injuries and PE lie

[exodus1984]

hi. i had done Penis Enlargement in my life for some time. like 2 months 2 years ago and maybe for few days 3-4 years ago.

and this year i decided to make it in a routine and done for 2-3 months regularly. i can say it doesnt ever add u extra size. it is no scientificly proved and searching all these sites i never saw a 'real' improvement.

all the photos are fake, and all the guys saying they gained 2-3 inches they are either administrators or moderators.

and i have been also searching sites for penis injuries. and all i see is tons of people injure their penises because of Penis Enlargement excersizes. and i am one of them. since June 2009 i am having a constant pain in my penis, change in colour.

i havent yet learnt what i really have but i damaged my Veins!! that is for sure. it is thrombosis or varicosed vein. which really doesnt have any treatment except surgery. or waiting for months ( i saw people have pain for over 1 year in forums)

so i all tell u Penis Enlargement is a BIG BIG lie which can ruin ur life. put u under stress. or even make u loose your erection.

and i can say Penis Enlargement wont even add u 1 inch!!!! u can only put some more blood ther and u can get ur fully potential which u can do without any excersize just with enough situmilation and a healthy life..

it is the most sensitive part of your body and yes one of most important for boys. so dont pull it dont jelq it dont hang anything dont do vacuum

or u will have months of pain. and loose ur confidence. feel urself like a fool. afraid weak and everything.

these are i am having for over 4 months. and believe me i saw worser people than my situation. not just visible veins and pain but not functioning,bleeding etc..

so also to administrators of this forum. dont play with peoples life for 30 bucks. i believe in justice of this universe and it will effect u in some way.. this is for ur own wellness.

and i wanted to do this just to relaese myself. this feels like a duty to me..

hope u quit this at once and have better hobbies for yourselves.

have a nice day

 

[DLD]

hi. i had done Penis Enlargement in my life for some time. like 2 months 2 years ago and maybe for few days 3-4 years ago.

and this year i decided to make it in a routine and done for 2-3 months regularly. i can say it doesnt ever add u extra size. it is no scientificly proved and searching all these sites i never saw a 'real' improvement.

all the photos are fake, and all the guys saying they gained 2-3 inches they are either administrators or moderators.

and i have been also searching sites for penis injuries. and all i see is tons of people injure their penises because of Penis Enlargement excersizes. and i am one of them. since June 2009 i am having a constant pain in my penis, change in colour.

i havent yet learnt what i really have but i damaged my Veins!! that is for sure. it is thrombosis or varicosed vein. which really doesnt have any treatment except surgery. or waiting for months ( i saw people have pain for over 1 year in forums)

so i all tell u Penis Enlargement is a BIG BIG lie which can ruin ur life. put u under stress. or even make u loose your erection.

and i can say Penis Enlargement wont even add u 1 inch!!!! u can only put some more blood ther and u can get ur fully potential which u can do without any excersize just with enough situmilation and a healthy life..

it is the most sensitive part of your body and yes one of most important for boys. so dont pull it dont jelq it dont hang anything dont do vacuum

or u will have months of pain. and loose ur confidence. feel urself like a fool. afraid weak and everything.

these are i am having for over 4 months. and believe me i saw worser people than my situation. not just visible veins and pain but not functioning,bleeding etc..

so also to administrators of this forum. dont play with peoples life for 30 bucks. i believe in justice of this universe and it will effect u in some way.. this is for ur own wellness.

and i wanted to do this just to relaese myself. this feels like a duty to me..

hope u quit this at once and have better hobbies for yourselves.

have a nice day

I guess you just exposed the 200,000+ members...I guess I will open another hobby forum.

 

[Bulldog1]

*Pulls up chair and grabs popcorn*

This should be really good.

 

[ronron234]

Thanks, this was hilarious

 

[opa]

haha, alright. this was hilarious..

 

[Beyond7]

If he is for real, I truly feel for him, because if he did Serious Penis Enlargement for months then he would know it works.

I went from bpel 13,8 cm to 16,3cm in a couple off months a couple off years ago and now I am back at it again to gain again with a good routine!

I love the haters, because all Penis Enlargement 'rs will be special then.


Beyond7,

 

[DLD]

If he is for real, I truly feel for him, because if he did Serious Penis Enlargement for months then he would know it works.

I went from bpel 13,8 cm to 16,3cm in a couple off months a couple off years ago and now I am back at it again to gain again with a good routine!

I love the haters, because all Penis Enlargement 'rs will be special then.


Beyond7,

You must be one of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] Mods

 

[kingsnake]

To be onist with you guys I am not even mad at the guy for trying to bring us down. I actually feel bad for him since he said he injuried himself. I hope he recovers and his dick is fully functional. I guess Penis Enlargement isn't for everyone. I know it works for me.

