then should i be worried that mine last for only about a couple minutes...? and i dont think i do it wrong, it gets massive at full pressure but then as soon as i take it off after a few minutes its back to its original flaccid size.
 
How long have you been using it? I think the longer you use it... the longer temp gain last (im not talking about long sessions but many days of using it)

the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is my secret weapon when i'm about to sex up a chick .. i know its cheating but she doesnt know that haha
 
Throw in some [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] too, and keep your post pump even longer.
 
About 6 hours if I use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] alone, when I do super-sets using DLD [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] Girth Blasters I am pumped till the next session.
 
Alex78;448934 said:
whats the point?

you need to do it constantly for months to get real gains!

That is the point! That is the point with all Penis Enlargement.
 
I pumped last night at 10 for 30 while doing stretches and still have expansion right now as I'm about to use my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Definitely get one if you haven't and stay consistent. I really enjoy pumping at night watching adult entertainment before sleep
 
n8dogg;448987 said:
I pumped last night at 10 for 30 while doing stretches and still have expansion right now as I'm about to use my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Definitely get one if you haven't and stay consistent. I really enjoy pumping at night watching adult entertainment before sleep

Good Dreams?:)
 
My expansion will usually last about 12 hours. If I know I'll be using it on a girl, I will pump 8 hours before I expect to use it.
 
Toby50;449655 said:
My expansion will usually last about 12 hours. If I know I'll be using it on a girl, I will pump 8 hours before I expect to use it.

Have you been with a girl pre-Bathmate that you have gotten with post-Bathmate? If so, what was her reaction?
 
I know I've gotten several "wow, you feel huge" reactions a few hours after using it.

I still haven't gained anything permanent though. If I take a day off it's back to normal. Kind of upsetting, given the amount of time I've put into this so far. Seems like I've just got looser skin as my permanent change.

I'm hoping maybe it's simply that I still need stronger PC muscles to get more blood in there. It's not as if it's incapable of expanding to 6" midshaft... it does it all the time! Kegel kegel kegel!
 
OneWeekIn;452771 said:
I know I've gotten several "wow, you feel huge" reactions a few hours after using it.

I still haven't gained anything permanent though. If I take a day off it's back to normal. Kind of upsetting, given the amount of time I've put into this so far. Seems like I've just got looser skin as my permanent change.

I'm hoping maybe it's simply that I still need stronger PC muscles to get more blood in there. It's not as if it's incapable of expanding to 6" midshaft... it does it all the time! Kegel kegel kegel!

Try multiple sessions per day! Keep that expansion going. Only take a day off if you EQ takes a nosedive. I am one who overtrains easily but have been doing 3 sessions per day without any problems thus far. I know if I was doing length work or mixing in other manual exercises I'd overtrain but with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] alone I've been fine.
 
I don't think I have time for 2 a days. And I took time off because EQ did suffer (or if it was a weekend spent on the road). Actually, in a sense EQ is still down - it takes a lot more work to arouse me now. I think I've burned through all the good adult entertainment on the internet to arouse myself to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. Especially for 2nd and 3rd sets when it takes more work.

The other thing about this where my experiences don't match the consensus is that it seems like I get more fluid if I attempt jelqs or SSJs between sets. I know you're supposed to get less, but I don't. Today I only did 3x5 minutes, had an easier time getting hard for each and for SSJs, but ended up with as much fluid as I'd get if I did 20minutes straight or 3x10. Weird.

Anyway, back on topic, that was 4 hours ago and even discounting the fluid, I'm still expanded. Not as much as I have been in the past, but a bit. Should be having sex soon too, actually. Maybe she'll notice...
 
If you are still getting retention using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] maybe you should switch to a more basic exercise like the Jelq. The jelq only uses one point of presure and this may solve this issue, the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] uses two and for some guys this may not work. Give the jelq a try and report back.
 
Maybe this is all in my head but I always feel like I have a ton of retention in the turkey neck area. And then when I jelq it's almost like I end up distributing that all farther down the penis.

