The best way to predict the future is to create it .

Longth;665681 said:
Ligament pain is generally considered a sign of strong effort. Could imply a looseness that means that particular area is more malleable. If it gets worse though, well, you know.

Have you considered using a different attachment, mod, or wrapping to turn the 30 minute sets into significantly longer ones? I've read good things about the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] and the Velcro mod. I know [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] are kinda way uncomfortable between the pinches and circulation problems, but longer sets are definitely preferable to shorter ones. At least, according to my experience and a ton of advice given to me to get me to try it.
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I listened your advice today . The extender routine had a change and I was pretty pleased about the result of today .
 
Week 4 / Day 1
Here we are .. in the 4th week . I started this week in force . I did 2 sets [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes and 2 sets x 1 hour with the extender . The pain in the lig is still here and I started to like it . Also I did 2 sets x 5 minutes at the beginning and the end , 2 sets x 10 minutes with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] .
 
Shinto Kayden;665748 said:
Week 4 / Day 1
Here we are .. in the 4th week . I started this week in force . I did 2 sets [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes and 2 sets x 1 hour with the extender . The pain in the lig is still here and I started to like it . Also I did 2 sets x 5 minutes at the beginning and the end , 2 sets x 10 minutes with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] .
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Sounds like you have it down to a methodical process and that's a great way to be with all this.

The one thing way too many folks overlook is the kegel exercise. I haven't read about you doing them, but they are so helpful with eq and have a strange habit of being present with a lot of big gainers. All I know is I've made it to the point of being able to reverse kegel through an orgasm and literally just continue having sex. It just offers so much more control and really makes it so your erections are consistently 100%.
 
Longth;665750 said:
Sounds like you have it down to a methodical process and that's a great way to be with all this.

The one thing way too many folks overlook is the kegel exercise. I haven't read about you doing them, but they are so helpful with eq and have a strange habit of being present with a lot of big gainers. All I know is I've made it to the point of being able to reverse kegel through an orgasm and literally just continue having sex. It just offers so much more control and really makes it so your erections are consistently 100%.
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Well .. I do kegels from time to time but not as I want to . However your post motivated me and now I will do kegels every day . I thought my P.C. muscle is stronger but is not as I expected .
 
Week 4 / Day 2
Today I got a pretty bad cold and couldn't do anything . I will stay in bed and I got some chicken soup and tea .

Week 4 / Day 3
Today I feel a little bit better , but not by much . But I can't let a cold to put me down so I did 1 set x 1 hour and 2 sets [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes with the extender followed with 30 minutes with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] ( 2 sets x 5 and 2 x 10 ) . Thank to Longth , I will add kegels every day from now on . So I did 50 kegels x 1 second as warm up , 25 kegels x 3 seconds and 15 kegels x 5 seconds ( looks like my P.C. muscle is a little bit weak ) . After I finished the kegels , my P.C. muscle was on fire . I felt " the pump " ( I mean that I felt my pulse inside the muscle for quite a while )
 
Yea. That's a pretty low volume of kegels to get such a strong reaction. I was literally doing thousands a day when I was training length a few months back. Actually started losing a lot of fat in the area. Kinda a strange way to lose weight. Lol

Keep at it long enough and you'll see some serious benefits. It's also been said that a kegel workout to exhaustion fatigues the pelvic floor muscles, which theoretically helps make a length routine more productive. I am guessing it is helpful because I didn't gain anything until I started doing tons of kegels.
 
Longth;666130 said:
Yea. That's a pretty low volume of kegels to get such a strong reaction. I was literally doing thousands a day when I was training length a few months back.
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I am the same way, thousands of Kegels a day. Why not? Your building strength and endurance which will benefit you PE big time.
 
Longth;666130 said:
Yea. That's a pretty low volume of kegels to get such a strong reaction. I was literally doing thousands a day.
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How? Did you rapid fire a few hundred then hold one stronger kegel or just kind of wing it?
 
Do you guys do kegels very fast?Or hold it?I usually hold about 2-3 seconds per rep.
 
ChilDsh;666345 said:
Do you guys do kegels very fast?Or hold it?I usually hold about 2-3 seconds per rep.
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I go very quickly like maybe 1 per second. I just keep doing them and eventually I forget I am doing them. I do hold long Kegels a few time a day, maybe hold for 5 minutes but mostly quick Kegels. I go all day and if I am getting one in every second and I am awake for 10 hours that would add up to about 6000 Kegels a day.
 
