Chemical PE

[goldmember]

Hi Gold,
Thanks for your response. I really don't have a protocol as you would call it. I would put on a ring of power and then use 1.25g's or 2.5 in the morning and then do some basic strecthes. I would watch adult entertainment for stimulation but it would take some time for me to get an erection. I guess I was under the impression that the gel was a magic potion but I will continue to use it.

I would devise a real Penis Enlargement routine in addition to the DHT gel. An [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] along with manual stretches sounds solid.

 

[goldmember]

The PGE-1 has physical effects on the tunica that might make your hanging sessions productive for once. I suggest you try hanging again, this time right before your chemical erection.

I normally injected the prostaglandin in the evening, put a rubber cockring on and stayed erect for at least 3 hours (sometimes up to 5).First 1.5 hours I didn´t do anything and then I did about an hour of girth workout (horse squeezes, bends, erect stretching).
After about 3 months I started stretching in the morning, when my penis was still sore from the workout in the evening.
It felt more stretchable and unbelievable intense.At one point I thought there was 1/8 inch in length gain, but I never measured 8 1/8 again.
Goldmember, I used to hang back in the days.From 6-9 sets (sometimes more) to hardcore hanging (don´t remember the weight, I think about 30 pounds, gotta check the Dashdeming´s hardcore hanging threat) and only gained little.
The only time I gained about .5 inch in length within 3 weeks was when I was stretching like crazy for about 1.5 hours a day.
I think of wearing my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] for 6-8 hours a day and do some blasters and sock stretches every hour.
I can create about 5-6 lbs of tension with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], but don´t know how to avoid the goddamn water blisters.

 

[X-Raided]

Anyone got a link to order the gel??

How often do you put it on??

Its a topical gel right??

And can anyone tell me how it works,how much it is?

 

[PenilePersist]

Anyone got a link to order the gel??

How often do you put it on??

Its a topical gel right??

And can anyone tell me how it works,how much it is?

I know this seems like a good thing to jump in to, but messing with hormones is something that should be taken very seriously. Your mood can alter extremely and other concerns can include but not be limited to hair loss, acne and even cancer. BUT, you can find some more info on DHT and where to order it and other stuff in this thread: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penile-products-reviews-links/26717-dht-gel-new-post.html .

 

[goldmember]

I know this seems like a good thing to jump in to, but messing with hormones is something that should be taken very seriously. Your mood can alter extremely and other concerns can include but not be limited to hair loss, acne and even cancer. BUT, you can find some more info on DHT and where to order it and other stuff in this thread: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penile-products-reviews-links/26717-dht-gel-new-post.html .

Keep in mind, since the application is localized, it requires a small dosage...we're talking about 250mg per week.

 

[dogsdoodahs]

You are using too much if it doesn't completely absorb. Within a minute or two, you should be able to "taste" the DMSO in your body. Try using less.

Also, a bacteria is many magnitudes too large to permeate the skin. If a protein won't permeate the skin, then a bacteria has no chance. DHT is probably even pushing the transdermal limits of DMSO.

Mr member, this is the DMSO I am applying,

DMSO, Pure DMSO, Nature's Gift, 4 [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]fl[/words] oz

I do a girth workout 3 times a week) then apply the DMSO and then 1.25G of Andractim cream.

I applied less DMSO today using a cotton bud but I wonder if any really gets through to the Tunica and suspect the skin soaks it all up.

The DHT cream absorbs well and quickly (burns a bit) but again I suspect the skin absorbs it all so I might be wasting my time.

 

[EVO]

i would have though applying the DMSO after DHT would be more productive.

the more i read into chemical Penis Enlargement the more i want to try it. if only i had cash. lol. do you think PGE-1 (caverject) would work on its own?

 

[sikdogg]

Mr. Sikdogg,

I strongly advise against using DMFA, or recommending it to anyone for use as a transdermal. It is carcinogenic and toxic.

Here's a summary of the bullitin about DMFA being a carcinogen and toxic...