 

[IneedInches]

Im guessing that the TS had trouble gaining and then started to Penis Enlargement too zealously and injured himself at some point.

 

[DLD]

Im guessing that the TS had trouble gaining and then started to Penis Enlargement too zealously and injured himself at some point.

A better explanation is definitely important. When ANYONE tries to discredit Penis Enlargement, as a whole, based on personal experience, my ears perk up...this is usually some sort of trolling or attack but I always give the benefit of the doubt. A better way to approach this type of comment is by asking for help. I have always, and I know many of you, have always been open to helping someone through ANY process..."a problem cannot be solved by the same consciousness that created it." -Einstein

 

[kingsnake]

Yeah I agree DLD. I think instead of flaming this guy we should try to help him and offer some assistance first. Hey exodus1984, If you are still with us then feel free to ask any questions. We are willilng to help you anyway we can. I hope whatever injuries you have are 100% recoverable. Penis Enlargement definently works dude. You just went the wrong way about it. You said that the only people that made gains on this site are moderators and administrators but I am here to tell you that I have made gains with picture proof and I am not a moderator or admin. I'm just a regular member that has seen the fruits of Penis Enlargement done safely and patiently. So my friend, once again if you need some help let us know instead of bashing us.

 

[asteraki^_^]

A thrombosis can be treaten by daily long warm-up sessions (15-30 minutes). Also, a gentle massage could support the blood flow, so it should heal faster. All in all it should have disappeard in 1-2 weeks. But if you have doubts, go to the doctor - I assume he will tell you the same story as I do .
Found the method in the german penispedia, but it's only in case of thrombose (http://penispedia.de/doku.php?id=allgemeine_verletzungen_im_pe&s[]=thrombose Search for "Thrombose" if you want to see a picture to compare with your injury) I don't know a treatment of the other injury. I would also avoid masturbation, for obvious reason.
I wish you good luck and hope you change your opinion about Penis Enlargement !

 

[MAXAMEYES]

exodus,

Here's a little advice I wrote from another thread (if you're still around to read it, that is):

Penis Enlargement, Oxygen toxicity & proportion...
<HR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #989898; COLOR: #989898" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->If the most vital element for life can be toxic, then we all should remember that anything in the wrong proportions can be harmful. Even exercises you perform yourself, on yourself.

The full article here: http://science.howstuffworks.com/question4931.htm

Just Breathe
Now what would happen if you breathed 100 percent oxygen? In guinea pigs exposed to 100 percent oxygen at normal air pressure for 48 hours, fluid accumulates in the lungs and the epithelial cells lining the alveoli. In addition, the pulmonary capillaries get damaged. A highly reactive form of the oxygen molecule, called the oxygen free radical, which destroys proteins and membranes in the epithelial cells, probably causes this damage. In humans breathing 100 percent oxygen at normal pressure, here's what happens:

Fluid accumulates in the lungs.
Gas flow across the alveoli slows down, meaning that the person has to breathe more to get enough oxygen.
Chest pains occur during deep breathing.
The total volume of exchangeable air in the lung decreases by 17 percent.
Mucus plugs local areas of collapsed alveoli -- a condition called atelectasis. The oxygen trapped in the plugged alveoli gets absorbed into the blood, no gas is left to keep the plugged alveoli inflated, and they collapse. Mucus plugs are normal, but they are cleared by coughing. If alveoli become plugged while breathing air, the nitrogen trapped in the alveoli keeps them inflated.
The astronauts in the Gemini and Apollo programs breathed 100 percent oxygen at reduced pressure for up to two weeks with no problems. In contrast, when 100 percent oxygen is breathed under high pressure (more than four times that of atmospheric pressure), acute oxygen poisoning can occur with these symptoms:

Nausea
Dizziness
Muscle twitches
Blurred vision
Seizures/convulsions
Such high oxygen pressures can be experienced by military SCUBA divers using rebreathing devices, divers being treated for the bends in hyperbaric chambers or patients being treated for acute carbon monoxide poisoning.

 

[REDZULU2003]

hi. i had done Penis Enlargement in my life for some time. like 2 months 2 years ago and maybe for few days 3-4 years ago.

and this year i decided to make it in a routine and done for 2-3 months regularly. i can say it doesnt ever add u extra size. it is no scientificly proved and searching all these sites i never saw a 'real' improvement.

all the photos are fake, and all the guys saying they gained 2-3 inches they are either administrators or moderators.

and i have been also searching sites for penis injuries. and all i see is tons of people injure their penises because of Penis Enlargement excersizes. and i am one of them. since June 2009 i am having a constant pain in my penis, change in colour.