ChilDsh;666345 said:
Do you guys do kegels very fast?Or hold it?I usually hold about 2-3 seconds per rep.
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It's just like weight training really. Fast ones will tone, hard ones will strengthen. The two main points are strengthening and improving your awareness of how it works. I think harder faster ones are a good default. Quick ones will help you hit it more accurately. Super hard long ones are one method of beating an orgasm back. Specifically a long hard kegel followed by a reverse kegel for a few seconds.

If you want one size fits all though short but hard kegels are good. But they all have uses.
 
This god damn flu .

Week 4 / Day 4
Length Day . I don't feel very well , so I did just 4 sets with the extender [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 40[/words] minutes , nothing else .

Week 4 / Day 5
I raised the level a little bit . I did 3 hours with the extender ( 2 x 1 hour / 2 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes ) combined with 3 sets x 10 minutes with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] . 20 minutes edge and kegels ( 25 x 1 second / 20 x 3 seconds / 15 x 5 seconds / 5 x 7 seconds )

Week 4 / Day 6
Rough day . Coulnd't do a thing today , just stayed in bed .
 
I think all kegels tone, and to strengthen you need to do something like 'towel raises'. I wish I was as good at edging like you so I could do the "DLD push". I did it one time, but haven't practiced ejaculation control very much lately.

The other time I rapid fired a few hundred, and then held it which is when my muscle was burning real good.
 
Flu sucks, I applaud you training through it!
 
templnite;666899 said:
I think all kegels tone, and to strengthen you need to do something like 'towel raises'. I wish I was as good at edging like you so I could do the "DLD push". I did it one time, but haven't practiced ejaculation control very much lately.

The other time I rapid fired a few hundred, and then held it which is when my muscle was burning real good.
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I know about the towel raises , a friend told me about that long time ago but I thought it was a joke . At the moment I struggle with 5 reps I think , and then I lose the erection . About the edging , it was pretty rought when I first started . 5 - 7 minutes of edging and I give up and bust . But with practice I manage to last a lot longer .. damn , I avanced a lot . My best time spend edging was 1 hour and 10~ minutes . I didn't had a sex life before I started edging but now , I want for the girl to finish and then I finish . I had 2 straight hours sex without a break but I have to say , I lost some sensivity from my glans so this counts as well . This chick , that I fighted for ( she had some sex before ) she told me that she didn't saw someone who can last longer than her and I'm lucky . But she doesn't know a thing about the amount of work I submitted to achieve this stick :blush:
 
doublelongdaddy;666944 said:
Flu sucks, I applaud you training through it!
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Indeed , flu sucks but I can't give up on my dream for this little thing called flu damn . I may not be able to give my 100% but hell I will still give all I have inside me even with this flu .
 
Week 4 / Day 7
Lenght Day . With this flu .. god this is so frustrating . Only 3 sets with the extender ( 1 set x 1 hour / 2 sets [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes ) .

Week 5 / Day 1
Today , even with this flu I feel pretty satisfied . I did 2.5 hours with the extender ( 1 set x 1 hour / 2 sets [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes / 2 sets x 15 minutes with 2 more rods than usual ) and the pain in the lig is here again , and this pain delights me . Next thing was [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] but only 20 minutes .. ( 2 sets x 5 minutes / 1 set x 10 minutes ) . No edge , only some fast kegels .
 
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Shinto Kayden;667005 said:
Week 4 / Day 7
Lenght Day . With this flu .. god this is so frustrating . Only 3 sets with the extender ( 1 set x 1 hour / 2 sets [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes ) .

Week 5 / Day 1
Today , even with this flu I feel pretty satisfied . I did 2.5 hours with the extender ( 1 set x 1 hour / 2 sets [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes / 2 sets x 15 minutes with 2 more rods than usual ) and the pain in the lig is here again , and this pain delights me . Next thing was [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] but only 20 minutes .. ( 2 sets x 5 minutes / 1 set x 10 minutes ) . No edge , only some fast kegels .
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Why not just take a couple days to rest? This flu sounds like it is kicking your ass. Remember to drink a fuck load of water, as much as you can handle, the solution to pollution is dilution! And the flu is certainly a pollutant!
 
doublelongdaddy;667202 said:
Why not just take a couple days to rest? This flu sounds like it is kicking your ass. Remember to drink a fuck load of water, as much as you can handle, the solution to pollution is dilution! And the flu is certainly a pollutant!
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I feel pretty frustrated if I take some days off for a flu . I builded a life style around P.E. I drink tons of tea but god .. I guess I will take some medication because I don't have any chance with tea and chicken soup .
 
