M37,

>alright so as soon as i experiance fatigue i should lower the weight in the subsequent set? or go for one more set first?<

You will have to play it by ear. Usually, when if I had hard time finishing the first set at my Max weight, I would go ahead and reduce for the next set. But you may be different.

>when i lower the weight should i decrease as little as possible in order to continue hanging comfortably?? or what?<

Just do some experimentation and see what works best for you. It really depends on the range of weight with which you are working. When I was hanging 20-25 lbs, I would usually reduce in 2.5 lb increments. But when I was hanging at a Max of 15, I would only reduce by 1 lb.

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alright sounds good... this will allow me to hang ALOT more. since sometime s i had to quit not due to time contstraints but it was simply too hard to continue! :D

i think i'll be averaging 8-10 sets a day 7 days a week... hopefully i'll see some growth before i hit 30 lbs as my max weight ! haha! mind you i'm not going to measure until christmas (or i see a remarkable increase) so i don't get discouraged!

when i reach my length goals... i will be doing clamping... u meantioned uli 3s. i was wondering what is the device you used to do them and how did you perform them?
 
M3721 said:
u meantioned uli 3s. i was wondering what is the device you used to do them and how did you perform them?
Sign up at Thundersplace.org Search for a thread called Uli Thing. This is the only device I know of. But, you don't need a device.
 
What gold said. One of you might go to Thunders, copy my instructions, and move it over here. I told someone I would find those and put them up, but I have had no time.

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nice, i'll have to check later...

hey bib... when doing say 14-17 sets a day what range of weight would u have worked with??

supposing you started with ur top weight of 45 lbs.. like what would ur lowest sets be and how progressive would the decrease in weights be? (45 -40-35-30-30-30-25-25-25-25-25 etc etc???)

how about with 15? or 10 lbs as your max?

today i used 11.25 lbs as my max weight... i lasted 3 sets with little fatigue... the last 3 fatigue came on sooner and sooner in the set... i then proceeded to use 7.5 lbs... for 4 sets the first 2 the last 5-7 mins were very fatiguing... the last 2 sets fatiuing all the way thru... i then continued to finish off with 2 sets of 5 which were fairly easy but mounting fatigue towards the end of the set.

so it went like this;

11.25 x 6 (first 3 fairly easy, last 3 got progressivley fatiguing... last set very difficult)
7.5 x 4 (first 2 difficult in the last 5-7 minutes... last 2 very fatiguing after 5 minutes)
5.0 x 2 (fairly easy to begin with, but mounting fatigue towards the end of each set)

how does this sounds to you?
 
Novice hangers should ensure both that they use a suitable weight, and avoid excessive loss of circulation when hanging. Any feeling of numbness or cold/blue glans should be taken as an indication to immediately end the hanging session.


The Original Bib Hanger


Split and cut off a 3 inch pice of tubing
Cut out 1/4
Trim out a U or V as shown
Cut off excess for head and drill hole for S-hook
Shown opened
Bevel all contact edged. Bevel opening edges as shown in close up.
Attach band clamp
 
i've made version 2 of that hanger...

oh and bib... where should i position the hanger? as close to the glans as possible? or what?
 
M37,

>hey bib... when doing say 14-17 sets a day what range of weight would u have worked with??<

I simply went by feel. I might have reduced the weight more or less, depending on how sore I was. Then, I might hit a weight that I could hang for several sets in a row. It just depended on soreness.

I did not push the envelope, but was usually very safe. Also, if I was too sore during a set, I would reduce weight or end the set. When I was hanging very heavy weight, if I was so sore that I could not hang half my max, I would generally end the session.

>supposing you started with ur top weight of 45 lbs.. like what would ur lowest sets be and how progressive would the decrease in weights be? (45 -40-35-30-30-30-25-25-25-25-25 etc etc???)<

The above could be a possibility.

>how about with 15? or 10 lbs as your max?<

Same thing.

>>today i used 11.25 lbs as my max weight... i lasted 3 sets with little fatigue... the last 3 fatigue came on sooner and sooner in the set... i then proceeded to use 7.5 lbs... for 4 sets the first 2 the last 5-7 mins were very fatiguing... the last 2 sets fatiuing all the way thru... i then continued to finish off with 2 sets of 5 which were fairly easy but mounting fatigue towards the end of the set.

so it went like this;

11.25 x 6 (first 3 fairly easy, last 3 got progressivley fatiguing... last set very difficult)
7.5 x 4 (first 2 difficult in the last 5-7 minutes... last 2 very fatiguing after 5 minutes)
5.0 x 2 (fairly easy to begin with, but mounting fatigue towards the end of each set)

how does this sounds to you?<<

That sounds entirely reasonable.

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THANKS!!!

hey i've noticed stretch marks on the skin at the base of my penis, also.. the underside of my penis seems thicker... not sure tho... could just be looking too hard. I'm going to measure on christmas, maybe it will be my best gift :D hahaha! anywhere from 1/2" to inch would be incredible. n e ways,

I was wondering how would you compare your size to say mandingo's or DLDs? same size? is your size bone pressed? or non bone pressed? have you ever posted pictures?
 