i havent yet learnt what i really have but i damaged my Veins!! that is for sure. it is thrombosis or varicosed vein. which really doesnt have any treatment except surgery. or waiting for months ( i saw people have pain for over 1 year in forums)

so i all tell u Penis Enlargement is a BIG BIG lie which can ruin ur life. put u under stress. or even make u loose your erection.

and i can say Penis Enlargement wont even add u 1 inch!!!! u can only put some more blood ther and u can get ur fully potential which u can do without any excersize just with enough situmilation and a healthy life..

it is the most sensitive part of your body and yes one of most important for boys. so dont pull it dont jelq it dont hang anything dont do vacuum

or u will have months of pain. and loose ur confidence. feel urself like a fool. afraid weak and everything.

these are i am having for over 4 months. and believe me i saw worser people than my situation. not just visible veins and pain but not functioning,bleeding etc..

so also to administrators of this forum. dont play with peoples life for 30 bucks. i believe in justice of this universe and it will effect u in some way.. this is for ur own wellness.

and i wanted to do this just to relaese myself. this feels like a duty to me..

hope u quit this at once and have better hobbies for yourselves.

have a nice day

You serious? rofl my cock is wider than a can and you want us to stop? this works buddy and I'm sorry for your bad luck but something must have been done wrongly from your end and if you'd had better guidance you would have gained.

Allot of the success stories here on mods incl pix arent from admin or mods, check yourself.

 

[Bulldog1]

Sorry if I'm out of line here, but I see a lot of this kind of attitude in the martial art I study (Brazilian jiu jitsu). We constantly have people come in to our gym, train for a couple of months, not apply technique correctly, injure themselves, then start talking trash about the sport rather than focus on their poor approach.

What separates those who remain and better themselves from those who become quitters is there attitude toward their own failure, and their ability to ask for advice from those who are more experienced than themselves instead of just dogging the instructors and the art in general. One approach brings respect and advancement, the other approach brings nothing, and I will lay down my gi and belt the day I see one of our instructors chase after someone who has a pissy attitude trying to sell our martial art to someone who doesn't have the spirit for it.

I don't see much reason to try to hold somebody's hand who is so prepared to say my gains and hard work are some kind of deception, just because they were unable to ask for help or put in the hours to study the art of enlargement. I have too much respect for the veterans of the art here who have put so much work and time into creating and refining techniques that have helped me and thousands of others so much to do so.

Exodus, you're a quitter with a poor attitude. Sorry if you hurt yourself, I'm going to go get back to work making my dick bigger. Apologies for the rant everyone.

 

[exodus1984]

well.. it sounds so nice when i listen to you but still after spending some months in this site it doesnt feel so real. cuz i checked almost all of yours photos.. and the guys show up there they are already really big. and some for ex like RedZulu there is only 1 photo. which i cudnt believe it was his.

i can just agree u may add 1-2 cm s at most. not 2-3 inches like some people mention here.

anyway before i believed it but now i dont. soon i will send u how many varicosed veins people have on this earth bec of streching and jelqing.

stupid doctors cant say me anything but it is like a varicosed vein. which can be described as i damaged my vein vessels. and there is no treatment for this. maybe only surgical removement or burning the vein which is not so recommended by doctors.

 

[exodus1984]

and ok. i dont want to start a fight here but to tell people it can be very dangerous and also say it can work up to a limit. and i oened topic here to reach more people.

so here anyone had varicose vein on shaft?? and he got cured? had pain in several places for months even after quitting it??

i saw some photos here they really have varicosed veins. but the problem is to injure a varicosed vein. and then u start having pain..

 

[MAXAMEYES]

and ok. i dont want to start a fight here but to tell people it can be very dangerous and also say it can work up to a limit. and i oened topic here to reach more people.

so here anyone had varicose vein on shaft?? and he got cured? had pain in several places for months even after quitting it??

i saw some photos here they really have varicosed veins. but the problem is to injure a varicosed vein. and then u start having pain..

Sounds more like you came here to piss and moan because you have your own agenda; which really doesn't seem to include "educating" anyone. But rather to try and discredit the efforts of, literally, hundreds of men who have used the information on this site to produce the most favorable results in the endeavour to improve the size and health of their penises.

Rant and rave all you want, you'll only incur the continued derision of those like myself who have accomplished far more then they ever originally intended.

Go spew somewhere else, you won't get too far here.

 

[GrowthSpurts]

Sounds more like you came here to piss and moan because you have your own agenda; which really doesn't seem to include "educating" anyone. But rather to try and discredit the efforts of, literally, hundreds of men who have used the information on this site to produce the most favorable results in the endeavour to improve the size and health of their penises.

Rant and rave all you want, you'll only incur the continued derision of those like myself who have accomplished far more then they ever originally intended.

Go spew somewhere else, you won't get too far here.