Week 5 / Day 2
Length Day . 3 sets with the extender ( 1 set x 1 hour / 1 set [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 40[/words] minutes / 1 set [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 20[/words] minutes ) . No kegel , no edge for me this week , I know kegels are very important but I am not able to focus on my repetitions ( I'm talking about the squeeze ) as much as I want to .

Week 5 / Day 3
I have to step up here , even tho it's just a flu . 4 sets with the extender ( 2 sets x 1 hour / 1 set [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes / 2 sets x 15 minutes with 2 additional rods ) . 3 sets with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] ( 2 sets x 5 minutes / 1 set x 10 minutes ) .

Week 5 / Day 4
Same as yesterday , 4 sets with the extender ( 2 sets x 1 hour / 1 set [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes / 2 sets x 15 minutes with 2 additional rods ) . 3 sets with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] ( 2 sets x 5 minutes / 1 set x 10 minutes ) .
 
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Shinto Kayden;667665 said:
I feel pretty frustrated if I take some days off for a flu . I builded a life style around P.E. I drink tons of tea but god .. I guess I will take some medication because I don't have any chance with tea and chicken soup .
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Hope you feel better and I am amazed at your dedication, this is going to go a long way! The past 4 days look excellent!
 
doublelongdaddy;668142 said:
Hope you feel better and I am amazed at your dedication, this is going to go a long way! The past 4 days look excellent!
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You know what they say,no pain no gain...one lousy flu is not going to stop us from doing PE :) .
 
Week 5 / Day 5
Lenght Day . 4 sets with the extender ( 2 sets x 1 hour / 2 sets x 15 minutes with 2 additional rods ) . I feel pretty comfortable with these 2 additional rods , I think the lig just stretched . Before I had some troubles when I added these 2 rods , but now it's all good . I upgraded the kegels game ( 25 kegels x 4 sets x 1 second / 15 kegels x 4 sets x 3 seconds / 10 kegels x 3 sets x 5 seconds ) . And now I add weight on my penis for kegels . I treat the PC muscle same way as other muscles , to make it stronger . I started with 200 grams , it's not a heavy weight but hey .. we all start small .

Week 5 / Day 6
Since I did this " Lenght Day " , I tried bathmath day . But it's not as satisfying as I hoped it will be . 4 sets with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] ( 2 x 5 minutes as warm up and warm down / 2 x 10 minutes ) . Kegels with weights same as yesterday .

Week 5 / Day 7
Lenght Day . 4 sets with the extender ( 2 sets x 1 hour / 2 sets [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 20[/words] minutes with 2 additional rods ) . Kegels with weights again and upgraded the edge game . Instead of 1 hour edge , now I am at 10 minutes ( so I start edging , and I am going to the point where I feel the cum wants to come out , I squeeze the PC muscle as hard as I can and I keep edging for 10 minutes with that cumming sensation . If there is someone who did this before , I salute you . I aim for 30 minutes in the future with this sensation . )
 
Shinto Kayden;668258 said:
so I start edging , and I am going to the point where I feel the cum wants to come out , I squeeze the PC muscle as hard as I can and I keep edging for 10 minutes with that cumming sensation . If there is someone who did this before , I salute you . I aim for 30 minutes in the future with this sensation . )
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Hey I've never tried that do you actually ejaculate or are you able to suppress that?
 
templnite;668312 said:
Hey I've never tried that do you actually ejaculate or are you able to suppress that?
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You should try it , atleast to see if it does work for you . So about the ejaculation part , I don't ejaculate at all . When I feel the " wave " coming , I squeeze the PC muscle as hard as I can and hold it there . And with that feeling when the " wave " it's about to come out , I keep going with that sensation for 10 minutes and then I stop .
 
