

Opps,

Forget to mention that Modified VacExtender is released and will ship next Tuesday. This is the VacExtender version for other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] - [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words]/PM/Andro, etc.

As mentioned before, if you can only afford 1 device, this is it. Its a multi-purpose device that could be used as a light hanger (up to 7.5lb), manual excersizer and multi-position [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] device. You could hang, pull and wear around the waist, leg, over the neck or shoulder. All of the benefit of Vacuum device is there, in small form factor.

As I tried to explain in another board, the main strength of this device is not that its small or comfortable, but the non-invasive usability. It sometimes doesn't feel like you have it on - which to me is the holy grail of Penis Enlargement - to wear something and don't have to change your behavior (ie. walking funny, constantly checking, etc).

Some preliminary information is on the site.

Thank you and again sorry for the delay.

 

[blackice]

The link to add the whole vacexteder into your cart is missing, or is not available at the moment? Will getting one by the end of the month be a problem?

 

[monkeybar]

The link to add the whole vacexteder into your cart is missing, or is not available at the moment? Will getting one by the end of the month be a problem?

Sorry, still working on the website/order page. As mentioned, the regular VacExtender (which comes with its own base) will be released in 3rd week of this month. I'm redesigning the base a bit so that its bit wider and more comfortable.

The ordering page should be done by tonight - don't order yet as the pricing will change - cheaper. Wait till there are no notice sign on top.

 

[monkeybar]

The MaX-Vac can be used for hanging light or heavy and it's a much better design. If you look at both products it seems like a no brainer to me. Monkeybars products look cheaply made and yet the prices are still so similar.

What happens when you decide that you do want to hang heavier also?

Have you read any of the information on the forum at mynewsize?

For me this just comes down to buying the best designed, most versatile product on the market that is backed by proven excellent customer support and has also been shown to work. It's up to you but the answer seems pretty obvious to me.

I wasn't going to go this route, but have to respond (with several users prodding me as they thought this was over the line) I'm writing this with the knowledge that you are representing Crash's interest - which I believe you were going to sell his product on Ebay.

Crash, hopefully this type of things doesn't happen as I had a nice conversation with you and I mentioned your product positively in both board. If user don't like either of product, its one thing, but to have someone represent you and say something that not substantiated is uncall for. I could have many people start talking negatively about your product, but I don't as we both seem to have a genuine concern toward our hobby. You don't need to drum up business this way as my impression of you was better than that. If I mispoke about TomW's role I do apology.

TomW - how is it better design? Is it just a personal preference? or did you scientifically measured the effects. It seems like a blank and unsubstantiated statement to me. Have you beta tested my product for 3 months by veteran users before even thinking about selling? Is it because its better looking or shinier? Please explain.

I've been in the Penis Enlargement arena for long time and making stuff out of frustration. I'm not here to compete with you or Crash, the user will make their own mind. I don't really care if users buy my product, and in many (and many) cases, I steer them off my products as I don't think they have the determination to stick with the program. It will be silly and waste of money for them. I certainly could take their money, but I sometimes don't - I'm happy with what I designed and majority of people seem to agree with me. If they don't, then they get their money back. Period. I'm not saying I don't want to sell the product as lots of money went into making the product, but if something works for them already, they don't need to buy my product.

So before making some statement without substantiated facts, you need to explain your experience with both product. I could mention many veterans who have gained (a real result, not a hearsay, which seems to be common on these threads) quite a bit using less than 5lbs (used consistantly and for longer duration), so your higher weight capability is pretty much a moot point. As mentioned in my website, we only support up to 10lb. Can it do more - yes, I personally tested double the weight - but setup as a business with real liability insurance premium to pay, I do not support more than that for risk adversion. I also stick to time is more important than weight camp - and I truly belive that. So I do put 10lb as a weight limit, but I wished people would use a lower weight and do it for longer duration.

