Genetics and our potential

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REDZULU2003

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I feel allot of our potential with regard to natural pe gains is genetic .. just like with gaining muscle.

We all have the potential to gain very much but its obvious not many would ever make it to 10 inches erect length even with the best will in the world.

I have good genetics for girth and average genetics for length. I gain girth so easy its hysterical .. which is good.

Think about it.
 
We are all made of the same stuff, so why can't we all be 10 inches.

If we all started stretching are ears, what do you think the outcome would be for that.
I think collagen is more of what some people may lack, or have more of, but I have no clue it just popped in my head.

I thought Genetics was past life experiences past down, past skills past down.

Or you know what forget that, it's probably way more than just Genetics, but at the end of it all we are all still human we are all made of the same stuff.
 
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Thats true BUT its more complicated and complex.

Look at the world of bodybuilding ... not everyone can be like Arnie.
Its allot about genetics potential. Not everyone can get a 19 inch arm .. thats FACT and we are all human! its GENTICS .. not everyone has those awesome calves no matter how much you work them .. Chris Dickerson has the best calves I have ever seen and he hardly worked them .. his brother who isnt a BB and doesnt work out has calves like him ... genetic.

My whole point of this thread is maybe our potential for size with regards to our penis is in our genes .. makes perfect sense to me. Some gain girth better, length, width etc some are showers other growers ... we are all human yet why do we have such variety? Ok you can use other factors like age, condition and drug usage but the results speak for themselves and I see allot of this in the pix I see here.

I have stretched my penis to death at times to get erect length and its my weak point even though I have just over 1 inch gain in erect length compared to nearly 2 inches in my erect girth gains.

Why do some have better showing veins and more texture etc etc

Not everyone can get a 10 inch long erect penis naturally ... no matter if you did pe for 20 years ... your gains have a limit somewhere otherwise we could potentially have a 15 inch penis and girth like a fuckin barrell. Somewhere inside of us is a limit ... its HIGH dont get me wrong but we have it in our genetics I THINK ... no scientific fact but this field isnt exactly well documented is it.

We can all gain really well with pe and certainly all of us IMHO can reach 8 inchs erect length at least and in the 6 inch girth range ... its the OTHERSIDE .. the monster portion of the scale like dld who are the genetic freaks I feel.
 
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I just don't think there is a limit, I think there is just limiting factors such as the septum or ligs etc

I think people like DLD are people that truly mastered it, and made everyday count, I just don't feel the penis is the same as a muscle, if everybody can reach 8 why could they not go beyond that. I feel anything is possible if you truly want and desire it.
 
Not being sarcastic here ... do you think I can reach 8 inches erect girth? maybe 9 inches erect girth oneday? honestly whats your response. Not the fact I couldnt get it inside most woman except the local fuckin bike and those on the game for years .. plus the farm animals ... nah, do you think I can get to the 8 or 9 inch GIRTH baby!!! Is it POSSIBLE for me and if so explain why and how.

No trick question or anything sinister ... your a bright lad .. one year younger than me actually hahaha you look at things outside the box .... hit me with your broom stick.
 
I will agree with genetics to a certain extent. But IMO you are only limited by what your mind can produce. Your body will only go as far as your mind will take it. I have reached my physical limit numerous times on the athletic field and gone beyond it with willpower. Penis Enlargement is the same as anything else just takes a bit longer than other things in life.
 
REDZULU2003;303549 said:
Not being sarcastic here ... do you think I can reach 8 inches erect girth? maybe 9 inches erect girth oneday? honestly whats your response. Not the fact I couldnt get it inside most woman except the local fuckin bike and those on the game for years .. plus the farm animals ... nah, do you think I can get to the 8 or 9 inch GIRTH baby!!! Is it POSSIBLE for me and if so explain why and how.

No trick question or anything sinister ... your a bright lad .. one year younger than me actually hahaha you look at things outside the box .... hit me with your broom stick.
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Fuck yeah you can reach 8 or 9 inch.
 
yes genetics has to do with a lot of what our potentials, but it is what we do if we choose to reach our fullest potential regardless of what we have or not. Hey it was genetics that caused some of us unfortunate ones with small penis
s and find and outlet in finding the teachings of Penis Enlargement.
 
The woman would pass out. Hey Pandora, how u find the sluts of the UK? u from the North like me. I loved Essex mate, what pussy!!!! London is always a good shout and the southern coast is getting good with all that Eastern shit.
 
This is all speculation, and you've provided no proof to back up your statements. From my understanding the average person has enough collagen for their tunica to go beyond 10 inches, and the soft tissues would follow without a problem.

The fact that people aren't getting there is because Penis Enlargement is still in it's beginning stages, and we only have brute strength to rely upon.

My thoughts are that most people could get 19 inch biceps given a huge intake of food, proper diet, smart training, and the right hormone levels (which would be gotten through steroids).
 
REDZULU2003;303620 said:
The woman would pass out. Hey Pandora, how u find the sluts of the UK? u from the North like me. I loved Essex mate, what pussy!!!! London is always a good shout and the southern coast is getting good with all that Eastern shit.
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West Midlands, Yeah there is loads of hot women around here.
 