I was practicing this, but not too deeply because I didn't want to ruin my session:blush:. I have noticed that I can somewhat squeeze the ejaculation away, but still don't get any sensation<:(. That's ok because it still helps me train, thanks for the tips dude you're awesome!
 
templnite;668521 said:
I was practicing this, but not too deeply because I didn't want to ruin my session:blush:. I have noticed that I can somewhat squeeze the ejaculation away, but still don't get any sensation<:(. That's ok because it still helps me train, thanks for the tips dude you're awesome!
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It actually doesn't matter as long as you don't rage quit the session. Just keep ballooning until arousal returns and get back in where you left off.

The objective is to actually ride that wave as long as you can. I can do that for hours now due to conditioning. Almost like surfing only with sensations. Mixing that with constant kegeling keeps you at that 110% erection. The better you get at it the more time you can spend at that super sized state.

Mix that with a cock ring and it's hard to imagine not gaining. Do a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] first and it's even more difficult to think you'd be gainless. Maybe even try a few jelqs when you're maxed out super slowly and lightly. That's pretty much my routine every day. It's not easy at all, and I actually sweat while I'm doing it. So intense it's kinda badass, and it feels pretty good compared to a lot of the other girth stuff out there

Each step takes a while to get conditioned for though. Would be pretty dangerous to just hop into all that. A goal of 30 minutes is a great start though, I'd say. I started out because pornos were two hours long and I used to feel kinda jipped if I only saw part of one scene. Kinda funny, but true.
 
Idk man I'm not really a fan of adult entertainment I lose interest really quick. Ill be fukin happy if my sessions were always just thirty minutes XD
 
templnite;669371 said:
Idk man I'm not really a fan of adult entertainment I lose interest really quick. Ill be fukin happy if my sessions were always just thirty minutes XD
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Sigh, yea. I have 2 that are about 40 and 2 that take like 80. Plus 2 hours of kegels. Only sucks if it doesn't work right?

Shinto, you out of flu time yet or are you doing manuals in the hospital?
 
templnite;669371 said:
Idk man I'm not really a fan of adult entertainment I lose interest really quick. Ill be fukin happy if my sessions were always just thirty minutes XD
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Same here! I loose complete interest and that is my only sexual outlet. I need to stick with soft, soft core material and go no further, this is where desensitization happens and interest wains.
 
Longth;669444 said:
Sigh, yea. I have 2 that are about 40 and 2 that take like 80. Plus 2 hours of kegels. Only sucks if it doesn't work right?

Shinto, you out of flu time yet or are you doing manuals in the hospital?
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I'm here finally , ready to recover the time I lost .
 
Week 6 / Day 1 - 7
With only 2 days off , because I had a pretty bad flu , this week for me was Lenght Week . I will focus more on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] sessions , kegels and edge and I will take some time off from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] . Here is my daily routine for week 6 : 4 sets with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] ( 2 sets x 1 hour / 2 sets [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes ) , edge with that amazing feeling and kegels with 200 grams .
 
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Week 7 / Day 1
I'm back in business boys . First day of week 7 , solid day . 4 sets with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] ( 2 sets x 1 hour / 2 sets [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes with additional rods ) , 4 sets with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] ( 4 sets x 5 minutes with max pressure ) . Kegels with 250 grams and edge 20 minutes before I go to bed . No more Maca , Arginine , Red Ginseng for me . I will be 1 month on tribulus + zinc and I will keep taking the omega 3 fish oil .
 
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I took tribulus the other month, but it was sort of hit or miss with regard to morning erection, acne (noticed this one like the third day lol), don't think there was better strength (maybe I'm just a phat phuuk :)). I hope you rip out lots of squats at the gym man.
 
templnite;669676 said:
I took tribulus the other month, but it was sort of hit or miss with regard to morning erection, acne (noticed this one like the third day lol), don't think there was better strength (maybe I'm just a phat phuuk :)). I hope you rip out lots of squats at the gym man.
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Well ... I read about tribulus and I told myself I should try it , atleast for a month and see if there is any improvement . And yes , I do squats but since you mentioned I was thinking , what if I do squts and then I jump right after squats in [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for girth , since squats will increase the blood flow in peliv area . It might be a stupid ideea but you never know .
 
Shinto Kayden;669683 said:
Well ... I read about tribulus and I told myself I should try it , atleast for a month and see if there is any improvement . And yes , I do squats but since you mentioned I was thinking , what if I do squts and then I jump right after squats in [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for girth , since squats will increase the blood flow in peliv area . It might be a stupid ideea but you never know .
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Glad to see you back. The fact you only took 2 days off through a week of the flu is pretty good stuff. I've literally quit entirely more than once over an illness. Kudos for seeing it through.

