My dick is softer than EVER since the last 3 days and even though they probably stretch the same amount (probably, neve rreally measured carefully), they seem much more elastic when pulling...Is this a sign of length gain or what?
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is a SOFT ass dick early sign of growth?
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ALso the skin is way too bagged up, not loose, but just not smooth...probably because of stretching.
Max, not only the skin, but the whole penis is softt and spongy when I'm flaccid...and the skin is pretty messed up...rough and unequal on every sides..and when I get erection I see spots (little dot type of thing)..
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Sounds like you've overdone it a bit.
Either a little too much force or a little too long of a session; anything new in your routine?
Anything new in your life?
Anything from extra hours at work to fightin' off the flu that's kikkin' half the country's ass.
The little red dots are most likely burst capillaries, nothing major to worry about.
Rough skin, might just need a halfway decent moisturizer, Aveeno, Renew, something like that.
And as for the whole deflation effect; again, that could be due to any kind of added stress in your life.
Take a look at what y'do and how you do it and see if you might have added anything into the mix that you might not immediately recognize as a stress-factor.
And, everybody benefits from a little time off; yes you can overtrain your penis.
If you need a little extra recovery time, take it.
Maybe not a complete break, just a reduction in session length, intensity or both for a while.
Either a little too much force or a little too long of a session; anything new in your routine?
Anything new in your life?
Anything from extra hours at work to fightin' off the flu that's kikkin' half the country's ass.
The little red dots are most likely burst capillaries, nothing major to worry about.
Rough skin, might just need a halfway decent moisturizer, Aveeno, Renew, something like that.
And as for the whole deflation effect; again, that could be due to any kind of added stress in your life.
Take a look at what y'do and how you do it and see if you might have added anything into the mix that you might not immediately recognize as a stress-factor.
And, everybody benefits from a little time off; yes you can overtrain your penis.
If you need a little extra recovery time, take it.
Maybe not a complete break, just a reduction in session length, intensity or both for a while.
helpseeker;527354 said:Max, not only the skin, but the whole penis is softt when I'm flaccid...and the skin is pretty messed up...rough and unequal on every sides..and when I get erection I see spots (little dot type of thing)..
This is what they call the coveted "jelly state". This is the best state for your penis to be in for gaining, in my opinion, and also the opinion of logic. It's pliable, the tissues are soft, and everything is loose. That means good blood flow. Keep stretching and try to do what you have to to keep your penis in that magical "jelly state" as much as possible.
Max, I can't determine whether I overtrained or not..but notihng new in life..I have no stress at all except mental stress...I've been home for bout 3 weeks and will be for 2 more weeks..
I constantly think about having a 7 inch NBPenis EnlargementL penis in 6 months (of course better overnight but thats impossible) and all the things I'd do with my above average dick (I'm 5" erect, sometimes less by the way although when I measure sitting down I get 5.3", 5.5", or 5.7")..Hell, I even pray to god every night about this even though I am not even that much of a believer. So you know how important it is to me to get 7 inches ..
I do have to say I've been masturbating once or twice a day for the last 20-25 days..that's to not get wet while sleeping because I get often dreams in 2 days if I don't jack off..
so nothing's been new except I've started jelqing 4 days ago couple hrs after my length routine...I do the beginners routine a little differently.
I hold a strech for 1:30 minutes and just do 1 set (instead of doing 3 sets of 30 seconds)..Although sometmes I do less than 1:30 or slightly more than 1:30 because of gripping problems and etc.
I do about taking a break as I know I'm probably going off limits because sometimes say I try to hold a BTC stretch for 1:30 minutes and I can only hold it for 45 seconds, I'll try holding again for 1:30 minutes and not the other half...because I wanna gain as fast...I understand the risk of overtraining and injuring... thank you. and tell me what you think I should do...I'm a REAL IMPATIENT guy but I have no choice but to hold on to it...and surprisingly, this is the ONLY thing I'm holding on to for this long even without seeing proof of any gains on my dick...