I was going to keep quiet on this thread but I'm glad you voiced an opinion that I share.

 

[exodus1984]

Jan 1, 1980 - BPenis EnlargementL 7.75" Girth - Didn't measure
May 15, 1993 - BPenis EnlargementL 8.07" Girth - 5.7" Mid Shaft
Nov 3, 2004 - BPenis EnlargementL 8.75" Girth - 5.7" - After using tips from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] -
Mar 8, 2005 - BPenis EnlargementL 8.8" Girth - 5.9" - mostly Jelqing
Apr 24, 2005 - BPenis EnlargementL 8.8" Girth - 6.1" -
May 5, 2007 - BPenis EnlargementL 8.8" Girth - 6.3"


this is proof of what i say. 1 inch for 3 years.. maybe it is also proof of my injury.. also it is another thing that if a 8 inches one gets 1 inch in 3 years 5 will very hardly get it..

 

[manmeat99]

exodus,

you obviously have a poor attitude towards Penis Enlargement. If you believe you will gain from Penis Enlargement then you WILL gain from Penis Enlargement. You sound like you over did it during your exercises. Take some time off and try again. Maybe try some hot towel wraps or something in the mean time. But to say Penis Enlargement is dangerous and doesnt work is crazy. There are so many guys on here including myself who have made gains from these exercises. I have only been at it for a little over 5 weeks and I've gained .5" length and .25" in girth. There's no disputing the evidence my friend.

 

[DLD]

Jan 1, 1980 - BPenis EnlargementL 7.75" Girth - Didn't measure
May 15, 1993 - BPenis EnlargementL 8.07" Girth - 5.7" Mid Shaft
Nov 3, 2004 - BPenis EnlargementL 8.75" Girth - 5.7" - After using tips from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] -
Mar 8, 2005 - BPenis EnlargementL 8.8" Girth - 5.9" - mostly Jelqing
Apr 24, 2005 - BPenis EnlargementL 8.8" Girth - 6.1" -
May 5, 2007 - BPenis EnlargementL 8.8" Girth - 6.3"


this is proof of what i say. 1 inch for 3 years.. maybe it is also proof of my injury.. also it is another thing that if a 8 inches one gets 1 inch in 3 years 5 will very hardly get it..

1 inch gain is a freaking miracle, how can you say it doe not work?

 

[Double Down]

Exodus...lighten up bro! Your situation is a bummer and I feel for your broken member. If you did your home work before starting Penis Enlargement you probably saw all the road signs along the way stating to be cautious and take it slow. Yes you can over do it or misinterpret technique. So you knew, and accepted the consequences for your actions. Take accountability for yourself and move on to your next failure. Their is always one in the bunch to discredit the winners for being a fake /fraud to make sense of their own misfortunes. I've come to expect these individuals and this mentality in all aspects of life. It's a flaw in character and thank god it runs in small numbers. These negative blurps of emotional distress offer a soothing contrast to what contributes to someone's success rather than their failure.

Positivity and a open mind count for allot in every thing you do. Have you ever caught yourself worrying about spilling or dropping something of great importance. The mental picture that is created in your head, fearing for the worst, seams so real that it actually is manifested in the physical. Hence the object of great importance crashes to the ground in the manner in which you invisioned it happening. My underlining point is "like attracts like". Worry, disbelief, negativity, and nay saying will only bring this reality to manifest in one's life. It's hard to wrap your head around I know...but if you look back at one's own life's experiences you will find this to be profoundly true.

Speaking for myself I have gained just about 40&#37; in total volume over a seven monthes. I'm 1 1/4" longer and 5/8" fatter. Yes I was curious at first but not skeptical of Penis Enlargement actually working. After the first signs of growth my mind could wrap itself around whatever potential I desired. So...exodus you need to continue your own life's journey until you turn the corner and allow yourself to succeed. Until then though try to refrain from making yourself look like such a predictable ass. If you haven't noticed.. this is a prolific forum in which individual's positivitley share technique and compassion. Many here have had the successes they knew could be achieved. That in itself speaks volumes.

 

[kingsnake]

I can't believe this guy said that Penis Enlargement isn't real when the man made a 1 inch gain. A whole inch is a big difference my man. There is a visual and functional difference between a 7 inch dick and an 8 inch dick. I hope you didn' expect to make like 5 inches in a year. Not everybody is going to gain as rapidly as DLD or RED did. It takes time bro.

 

[DLD]

Well maybe we can help this guy with his issues, that is what [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is best with.

 

[8InchMIKE]

I want to help this dude, he is in some trouble with his unit and a bit bitter because of it.

I say let's help him all we possibly can because this is just misdirected frustration.

He got injured, probably too much Penis Enlargement and too soon ( unadequate recovery phases ).