There's not enough solid knowledge about pe to say an idea is smart or dumb at this point. Anything is worth a shot considering how little research has actually been done. Just let us know how any new ideas work out. I've done plenty of experiments on me in my pe experience. It's a, "the more the merrier.", kind of thing.
 
Longth;669711 said:
Glad to see you back. The fact you only took 2 days off through a week of the flu is pretty good stuff. I've literally quit entirely more than once over an illness. Kudos for seeing it through.
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I agree, it shows extreme dedication. The biggest part of making your penis bigger is the ability to stay consistent, progressive and informed and I can see Shinto has that.
 
Squats, bench press, and deadlift are the most testosterone producing exercises. This will surely bring more life to your cock. Bathmates after training sound good too main just dial in the correct amount of squats so you are at peak test secretion when you PE :blush:
 
templnite;669735 said:
Squats, bench press, and deadlift are the most testosterone producing exercises. This will surely bring more life to your cock. Bathmates after training sound good too main just dial in the correct amount of squats so you are at peak test secretion when you PE :blush:
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But that is soooooo much work! :) If I do not start to train I am going to lose all the wrong weight, need to get inspired!
 
doublelongdaddy;669951 said:
But that is soooooo much work! :) If I do not start to train I am going to lose all the wrong weight, need to get inspired!
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No man you only need like fifteen reps for power lifting :blush:. It gives a really fun rush too
 
doublelongdaddy;669721 said:
I agree, it shows extreme dedication. The biggest part of making your penis bigger is the ability to stay consistent, progressive and informed and I can see Shinto has that.
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quite true otherwise things get harder n confusing,PE is not only stretching pulling squeezing etc.n yeah we have to stay informed n open to learn!
 
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Week 7 / Day 2
Length Day . 4 sets with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] ( 2 sets x 1 hour / 2 sets [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes ) and the pain in the lig is here again . Did my kegels routine and edge . About the squats and tribulus , I don't think one month will be enough to see any result but after 2 days of taking 500 mg of tribulus and 15 mg of zinc I have random erections more than usual . I hope it's not a placebo effect , but god .. popping erections everywhere now lol .
 
Shinto Kayden;670026 said:
Week 7 / Day 2
Length Day . 4 sets with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] ( 2 sets x 1 hour / 2 sets [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes ) and the pain in the lig is here again . Did my kegels routine and edge . About the squats and tribulus , I don't think one month will be enough to see any result but after 2 days of taking 500 mg of tribulus and 15 mg of zinc I have random erections more than usual . I hope it's not a placebo effect , but god .. popping erections everywhere now lol .
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That is an excellent sign, erections throughout the day is showing strength in your PC Muscles. I would not put a time limit on gains either, you may make an inch gain in a month, it has happened before.
 
Shinto Kayden;670026 said:
. About the squats and tribulus , I don't think one month will be enough to see any result but after 2 days of taking 500 mg of tribulus and 15 mg of zinc I have random erections more than usual . I hope it's not a placebo effect , but god .. popping erections everywhere now lol .
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I heard zinc is good for erections, but I think you need to cycle trib as with most herbs because the effect starts to wane
 
Prediction: Every Brother will make a half inch gain in length in the next 2 months. Please do not let me down:)
 
doublelongdaddy;670307 said:
Prediction: Every Brother will make a half inch gain in length in the next 2 months. Please do not let me down:)
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Sure why not 3 months we gain an inch NBPEL n 1.5 inches BPEL sounds reasonable!!
 
doublelongdaddy;670091 said:
That is an excellent sign, erections throughout the day is showing strength in your PC Muscles. I would not put a time limit on gains either, you may make an inch gain in a month, it has happened before.
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Well , maybe it's a excellent sign but I have alteast 9 erections a day .. LOL . And I hope god will hear you , I don't mind adding a half a inch on me .

doublelongdaddy;670307 said:
Prediction: Every Brother will make a half inch gain in length in the next 2 months. Please do not let me down:)
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I will do my best and hope I will make you proud .
 
Week 7 / Day 3 - 5
Length Day . 4 sets with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] ( 1 set x 1 hour / 1 set [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes & 2 sets x 15 minutes with additional rods ) . Kegels and edge as always . I will focus a lot on stretching , I want that 21 as soon as possible .
 
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