Sometimes i don't believe

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Hello! Sometimes i don' trust penis enlargement and always have those thoughts randomly. Especially when it comes to stretching for length. Somehow i don't think it's 100% legit.

I imagine the skin creeps is making what we think is length gains. But it really isn't legit length gains. Can someone help me solve this pussle. Doesn't matter if i look stupid. Just want a logical reasonable explanation i can trust.

Read about my thoughts here: https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-enlargement-forum/93343-guys-can-you-do-experiment-me.html
 
your signature says you have grown a ton, people who get phalloplasty surgery dont usually gain as much as you have.
what exactly is your issue? lol
 
habban;674911 said:
Hello! Sometimes i don' trust penis enlargement and always have those thoughts randomly. Especially when it comes to stretching for length. Somehow i don't think it's 100% legit.

I imagine the skin creeps is making what we think is length gains. But it really isn't legit length gains. Can someone help me solve this pussle. Doesn't matter if i look stupid. Just want a logical reasonable explanation i can trust.

Read about my thoughts here: https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-enlargement-forum/93343-guys-can-you-do-experiment-me.html
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Skin creeps?

If you measure bpel, and you get a higher number than you had before, and you make sure your eq is 100% every time, there is no other explanation than your bpel has increased.

So... I guess if you're really desperate to disprove your own length gains you can make something up that makes sense in your mind, but I really don't get what you're implying.
 
Yes i know my penis is longer now than before PEGym. I trust that. But that is not the thing. I'm more concerned about the scrotal skin and pubic skin getting borrowed or like a sacrifice for a longer penis. I don't like that idea much. It feels like someday i will just feel discomfort when penetrating as my shaft will be sensitive due to being stubble because of hair folicles on the shaft. This should give the girl you penetrate an odd and negative sensation and make your penis look ugly. Read more properly on what i post in that thread please :)

Maybe i just suck at explaining!
 
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He makes a good point. I've often wondered if at the end of all this, if I was going to end up with a pile of skin and almost no gains. Then I thought that I'll just go get the extra skin cut off eventually, so I'll just have to deal with weird looking junk when I get there. Then I think that maybe the gains will fill in where the skin creeps occur. I wonder what DLD's experience has been with this.
 
MoreThanLuck;674920 said:
He makes a good point. I've often wondered if at the end of all this, if I was going to end up with a pile of skin and almost no gains. Then I thought that I'll just go get the extra skin cut off eventually, so I'll just have to deal with weird looking junk when I get there. Then I think that maybe the gains will fill in where the skin creeps occur. I wonder what DLD's experience has been with this.
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Just use a cock ring when you fuck. The extra beef should be enough to make things look fairly normal, albeit red and veiny
 
That's why you need to aim for 7" girth :) all that skin will be filled up
 
That's why i'm seriously thinking about skipping many stretch exercises to prevent further skin creeps. And instead focus on girth and [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] exercises. I think those will yield length aswell anyway. And those length gains will probably be slower but more "the real deal" if you ask me.
 
Longth;674922 said:
Just use a cock ring when you fuck. The extra beef should be enough to make things look fairly normal, albeit red and veiny
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But what if you don't want to feel like you have to use any rings or other aids on your penis to perform at your best or look normal? What if you are young and are going for hook ups? Would look odd and funny to hear the rumours about the guy that has to use a cock ring when he fucks.
 
Yeah what longth said, but you need a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] :blush:. On cockrings, i would probably use them for sex since its like a mini-session that way. I don't care what they say about me XD, if god knows let the world know too
 
I updated the thread with another thing regarding hanging. Why base gains are easy attainable with hanging and such. If i connect everything to my theory in the first post. What do you think?