Let me summarize the OSHA INFORMATION BULLETIN. There are actually 2 studies presented by this bulletin. The first addresses workers at an aircraft repair facility where they were exposed to inhalation of pure DMFA. The second deals with leather workers that were also exposed to inhalation of pure DMFA.

Factors that increase the possibility of testicular cancer:
family history of abnormalities
history of hernia
mumps
maternal hyperemesis gravidarum
prenatal ionizing radiation exposure
rural residence
exposure to pesticides or unrefined petroleum products
testicular trauma
wearing jockey-type undershorts
bicycle or horseback riding

According to the bulletin, riding a bike regularly is just as bad as inhaling pure DMFA for 3-15 years. In case you don't know...your lungs are much more efficient in getting things into your body than applying them to your skin. After all, your skin is designed specifically to keep things out. At a minimum we can conclude that application of DMFA to the skin should not be in excess of 3 years continuously. If one felt the need to dose a lotion for that long it would be in their best interest to look into other life saving measures such as therapy for their low self esteem.

STUDY #1 - AIRCRAFT REPAIRMEN
3 men were diagnosed with testicular cancer.
They set the time required for exposure at 3 years continuously before onset of symptoms. 3 YEARS!!!

STUDY #2 - LEATHER TANNER WORKERS
3 men were diagnosed with testicular cancer
In the first case, the man inhaled pure DMFA for 13 years before onset of symptoms.
In the second case, the man inhaled pure DMFA for 14 years before onset of symptoms.
In the third case, the man inhaled pure DMFA for 8 years before onset of symptoms.

As a direct comparison for applying a diluted solution containing DMFA this bulletin is poor. It does shed some valuable insight into the safety of the compound however. First, it should be common knowledge that inhalation standards are MUCH, MUCH lower due to the efficiency of your lungs at getting gasses into your body (and out). So, after 3-14 years of continuous inhalation there will be some complications.

DO NOT INHALE PURE DMFA FOR 3-14 YEARS CONTINUOUSLY.

DO NOT APPLY PURE DMFA FOR 3-14 YEARS CONTINUOUSLY.

 

[sikdogg]

... I applied less DMSO today using a cotton bud but I wonder if any really gets through to the Tunica and suspect the skin soaks it all up.

The DHT cream absorbs well and quickly (burns a bit) but again I suspect the skin absorbs it all so I might be wasting my time.

DMSO has been used for year to treat sore joints so i do believe that it can penetrate to at least the tunica... it doesn't have to go through the tunica... it just has to get there.

It's primary purpose is as a penetration enhancer so that more DHT gets through the skin with each application of DHT gel.

 

[sikdogg]

i would have though applying the DMSO after DHT would be more productive...

It would actually be more productive to apply the DMSO before... what this does is prep the skin for better absorbtion of DHT. If you apply it after, you risk wiping off the DHT gel.

 

[X-Raided]

I wanna try this but i dont know where to get it and ..how safe is it?its topical?

 

[goldmember]

It would actually be more productive to apply the DMSO before... what this does is prep the skin for better absorbtion of DHT. If you apply it after, you risk wiping off the DHT gel.

I agree, but just make sure you apply the andractim immediately after the DMSO. Do not let the DMSO completely absorb before applying the DHT.

Where did you find the info on DMFA? I take MSDS sheets pretty literally, but the info you showed seems to belittle the nasty effects of DMFA.

 

[large1]

The PGE-1 has physical effects on the tunica that might make your hanging sessions productive for once. I suggest you try hanging again, this time right before your chemical erection.

I already thought about hardcore hanging along with prostaglandin injections. Do you think a hardcore stretching routine could do the trick either?
Oddly, I can´t find my hanger anymore.And I don´t know if I´ll find the time to hang because I live in a relationship.
Even though she´s into size she doesn´t support me, cause she thinks enough is enough.
On one hand the comment gives me confidence, on the other hand it sucks because she really gets angry when she catches me jelqing.
No shit!!