Genetics will play a significant role in development potential but hard work and dedication can overcome many things.

The body has an incredible way to adapt to physical stress (look at the guys on serious roid cycles and how their bodies adapt). They have developed way beyond genetic potential.

I don't think and 8 or 9" girth would be impossible - it may take 30 or 40 years but it could be done with the right training, diet and exercise (and maybe injections). Once the easy gains are done then the hard work begins (how many people would keep at it for a gain of only 1/16" per year - pretty discouraging for most people except the highly focused and very dedicated).

The dedication to achieve that would wane long before the physical limitations for most people.
 
In the things that I have read about injections, they are successful but I often wonder at how much more successful they are then the same regular routine of Penis Enlargement.

If you are dedicated enough to stab a needle into your unit then you are definitely dedicated enough to do the Penis Enlargement regularly and with appropriate intensity.

If you did the Penis Enlargement regularly with the same intensity and without the injections how much of an additional gain would the injections provide? 5%, 10%, 100%?

Injecting a needle into my unit is just not something I would be interested in doing. You still need to do Penis Enlargement anyway and I believe that the natural Penis Enlargement route would be safer and not have any of the potential undiscovered long term negative / health effects in the future.
 
Diverdown;303662 said:
In the things that I have read about injections, they are successful but I often wonder at how much more successful they are then the same regular routine of Penis Enlargement.

If you are dedicated enough to stab a needle into your unit then you are definitely dedicated enough to do the Penis Enlargement regularly and with appropriate intensity.

If you did the Penis Enlargement regularly with the same intensity and without the injections how much of an additional gain would the injections provide? 5%, 10%, 100%?

Injecting a needle into my unit is just not something I would be interested in doing. You still need to do Penis Enlargement anyway and I believe that the natural Penis Enlargement route would be safer and not have any of the potential undiscovered long term negative / health effects in the future.
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IGF1-LR3 is able to grow/repair penile tissue with no manual work, but how much it will grow with no manual work is unknown. Everyone who is running IGF1-LR3 with their Penis Enlargement protocol is doing at least some exercise. We're hoping that it greatly accelerates gains. We'll have to wait a few months as pretty much everyone was starting IGF1-LR3 around the same time (this past month).

I have a feeling a mass exodus towards chemical Penis Enlargement will occur if people (including myself) start reporting big gains after 6 months or so of doing injections.
 
Diverdown;303658 said:
Once the easy gains are done then the hard work begins (how many people would keep at it for a gain of only 1/16" per year - pretty discouraging for most people except the highly focused and very dedicated).

The dedication to achieve that would wane long before the physical limitations for most people.
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Then call me dedicated (or dumb).[or both:s]
 
Ok let me say something. Not everyone can get 19 inch arms .. not biceps but ARMS as the tricep is also measured, many just think of the bicep. Now if one takes the juice than sure your chances are made better but I'm not talking about using drugs and peptides here to go past our genetics as I already know this would be possible to some extent .. any of you seen Tom Platz thighs? sick as fuck ... the biggest ever .. seen Sergio Oliva's arms? around 20 inchs .. COLD!!! Both admitted to using the juice so this helped get them to where they needed to be but still not everyone on the juice can get 19 inch arms and monster thighs.

Diet, exercise, rest and GENETICS do play a role ... no matter how many jabs you take and how many pills you swollow your genes will play that final drum role in how much you can keep and how much you will gain. BB's have known this for years and years and you only have to read a few books by well known trainers and they will tell you this .. genetics plays a key role even with the juice.

Look at it from another angle ... our bone structure plays a HUGE role in our muscle mass shape, symmetry and proportions. Small collarbones will equal not much potential to have wide shoulders although you can create an illusion ... so you cant get past your skeleton structure with any drug!!

Also the metabolism plays a significant role ... I dont need to explain this.

The above is what is known with regards to the iron game ... I also think that in some respects it plays a role with our penis ... not with metabolism and skeleton structure but the rest days and genetics I do.

Try looking at the penis as a seperate thing from our bodies ... ok, now try and see the head and shaft as like another body. Take note of the texture, colour, veins on display, the shape not only of the shaft but the glans. Now as yourself .. Why are they like this and the other persons look like that? i.e. some guys have a natural large glans and some guys have venis showing already. Is this passed down in our genes from our ancestors do you think? like our looks and body structure.

Like I have said and I stand by it .. we are limited in the end by our genes our our GENETIC POTENTIAL. This is high, remember this ... in BB terms many of us could get great bodies with good muscles without the juice and still have alittle more to go before we reached our genetic potential but many will never see those 19 inch arms ... when I say 19 inch arms I mean just that .. mostly muscle and not a layer of fat covering them like I see with some wannabe's!

The penis must have its role somewhere, otherwise we could get 15 inch dicks ... wheres dld at now? does he still pe? I noticed towards the later years of him getting the 12 inch cock that his gains were very slow leading up to it compared to the years before ... I think the reasons are because he has nearly reached his genetic potential for length gains. Do you see my point? surely genes play a role in this aswell.