On a another note, i've realized the reason i was having trouble with sets was i was hanging too low! The hanger would ride over the head a bit!! i've since realized it's best to have it so it meets the back of the glans when pulled (not hanging onto it, but hanging just behind it, kissing it if you will)... i've had some really good hanging sessions since! no pain, and only slight discomfort, the ligs bug me before anything else!

i figure i'm going to averaging ABOUT 15 hrs a week. i'd like to hang alot more but i really don't have the time to. when summer comes tho! i'll be hanging probably close to twice that. :)
 
Bib this is another question (sorry for so many!!!)...

When it comes to hanging at different angles how do you approach this??

What angles to use? how are they performed? how often to rotate angles?

i had originally been hanging SD, but now have been hanging BTC as i feel it more in the ligs and fascial tissue now.

I've been hanging for a full month now, and am now using 12.5 lbs for at least 15 hrs a week. At what point should i consider other angles other then the standard BTC and SD? after i've reach a max weight which draws fatigue in 1-2 sets and have been at it for a month or so? or what?


Thanks AGAIN BIB!!! you are a TREMENDOUS help...
 
M,
Sounds like you are very dedicated and putting a tremendous effort into your Penis Enlargement. Well Done!!
You might want to consider doing a measurement before Christmas. Penis Enlargement is like everything, there is a right way and a wrong way, and for each person the right way is a little different. At your pace you should have gained 1/2 inch by 2.5 months if you are hitting it in the right way. If you have not then you need to alter what you are doing. Measurement is a key to management, whether it is in sport, business or Penis Enlargement. Make little changes along the way to achieve the best result. Hanging is great, and I have achieved my best result since starting. How do I know? I have been measuring the changes. What if I didn't start and kept doing what I was doing? Not as good a result. Using Bib's lot theory it helped to hit the right place at the right time. But I felt I needed more after a while, and it wasn't more weight I needed, but different angles. I tried using my body weight against a door handle and wow what a difference that made as well, so I made some adjustments again and added a little of that into my routine. Also to get almost instant feedback can be very motivating. To see my flaccid stretch length jump a quarter inch in a day is exciting, especially after I have tried something new.
There is a great book called Body for Life by Bill Phillips. He has a workout and diet routine that results in the most incredible body transformations you have ever seen in only 12 weeks. Look at the link www.bodyforlife.com/success/beforeAfterAfters.asp . Many of these people went to the gym for years, but never got the results. This program put them all on a system that worked and they got the desired results.
My point is you could spend a lifetime doing the wrong thing and get moderate results, but if you continually measure and only accept routines that get results, you will hit your goals much quicker.
 
M37,

>I was wondering how would you compare your size to say mandingo's or DLDs?same size?<

I have no idea. I Penis Enlargemented only for myself and my wife. No competition involved. Not my thing.

>is your size bone pressed? or non bone pressed?<

Bone pressed.

>have you ever posted pictures?<

No.

>On a another note, i've realized the reason i was having trouble with sets was i was hanging too low! The hanger would ride over the head a bit!! i've since realized it's best to have it so it meets the back of the glans when pulled (not hanging onto it, but hanging just behind it, kissing it if you will)... i've had some really good hanging sessions since! no pain, and only slight discomfort, the ligs bug me before anything else!<

You should be compressing the hanger enough to grasp the internal structures, and the hanger and weight should actually be compressing forward, and riding on the upper part of the shaft, on the 'shoulders' of the head. Not even just behind the glans.

>When it comes to hanging at different angles how do you approach this??<

You must evaluate your routine on a fairly routine basis, at least once per month, or more often. Are you consistantly reaching fatigue in the target tissues? Are you able to apply effective stress to the target tissues? Are you following the various tests to determine the most effective angles, etc.

>What angles to use? how are they performed?<

You will need to search and read other threads for this information. It is volumous and complicated.

>how often to rotate angles?<

That is an individual decision. You will have to look at your situation, and determine this. However, I always liked to stick with an angle for at least a couple of weeks before making a decision to change. It sometimes would take that long to begin to reach fatigue, and show any tissue deformation.

>i had originally been hanging SD, but now have been hanging BTC as i feel it more in the ligs and fascial tissue now.<

That sounds good.

>'ve been hanging for a full month now, and am now using 12.5 lbs for at least 15 hrs a week. At what point should i consider other angles other then the standard BTC and SD?<

When your exit point or LOT drop far enough that you feel you have exhausted gains from lig stretch. Or, if you become too fatigued, risking injury to the lig bundles. There are probably other reasons to change that I cannot think of at the moment.

>after i've reach a max weight which draws fatigue in 1-2 sets and have been at it for a month or so? or what?<

No. Do not go by some arbitrary schedule based on time. Go by feel, and what you see. Do the research, evaluate the current status of your unit, and make an informed decision on how to proceed.