First thing out of my mouth in order to help is... Urologist trip, ask for ultrasound and/or doppler exam to evaluate chambers ( corpora cavernosum ) and any possible venous leaks you might have sustained. If all checks good then time for chemically induced erection to further evaluate erection quality.

Just my recomendation, i must say to you ( the OP ) that i was here for 3 years BEFORE becoming a MOD at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. I started with a 6.5x6.5 penis and am now around 8BPenis EnlargementL X 7+MSEG. This is about 1,5" in lenght and .5" in girth in all the time i am here. I think you gained more than i did and in less time. I believe the LESS is MORE theory and that has kept me pretty safe with ZERO injuries. Also, i MOD for free as do all the others here so this is hard work and NOT AN AGENDA.

Good luck and count on me and the others to help you.

Mike helping,

Peace.

 

[MAXAMEYES]

Hey Mike (8inch),
I hear ya....but I don't think he will. We can transmit all we want, if he ain't set on receive, well then, we're just pissin' into a tornado. Short of pullin' his dick for him, not much we can do for someone who rejects help. I'll save my energy for an enthusiastic gainer anytime.

 

[DLD]

Hey Mike (8inch),

As opposed to Mike 10inch?

 

[Tha3rdLeg]

Hello Dashdeming,

Your heavy hanging results sound impressive, congratulations. I wanted to ask you, before you started doing the heavy 1 set per day workouts, did you take the traditional approach that Bib recommends at first? Slowly working up in weights and sets until you are doing about 6 sets per day? Just curious if you had and then maybe got frustrated and decided to go your own way to cut down on time?

I'm kind of in a dilemma, it seems no matter what I do, I always have this reoccuring problem with my skin near the base of my penis acting up, but it usually seems okay the first 1 or 2 sets, but after that it gets progressivly worse throughout the night. I use a lot of vaseline throughout the night and next day, which helps a ton in healing, but once I go to hang again the next night I end up aggraviting it again. It's not horrible right now, but it never really goes away.

Anyway, I'm working 5 sets right now, and only at 8.5 pounds BTC, working on skin stretch. Been hanging since 9/15/09. I started thinking, well maybe if I just hang 1 or 2sets a night this should help any skin issues. And then I'll just basically bump 1 pound per week slowly building to some heavy hanging. I would throw in jelqing too, post-hang like you have done since it has worked well for you.

I'm just a little afraid of abandoning Bib's approach too early since it's worked so well for a lot of folks, but I think if I didn't do so many sets my skin wouldn't be continually in rough shape. And I don't really want to devote about 3 hours a night to Penis Enlargement, that is a lot of time! I figure doing your routine could really benefit me not only in time, but most importantly gains, and in with my sensitive skin (too many sets seem to keep it sore).

Thanks for taking the time to look at this if you get a chance,

PM

 

[DLD]

Here is the most fundamental truth about penis enlargement; if you believe you are going to make gains you probably will and if you believe you won't gain you probably wont. Basically, you right either way but being right with a bigger penis is best.

 

[bigbutnottoo]

Jan 1, 1980 - BPenis EnlargementL 7.75" Girth - Didn't measure
May 15, 1993 - BPenis EnlargementL 8.07" Girth - 5.7" Mid Shaft
Nov 3, 2004 - BPenis EnlargementL 8.75" Girth - 5.7" - After using tips from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] -
Mar 8, 2005 - BPenis EnlargementL 8.8" Girth - 5.9" - mostly Jelqing
Apr 24, 2005 - BPenis EnlargementL 8.8" Girth - 6.1" -
May 5, 2007 - BPenis EnlargementL 8.8" Girth - 6.3"


this is proof of what i say. 1 inch for 3 years.. maybe it is also proof of my injury.. also it is another thing that if a 8 inches one gets 1 inch in 3 years 5 will very hardly get it..

What The Fuck?

If these are your stats you gained a hell of a lot. Gaining over an inch of length is huge. The difference between 5.7 and 6.3 in girth is huge.

A 8.8 x 6.3 penis is somewhere in the upper part of the top 1% of all men. Of course you had a great starting size, but I dont see how anyone can complain about going from 7.75x5something to 8.8 x 6.3.

Sure it can take years but anything does.

To me this is like someone going to on a bodybuilding forum and saying
" Man, lifting weights does not work. I've been working out for years and I've only gained 40 pounds of muscle, 4 inches on my chest and 2 inches on each arm. And one time I tried to lift too much weight and even got an injury! You would think after working out for so long I would be 400lbs with 2% bodyfat and 28" arms. But no, this shit sucks and will just get you hurt!"

BTW, I had a bad thrombosis a few years back, but it was my own fucking fault for too much experimenting and overdoing certain things.

 

[DLD]

What The Fuck?