I know that their is lots of penis hidden inside our bodies waiting to be pulled out ... now once thats out and the ligaments have had all the stretch they can take and growth from this, than what? the girthwork could help get somemore gains from the external tunicae but their will ultimately be a limit somewhere sometime ... you cant keep going on and on gaining ... even if you start using chemicals such as whats being tested by some here and at other forums ... the guys testing it still have much to gain maybe naturally so gains from this chemical pe could have been gotten naturally but were speeded up. Infact I would love DLD to use chemical pe as hes been in the game for years and has gains so much he would be a great candidate to see how it could extend gains in vet pe'ers. The only other option to get past the genetics is SURGERY ... or if the chemicals injected in the penis did something to it like with what we see with some drugs BBs use that induce Hyperplasia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperplasia than yea you could start to go past your genetic potential, but I still wouldnt see it being endless gains. IGF induces Hyperplasia, so it will be VERY interesting to see how this works with the penis ... as it SHOULD do something very positive.

At the end of the day I'm talking about genetic potential .. NATURALLY.

This is just my take
 
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Genetic potential obviously plays a key role in many respects, but I believe very few people have ever lived up to their true genetic potential.

The body adapts to physical stress over time and continues to adapt and develop even after the early years.

If someone did Penis Enlargement into their 60's and 70'd (and there are definitely more then a few examples) would they not continue to develop as the tissues continues to stretch and max out?

Cells are not static and will continue to divide and grow. There are many studies of elderly people weighlifting and increasing muscle mass and bone density significantly.

The body is incredibly resilient and adaptive but I am sure that there must be some limit to the max length / girth that can be obtained and more important be usable.

I believe that maximum size can only be determined by the individual and achieved only by their dedication and commitment to a regular, serious Penis Enlargement regime.

In most cases the flesh will be willing but the mind (or will) will be weak.
 
Anotherthing with gaining muscle on our bodies is the size of the muscle bellies and the length of the tendons from these and where they attach to the joint can determine how much mass one can put on those parts. Usually although not a science but noted from world class trainers who have witnessed this trend, guys with the best potential for bicep browth have a smaller gap between their flexed bicep muscle [the end closest the elbow joint] and the crease where the elbow joint is. Sergio Oiliva is a prime example. LARGE Muscle bellies equal great potential for muscle mass while small muscle bellies wont yield as much ... this is genetic, so does the penis hold something similer? tendons and ligaments are all being pulled and stretched.
 
Sounds good.

I have a lot of collagen in my penis, it's very stretchy, goes from like .5-1 inch flaccid to 6ish erect.

Is that going to be better for girth or length gains?
 
Red: One could argue that the penis extends off of the body therefore it can be manipulated to a much larger degree. you cant seperate your bicep from your arm without severely injuring yourself. For groups of muscles attached to the body this seems logical. The penis can go outwards though and can be stressed to move out more so than say a normal muscle group that is in a fixed position on the body.
 
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Red: One could argue that the penis extends off of the body therefore it can be manipulated to a much larger degree. you cant seperate your bicep from your arm without severely injuring yourself. For groups of muscles attached to the body this seems logical. The penis can go outwards though and can be stressed to move out more so than say a normal muscle group that is in a fixed position on the body.
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Thats a good point but could their still be limits emposed by genetics [if this is the case with the penis size thing] once we start pushing growth externally ... by this I mean where does it end? A limit must exist to some extent.
 
A limit is possibly there, certainly if not genetically then hopefully mentally. I definately would not want my penis dragging the ground when i walked. I keep getting distracted by the bouncing ass and titties on your messages to think straight.
 
Hey red? not to get off topic , but are you done making your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words]? and how do i order one? take care man :)
 
remiii, no I havent even started anything with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words] if it ever does get into planning stages. I did have a model lined up to pose for me but I have sacked it all until another day ... or year. At the moment I have far too many other commitments to consider.
 
I think the mind plays a lot more important role than genetics. More people will limit themselves mentally a lot more than their genetics ever will.
 
If there aren't genetics, there's the purely physiological. Like seeking's dick dragging on the ground. Like a dick wider than your hips. Like a dick with so much volume you pass out from blood loss at the sight of some hot ass. Like a dick so big you can't get your hands around it enough to continue jelqing or clamping.

Red I don't know what to do with your sig, vomit or rub one out.
 
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If there aren't genetics, there's the purely physiological. Like seeking's dick dragging on the ground. Like a dick wider than your hips. Like a dick with so much volume you pass out from blood loss at the sight of some hot ass. Like a dick so big you can't get your hands around it enough to continue jelqing or clamping.

Red I don't know what to do with your sig, vomit or rub one out.
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Yeah seriously, it's fucked up but with some hot shit on there too.
 
Glad you like the sig ... I'm going to remove the dog ad the lass with the large rack.
I like that US gouvernment dude with the roll up ... [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words].
 
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