Mike, I forgot to mention I don't have the jelly state the whole day...I don't usually have it while doing Penis Enlargement...usually after Penis Enlargement..Whaddaya say? should I wait for the jelly state and then do Penis Enlargement?
Thanks to both of you.
I constantly think about having a 7 inch NBPenis EnlargementL penis in 6 months (of course better overnight but thats impossible) and all the things I'd do with my above average dick (I'm 5" erect, sometimes less by the way although when I measure sitting down I get 5.3", 5.5", or 5.7")..Hell, I even pray to god every night about this even though I am not even that much of a believer. So you know how important it is to me to get 7 inches ..
I do have to say I've been masturbating once or twice a day for the last 20-25 days..that's to not get wet while sleeping because I get often dreams in 2 days if I don't jack off..
so nothing's been new except I've started jelqing 4 days ago couple hrs after my length routine...I do the beginners routine a little differently.
I hold a strech for 1:30 minutes and just do 1 set (instead of doing 3 sets of 30 seconds)..Although sometmes I do less than 1:30 or slightly more than 1:30 because of gripping problems and etc.
I do about taking a break as I know I'm probably going off limits because sometimes say I try to hold a BTC stretch for 1:30 minutes and I can only hold it for 45 seconds, I'll try holding again for 1:30 minutes and not the other half...because I wanna gain as fast...I understand the risk of overtraining and injuring... thank you. and tell me what you think I should do...I'm a REAL IMPATIENT guy but I have no choice but to hold on to it...and surprisingly, this is the ONLY thing I'm holding on to for this long even without seeing proof of any gains on my dick...
Mike, I forgot to mention I don't have the jelly state the whole day...I don't usually have it while doing Penis Enlargement...usually after Penis Enlargement..Whaddaya say? should I wait for the jelly state and then do Penis Enlargement?
Thanks to both of you.
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I've been at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] for about 7 years now, and this is the first time I've heard of the "jelly state"
Who is "they"?
And why is this particular state coveted?
Who is "they"?
And why is this particular state coveted?
MikeShlort;527366 said:This is what they call the coveted "jelly state". This is the best state for your penis to be in for gaining, in my opinion, and also the opinion of logic. It's pliable, the tissues are soft, and everything is loose. That means good blood flow. Keep stretching and try to do what you have to to keep your penis in that magical "jelly state" as much as possible.
Don't wait for anything, just do Penis Enlargement regularly.
More importantly, your mental attitude is shit and will hinder your gains. You have to let go and just accept the fact that you probably won't gain 2" in 6 months. I had the same mentality when I started Penis Enlargement. It caused me to over train, waste time and gain fuck all. I've let go of having to reach a certain size and my dick has never been bigger.
You have to be okay with the fact that you will need to do Penis Enlargement for years before you are as big as you want to get to. The beauty of it is, along the way, you will become more accepting of yourself. At first, you will notice improved EQ and some initial size. That will motivate you to continue. But you have to stick it out. Do your research, keep up on your exercise, don't skip days. Try to cut out jerking off if you can. It's my theory that daily masturbation causes the penis to be small and weak and may even hurt gains.
The main thing is you need to look at it like jogging, just a daily physical maintenance program that has the purpose of keeping you healthy and slowly making you stronger and able to endure more. In the case of Penis Enlargement, it is slowly making your penis stronger, larger and able to endure more.
Read my thread. I've done a lot of research and hopefully I've cleared up a lot of things you may be confused about. The most important thing to remember is I started with a similar mind state as you. I thought I needed 2" before I could even speak to a woman. Now I realize if I had the size I wanted, sex for me wouldn't be as good with the majority of girls. Just stick with it and stop being so hung up on the end result. Keep it as a goal and focus but remember that self improvement of any kind takes a daily effort and isn't noticed until you've been at it for long enough that you don't think about it or worry about it much at all anymore.