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alright thanks bib... sorry for so many questions...

last question tho...

if i attach the hanger (grasping the internal structures) to when TAUGHT it sits just on the "shoulders" of the glans that should be alright?
 
M37,

>if i attach the hanger (grasping the internal structures) to when TAUGHT it sits just on the "shoulders" of the glans that should be alright?<

I do not know what you mean. You want the hanger to grasp the internal structures so that the tunica, smooth muscle, etc, is force forward, forming the shoulders, and the hanger never actually reaches the head.

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oooh alright so basically it should not even TOUCH the glans it should hang down just beHIND the glans.. alright alright i got you!

thanks so much! :)

smooth sailing from here on out!

Thanks Again bib, you're an INCREDIBLE help! rofl
 
Hey Bib!!! how are you?

Few Questions and inquiries

Do you have a type of chair you'd reccomend???

What is the MOST weight you've heard of someone having to use before they began to accumulate gains (was it that 30 lbs?) ? and what would you figure the avg. gain rate per month is? i will take whatever i can get, long as i am gaining :) half a CM a month would be nice though (more the better of course!)

A Few additional notes, My penis feels alot tougher lately... hard to explain what i mean but just tougher the head esp. i'd assume this is all part of the adaption process.

I am still averaging a minimum of 15 hrs a week... i'm using 13.75 lbs right now, and i tend to have trouble with the 4-5th set... so i feel i will be hitting fatigue within the 1-2 set range with about 15-20 lbs normal? abnormal?

I am still rotating between BTC and SD... i have found a nice angle between the 2 which seems to hit the ligs quite well and i think i'll stick which it for a while.

Thanks Again!

M
 
When i say tougher head i mean, it's slightly lost sensitivity. is there a way i could releive some upper shaft pressure? i was thinking adding a strip of 2 of cloth along the top of the shaft extra to prevent dorsal nerve irritation.

I use the 2nd home made bib hanger BTW. the 2 peice one.
 
Upon review of my technique vs. proper technique i've come up with the following possibilites for my problem...

1. I've been tightening the hanger much too tight... it should be as loose, as can support the weight with internal structures taking the brunt, as possible correct? i was going far past this. not good, i'm fixing it.

2. I've been wrapping a bit too tight... my wrap was sligghtly pinching at all times while hanging. not good, i'm fixing this.

With the over all problem being excessive tightness and constriction it does not surprise me i've run into this problem. Come to think of it i've always had my head fill with blood and go blueish.. hopefully after having recognized the issue i will regain full sensitivity of my upper head.

Any further tips and comments would be greatly appreciated... thanks bib. :)
 
M37,

>Do you have a type of chair you'd reccomend???<

If you are going to buy one, I would say the cheapo office chairs, that recline, are height adjustable, and have a higher back would be perfect. You do not have to get a leather model. Just cloth covered would be fine.

>What is the MOST weight you've heard of someone having to use before they began to accumulate gains (was it that 30 lbs?) ?<

Yes.

>and what would you figure the avg. gain rate per month is?<

I have no idea. Probably a mm or less on average.

>i will take whatever i can get, long as i am gaining half a CM a month would be nice though (more the better of course!)<

That might happen to begin, with newbie gains. But overall, gains will average much slower than that for most guys.

>A Few additional notes, My penis feels alot tougher lately... hard to explain what i mean but just tougher the head esp. i'd assume this is all part of the adaption process.<

Hmmm. No, that does not sound too good. I see in the next two posts, you wrote about problems with your technique. That will probably address some of these physical problems.

>I am still averaging a minimum of 15 hrs a week... i'm using 13.75 lbs right now, and i tend to have trouble with the 4-5th set... so i feel i will be hitting fatigue within the 1-2 set range with about 15-20 lbs normal? abnormal?<

That sounds totally within the expected range.

>When i say tougher head i mean, it's slightly lost sensitivity. is there a way i could releive some upper shaft pressure? i was thinking adding a strip of 2 of cloth along the top of the shaft extra to prevent dorsal nerve irritation.<

Yes, that might help. But the biggest problem with the homemade hangers is a lack of blood channels to provide at least a bit of circulation. Also, the overtightening thing addressed below can be bad.

>I use the 2nd home made bib hanger BTW. the 2 peice one.<

Yes, this is something that takes time and practice, but you need to pay attention to it. You need to trim the piece that goes around the top back of the head to where it fits YOU. Further, you need to make sure the U or V cut in the plastic totally avoids the area just behind the top of the head.

>1. I've been tightening the hanger much too tight... it should be as loose, as can support the weight with internal structures taking the brunt, as possible correct?<

That is correct. With the circular type hangers, it is harder to grasp the internal stuctures, bunching the shaft "meat", and avoiding the head taking the weight. Just tighten enough to do this, and no more. It helps to manually check the tightness, see if the hanger slips, before applying the weight.

>i was going far past this. not good, i'm fixing it.<

That sounds good.

>2. I've been wrapping a bit too tight... my wrap was sligghtly pinching at all times while hanging. not good, i'm fixing this.<

Another common problem.

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