Typically, most users drop out of Penis Enlargement due to misconception, thinking that higher weight will result in quicker gain. It may be true for few people, but for the majority of users, it simply will not happen. Thats why I do preach what I preach - to keep these users involved so that they will see the gain - not give up after a month. If I simply wanted to make money, I could put up - "you could gain 3 inches in 3 months" like some website. But I don't and thats that.

You mention pricing - I remember Crash talking about his pricing. You should know that since you are involved. Its no way near the price we do charge. I'm not sure if Crash has told you (if he got his patents), but my patents process cost $12,000 alone and I have a several patents. If you wanted to know, some of the things you mentioned are already infringing on my patent (which my lawyer wanted to persue). But I dont' want to go that route as its not what I want to do - hopefully you get this message.

Lastly, I'm sorry if I mis-understood your comment and correct me if I did. In the future, I would stick with how to better use the device you are interested in and try to help people so that they don't become another short time Penis Enlargement'er.

cheers.

 

[cypher79]

Hey monkeybar, when is the Vacu-Extender head piece for the AutoExtender coming out? Its just my penis keeps slipping out of the original autoextender head piece when i try to move around, also, any ideas of what the price will be? Also, how long can you wear it for?

Thanks in advance

 

[cyberstud25]

I wasn't going to go this route, but have to respond (with several users prodding me as they thought this was over the line) I'm writing this with the knowledge that you are representing Crash's interest - which I believe you were going to sell his product on Ebay.

Crash, hopefully this type of things doesn't happen as I had a nice conversation with you and I mentioned your product positively in both board. If user don't like either of product, its one thing, but to have someone represent you and say something that not substantiated is uncall for. I could have many people start talking negatively about your product, but I don't as we both seem to have a genuine concern toward our hobby. You don't need to drum up business this way as my impression of you was better than that. If I mispoke about TomW's role I do apology.

TomW - how is it better design? Is it just a personal preference? or did you scientifically measured the effects. It seems like a blank and unsubstantiated statement to me. Have you beta tested my product for 3 months by veteran users before even thinking about selling? Is it because its better looking or shinier? Please explain.

I've been in the Penis Enlargement arena for long time and making stuff out of frustration. I'm not here to compete with you or Crash, the user will make their own mind. I don't really care if users buy my product, and in many (and many) cases, I steer them off my products as I don't think they have the determination to stick with the program. It will be silly and waste of money for them. I certainly could take their money, but I sometimes don't - I'm happy with what I designed and majority of people seem to agree with me. If they don't, then they get their money back. Period. I'm not saying I don't want to sell the product as lots of money went into making the product, but if something works for them already, they don't need to buy my product.

So before making some statement without substantiated facts, you need to explain your experience with both product. I could mention many veterans who have gained (a real result, not a hearsay, which seems to be common on these threads) quite a bit using less than 5lbs (used consistantly and for longer duration), so your higher weight capability is pretty much a moot point. As mentioned in my website, we only support up to 10lb. Can it do more - yes, I personally tested double the weight - but setup as a business with real liability insurance premium to pay, I do not support more than that for risk adversion. I also stick to time is more important than weight camp - and I truly belive that. So I do put 10lb as a weight limit, but I wished people would use a lower weight and do it for longer duration.

Typically, most users drop out of Penis Enlargement due to misconception, thinking that higher weight will result in quicker gain. It may be true for few people, but for the majority of users, it simply will not happen. Thats why I do preach what I preach - to keep these users involved so that they will see the gain - not give up after a month. If I simply wanted to make money, I could put up - "you could gain 3 inches in 3 months" like some website. But I don't and thats that.

You mention pricing - I remember Crash talking about his pricing. You should know that since you are involved. Its no way near the price we do charge. I'm not sure if Crash has told you (if he got his patents), but my patents process cost $12,000 alone and I have a several patents. If you wanted to know, some of the things you mentioned are already infringing on my patent (which my lawyer wanted to persue). But I dont' want to go that route as its not what I want to do - hopefully you get this message.