More importantly, your mental attitude is shit and will hinder your gains. You have to let go and just accept the fact that you probably won't gain 2" in 6 months. I had the same mentality when I started Penis Enlargement. It caused me to over train, waste time and gain fuck all. I've let go of having to reach a certain size and my dick has never been bigger.
You have to be okay with the fact that you will need to do Penis Enlargement for years before you are as big as you want to get to. The beauty of it is, along the way, you will become more accepting of yourself. At first, you will notice improved EQ and some initial size. That will motivate you to continue. But you have to stick it out. Do your research, keep up on your exercise, don't skip days. Try to cut out jerking off if you can. It's my theory that daily masturbation causes the penis to be small and weak and may even hurt gains.
The main thing is you need to look at it like jogging, just a daily physical maintenance program that has the purpose of keeping you healthy and slowly making you stronger and able to endure more. In the case of Penis Enlargement, it is slowly making your penis stronger, larger and able to endure more.
Read my thread. I've done a lot of research and hopefully I've cleared up a lot of things you may be confused about. The most important thing to remember is I started with a similar mind state as you. I thought I needed 2" before I could even speak to a woman. Now I realize if I had the size I wanted, sex for me wouldn't be as good with the majority of girls. Just stick with it and stop being so hung up on the end result. Keep it as a goal and focus but remember that self improvement of any kind takes a daily effort and isn't noticed until you've been at it for long enough that you don't think about it or worry about it much at all anymore.
MAXAMEYES;527378 said:I've been at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] for about 7 years now, and this is the first time I've heard of the "jelly state"
Who is "they"?
And why is this particular state coveted?
Ask Fedora, the big gainer with picture proof, about the "jelly state". Or do some research. I think I've heard King Cobra (1.8" EL gained) use the term before also.
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helpseeker,
Easiest way to determine if you've overtrained is to cut back about 50% or so, or even take a complete break for a coupla days and see if yer dick gets better.
Can't help too much, directly anyways, on the impatience thang...except to hammer home the point that Penis Enlargement is a long term endeavour.
You simply cannot rush it. You just can't.
Read the second half of my sig, it never goes out of style.
Easiest way to determine if you've overtrained is to cut back about 50% or so, or even take a complete break for a coupla days and see if yer dick gets better.
Can't help too much, directly anyways, on the impatience thang...except to hammer home the point that Penis Enlargement is a long term endeavour.
You simply cannot rush it. You just can't.
Read the second half of my sig, it never goes out of style.
Thanks for the help and info both of you..
Mike, I see your point there but what size did you start with and what size are you now? You certainly are not a 5 incher and in this world you are nothing without a good sized dick...by the way how long you think it'll take me atleast to get to 7? a year? 2 years? DLD got it done in 6 months maybe, just MAYBE I could too you know? and so could someeone else...I basically try to make myself feel good but just don't seem to work...and of course I'll do it until I see my ultimate goal 7-8 inches NBP, just hope that I get it in 6 months you know I have plans after 6 months lol...
Max, I know what you mean but what do you mean gets better? like how is it supposed to be when better?
yes I know Penis Enlargement is for the long run...
Mike, I see your point there but what size did you start with and what size are you now? You certainly are not a 5 incher and in this world you are nothing without a good sized dick...by the way how long you think it'll take me atleast to get to 7? a year? 2 years? DLD got it done in 6 months maybe, just MAYBE I could too you know? and so could someeone else...I basically try to make myself feel good but just don't seem to work...and of course I'll do it until I see my ultimate goal 7-8 inches NBP, just hope that I get it in 6 months you know I have plans after 6 months lol...
Max, I know what you mean but what do you mean gets better? like how is it supposed to be when better?
yes I know Penis Enlargement is for the long run...
From an old post of fedora's:
(The phrases "jelly state" and "jelly stage" are not part of the "official" [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] glossary, simply a description of the malleable condition he found his penis maintaining from constant stretching.)
new stretched pic without a ruler. One of my new goals is to be able to perform a DLD 3hander as the legend himself does in the pe videos forum.