If these are your stats you gained a hell of a lot. Gaining over an inch of length is huge. The difference between 5.7 and 6.3 in girth is huge.

A 8.8 x 6.3 penis is somewhere in the upper part of the top 1% of all men. Of course you had a great starting size, but I dont see how anyone can complain about going from 7.75x5something to 8.8 x 6.3.

Sure it can take years but anything does.

To me this is like someone going to on a bodybuilding forum and saying
" Man, lifting weights does not work. I've been working out for years and I've only gained 40 pounds of muscle, 4 inches on my chest and 2 inches on each arm. And one time I tried to lift too much weight and even got an injury! You would think after working out for so long I would be 400lbs with 2% bodyfat and 28" arms. But no, this shit sucks and will just get you hurt!"

BTW, I had a bad thrombosis a few years back, but it was my own fucking fault for too much experimenting and overdoing certain things.

I remember when I first posted my gains at Thunders. I was depressed that I only made a 2 inch gain and I was reaching out for help for the reason I did not gain 4"....I got landslided.

 

[exodus1984]

they are not my stats.. i took from someones signature. and for me 3 years for 1 inches.. seems not sufficient and yes risky. i think i dnt have thrombosed vein but a varicosed vein which never heals.. i will go to my own country after some weeks and we ll see what doctors will give me. probably surgery and loosing 1 vein there. which i was supposed to improve more blood going there and have a bigger.

also most of the guys here dont know about penis anatomy.. as far as i learnt there is 1 or 2 main vein that support blood to penis and all the other ones in surface are the one collecting blood back to heart. so actually when u make jelqing u force their vessels backwards. put pressure on them. and then u break-injure them. this is the same description about what vacuum pumps do. but in none of the forums or articles i read this can cause that. i only taught i will have skin problems..

u can add soemthings but believe me in long term it wont be so useful for u. this is not ur nose or leg or ear. this is ur penis full of nerves, veins and lympathic veins. so better dont play with it.

i think i will write u my final treatment to u.

have a nice day.

 

[chazster]

Yes it may be dangerous, but most of us here know it works because we have seen the results ourselves. I think a lot of us don't stick to our guns as much as we like. We get sick, busy at work, don't have private time, etc. Those can really effect our gains, but we know if we stick to it we will gain. I am trying to get back into it and hope to see gains once again.

 

[bigbutnottoo]

All penises are ( relatively) small. Adding 1 inch is, IMHO, HUGE progress. Adding even a fraction of an inch in girth can make a big difference. As I said, saying Penis Enlargement is a failure based off gains of over 15&#37; in each direction is like saying it's a waste of time to lift weights if you can't get bigger than Ronnie Coleman naturally. It's a product of what you want to put into it and your patience, etc. And yes you have other factors like genetics- Just like EVERYTHING else in life. But you don't let that stop you from being the best you can be.

 

[Big Al]

...also most of the guys here dont know about penis anatomy..

You would be mistaken in assuming that there's no one here that knows about penile anatomy.

as far as i learnt there is 1 or 2 main vein that support blood to penis and all the other ones in surface are the one collecting blood back to heart. so actually when u make jelqing u force their vessels backwards. put pressure on them. and then u break-injure them. this is the same description about what vacuum pumps do.

Pumps are often prescribed by medical professionals for impotence- likely the same medical professionals you'll be getting your supposed treatment from.

u can add soemthings but believe me in long term it wont be so useful for u. this is not ur nose or leg or ear. this is ur penis full of nerves, veins and lympathic veins. so better dont play with it.

Save your doomsaying and your attempts at "saving" us from ourselves- it's insulting to anyone with a degree of intelligence. Just because you had a bad experience doesn't mean that those of us that do Penis Enlargement sensibly will. There are men here that have been Penis Enlargementing for years and have only positive things to say about it.

i think i will write u my final treatment to u.

Something tells me that it won't be the last we'll hear from you. I'm sure you'll pop up again- perhaps under another username.

 

[exodus1984]

penis pumps in healthy people causes harm to blood vessels. also jelqing does it. pump just hold blood in penis to achieve erection. not cure impotence.

i wont pop up in other name. i am clear with what i say..

i cud curse all people and watch them have injuries. but i just want to warn them. that is what i aim here

 

[Big Al]

All penises are ( relatively) small. Adding 1 inch is, IMHO, HUGE progress. Adding even a fraction of an inch in girth can make a big difference. As I said, saying Penis Enlargement is a failure based off gains of over 15&#37; in each direction is like saying it's a waste of time to lift weights if you can't get bigger than Ronnie Coleman naturally. It's a product of what you want to put into it and your patience, etc. And yes you have other factors like genetics- Just like EVERYTHING else in life. But you don't let that stop you from being the best you can be.