I'm not accusing penis enlargement for not being real. I'm just not 100% sure everything regarding length gains and exercises is perfectly legit or the best way to go if you want a good looking penis. If we talk about DLD. Awesome length gains. He claims to be holding his penis with a different grip, preventing the skin creeps. But i don't remember if he mentioned that he actually has a lot of skin growing up his whole shaft? Don't remember.
 
templnite;674932 said:
Yeah what longth said, but you need a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] :blush:. On cockrings, i would probably use them for sex since its like a mini-session that way. I don't care what they say about me XD, if god knows let the world know too
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Yep, seriously starting to think [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is the way to go. As [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] both provides larger penis AND more foreskin that can be useable. And the foreskin attained from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] isn't skin borrowed from the scrotal or pubic area right? It's just nice smooth regular shaft skin, correct?
 
habban;674934 said:
Yep, seriously starting to think [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is the way to go. As [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] both provides larger penis AND more foreskin that can be useable. And the foreskin attained from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] isn't skin borrowed from the scrotal or pubic area right? It's just nice smooth regular shaft skin, correct?
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The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] rocks! It is better to seek skin from the shaft than the scrotum because gaining skin from the sac will end up being Turkey Neck. It is always best to push as much of the scrotum skin back when pumping. Proper skin stretch is very easy, simply grip at the base of your erect penis and drag as much skin up the shaft and over the head possible, hold this stretch for 60 second and repeat 5x. This will bring skin gains very quickly without causing any TN.
 
Yeah bro the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] will provide a good looking penis by filling up the extra skin, and giving your cock a better overall shape.
 
doublelongdaddy;674935 said:
The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] rocks! It is better to seek skin from the shaft than the scrotum because gaining skin from the sac will end up being Turkey Neck. It is always best to push as much of the scrotum skin back when pumping. Proper skin stretch is very easy, simply grip at the base of your erect penis and drag as much skin up the shaft and over the head possible, hold this stretch for 60 second and repeat 5x. This will bring skin gains very quickly without causing any TN.
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Nice tips, will defenitly try out the skin stretch you provided! I have a big gap in my opinion between flaccid and erect size. When i'm flaccid i would think: "I don't need more skin" And when i'm erect my skin doesn't cover the glans. I think i remember i had more skin covering my erect penis and glans before PE. Could this mean my shaft skin isn't stretched enough to compensate my new penis size? And instead my penis have borrowed scrotal/pubic skin. If not, it only has to do with bad performing of the exercises perhaps, or maybe both. Anyhow, should i still keep doing the Testicle Health Massage to prevent Turkey neck aswell? :)

Thanks!
 
Yeah continue the testicle health, and also note the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] will expand your shaft so much you'll even notice its skin stretching
 
Sounds interesting! :) Have any of you seen any length gains with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] use? Or do you guys know any exercise that will target length gains without having to stretch your penis? Would also be cool to know.
 
It will give you some length, but since it gives so much girth it doesn't show immediately even though its there
 
habban;674911 said:
Hello! Sometimes i don' trust penis enlargement and always have those thoughts randomly. Especially when it comes to stretching for length. Somehow i don't think it's 100% legit.

I imagine the skin creeps is making what we think is length gains. But it really isn't legit length gains. Can someone help me solve this pussle. Doesn't matter if i look stupid. Just want a logical reasonable explanation i can trust.

Read about my thoughts here: https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-enlargement-forum/93343-guys-can-you-do-experiment-me.html
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Link doesnt work for me btw.

What is "skin creeps"?
 
kyomoto;675002 said:
Link doesnt work for me btw.

What is "skin creeps"?
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And why are you stretching skin at all? You pull the glans so you stretch the inside. The skin shouldn't be involved unless you're bundling and that's still not supposed to be the focal point.
 
habban;674911 said:
Hello! Sometimes i don' trust penis enlargement and always have those thoughts randomly. Especially when it comes to stretching for length. Somehow i don't think it's 100% legit.

I imagine the skin creeps is making what we think is length gains. But it really isn't legit length gains. Can someone help me solve this pussle. Doesn't matter if i look stupid. Just want a logical reasonable explanation i can trust.