 

[gimmegirth]

Im not seeing major effects from the DHT gel. This would suggest that maybe it is not making it far enough into the penis, and i am therefore very interested in using DMSO.
I've I havn't seen much change when I measure on Wednesday, i'll save the rest of my Andractim for my next cycle, when i will use it with DMSO. I've only done a little reading into DMSO at the moment so I'm clueless as to the amounts needed.

 

[smileyguy]

I'm getting some of the PGE pellets and that powder potaba from citychem in about 2 weeks.

Have we concluded anything about the potaba's safety?

I've also wondered if the pellets would work the same? My doctor wouldn't give the injects unless i tried the pellets first...

I'll let you know when i start with the potaba and if you don't hear from me after you know it;s not safe rofl .

Cheers be good if someone can answer these questions for me,

Smiley

 

[goldmember]

I already thought about hardcore hanging along with prostaglandin injections. Do you think a hardcore stretching routine could do the trick either?
Oddly, I can´t find my hanger anymore.And I don´t know if I´ll find the time to hang because I live in a relationship.
Even though she´s into size she doesn´t support me, cause she thinks enough is enough.
On one hand the comment gives me confidence, on the other hand it sucks because she really gets angry when she catches me jelqing.
No shit!!

How do you do the chemical Penis Enlargement without her noticing?

 

[goldmember]

Im not seeing major effects from the DHT gel. This would suggest that maybe it is not making it far enough into the penis, and i am therefore very interested in using DMSO.
I've I havn't seen much change when I measure on Wednesday, i'll save the rest of my Andractim for my next cycle, when i will use it with DMSO. I've only done a little reading into DMSO at the moment so I'm clueless as to the amounts needed.

Not much DMSO is needed. Maybe a teaspoon.

 

[goldmember]

I'm getting some of the PGE pellets and that powder potaba from citychem in about 2 weeks.

Have we concluded anything about the potaba's safety?

I've also wondered if the pellets would work the same? My doctor wouldn't give the injects unless i tried the pellets first...

I'll let you know when i start with the potaba and if you don't hear from me after you know it;s not safe rofl .

Cheers be good if someone can answer these questions for me,

Smiley

Potaba is pretty safe. Make sure you get plenty of vitamin D while on it though.

 

[smileyguy]

Also getting a vachanger as the stretcher i used before worked damn well before i did damage to my glans hopefully the potaba will take care of the scar and the vacuum on the head will help it heal, plus the pellets should inlfate the head also, so it's all pretty much aimed there.

How much should i hang on this stuff and when do you reckon, you say it help with tension?

How does pge at 8pm sex till 9.30pm hang till 12.00-1.00am wake up at 8.00 hang till 1pm rest... repeat?

Last time i used and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]all day stretcher[/words] i gained about 1-8th to 1/4 in about 5 days, i kinda kept it on too tight and did damage though. Haven't gained and my heads lost alot of size since then<

This time i actually know what i'm doing...

If this plan doesnt work i'm going to inject myself with mad doses of growth hormone testosterone dht and use lot so dht cream...

What you think to my plan?

 

[smileyguy]

Think the pellets will work the way i need? Give my glans a good erection aswell as the rest of my penis? It does work the same right?

 

[sikdogg]

... Where did you find the info on DMFA? I take MSDS sheets pretty literally, but the info you showed seems to belittle the nasty effects of DMFA.

From a biochemist who was doing alot of research on penetration enhancers for transdermals. He was asked about an OSHA bullitin that claimed DMFA caused testicular cancer (see below). He looked up the studies used for the bullitin.

19880217 Dimethylformamide and Testicular Cancer.

 

[sikdogg]

Double post...

 

[sikdogg]

I'm getting some of the PGE pellets and that powder potaba from citychem in about 2 weeks.

Have we concluded anything about the potaba's safety?

I've also wondered if the pellets would work the same? My doctor wouldn't give the injects unless i tried the pellets first...

I'll let you know when i start with the potaba and if you don't hear from me after you know it;s not safe rofl .

Cheers be good if someone can answer these questions for me,

Smiley

What do you mean by PGE pellets?? PGE1 is typically sold asa lyophilized powder that you have to re-constitute prior to use. Can you give more info in the pellets??