Great post

To show just how huge a relatively "small" gain is, let's consider volume. A man starting with a 6x5 inch penis has about 157 cc of volume. Once he hits 7x5.5 inches, he now has a volume of 224 cc. That's a 43% gain in volume! These guys complaining about "only" a one inch gain don't realize that there's few fully functional bodyparts that you can alter to such a radical degree as you can the penis.

You can easily see for yourself what your volume gains are by either doing the math or using an app like "Mr. Average's Sizer".

 

[Big Al]

penis pumps in healthy people causes harm to blood vessels. also jelqing does it. pump just hold blood in penis to achieve erection. not cure impotence.

i wont pop up in other name. i am clear with what i say..

So penis pumping doesn't damage the valves of men with impotence? It selectively chooses only healthy men- is that what you're stating?

Here's the definition of impotence: Impotence, often called erectile dysfunction, refers to the male's inability to achieve or maintain an erection long enough to engage in sexual intercourse.

Seeing as how penis pumps do create an artificial erection capable of engaging in sexual intercourse, your statement doesn't hold water.

i cud curse all people and watch them have injuries. but i just want to warn them. that is what i aim here

Again, it's intellectually insulting to those of us that have done Penis Enlargement and related activities for years with only positive results.

To elaborate a bit on this- you seem to claim that all Penis Enlargement will cause damage. You do know that there's such a thing as overdoing it, and that also applies to Penis Enlargement, correct? Yes, it is possible to destroy the valves, blood vessels, ligaments, etc. of your penis doing Penis Enlargement but only if you abuse Penis Enlargement or have some preexisting condition. What you state doesn't make sense to those of us that have done Penis Enlargement on a more conservative level and have only improved our level of functioning. That's the reason why your post isn't very well taken here- you're making blanket statements without seemingly having much of a knowledge base yourself. Perhaps if you let that sink in a bit you'll rethink the way you word things and your posts will have a better chance of getting positive feedback.

Instead of coming here to "save us from the dangers of Penis Enlargement", why don't you do a little reading and read what other members have to say instead of blindly posting your opinions. You seem bent on getting your message across without caring about what others have to say, so either you're [no offense intended] ignorant or you're a troll.

 

[exodus1984]

are u a doctor??

have u ever read a doctor recommending penis enlargement with pumps?? and have u ever seen a one says it is not dangerous??

 

[DLD]

are u a doctor??

have u ever read a doctor recommending penis enlargement with pumps?? and have u ever seen a one says it is not dangerous??

Big Al is more qualified than any doctor ever will.

 

[Big Al]

are u a doctor??

No, but I've been studying penile anatomy for over 10 years I've helped countless men with their enlargement and enhancement efforts during that time, and have collaborated with numerous doctors and medical professionals, as well as very knowledgeable people like DLD.

have u ever read a doctor recommending penis enlargement with pumps?? and have u ever seen a one says it is not dangerous??

Yes, there are doctors that recommend and even sell pumps for enlargement (like Dr. Kaplan), although it's my opinion that most of the results are temporary and due to edematous swelling than actual tissue expansion. Pumps are recommended by many medical professionals for the purpose of resolving impotence. Either way, the mechanism is the same. A pump is not going to make a distinction between a healthy person pumping for enlargement or a man trying to use it to obtain an erection.

And yes, pumps can be abused too.

I'll bold this for you so that you can let it sink in:

The key to successful, injury free pumping, Penis Enlargement, etc. is in using moderation.

Non-surgical enlargement techniques are also slowly but surely gaining medical favor as well.

By the way, I would appreciate a response to my questions- seeing as how I've been responding to yours.

 

[Big Al]

Big Al is more qualified than any doctor ever will.

Thank you for those kind words- you're doing very well in the knowledge department yourself

 

[exodus1984]

sorry for ur attitude towards science..

do any of these enlargement procedures sites and tools give guarante for any injury?

and any scientific therapy for injuries?? even the small tips given here may cause the situation worsen..

i always tought i have thrombosis so i used hot therapy which caused inner bleeding and have small red areas appear on head. but my problem was weakened veins so it caused this. and made varicosed vein get bigger.

and it is not even mentioned here in the site.. but i saw in medical sites many people asking for help for this and even dysfunction and who knows maybe in future i ll have that problem also. so who will get responsibility here..

what i say is be scientific. at least doctors try to prevent future damage and hold current situation. and dont advice anything can be harmful...

so we are here like street guys giving each other granny remedies..

 

[Big Al]

sorry for ur attitude towards science..

To whom is this directed to? Surely nothing I've said so far is "unscientific". On the contrary- the only one here making blanket statements without a solid base of knowledge is you.

do any of these enlargement procedures sites and tools give guarante for any injury?