My member have the last couple of weeks felt more like jelly, a state because of all the stretching. I´m starting to think that this jelly state is a good sign when it comes to length gaining. It´s like it never really heals because of all the stretching. I wish I could describe this jelly feeling better but I hope you understand what I mean.
I have now decided to not measure my nbpel or bpel before I reach 24 cm in bpfls. I hope my el catches up with my new bpfls gains soon.
(The phrases "jelly state" and "jelly stage" are not part of the "official" [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] glossary, simply a description of the malleable condition he found his penis maintaining from constant stretching.)
new stretched pic without a ruler. One of my new goals is to be able to perform a DLD 3hander as the legend himself does in the pe videos forum.
My member have the last couple of weeks felt more like jelly, a state because of all the stretching. I´m starting to think that this jelly state is a good sign when it comes to length gaining. It´s like it never really heals because of all the stretching. I wish I could describe this jelly feeling better but I hope you understand what I mean.
I have now decided to not measure my nbpel or bpel before I reach 24 cm in bpfls. I hope my el catches up with my new bpfls gains soon.
MikeShlort;527366 said:This is what they call the coveted "jelly state". This is the best state for your penis to be in for gaining, in my opinion, and also the opinion of logic. It's pliable, the tissues are soft, and everything is loose. That means good blood flow. Keep stretching and try to do what you have to to keep your penis in that magical "jelly state" as much as possible.
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That explains it perfectly. I've heard other members use the term, not just at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. Either way, the point should be taken that Fedora encouraged me to stretch when I was in the jelly state, and told me that he gained a significant amount of length doing DLD blasters while stretching in this state
helpseeker;527384 said:Thanks for the help and info both of you..
Mike, I see your point there but what size did you start with and what size are you now? You certainly are not a 5 incher and in this world you are nothing without a good sized dick...by the way how long you think it'll take me atleast to get to 7? a year? 2 years? DLD got it done in 6 months maybe, just MAYBE I could too you know? and so could someeone else...I basically try to make myself feel good but just don't seem to work...and of course I'll do it until I see my ultimate goal 7-8 inches NBP, just hope that I get it in 6 months you know I have plans after 6 months lol...
Max, I know what you mean but what do you mean gets better? like how is it supposed to be when better?
yes I know Penis Enlargement is for the long run...
I started around 6.5" but felt as though anything under 8" could not pleasure a woman. I wouldn't even talk to girls because of it. So I was in the exact same mind state as you are in, regardless of starting size. I had plans for my "new size" too, but I realized it's just stupid and now I don't base my life on how big my penis is. Took awhile, though. Well over a year.
What is your intent? To fuck as many women as possible? You don't need a big dick for that, just social connections, good people skills and good looks help. A big dick can help spread the rumour you are hung if you intend on fucking girls of the same social circle, but as far as random pick ups it's not that important.Are you wanting a real relationship with a woman? Penis size is important, but if you're with a woman who cares enough about sex to leave you for a bigger dick, you're better off alone. I've recently realized that normal girls, yes they love sex, but are looking for something else. The ones with lower back tattoos, low self esteem and no values are the ones who just want to have a good time, all the time.
I recently had sex with a woman who said I was by far the biggest she's had, but since my technique was awful, I didn't make her cum and she said it was some of the worst sex she's ever had. A guy with the penis the size of my index finger was able to make her cum. She kept talking about emotional connection, and saying that it was too forced, that it seemed like I had an agenda, that it was too mechanical, I was trying to rush it, being too impatient... All things I've never even considered when it came to sex. All I thought was big dick + hard fucking = what women want. Seems to not be the case, now I'm more concerned with "how do I get in situations where I am meeting girls and getting to form a connection with them" rather than before when it was just "I'll make my dick x size, then I'll go and fuck tons of girls". It doesn't work that way. Unless you're in high school.
I suggest you keep up on Penis Enlargement, go slowly, start with low force/tension so you aren't setting the bar too high with force required to make gains, use gradually increasing force and just take your mind off having to get to a certain size before you are able to fuck and have a life. That's stupid. That's how I thought, but that was only because I had been a drug addict for nearly 10 years, starting in my mid teens, so I was severely mentally and emotionally stunted.