Read about my thoughts here: https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-enlargement-forum/93343-guys-can-you-do-experiment-me.html
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PE is a simple process and you can understand it very easily,using science.Go and read and do a bit of research on tissue and you will see how legit PE is.The same tissue we find in your earlobe for exemple,it's found in the penis too.Constatenly stretching your dick will elongated the tissue and the cells,making them longer.It's very simple.Just do a bit of research.
 
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habban;674949 said:
Nice tips, will defenitly try out the skin stretch you provided! I have a big gap in my opinion between flaccid and erect size. When i'm flaccid i would think: "I don't need more skin" And when i'm erect my skin doesn't cover the glans. I think i remember i had more skin covering my erect penis and glans before PE. Could this mean my shaft skin isn't stretched enough to compensate my new penis size? And instead my penis have borrowed scrotal/pubic skin. If not, it only has to do with bad performing of the exercises perhaps, or maybe both. Anyhow, should i still keep doing the Testicle Health Massage to prevent Turkey neck aswell? :)

Thanks!
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Many guys worry about skin stretch but for most men it happens naturally as the penis becomes bigger. The easiest thing to enlarge is skin. The important part of skin stretch goes to the scrotum and not up the shaft. The Testicle Health Massage and Stretch help to fight Turkey Neck by displacing the skin from the shaft to the scrotum. Also, if you have seen any of the videos in the pro-section, you will notice that on every manual stretch I anchor one hand at the base holding all skin back as I stretch with the other hand. It is also a good idea to follow Simyan as he is making some very big changes in TN.
 
Longth;675048 said:
And why are you stretching skin at all? You pull the glans so you stretch the inside. The skin shouldn't be involved unless you're bundling and that's still not supposed to be the focal point.
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Talking to me or habban?

And it sounds as if he is stretching his skin, habban is misinterpreting skin stretching size for real size. Do not do that! If we measure from 5.0" BPEL to 7.0" BPEL explain those gains. How can skin make your dick measure that much more?
 
kyomoto;675161 said:
Talking to me or habban?

And it sounds as if he is stretching his skin, habban is misinterpreting skin stretching size for real size. Do not do that! If we measure from 5.0" BPEL to 7.0" BPEL explain those gains. How can skin make your dick measure that much more?
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Habban. Just being matter of fact. When you stretch by the glans you clearly feel the internal structure beneath the skin being stretched. If he's pulling his skin he's obviously going to have a problem with extra skin. Bundles especially need a pull at the glans or you're going to have a pug dick.
 
There is definitely a different feeling when stretching skin compared to stretching the penis. Penile stretching will need intensity to cause stretch and this is felt throughout the shaft and down into the ligaments and into the body. When stretching are it is all skin stretch the stretch will be very light and there will be no pull on the actual penis.
 
hahaha sometimes i dont believe in PE either at all i get fucking confused n lost LOL,the funny thing is that i use my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] everyday 20 25 mins everyday sometimes a bit more..:O

yeah is hard to believe when everything you have tried fails most of the time LOL...
 
shortdick;675241 said:
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yeah is hard to believe when everything you have tried fails most of the time LOL...
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I had all these doubts at one time. You have to use your gains as proof. Once you've seen the light, you can never go back.
 
Longth;675255 said:
I had all these doubts at one time. You have to use your gains as proof. Once you've seen the light, you can never go back.
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yeah its time to use my gains n slay pussy,whit my new D yeah i definitely need to see the light!!!!
 
shortdick;675259 said:
yeah its time to use my gains n slay pussy,whit my new D yeah i definitely need to see the light!!!!
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Didn't you get to 7 a few months ago?

That sounds pretty lighty to me.
 
i was 7 BPEL like six months ago now when i measure im 7.25.....besides im not a fat person but i have a fat pad a normal one,maybe theres like half an inch hidden there maybe more.

The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] is bringing hope to my life need to spend 35 to 40 mins using is quite intense but i think i can get a surreal surprise!!!
 