No, and neither do penis enlargement surgeries, drugs, and other procedures touted by the medical community. If you're looking for a guarantee of safety for any of these options you won't find one. There's an inherent risk in anything that you do- the key is to take the most sensible course.

and any scientific therapy for injuries?? even the small tips given here may cause the situation worsen..

There's tons of info here for treating injuries if you just bother to read. Many medical professionals will recommend pelvic floor exercises for treating certain forms of impotence (just like what's found here on this forum for free), and there's also recommendations for supplements (like Butcher's Broom) that may help with venous leaks.

i always tought i have thrombosis so i used hot therapy which caused inner bleeding and have small red areas appear on head. but my problem was weakened veins so it caused this. and made varicosed vein get bigger.

Are you a doctor? Then how can you diagnose yourself as having a thrombosis unless you've had a Doppler scan or cavernosogram?

and it is not even mentioned here in the site.. but i saw in medical sites many people asking for help for this and even dysfunction and who knows maybe in future i ll have that problem also. so who will get responsibility here..

what i say is be scientific.

The Scientific Method is based on Prediction, Observation, Hypothesising, Experimentation, and Conclusions. That seems to be what a lot of men are doing here when they log their results.

at least doctors try to prevent future damage and hold current situation. and dont advice anything can be harmful...

That statement was just foolish as anyone familiar with the history of Allopathic medicine can attest to. Yes, I believe most doctors to be people interested in helping others, but often, the methods used don't cure anything- they just treat the symptoms. By your own admittance in previous posts your docs didn't do anything for your condition.

so we are here like street guys giving each other granny remedies..

And that statement was just insulting! You obviously haven't read through too many Penis Enlargement forums. Why no one's banned you yet is a testament to how tolerant the mods/admins here can be. Your posts are getting insulting though so I would recommend a change in your tactics before you do get banned.

 

[DLD]

To whom is this directed to? Surely nothing I've said so far is "unscientific". On the contrary- the only one here making blanket statements without a solid base of knowledge is you.



No, and neither do penis enlargement surgeries, drugs, and other procedures touted by the medical community. If you're looking for a guarantee of safety for any of these options you won't find one. There's an inherent risk in anything that you do- the key is to take the most sensible course.



There's tons of info here for treating injuries if you just bother to read. Many medical professionals will recommend pelvic floor exercises for treating certain forms of impotence (just like what's found here on this forum for free), and there's also recommendations for supplements (like Butcher's Broom) that may help with venous leaks.



Are you a doctor? Then how can you diagnose yourself as having a thrombosis unless you've had a Doppler scan or cavernosogram?



The Scientific Method is based on Prediction, Observation, Hypothesising, Experimentation, and Conclusions. That seems to be what a lot of men are doing here when they log their results.



That statement was just foolish as anyone familiar with the history of Allopathic medicine can attest to. Yes, I believe most doctors to be people interested in helping others, but often, the methods used don't cure anything- they just treat the symptoms. By your own admittance in previous posts your docs didn't do anything for your condition.



And that statement was just insulting! You obviously haven't read through too many Penis Enlargement forums. Why no one's banned you yet is a testament to how tolerant the mods/admins here can be. Your posts are getting insulting though so I would recommend a change in your tactics before you do get banned.

Nicely said and thanks you for going into depth. I truly think some of these people think we have no education on urological topics, it is nice to see you schooling folks, admirable.

 

[the_squid]

Well, as far as I know, many people here would make an expert in urology blush.

And as you said, exodus1984, it's our dicks, we wouldn't risk it that much.

Many of we, also, fascinated on our own results, studied the phenomena in depth. And there are A LOT of scientific proofs that Penis Enlargement works. Medicine uses [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] even for bone growth.

The irony of this is: after you recover from your vein problem, if you have erection problems, have a look to Penis Enlargement - it might solve your problem.

Cheers!

 

[Big Al]

Nicely said and thanks you for going into depth. I truly think some of these people think we have no education on urological topics, it is nice to see you schooling folks, admirable.

Thanks

I strongly suspect that some of these guys have ulterior motives for being here, and there's evidence of it posted in the mod forum.

 

[anth1225]

Whew, Big Al's got a temper after-all

 

[Big Al]

Whew, Big Al's got a temper after-all

I'm only human

It's just very frustrating to see these guys all over the various Penis Enlargement forums with the same mission- to promote some surgeon's technique. This guy must be hiring them out by the dozen. If he only understood that if he counseled his employees to approach these forums with a bit more tact he may actually be able to get his message out to severely injured men that may opt for his services. By putting up posts attempting to discredit Penis Enlargement he's just fomenting hostility.

He also doesn't get that some of us have been involved in moderating forums for a long time. We can smell the BS coming from a mile away.

We should continue to do our best to protect these forums.