On the plus side, jelquing is a lot more fun when you're all pumped up to like 6.5" base girth. Hell, if I got any thicker than that I wouldn't actually be able to fit my hand around it anymore! (How do the thicker folks even do jelqs?)

I think maybe I'm just weird. I get great expansion and a 24 hour pump, but I haven't gained even a fraction of an inch of girth. The ball stretches don't work for me. I don't do specific length work other than the occasional tug with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] attached... and I've gained a quarter inch in length. Everything is backwards for me.
 
OneWeekIn;453635 said:
Maybe this is all in my head but I always feel like I have a ton of retention in the turkey neck area. And then when I jelq it's almost like I end up distributing that all farther down the penis.

On the plus side, jelquing is a lot more fun when you're all pumped up to like 6.5" base girth. Hell, if I got any thicker than that I wouldn't actually be able to fit my hand around it anymore! (How do the thicker folks even do jelqs?)

I think maybe I'm just weird. I get great expansion and a 24 hour pump, but I haven't gained even a fraction of an inch of girth. The ball stretches don't work for me. I don't do specific length work other than the occasional tug with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] attached... and I've gained a quarter inch in length. Everything is backwards for me.


What is you exact routine?
 
doublelongdaddy;453681 said:
What is you exact routine?

It's fairly unscientific, which I know you're going to say is the root of the issue.

For the first month I Bathmated on weekdays. I experimented with the number of sets but it was always at least 3. I found 3x10 always led to fluid expansion but 4x6 sometimes didn't... tried everything from 2x12 to 6x6 as that one guy had, etc. What I found was that jelquing in between seemed almost like I was just taking the fluid buildup from in my turkey neck area to the rest of the penis. Basically, I'd get fluid retention after about 20 minutes, regardless of how I divided it up.

I always get great expansion beforehand, though. From 5 1/4 at the scar to as much as 6". I'd hold 5.75 for as much as 24 hours.

What I found, though was some serious fatigue and lowered EQ, even though I was doing a lot of kegeling. I experimented with some clamping too, either on weekends or as a 2-a-day. Some days I'd just not have morning wood or it'd be really hard to get aroused. So in month 2 I backed off a bit in terms of frequency but upped the intensity. I like the idea of some rest and mental work, so I would go a bit harder with clamping/Bathmate and then take more days off. I'd do something like MWF 2 sets clamp, 3 sets [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], one more of clamp... And I'd be seriously fatigued afterward. Like I know it's really expanding. And that'd carry over to the next day, to the point where it seemed like doing it again would be counterproductive. But who knows... maybe I'm still conflating muscle with penis in my head even though I know not to. Maybe I just fatigue more because I do pull on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] to do some stretches (though not nearly as many as the routine calls for - just a bunch of 20-30 sec downs and outs, after which I have to re-pump because I know a bit of suction escapes)

Anyway, any mental EQ issues I had disappeared in the 2nd month. For instance, it was getting to the point where it was a real challenge to arouse myself to go into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]... I just kind of felt like I was really forcing it. Even with cialis it was a challenge after a set or two. Now that's not the case. I am highly aroused easily through an entire session.

That said, any time I have taken a day off, for two months now, I'm right back down to 5.25" scar girth. After feeling how thick it gets when expanded this is always a bit discouraging.

I always do the ball massage before and after. I do kegels all the time throughout the day and have greatly improved my sex life from those. On days off I jelq, though not at massive 3-500 rep volume... just like 1-200 in the shower.

This week was 2 months. The results? I measured 7.25 BPenis EnlargementL yesterday, albeit it at a lower exit point than where I used to be (when I was always 6.75". Sex is greatly improved. But my balls don't hang any lower, often still get sucked to the edge of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] where it's painful, I have more turkey neck, I still haven't gotten rid of a few ingrowns I've had for 2 months (the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] always irritates them), and girth is the same... yet I do nothing for length and am longer.