Longth;675197 said:
Habban. Just being matter of fact. When you stretch by the glans you clearly feel the internal structure beneath the skin being stretched. If he's pulling his skin he's obviously going to have a problem with extra skin. Bundles especially need a pull at the glans or you're going to have a pug dick.
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Definitely, skin stretching feels like well skin stretching they're both very different and noticeable. They can't be confused.
 
ChilDsh;675061 said:
PE is a simple process and you can understand it very easily,using science.Go and read and do a bit of research on tissue and you will see how legit PE is.The same tissue we find in your earlobe for exemple,it's found in the penis too.Constatenly stretching your dick will elongated the tissue and the cells,making them longer.It's very simple.Just do a bit of research.
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Source? There is ZERO quantifiable evidence that PE works . No study shows this so you are just talking pseudo science.
 
deadwood187;675339 said:
Source? There is ZERO quantifiable evidence that PE works . No study shows this so you are just talking pseudo science.
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He's made gains.

What's your source to the contrary? Not making gains?
 
There's an article in TIME magazine and Forbes confirming [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] work via a number of studies by the way. That's as much as they've been willing to study so far. There are no studies that say pe doesn't work. Just big mouths on egos that have limited knowledge and zero experience.
 
deadwood187;675339 said:
Source? There is ZERO quantifiable evidence that PE works . No study shows this so you are just talking pseudo science.
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Longth;675341 said:
There's an article in TIME magazine and Forbes confirming [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] work via a number of studies by the way. That's as much as they've been willing to study so far. There are no studies that say pe doesn't work. Just big mouths on egos that have limited knowledge and zero experience.
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Longth is correct. The studies on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] can easily be found with a google search. Some are directly linked to PE companies but not all. So Deadwood that evidence that you say doesn't exist...does exist. It would be great if there were more studies available but I don't know if a legit manual PE or hanging PE study will ever be done. I doubt it though.
 
Like the way [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] doesn't work. I suppose everyone buying them buys them too small and winds up fighting [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] bites because they didn't get bigger. Or how, you know, they have the magic pe rulers and measuring tapes that magically shrink based on how delusional you are.

I started in a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words] with no bites. I'm up to an [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] with bites. Explain how my dick isn't bigger.
 
I think the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] can give you girth gains if you follow a good routine for a reasonable period of time you can get temporary gains whit the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words],

if you use it in a consistent way youd see permanent gains,have you tried the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] hardcore stretches?
 
shortdick;675349 said:
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if you use it in a consistent way youd see permanent gains,have you tried the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] hardcore stretches?
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Not for a long time. Wouldn't want to with the bite. Really don't want more length so much as I just want more of the 8.15 I have to be showing. If I could get like 7.75 of that to be visible I'd be happy as a pig in shit.

Just going to take a lot of work I probably should do anyway.
 
deadwood187;675339 said:
Source? There is ZERO quantifiable evidence that PE works . No study shows this so you are just talking pseudo science.
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So just because there is no scientific evidence you don't believe it?

It's sad people are so close minded with these things. How about this deadwood187. How about you test this. Test this whole PE process for 1 year.

It doesn't hurt to spend 30 minutes or 1 hour a day to test this. IF you're so critical about scientific evidence, test this yourself, record the data and see the results.

Make the conclusion yourself. You'll see whether it works or not. Go ahead. But wait...I'm pretty sure you don't want to test this in the first place because you don't believe it.

But why not? IT doesn't hurt to try now does it? There will always be an excuse for skeptics like this.
 
kyomoto;675362 said:
So just because there is no scientific evidence you don't believe it?

It's sad people are so close minded with these things. How about this deadwood187. How about you test this. Test this whole PE process for 1 year.

It doesn't hurt to spend 30 minutes or 1 hour a day to test this. IF you're so critical about scientific evidence, test this yourself, record the data and see the results.

Make the conclusion yourself. You'll see whether it works or not. Go ahead. But wait...I'm pretty sure you don't want to test this in the first place because you don't believe it.