Yes, a big dick on a guy that knows how to use it is important, but all you can do is properly do the exercises, talk to women, have experiences and stop being such a pussy. I imagine a girl would rather fuck a guy with 5" and self confidence/respect than a guy with 6.5" who hates himself and won't look at a woman because he's not 8".
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Lol you started with a 6.5"..I wishhhh I started even with a 6 inch..How are you supposed to have self respect with a 5? I just don't understand lol..and I have many intentions..yes in the beginning I want to fuck as many chicks as possible and also enjoy doing it and yes I want chicks to know and think I got a big one before and after I fuck them so they tell others about me and I basically want to be known to have a bigger than average one in length of course...and then I know this girl that I'm interested in, unfortunately she thinks I have a big one (I didn't talk about my size, she just assumed I do). I don't know if she likes a big one or not but I want to actually present a big one to her so then she KNOWS I have a big one and stay satisfied.. I am in high school...and I have done almost every single drug there is, quite regularly...Penis Enlargement is a great thing, ever since I started I stopped doing drugs, even smoking cigarettes that I started when 10..Also I'm 17 and I usually hang out with the most popular kids at school and I always hear them bragging about fucking random chicks at parties and etc and I just have to lsiten and stay quiet about all this...
It's so hard to not do the things I am used to doing because I think about them every single day...And I don't even go out much because I see soemone smoking I need to go get smoeks...
hepcat;527483 said:You've come a long way Michael Schlorty Pants. I'm proud of you. Even if the sex with that one girl wasn't good she didn't have to go telling you how bad you were. That's fucked up. Bitch! I felt the same way as you about having to be a certain size. I started at 6.75" BPenis EnlargementL and 6" NBPenis EnlargementL. Now my length is only 6 and 1/8" NBPenis EnlargementL but my BPenis EnlargementL has gone up to 7 and 1/8". I'm just waiting for the NBPenis EnlargementL to catch up. After reading your posts I see I am missing out on life waiting to reach a certain goal size I deem as necessary. I know I probably already asked you this but was your starting size 6.5" BPenis EnlargementL or NBPenis EnlargementL and what was your starting girth? What are your current stats? Are you gonna get another chance with that chick and see if you can't make her cum this time?
I take it all back, all women are filthy cock sluts with infinite holes. They need at least 9x7 for them to feel a tickle. Fuck them.
I started out around 6.5 NBPenis EnlargementL x 5.4 MEG. A lot of getting to 7" was due to increased EQ. Right now I'm probably 7NBPx5.75MEG but it sure feels like I've gained more. I wake up with a swinging flaccid (compared to what it was) and my erection seems long. I owe most of that to hanging. What a great, logical way to do Penis Enlargement.
I asked her how it was so she's not a bitch for being honest. I was close to making her cum, but my technique is sloppy. It's not as easy as it looks on the internet.
Maybe try losing body fat and your penis will look bigger. I'm going to post some comparison pictures on my thread tonight or in the next couple days showing my body and penis size before and after, going through all the various cycles of having to bigger in some way.
Also, I suggest starting to hang. Depending on your skin exit point and LOT, you may very well be able to gain 2" relatively easily. You gotta be patient and persistent though, take the time to go slow and do it right. Took me over a month to learn how to attach properly. I am finally just starting to reach noticeable fatigue after 2.5 months. You will notice a bigger, looser flaccid and better EQ at first, which I am now. I believe that is the first stop before gain town.
As far as getting out and enjoying life - do it. Any friends you may have or old friends you knew from high school - contact them. Even if you didn't care for them so much, use them for the social connections to meet people/girls you like. Just try to have dirty sex with a girl and get feedback from her. Just be honest, tell her what your issues are and that you are into Penis Enlargement and whatnot and get her to help you out. She'll be able to give you advice that none of us guys can.
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