I'm not at the super discouraged point or anything. And I know not to expect miracles in a month. It's just weird.
 
Hey guys, I'm new here, I just got my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] today, I used it for a long session, got huge inside the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]! But as soon as I took it off, the temporary gains only lasted a minute or two.. Then it went back to it's normal size.. How do you guys make it last hours? Jesus
 
juud, it takes time, not just time in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] per day but months to build it up. Be consistent and the longer you have been doing pe the better the results.
The more work and time you put into it the more you get out of it.
 
Thats it! It takes time for permanence but there are incredible benefits to the temporary gains! It really is the best of both worlds!
 
This is an old thread I know but it fits my questions perfectly. I've been using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] 5-6 days a week for about 2 months and the pump never lasts more than a few minutes. I was wondering at what point (3 months, 6 months?) should I expect temporary gains to start sticking around using the DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] (warm up, manual stretching, 5x5x3 jelq and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] then warm down)? I know that there are times I have to get harder to jelq or get into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] and I get carried away masturbating for a couple minutes in between sets, I think this bad habit might be hurting my workout potential.
 
Masturbation after the workouts will totally deflate your shit. I focus real hard to not even let pre-cum release (it always does, but getting better at retaining it).
 
templnite;673722 said:
Masturbation after the workouts will totally deflate your shit. I focus real hard to not even let pre-cum release (it always does, but getting better at retaining it).

I was under the impression edging was good after a workout, just avoid ejaculation. I will try holding off, see if it hangs around a little longer.
 
Edging doesn't give me such great benefit so I only do enough to keep the session going. I know its tough but don't touch yourself unless to do training, and you'll be raging at all times with increased expansion.
 
ck396;673723 said:
I was under the impression edging was good after a workout, just avoid ejaculation. I will try holding off, see if it hangs around a little longer.

I use edging as a way of lasting longer before ejaculation. I also have been using it in my Priapism experiment, along with many other erect exercises and I am seeing benefits of Tunica expansion.
 
doublelongdaddy;673728 said:
I use edging as a way of lasting longer before ejaculation. I also have been using it in my Priapism experiment, along with many other erect exercises and I am seeing benefits of Tunica expansion.

I think I'll keep my edging sessions separate. I usually pe at night before bed so I can edge in the morning then. What are your thoughts on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] temporary gains? I'm not sure if it's me not pumping hard enough or if I just need to keep at it.
 
Usually have a little pump going 24/7. I use mine twice a day and it's not uncommon for the pump to start lasting all day once you have enough experience and your junk gets used to it.
 
ck396;673750 said:
I think I'll keep my edging sessions separate. I usually pe at night before bed so I can edge in the morning then. What are your thoughts on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] temporary gains? I'm not sure if it's me not pumping hard enough or if I just need to keep at it.

If you are not seeing temp gains using your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] you will need to use more intensity. Are you using the 3x3x5 routine? If not this may be the issue, check out the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] routine in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread, a much better way to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] and make gains faster. It will also teach you a great deal about making gains permanent.
 
I've been following your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bath mate[/words] 3x5x5. Last couple sessions I pumped as much as I could and it felt much more intense the entire time (usually it settles down after a couple minutes).

I also started using my universal pumping sleeve as I lost my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]comfort pad[/words], I think that helped as well.

Edit: should I be pumping up/down in stages or just a quick up and release when done?
 
Longth;673794 said:
Usually have a little pump going 24/7. I use mine twice a day and it's not uncommon for the pump to start lasting all day once you have enough experience and your junk gets used to it.

But how much expansion lasting how long?
Ck you don't need to alternate the vacuum just make sure you're not spending too long in it. It always works better to come out, jelq or even just edge a little, and go back in. This gives you more expansion than just spending one long set
 
ck396;673951 said:
Edit: should I be pumping up/down in stages or just a quick up and release when done?

It really makes little difference.
 
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