But why not? IT doesn't hurt to try now does it? There will always be an excuse for skeptics like this.
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Dude there's been studies on extending. That's a proven matter of fact now. And with that you can begin to assert that all length work is entirely viable. There's no proof like that for girth yet, but you do a few months of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and squeezes and tell me what you find. :)

The guy who posted that did the infamous belligerent arrogant dismissal thing that's way too popular. It's not good for anyone to be that closed minded.
 
kyomoto;675362 said:
So just because there is no scientific evidence you don't believe it?

It's sad people are so close minded with these things. How about this deadwood187. How about you test this. Test this whole PE process for 1 year.

It doesn't hurt to spend 30 minutes or 1 hour a day to test this. IF you're so critical about scientific evidence, test this yourself, record the data and see the results.

Make the conclusion yourself. You'll see whether it works or not. Go ahead. But wait...I'm pretty sure you don't want to test this in the first place because you don't believe it.

But why not? IT doesn't hurt to try now does it? There will always be an excuse for skeptics like this.
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Notice my join date. I have tested it. I have tested about 20 devices diligently. Nothing works. It's all bullshit...but you already know that. The only thing that works in this "game" is Photoshop and pressing in a ruler so hard in the "after" pics it punctures your liver.
 
Longth;675341 said:
There's an article in TIME magazine and Forbes confirming [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] work via a number of studies by the way. That's as much as they've been willing to study so far. There are no studies that say pe doesn't work. Just big mouths on egos that have limited knowledge and zero experience.
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Link to those studies (you know performed by someone other than the people who sell the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]). I'll wait.
 
youknowme123321;675342 said:
Longth is correct. The studies on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] can easily be found with a google search. Some are directly linked to PE companies but not all. So Deadwood that evidence that you say doesn't exist...does exist. It would be great if there were more studies available but I don't know if a legit manual PE or hanging PE study will ever be done. I doubt it though.
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Not one done by reputable researchers. The onus on proof is on you. You just don't say "use google". You made a claim. Back it up.
 
deadwood187;675396 said:
Notice my join date. I have tested it. I have tested about 20 devices diligently. Nothing works. It's all bullshit...but you already know that. The only thing that works in this "game" is Photoshop and pressing in a ruler so hard in the "after" pics it punctures your liver.
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laughing my ass off, this thread is so retarded
 
Notice my join date. I have tested it. I have tested about 20 devices diligently. Nothing works. It's all bullshit...but you already know that. The only thing that works in this "game" is Photoshop and pressing in a ruler so hard in the "after" pics it punctures your liver.


20 devices wtf [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words], [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], PF, THE [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]POWER ASSIST[/words],those are the ones i know of,what are the other 15 left...

besides you are not forced to do things you dont believe in...
 
deadwood187;675399 said:
Not one done by reputable researchers. The onus on proof is on you. You just don't say "use google". You made a claim. Back it up.
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It's in TIME magazine. Forbes magazine. I've linked to them in the past. Do a search. Ain't nobody got time for that attitude.

You didn't test anything. You didn't commit to anything. You failed to be consistent. Your mindset is a giveaway. You don't rigorously stick to something you're convinced is bull shit. You half assed it at best. And that's not going to change with the ridiculous negativity you're selling. I've seen gains and can confirm the existence of methods to enlarge a penis, and that's not even news. Shit is ancient, literally. You are wrong, and I have proof. So do plenty of others. You want to make excuses for your own failure? Fine. Give up and go away, it's too hard for you. Or ask for help.

You are throwing a tantrum and trolling a forum at this point. You know full well that your attitude can affect new members going through the initial doubts. None of us have stuck to this shit for years with no damn evidence personally. Get real. Act like other people are dumb because you can't figure out what you're doing wrong. And you're going to keep arguing with people that are going to have the same attitude back. Whatever you say, buddy. I wonder if that's maybe a sign that you might just not have a clue.

Hmm
 
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