Lastly, I'm sorry if I mis-understood your comment and correct me if I did. In the future, I would stick with how to better use the device you are interested in and try to help people so that they don't become another short time Penis Enlargement'er.

cheers.

thats a lot of mumbo jumbo for a product you altered (ripped off) from stretch system 2000 and the grips gflex sleeve [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] (wich is also marketed as a pe device thats vacuum based)!
plus your aytoexster was a total ripoff of the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]jes[/words] and bib jeeeeez!!!!!

your gonna get lawyers and this n that involved when the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]jes[/words] is a patent item and you have a version out with a modified head.... funny!

why waste 12 gs on patents when someone can just change a minor detail and market those products themselves?

 

[The BTC Killer]

Monkey,

TomdW doesn't sell M/s and has no commercial interst. He's just passionate about the MaX-Vac, and that was his opinion. Respect that. The original plan, some 7 months ago, TomdW was going to sell some MVs on Ebay, but that has ceased.

I could have many people start talking negatively about your product, but I don't as we both seem to have a genuine concern toward our hobby.

This statement bothers me. I had more respect for you Monkey, we both came from the same place and learned from one another. I have never mentioned the VH in negative light (do a search on any board, you have my "word"). To draw up controversy from an opinion of a MV user is ridiculous and I want no part of that. MV users are free to speak their mind, I've had a difficult time trying to find negative experiences about the MV, to discourage a positive view of the product is not the way it is, wrong board. Do I make public statements about those that trash MyNewSize at T's? Statements along the lines as, Mr gay: "buy from monkeybar he's a better business man."? How is this different? My only place is to clarify misconceptions and "propaganda" about the MaX-Vac. As you have done here, leave it at that.

I would appreciate if you would show the same respect I have for VH users and that is: Who the fuck cares about the VH users (politically, personally), they use their product, I could care either way. Take care your own, as I have. M\/ users, I'm here for you anytime.


and it's,
~BTC

 

[monkeybar]

Hey monkeybar, when is the Vacu-Extender head piece for the AutoExtender coming out? Its just my penis keeps slipping out of the original autoextender head piece when i try to move around, also, any ideas of what the price will be? Also, how long can you wear it for?

Thanks in advance

It will come out at same time as complete VacExtender - 3rd week. I'm currently wearing it for 2 hours at a time as an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and up to 3 hours as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] device around the waist.

 

[monkeybar]

thats a lot of mumbo jumbo for a product you altered (ripped off) from stretch system 2000 and the grips gflex sleeve [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] (wich is also marketed as a pe device thats vacuum based)!
plus your aytoexster was a total ripoff of the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]jes[/words] and bib jeeeeez!!!!!

your gonna get lawyers and this n that involved when the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]jes[/words] is a patent item and you have a version out with a modified head.... funny!

why waste 12 gs on patents when someone can just change a minor detail and market those products themselves?

Just in case, its a utility patent and no [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JEs[/words] is not patented.

 

[monkeybar]

Monkey,

TomdW doesn't sell M/s and has no commercial interst. He's just passionate about the MaX-Vac, and that was his opinion. Respect that. The original plan, some 7 months ago, TomdW was going to sell some MVs on Ebay, but that has ceased.


This statement bothers me. I had more respect for you Monkey, we both came from the same place and learned from one another. I have never mentioned the VH in negative light (do a search on any board, you have my "word"). To draw up controversy from an opinion of a MV user is ridiculous and I want no part of that. MV users are free to speak their mind, I've had a difficult time trying to find negative experiences about the MV, to discourage a positive view of the product is not the way it is, wrong board. Do I make public statements about those that trash MyNewSize at T's? Statements along the lines as, Mr gay: "buy from monkeybar he's a better business man."? How is this different? My only place is to clarify misconceptions and "propaganda" about the MaX-Vac. As you have done here, leave it at that.

I would appreciate if you would show the same respect I have for VH users and that is: Who the fuck cares about the VH users (politically, personally), they use their product, I could care either way. Take care your own, as I have. M\/ users, I'm here for you anytime.


and it's,
~BTC