 

[goldmember]

From a biochemist who was doing alot of research on penetration enhancers for transdermals. He was asked about an OSHA bullitin that claimed DMFA caused testicular cancer (see below). He looked up the studies used for the bullitin.

19880217 Dimethylformamide and Testicular Cancer.

I've got mad respect for the biochemists out there, but I wish the MSDS sheets said the same thing. It's hard to put your liver, kidneys, testicles, or life at risk for something so trivial...

 

[goldmember]

Also getting a vachanger as the stretcher i used before worked damn well before i did damage to my glans hopefully the potaba will take care of the scar and the vacuum on the head will help it heal, plus the pellets should inlfate the head also, so it's all pretty much aimed there.

How much should i hang on this stuff and when do you reckon, you say it help with tension?

How does pge at 8pm sex till 9.30pm hang till 12.00-1.00am wake up at 8.00 hang till 1pm rest... repeat?

Last time i used and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]all day stretcher[/words] i gained about 1-8th to 1/4 in about 5 days, i kinda kept it on too tight and did damage though. Haven't gained and my heads lost alot of size since then<

This time i actually know what i'm doing...

If this plan doesnt work i'm going to inject myself with mad doses of growth hormone testosterone dht and use lot so dht cream...

What you think to my plan?

I think you are going into this with the wrong mindset. Think safety first, my friend. Try the chemical erection all by itself for 2 hours+ without any sex, hanging, or exercises. After a couple times, add little by little until you find the right plan. I wouldn't go crazy injecting every anabolic substance known to man if your original routine doesn't pan out as hoped.

Use the Roman thought process before making big changes, that is: if you think of an idea while you're sober, drink on it before deciding to go through with it; if you think of an idea while drunk, wait to make your decision until you're sober.

 

[gimmegirth]

Think the pellets will work the way i need? Give my glans a good erection aswell as the rest of my penis? It does work the same right?

Engorgement problems in the head are quite common, it's to do with the shunting mechanisms linked to the corpus spongiosum. I doubt these mechanisms will be effected by the pellets.

Interestingly, one member had a vein embolization that seemed to cure this problem.

Are you using an intraurethral application of these pellets?
"'Medicated Urethral System for Erection' (MUSEÔ) was introduced in 1994.6 With this method, a pellet of PGE1 with a dosage up to 1000 mug is inserted into the distal urethra".

 

[large1]

How do you do the chemical Penis Enlargement without her noticing?

Good question! Actually, I don´t know yet. The 2-3 hour erection shouldn´t be the problem...just sitting on the couch in front of the TV, fucking here and there, stuff like that.
I could be able to do half an hour of stretching in the morning, wear my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for 6 hours a day and do some blasters every time I go to the restroom.
Sounds like a solid plan.
Goldmember, should the stretching be done before injecting?
I had the feeling that stretching in the morning after injecting PGE1 in the evening was pretty intense. The penis also felt more stretchable.
But anyways, like I said, I didn´t gain any length.
Maybe the decon break and the use of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] brings length gains for me.

 

[The Draven]

So any success with this?

 

[goldmember]

Goldmember, should the stretching be done before injecting?

Maybe the decon break and the use of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] brings length gains for me.

I would think that stretching after the erection would be best, but if it's too painful, you'd be better off stretching before-hand, and maybe applying an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] afterward. I think the more stretching, the better. An [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] would be a wise investment of this protocol.

 

[large1]

I can´t wait to get back in the game. Right now all I do is some ball jelqing and afterwards I wear my ball weights for a couple of hours a day.
It´s reducing my turkey neck big time and definetly gives the illusion of a bigger dick.
Like I said, i´m going to stretch in the morning when my dick is still sore from the chemical erections.
It seemed to be more stretchable when I did so "back in the days".
I agree with you, gold. I think the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] could be very productive. I have a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and it gives a good stretch of about 5 pounds.

 

[blackster1975]

doesn't increases of dht affect your prostate though or is that only if the rise in dht is caused by anabolic steroids ect and not applied topically.